Seems like a decent price for a 7800 XT, p̶e̶r̶h̶a̶p̶s̶ ̶A̶T̶L̶?̶ ATL $629, thank you Mr Bacon.
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Asus Dual Radeon RX 7800 XT OC Edition 16GB Graphics Card $698.66 + Delivery ($0 SYD C&C) + Surcharge @ JW Computers
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I'd much rather the Sapphire card. Asus is a scumbag company
Sapphir reign supreme in the AMD space, that's for sure.
Yep, I've got a Sapphire 7800 XT Pure and its been awesome
As an owner of two TUF 3070s that are both crashing, and both out of warranty, and getting stiffed by dogshit support on both of them, I can absolutely say I would avoid Asus just in CASE you have to have them fixed. It's the same reason I felt much better about a Deck over an Ally; as soon as that thing starts to break down or need work, the support for one will always far outshine the other. (I mean, look at how many manufacturing controversies the Deck has been in next to the Ally…)
My TUF 3080 is still going strong since the pandemic in 2019 with 4hrs+ of daily gaming use.
Sure I paid $1k5 AUD back then. But it has yet to failed me. Once the warranty expired I just have to reapply thermal paste for it every now and then. So your mileage can vary with ASUS. Don't just blanket trash the brand.@Caleb9295: Oh don't worry, I don't blanket the brand, and you're an idiot if you do—focus on the product, not the company—but Asus' support has proven time and time again that they will be extremely difficult to work with and get help from. See LTT's forums and pausing of Asus sponsorship for more there.
I hardly strike off Asus as a whole, but, I do see positives and negatives as a way to rank and re-rank companies. When they do well, they go up. When they do poorly, they go down. If Asus is snappy and generous with support, but MSI is trying to shaft customers out of legally mandated warranties, for example, then when I'm looking for a handheld or GPU or monitor, I'll prioritise an Ally, ROG or TUF over a Claw or MPG. Same same in the other direction.
Asus' leadership and support has been lacking of late (as is evidenced by my own support experience just these last weeks) so they're out of my good books. When they do well, or give me a satisfactory result, they'll be back in their place in the line. It's as simple as that.
Asus' support has proven time and time again that they will be extremely difficult to work with and get help from.
This applies to all primarily gaming-oriented OEMs/vendors whether it's ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, Zotac, et al.
I remember dealing with Gigabyte's Australian support team, which consists of 3 or 4 people at the most, none of whom speak English properly nor can answer their support number more than once a week. Completely useless.
None of these lesser OEMs (compared to the big three of Dell, HP & Lenovo) are really known for their strong after-sales support. They can make good products but that's about where they draw the line in terms of their responsibility to their customers. If you care about having robust warranty support, you need to either buy a pre-built system from a system builder like TechFast, BPC, Nebula, etc or be your own warranty and have spares on-hand and/or be able to source them easily.
@Miami Mall Alien: Yeah the issue here is more about the quality of the whole market and less about "azus bad don buyy it" for sure.
My GIGABYTE motherboards/GPUs have always treated me wonderfully in the past but I have long suspected that a shadowy VBIOS update neutered my 1070 Ti; I always felt like it was punching under it's weight, and the longer I go with these boards, the more I start to run into what I think can only be shitty BIOSes and poor support. Screens not always turning on, peripherals sometimes not connecting on startup or 'reconnecting' as if new, and of late since upgrading to Win11, a screwed up boot menu with mostly blank entries which do NOT show up in the BIOS boot override menu.
All that has started to make me wonder what brand I'd go to if were to say "that's it, Gigabyte aren't doing it, time to shop elsewhere" - Asus with their shit support? MSI with their BIOS rootkits and previous price collusion? Who even else is there making GPUs and Mobos? Asrock is essentially US only, EVGA isn't easy to come by down here and might wind up soon anyway, and the Tier 1s all variously have custom ways of doing things or locked BIOSes that will screw with RAM timings or have custom power pins, etc.
I used to work at a disty, and I can back us both up here with knowing how warranty is handled even for distributors/businesses. Parts being kept or sent back NFF with visibly burned ICs, ultra slow or ridiculous communication times and processes, or refusal to do local, obvious things over making us send things around the planet (most obvious example, PSUs, which we used to have to just cut the cables on and send proof, and then dispose ourselves, but started having to ship back—dead—to the manuf) all that stuff.
None of these "Tier 1s" are really worthy of being at the top. There just isn't a better option.
@Caleb9295: Don't worry, Asus will shaft you on motherboards too if you ever run into issues
Ally, mobos, GPUs, laptops, etc. Multiple people have submitted their issues to Gamers Nexus (timestamped for convenience)
damn tempted to pick this up actually
Tempted even for this in an egpu.
I'd highly recommend against purchasing from Centrecom. They are renown for terrible return policies and refusing to refund/exchange DOA products forcing you into doing chargebacks.
BPC Tech have it for $699 as well https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/11330-02-20g-sapphire-pul…
yeah I have the Asus TUF RX 7800XT OC 16gb its the one that came with 2 free games. and has 3 fans on it. But I paid 799 so 100 bucks cheaper is it worth it? not sure, your certainly not going to get the same quality the Asus tuf series will give you.
not sure, your certainly not going to get the same quality the Asus tuf series will give you.
True. At least when you don't buy Asus your card won't burn out and get denied RMA.
I thought about ordering it then, but honestly couldn't bring myself to trust the seller (ebay, didn't recognize the name)
Yeah same, I was considering buying it then as well. But I'm just waiting to see what next gen from all 3 brands (Nvidia, AMD, Intel) will bring to the mainstream/mid range. RX 6700-6800XT are still in stock at some stores right now, and Black Friday not many stores seem to lower their price for the 7000 series, so I don't think 7000 will be out of stock too quickly next year.
I did order it, waited a month, never came. Got a refund. So no more Ebay ones for me. Refund came back to the original GC.
Amazing site, thank you
I ordered with $609 from ebay two weeks ago but takes 3-4 weeks to get deliver.
I'm not sure if those eBay dealers count as legit deals. I ordered one in mid-November and paid $595 (listed at $645, but I could apply a $50 coupon). It was supposed to ship within 15 weeks, but 20 days later there's still no update. The seller hasn't been replying to messages, so I've requested cancellation.
I knew there was some element of risk with a random no-name eBay dealer, but I decided to YOLO it given the low price. Hope eBay comes good with their cancellation policy.
This JW deal (and similar) are the best I've found so far, so ~$699 is arguably an ATL if you count only clearly legit sellers. Having said that, I'm considering waiting a couple of months given the other comments in this thread.
What's the seller name? svetafrank?
Yes, that's the one. Did you use the same seller? Any luck?
@bneb: No reply. No shipping yet. Expecting delivery from 10-17 Dec. Hopefully it will send out. Otherwise I will ask for refund.
My svetafrank one never came ($629 ordered mid Nov). So just get a refund back from Ebay.
@lemonccm: @amaslam and @lemonccm Same here, and there's plenty of negative feedback for the seller. Will hopefully get my money back soon.
I would wait for the rx 8800 xt.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-8800…Raster on par with 7900xtx and uplift on rt performance and less power usage at around the same price as the launch price of 7800xt?
8800xt or 5080?
The 5080 will likely be at least twice the price of the 8800 XT
Rx 8800 is mid tier card for amd and amd wont be competing with high end nvidia now. So not a fair comparison.
will AMD have a 5080 or 5090 equivalent card?
5080 and 5090 have been deemed to be "cards for professionals" by nvidia, this is what the sales staff at stores have been told to tell the customer. Basically all this means is that these cards will cost "professional" level prices.. the 8800XT is probably going to compete with the 5070/Ti and if AMD have half a brain (their gpu division doesn't) at much lower price..
if your ok with 2k+ for a 5080 or 3.5-4k for a 5090 then those are your only options.
nVidia are being really scummy marketing Geforce cards as "professional", when they are limited to half rate tensor core throughput when running FP32 accumulate, and lack driver optimisations for CAD/CAM applications like the Titans had. So they ended up charging Titan prices for the xx90 GPUs while forcing people needing the things that were specific to Titan cards to Quadro.
@twister292: Unfortunately it's one of the most valuable companies on the planet, has next to no competition in the Ai and consumer GPU space so they can do whatever they want to and everyone will line up to pay them what they want. AMD should get a good portion of the blame for not being there to keep the competition honest… in some cases trying to join them in their scummy pricing tactics with inferior products.
they are only cards for pros because AMD cant compete
when Amd brought in RDNA2, Nvidia slashed their prices on 30xx by halfscummy comp but AMD isnt much better with their CPUs now costing an arm and a leg
Never trust rumours :) not a bad idea to hodl though
Thats true. The performance rumour of the rx 8800xt is too good to be true. But I do hope it is close to it.
Each new release people say wait for the new cards. But the new cards are so expensive so you wont buy one anyway.
The expected price for 8800XT will be 900 AUD or more though (looking at 7800XT and 6800 non-XT launch AU MSRP). Mid-tier card or not, AMD tend to just undercut Nvidia equivalent by a little at launch and then just slash prices over time. This leads to not great launch-day reviews, and only get highly recommended towards the tail-end of the generation with great price/performance. Their pricing strategy has been terrible the last couple of gens.
Agreed. If AMD were just a bit more aggressive on price out the gate, closer to the mid-end of lifecycle prices for current gen equivalent, I feel like their sale numbers would increase considerably.
If the rumors are true and it is faster than a 7900XTX then that is a good deal $900aud vs $1500aud. Even if it was a step up from a 7900XT 20gb that's still good XT is $1200aud.
If it's copying nvidia rather than competing (ie, a tiny step up from 7800XT but 'FSR4 a.i blah blah') and released at $900aud then this deal would be a missed opportunity.
Thank you for giving me anxiety as I am in the HODL crowd for next gen lol.
Exactly what this guy said, wait for the 8800.
The 8000 series is already ready to ship just they put a delay on it for a few months because of the excessive 7000 series stock.
Ridiculous take, new GPUs will be way more expensive. I'm pretty sure when they come out, you'll tell them to wait for prices to drop, like they usually do etc. Endless cycle.
How does this compare to a RTX 4070?
Better rasterisation, worse ray tracing and no DLSS (if you care about those features)
no dlss but has FSR which is as good as dlss in actual gameplay
you can also inject fsr in any game, officially supported or not
FSR 3.1 is no way as good as DLSS in quality, the frame gen is cool though as I have a RTX 3070 atm.
@Bargaphile: Yeah it's really not as good, sometimes by quite a margin, I don't know why people purposely spread that misinformation as if they have a vested interest in it. I test it in every game I play that has both and it's always not only markedly inferior, but the artefacts like disocclusion fizzle are immersion breaking for me.
AMD do offer you more memory and rasterization performance for your money, and some pretty neat software like AFMF2 so it's not like there aren't other advantages that can be spruiked instead of being disingenuous about FSR.
@foxpants: in my testing you can only see differences if taking screenshots, not actual gameplay
people loved to praise dlss 2.0, which is now inferior to fsr, but somehow fsr isn't good enough now
bias from nvidia owners to justify the premium
@CrazyTachikoma: Did you miss what I said? I test it in actual gameplay, not screenshots or zoomed in. It's absolutely in motion and gameplay that the shortcomings jump out at me - they actively attract my gaze and break my immersion.
When DLSS came out it wasn't perfect but it was revolutionary, and guess what, the bar has moved since then, even if FSR is as good as 2.0 (better in some ways, worse in others), DLSS didn't sit still and has further improved. Why on earth should we rate FSR today against DLSS 2.0 from 2020? We compare whats available in games today, and that's typically FSR 3.0/.1 vs DLSS 3.5+
From where I sit, it feels more like bias from AMD owners to make them feel better about their purchase as if they aren't legitimately missing out on a better scaling solution.
The beauty of owning an RTX card is you can test all the solutions and make up your own mind which looks best, so I certainly don't require FSR users to tell me it's just as good (or better) because trust me bro.
@Bargaphile: This.
I normally go AMD because I'm a "bang for buck" guy, but FSR is not on par with DLSS and with a 4K monitor upscaling is often a necessity, not a choice.
Before thinking this over, I was going to get a 7900 XTX for my next build, but decided I'm going with a 4080 Super instead (I can't afford a Nvidia card that's higher tier than that), mostly for how much better DLSS is, plus it giving me more options for local machine learning (because CUDA rules supreme in the AI space).
Plus, I keep hearing people say that they've had no issues recently with Nvidia drivers, but my experience with my last two GPUs has been otherwise. The more recent GPU has been much more stable than the RX580 I had before that, but I still have issues (particularly with video calls for some weird and incredibly annoying reason, Google Meet can crash three or four times in an hour, which isn't great for a work machine).
Let me break that down for you:
Better rasterisation: +~10%
Worse ray tracing: -~80%
No DLSS: Stop pretending nobody cares. No, FSR isn't as "just as good or better".Bonus:
No CUDA support or actually functioning alternative: -~2,000% slower for AI workloads. You can swear AI celibacy and/or declare it to be the root of all evil, but other rational human beings may value this.Conclusion: Approximately 90% of buyers must be "nvidiots". You are the only person who sees the TRUTH that AMD is great value. They are getting more expensive as they age, just like fine wine.
Bonus:
No CUDA support or actually functioning alternative: -~2,000% slower for AI workloads. You can swear AI celibacy and/or declare it to be the root of all evil, but other rational human beings may value this.Had to check this because surely AMD have launched ROCm for the 7800 XT by now as it's been almost 1.5 years since the August 2023 launch
kirikkou 3 days ago
It's been more than one year since this topic was created.. any update on this support for 7800 XT using wsl 2?schung-amd 3 days ago
Sorry for the delay! I'm speaking with internal teams and will hopefully have an update regarding this, but will probably not be able to give any timelines regardless.schung-amd 2 days ago
Unfortunately, while extending official hardware support is definitely on our radar, I'm unable to provide any updates/commitments at this time regarding the 7800XT and other gfx1101 cards. We understand this is a need for many users, and I will update here when I'm able to provide more information.
LOL
Don't worry, I'm sure the 8800 XT will have full day 1 support for FSR 4 and ROCm
Why wouldn't anyone care about DLSS?
Probably a better idea to spend $100 more on a 4070 super or wait for another 4070 super sale where it drops to $750.
I'm running an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB. Is this a decent upgrade for me?
I think at 1440p you'd go from medium settings to very high/RT
I did this exact upgrade at the start of the year and it basically doubled my frame rate.
Same here, plus runs way cooler.
6700 XT was cleared out at $460
7800 XT is 50% faster for 50% more dollars but you're lumped with the crippled RDNA 3 architecture
And the fanboys saying FSR 3 is good are smoking the good stuff
AMD themselves finally admitted FSR 3 is garbage because they have now gone full AI with FSR 4 on RDNA 4 - just like DLSS and XeSS
AMD didn't want to face reality until Sony kicked them up the ass to develop RT and AI for the PS5 Pro
As known more than a year ago, RDNA 3 is a complete flop and without big price cuts, represents diabolical value when even the top tier $1400 7900 XTX will get smoked by the $1000 8800 XT in modern workloads
I will never understand people mass upvoting deals like this where it's not even close to ATLs and we're about 1-2 months away from next gen. People do the same for samsung phones too.
Need to put something under the Christmas tree.
fair enough for this deal, but not so much for all the other similar posts throughout the year.
people upvote because its AMD no other reason
Almost one month later and still no lower price, maybe you'll understand why people upvote deals.
as a previous 3080 owner and now 7900 xt that have used dlss and fsr 3.1 I say that your comment is garbage
amd hasnt admitted shit, but there are limits of what you can do without specific hw acceleration on chip
many implementations of dlss are a blur mess
good implementations of fsr are excellent, including frame generation
but you gotta justify the premium for your nvidia gpu, same stupid shit intel owners did for the past decade
What's wrong with RDNA3?
What's wrong with FSR3?Nothing
What's wrong with RDNA3?
- This 7800 XT is only 5% faster than the 6800 XT that was released 3 years earlier
- Top tier 7900 XTX is an inefficient power hog due to the fundamentally flawed chiplet architecture
- Performance does not scale at all with power
- FPS per watt is always behind NV and diabolical for certain popular titles
- Power usage with multiple monitors is poor due to the poor VRAM controller
- Hobbyist level AI is a write off because ROCm is garbage compared to CUDA. When you do get it working, 7900 XTX has similar speeds to a 3070 for image generation
- RT is a write off as well due to the lack of matrix cores - even Intel has better RT with the XMX cores on the now $400 Arc A770 16GB
What's wrong with FSR3?
- The upscaling algorithm is basically a sophisticated Photoshop resize filter run on each frame
- Compared to DLSS and XeSS more ghosting, smearing, shimmering, artefacts and particle corruption
- For the PS5 Pro, Sony rejected FSR 3 to develop their own AI based PSSR algorithm
- Not wanting the $1000 8800 XT to have worse upscaling than a console, AMD finally saw the light to develop an AI based FSR 4
- Assuming AMD support FSR 4 on RDNA 3, there will be a performance hit due to the crippled RDNA 3 hardware. This means RTX 40 series + DLSS becomes an even better option compared to RDNA 3 + FSR 4
sorry for the slow reply, thanks for the detailed info.. Im an AMD fanboy and I want them to rival nvidia but seems true that both these things are below standard.. and sadly I don't think its common knowledge
i have an 'old' ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, i believe it is a hardware GSync monitor, what are anyones opinions on this card with this monitor? AMD's are so much better value than Nvidia, i don't have the budget for a better monitor as well as a pc upgrade
I use a 7800 XT with my Alienware 3440x1440p 165Hz monitor and its great. I've never used Gsync/freesync in my life.
So you're managing to stay above 165 hz at that resolution? Max settings?
Most likely not. Unless they're playing Stardew Valley or smth
ignorance is bliss, most people dont know what it does
That obviously depends on the game.
I'd wait for 8000 series coming Q1 '25.
Gah these are every tempting, I'm HODLing on for dear life. Need to replace an old RX 580 haha
About a year ago, I bought 7800 XT Sapphire Nitro + for ~$760 upgrading from an RX 580. Huge difference, much better frames.
But, if you've waited this long may as well save a little extra and HODL the 8800 XT when it comes out.Wait until Jan. New AMD and Nvidia cards hitting around the same time which should push down prices on current models.
US tarrifs will probably screw things up, but that won't be any earlier than Jan 20, so hopefully new models release before then, or at least we get price drops on current models before then.
Same still rocking a RX580.
Doesnt a 7800 need 3 fans? Surely it runs hot
yeah i had this exact card back in june-july and it got loud. Swapped it for a dual fan 4070(mainly for skyrim VR, some mods just tank fps on amd) and its noticeably quieter while retaining equal raster.
I have a lower spec nvidia asus dual. Just wanted to point out it is quite noisey and i would always go a triple fan gpu in future for a few bucks more.
Why not wait until the Rtx 4070 super goes down to $750 or less again on boxing day. Or just wait for the new 8800xt which should be a little dearer
Good buy at this price and JW are pretty good to deal with
This deal is too late and I have already bought 7900 XT a month ago without much deal T_T
(Handing in my ozb badge)
Asus are painful to deal with. Bought a brand new RX 7900 XTX from a well-known, well-established retailer and upon installing it, it was constantly crashing in COD Warzone and Fortnite but was stable in Furmark and other benchmarking software. Not wanting to believe I received a faulty card out of the box, I replaced my motherboard, RAM and PSU and the crashes remained.
Sent it back to the retailer who initially told me it wasn't faulty (tested by two techs) and I basically had to end up begging them to keep the card until another tech got back (as when I dropped it off, he seemed to think the GPU's memory was faulty, based on what I described). Since they couldn't run games, the third test used a memtest utility and within 10 minutes (can take hours for the test to complete), it was throwing up errors. Retailer RMAed it to Asus who had it for about 1.5 weeks before sending it back with minimal notes that didn't make much sense. The retailer sent it back to me I realised that Asus didn't do anything and my card was still faulty. In the end, the retailer agreed to replace it with their stock and said they'd take it up with Asus.
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Nice price. Can also see Centrecom has the Sapphire Pulse for 699 free shipping too, unsure re surcharges
https://www.centrecom.com.au/sapphire-pulse-amd-radeon-rx-78…