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[Used] Colorful GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Graphics Card (Ex Mining) $557.07 Delivered @ MetroCom eBay

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One of the best priced second-hand deals I’ve seen out there. Almost 50% off retail.

Don’t know anything about the seller (appears to have a WIP website). More than 10 available at time of posting, and it’s covered by eBay Plus returns. Comes with a 3 month warranty too, for what that’s worth.

Yes, ex-mining. We all talk about the eth-merge bringing down the price by flooding the second hand market. Well, that doesn’t happen unless people actually go for the ex-mining cards.

Seller Description:

EX mining card for half year. Tested working with no issues.
Minor oxidation on the fins of the radiator, some dust but no rust.
No original box, card and 12 pin to dual 8 pin adaptor only.

Original Coupon Deal

EDIT: According to @Grunkun below, he called the customer service line and confirmed that the manufacturer warranty lasts until January 2025.

EDIT 2: MetroCon has confirmed it will supply an original invoice from BPC-Tech with purchase, for warranty purposes.

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        • Does electricity consumption for gaming have a footprint larger than Argentina's? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56012952

          • @Techie4066: Potentially.
            Are you able to link the research on gamers electricity consumption? And can you provide current stats on mining please, I’m not 100% sure that this is still the case.

            More-so I was just referring to lots of things waste power and we can be up in arms over one particular aspect but not all the others. Any improvement is better than none.

            Things come up from time to time that become the worse out of all evils, sometimes they last, sometimes they’re just a blip on the radar for a few years than disappear again.

              • @Techie4066: Closest I’ve found for gaming was just considering gaming PC’s and not consoles and hitting 75TWH back in 2015, taking into account the rapid increase of gamers, the higher energy consumption and including console, yes it will surpass Argentines use of 121 TWH, but collating this data is very hard. Presumably that’s grown. Now that Eth is PoS and not PoW and with BTC tanking, becoming unprofitable for most areas of the world currently we can guess the turn-tables.

                If it helps, I am trying to lower my personal energy consumption and fossil fuel emissions where possible. In fact I even drive a hybrid now that only uses 13L/100kms of 98.

                • @Darude Sandstorm:

                  13L/100kms of 98

                  Good to hear but that's a pretty awful figure even for a petrol in pure urban driving. Do you mean 1.3L/100km?

                  • @Techie4066: No. 13.

                    • @Darude Sandstorm: 13 litres every 100kms? Are you joking me? lol that's 18mpg - woeful at best if efficiency is your aim! My family's turbo 4cyl SUV gets 7.8L/100km pure urban driving, and that's not with conservative driving either.

      • you are making it too complex for his agenda

    • +1

      "pointless global emissions " making money is not pointless.

      I don't see the hate for miners, literally trying to make money like I do when I go to work. Unless you cycle to work and plant trees for a job, I'm not sure how you or anyone is much better.

  • +1

    Almost want to get this considering it would be covered under ACL for much longer than the 3 months stipulated.

    I think I would fire around the $400~ range.

    • +4

      But does ACL apply to ebay listings?

      • Applies to any business operating in Australia.

        • This is not automatically enforced though, in the event that the product fails and the seller decides not to comply with the ACL, you are basically left with few options but to take them to tribunal or court which could be a very lengthy process (months or even more than a year). I suspect some resellers leverage this time expense for their malpractices.

          • @gottadeal: Great. I'll do a chargeback on my card.

  • +3

    Ex-mining, nope, not worth it. It is pure lottery with no warranty.

    • +7

      apart from the 3 month warranty…

      • +2

        And possibly the manufacturers warranty until 2025…

    • still have warranty my dude.

    • It has full warranty under the ACL.

  • +4

    The issue with ex-mining cards is not whether they've been run at high voltage for their time in use, but that they have been subjected to 24/7 usage for the entire period of their usage and it's naive to assume they've been used in optimally cooled conditions.

    Let's assume a 'normal' gamer runs the card 20 hours per week, the ex-mining card will have seven times more usage - all other things being equal, this is a 3-4 year old GPU when measured by wear-and-tear.

    • +10

      Even then, wear and tear is a highly debated topic - most of the research has proven fans wear out, most electrical components nowadays don’t unless they’re subject to overheating, poor manufacturing and short circuits/overloads. Look at server components and other things like cpus. Running 24/7 for years on high loads and the only things that fail are fans and drives.

      • unless they’re subject to overheating

        The 3070 Ti uses GDDR6X which runs much hotter than regular GDDR6.

        The stock thermal pads are rubbish so the memory chips on these would have been at ~105°C 24/7 while mining memory hard algorithms.

  • +6

    You would be crazy to buy a thrashed miner's card like this for only a $300 discount off a new one..

  • +1

    You can buy a new RTX 3070 Ti for $930

    This card is almost 2 years old. If I'm buying second hand, I want at least a 50% discount off the new price, which would be $465. Then you'd take off additional points for the heavy use.

    You'd have to be desperate or stupid to be paying this price

    • -1

      whats stupid is you thinking mining is some sort of enigma that kills cards

      • +1

        high temperature, big current, dusty environment, quality of PCIe extension cable, quality of Power supply and its connector,

        heat expansion rate between silicone, solder, copper layer and glass fabric is different, especially at high temperature.

        whats stupid is you thinking mining won't kill cards

      • What's stupid is not reading properly.

        Taking an ex mining card is fine, he's saying the price they are asking for does not reflect that.

    • +4

      I don't know why you got negged, must be a miner desperately trying to sell his card at high price

      • +2

        People flip flop. The vast majority off people can't conceive of things not being all bad or all good. When something is established as all bad, in this case everyone warning against buying cards that have been heavily used, people see the cracks in the argument, in this case graphics cards being mostly solid state and nothing to 'wear out' really, which is fine and true, in its way.

        But then they assume that because the commonly held belief isn't 100% true that it's 100% false, and they jump to the other extreme. They start saying shit like 'Mining cards are great! Miners take care of their gear and undervolt them. A mining card is even better than a card that hasn't been used to mine!'
        Lunacy.

        To me it's quite simple. I'll buy a card that's been used to mine, I do like a gamble after all.. but the discount has to be substantial to make it worth it.

  • +9

    Ignoring the potential for early death, I think the biggest issue is these miners basically jacked up GPU prices for "us" for 2 years, which in tern gave NVIDIA the green light to charge over 2k AUD for the "4070".

    So I think there is an argument, based on ethics, that we should not buy these cards at any price; otherwise we are just supporting this industry…

    If miners know they cant offload their used equipment and recoup some of the initial cost, then perhaps they wouldn't have bought so many in the first place…

    However I suspect this is all pretty moot given the mining boom is over, and people are gonna do whatever they want (aka free market)

    • That's on Nvidia though, they (profanity) up and bought more silicon wafer allocation out of greed. Now they want their AIBs and the end-customer to cover up for their risky gambit.

      They collected data for years with their mandatory Geforce Experience logins, they know exactly how many cards went towards miners and how many went towards gamers. They even got sued once for misrepresenting crypto-related revenue figures to their investors.

      What all this tells me is Nvidia likes to milk their customers so I have no idea why people have this battered housewife attitude towards them. They didn't have to increase prices, they simply are throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks first. If AMD refuses to play this price-hike game and only adjusts MSRP based on the official inflation rate, then we'll have an interesting market next gen. Albeit, the skeptic inside me says slim chance.

      • +1

        NVIDIA, like any company, likes to make profit; and has a fiduciary duty to do so for their shareholders.
        AMD will price their cards correctly. ie if they are 80% of the performance, they will be 70% of the cost.. I dont think AMD will "save us" much more than they need to.

        GPU-gate, if thats what we are calling it, was really a perfect storm of multiple things
        - the 20 series sucked, so a lot of people where still on 10 series and as such "deserved" an upgrade.
        - the 30 series was actually a decent performance uplift over previous generations, sort of the same point as above
        - obviously crypto
        - covid, people had "spare" money from all the government injections as well as the "stay at home / what else can we do" thing…
        - i think the initial pricing of 30 series was actually pretty good; and so this caused a sort of jealously thing to kick in, where people wanted to keep pace with others, and so paying 50/100/200/500 $$$ extra just sort of evolved.

        NVIDIA was right place / right time.

        and NOW they are profiteering from it; i'm looking at you "2k for 4070* and 4080"…

        I think evga leaving the scene says a LOT about NVIDIA (obviously), I am thankful we have AMD to reign NVIDIA in (a bit), BUT just look at Zen4 in terms of what AMD "will do" when they think they are market leaders…

        • +1

          Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I recently looked into the MSRPs adjusted for inflation for Nvidia. From my observations, they don't hike prices across the board, they test the waters on certain line-ups to see what they could get away with. This is what they seemingly did:

          • Turing 2000 series, was and still is the biggest % price hike they did on the high-end/prosumer market (90/Ti/Titan lineups). I still recall everyone recommending the 1080 Ti over a 2080 during that era.
          • The refresh of Turing (ie. 2000 Supers) was the period where they cut the MSRP because of that terrible launch. This was when the 2080S started being recommended by reviewers as it was much better value-proposition compared to Turing's launch products.
          • 30 series cemented that price, but overall the 3080 was still ~8% higher than the 1080 (USD MSRP launch prices, adjusted for inflation). However in AU we somehow lucked out and the 3080 ended up being cheaper than a 1080. This might be due to the lack of trade tariffs on electronics against CH.
          • 3090 and now the 4090 has actually cut MSRPs on the 90/Ti/Titan line, after you adjust values based on inflation.
          • This next gen 4000 series is Nvidia testing to see if they can hike up the more price-sensitive ~~70s and ~~80s line-ups. The areas where most enthusiasts are at. I fully anticipate they'll introduce some sort of refresh 6mo - a year from now. Also it's quite a bummer that the AUD:USD ratio has fallen off a cliff in 2022, so it seems like our luck has ran out this time around. Whatever both companies do this gen, it'll won't be a good value-proposition for us.
          • Note: Nvidia's ~~60 line-ups have been fairly consistent with inflation. Main problem has always been that there was high inflation over the past two years, so quite a lot of people got priced out.

          Controversial opinion: I think Zen4 isn't too bad CPU pricing wise, it's the absurdly high motherboard prices that is a deal-breaker. But it's seems like a tradeoff their board partners did. If you dig into the specs the B650 motherboards have similar features and VRM phases as an average X570. It genuinely seems like they are trying to save people from future headaches when its time for Zen5 or 6. But then again I'm not the type of person who jumps onto the newest hardware at launch so I'll reserve my judgement for now; need to see whether 13th-gen Intel+DDR4 outperforms Zen4+DDR5.

          Controversial opinion 2: If economic conditions were better, the 4090 might have been better received. If you account for inflation, the 4090 is definitely not as bad as the Titan RTX launch MSRP.

    • +1

      But if you buy new card, you are signalling nvidia that we are ready to buy 2 year old outdated cards at the same RRP when they were released OR worse 4070 for joke prices which is more bad.

      Mining is dead. Nvidia isnt and is here to stay. Whom would you support?

  • +2

    One downside to buying ex mining cards is that if miners can sell them for a good price, it will actually drive up the price of new cards (and used non-mining cards) as miners can keep buying them.

    If no-one bought ex-mining cards, miners wouldn't buy them in the first place (or at least wouldn't pay as much).

    • +5

      Miners aren’t buying cards anymore. Ever since the eth merge, mining has been unprofitable. (Not helped by the global energy crisis.)

      These cards aren’t being sold because they can’t mine anymore. They’re being sold because they can’t mine profitably.

      • Yep, but who knows what might happen in the future.

        If miners know they won't be able to sell their cards if everything collapses, it will be a much bigger commitment to buy into mining.

        Probably wishful thinking by me to think that gamers as a whole will be able to resist buying ex-mining GPUs enough to cause this effect but idk, just my personal take.

        Edit: of course miners will also be able to just not list their cards as mining cards but yeah

        • +2

          I mean, mining’s gone, there’s been a huge offboarding of cards and because RRPs are still so fkn high even with the oversaturation of ex-miner cards people are still paying RRP.

          I believe because demand is still high even outweighing miner cards that come up for sale and are gone the same day that they will only becoming cheaper if people stop buying new cards or if nVidia and AMD drop their prices - which currently; they have no reasons

          • @Darude Sandstorm: Fair enough, just my take :P

          • +1

            @Darude Sandstorm: Mining is dead (for a few years, anyway), but plenty of miners are still in denial about it.

            Looks like this is just the start of the bargains we can expect when they realise they're losing dollars every day the don't sell, and start a panic-dumping price spiral.

    • Won't it drive down the price?

      Depending on when they bought them, they may be well past break even.

      If people have just bought a ex-mining GPU that will comfortably game for the next few years, there's much less incentive to buy a new next generation GPU which should drive the price down.

  • +1

    Well I guess it it's basically would you buy a car that's been driven hard but only has 30,000 KMs on the odo or a car that's driven softly on highway miles but has 200,000km on the clock.

    • +1

      200K Kms and looked after please!

      • And only one owner.

        • With 11 months rego left :D

    • +2

      Which is which in your strange analogy?

    • +2

      Computer chips don't get worse with age and heavy use in the same way that mechanical things like engines do.

      Moving parts like the fan components can wear down, and thermal paste can dry out, but both are replaceable for a few dollars.

      Chips like CPUs and GPUs use last decades without any degradation at all.

      • +2

        yes but the other electrical components do fail like capacitors, voltage regulators etc and are not so easy to replace for the common user.

        • +2

          Some components like capacitors fail with age regardless of whether turned on or not.

        • All those listed items can fail randomly, not related to wear and tear.

    • +1

      Previously owned by old lady that racked up 400,000kms just driving to church on Sundays.

      • Old lady must have been doing donuts and burnouts in the church carpark the way vehicle is looking.

    • id buy the high km one cheap if the motor is serviced. Then like all my cars id go through the bushings, gaskets, new oil pump water pump ect end up at the same price with everything serviced.
      AKA you can do the same on the card, pull the cooler off check/clean/replace the fans and also re-do the thermal grease.
      Being handy isnt for everyone but if you are it pays off.

  • +3

    According to Linus, the ex-mining cards would perform similarly to new cards.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqVvXTanzI

    • +2

      100%, the card is either working or not. It doesn’t degrade in performance. I don’t think anyone disputes that. It’s more so the longevity. Running it for months on end would bring it closer to the point of failure than normal use. You can minimise wear by undervolting and keeping it cleans and cool.
      The problem is the lack of evidence to objectively measure longevity of the cards. There’s a lot of variance in just the cards itself. Two identical cards under the same condition could have years difference in lifespan.
      You’d probably need 100 cards being mined on and 100 cards for “normal use” being tested over years to get a probability graph for both sets to get any conclusive results. Of course no one is going to invest that much time, money and effort to run an experiment like that.

  • +8

    Minor oxidation on the fins of the radiator, some dust but no rust????? Sounds like more the 6 months of mining to me.
    Don't trust anything to do with mining or miners. These people are why you pay so much for a card now.
    They only mined to make money, so when they sell it, they are still trying to make money on it, that was there whole goal of getting it in the first place. So don't believe a word they say. They are trying to make as much money as they can. They are not going to help you, or be honest and fair to you. Money and Greed comes first.
    I say let them keep their cards and not take advantage of people for their profits. Mining cards also come with too many ifs or buts, so avoid at all costs. better of trying to keep saving and buy new in your budget and get a real warranty and a new non abused part for profit.

    • +2

      You can't say such things!

      The cards are under-volted! And miners take care of the cards! Commenters know exactly what the miner was doing with the card during it's use!!!

      /s

  • +1

    you, me, 200

  • +4

    following the great advice here, I decided against buying one of these ex mining cards and purchased a new 4090 instead, thanks OzB!

    • +1

      Only one? Not 10? Much to learn you have young padawan.

    • +3

      Twice the performance for only 5 times the cost!

      • +1

        Sold… shut up and take my money.

    • -1

      If u could buy a new 4090 then why were u debating on buying a used, ex-mining card especially?

      Genuinely asking and no sarcasm involved. On a side note, congrats on the 4090!

      • +4

        They were very much joking. The sarcasm in the comment is all time high.

        • +1

          Lmao seems like i didnt get the joke. sad 😪

        • it was sarcasm until I actually purchased a 4090.. ffs

  • +2

    Buying ex-miner card is like marrying a prostitute

    • +1

      Or a pron star.

    • +7

      I dunno mate, I love her, doesn't matter about the past under-volting.

      • +3

        You could be right. They always were very careful. Using protection.

        • +7

          Cleaner than some random card you met in a dirty lan cafe.

  • +5

    In 2022 you pay almost $600 for a dated, mid tier, second hand, heavily used card….

    • +1

      Does a 3070 ti really count as mid-tier lol

      • +3

        well, 3080 and 3090 are high end… 3050 and 3060 are low end so…

        • +1

          Disagree.
          3050 is entry level.
          3060 is the midrange
          3070 is mid-high
          3080 is high end
          3090 is best of the best.

          You can see in the relative performance graphs the big steps between 3050, 3060, 3070 and 3080 indicative of different level classes while anything above 3080 gets serious diminishing returns.

          • +2

            @FireRunner: lol, you have 5 tiers and you list the 2nd tier as mid-range and the middle tier as mid-high.

            I have a 1070, that was mid-high, but that's because there wasn't a 1090…otherwise it would be a mid-range card…the 3070 series only had 8GB of RAM, the same as my 1070, it is absolutely a mid-range card.

            • @nmartin84: In previous generations the tiering has followed the same pattern as Ive described them
              50 - entry/budget
              60 - midrange
              70 - mid-high
              80 - high end/flagship

              The last generation has introduced the 90 tier but its not far off from 80 and I don’t think it’s pushed everything else down.

      • +1

        Current market on Steam shows that the Mid tier graphics card is still the 1060 6GB. Plenty of people using worse and plenty of people using better but the 1060 is still the mid tier in the current market by use. 3070s by comparison is god tier at the moment.

  • +6

    Patience, this is just the beginning.

    • +2

      Love your videos.

  • +1

    I'm tempted. But this should only be the beginning.

  • oh dang, tempted..

    My 980ti Hybrid card just died.. like when plugged in to the system it wont even turn on.. when i take it out it's fine and onboard takes over.. really wish i could work out how to fix it or even repair it as it still cuts the mustard for older games i'm playing.. (any ideas on repair options i'd love to know).

    That said i've seen new new dropping more and more now 4000's are rolling in.. :/

    • +2

      Shorted 12v line, causes the psu to protect itself and turn off. take cooler off and look for burnt marks. Trying to fix it will cost you more with tools :) went down that rabbit hole.

      • oh dang, yeah sounds like out of my capabilities etc… sad it's dead tho, was a great card..
        dont want it to be e-waste tho, maybe worth selling off or something?

        • +3

          I fix them as a hobby - seen them go for on fleabay - get a least $50 for it.

  • Do not equate a used gaming card with a mining card and even now, mining cards are not priced low enough to compensate the higher risk of failure.
    Mining card works full load 24 hours especially the hot GDDR6X are full load all the time! A gaming card on average only on load for 2-5 hours per day. So with similar age,  mining cards have 5-12 times more full load time than gaming card so the mining cards are in much later phase of the theoretical life span and subject to higher rate of failure ( see the Bathtub curve).
    For the rtx 30 series, the power mosfet and GDDR6X vram of mining cards have high risk of failure. You have much higher risk of going through time/money-consuming RMA process in a short amount of time.

  • +1

    Guys. Don’t buy from miners. Or they will use your money to push the new card price up again!

    Say no to them no matter how cheap they are.

    That’s the way to protect our future

    • +5

      Username checks out.

  • +1

    I like these comments how everyone says its so bad but theres no proof of significant failire on mining rigs. I mean its not good for it of course thats why its significantly reduced but Im contemplating getting one, even if it dies in a few years it seems to be good value

  • Most GPU vendors will go by the manufacturing date for warranty. Unsure about Colorful as I've never had to make a claim with them.

    • +1

      According to @Grunkun it’s covered until Jan 2025.

      • Do they provide an original tax invoice or when these are first used they get activated or some similar to Apple that doesn't need a receipt ?

        • +1

          To quote Grunken:

          I actually checked with the Colorful customer services using the SN in the photo, this card has warranty until Jan 2025, so manufacturing date probably falls in Jan 2022.

        • +1

          Just checked with them. They will provide an original tax invoice from BPCTech.

      • That's just one picture ,and probably not representative of all of them . It may not even be one of the cards sold.

        It's foolish to assume the entire stock was bought in Jan 2022 based on this picture

  • -2

    Worth $100 at most. Can't believe they are trying to offload this crap for over $500.

    • +5

      How did you decide on $100?

      What's an ex-mining 3060, 3080, or 3090 worth?

      • A: What I think it is worth.
        $50, $180 and $300 respectively.

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