Of course I know the cheap Chinese no-name stuff is a death trap, but obviously don't want to waste money. I also know you can find tyres new cheaper, but how much should the RRP be on a new standard sedan on road tyre from a known brand to not get junk while not getting ripped off?
How Much Should I Pay for New Tyres?
bomberswarm2 on 26/02/2022 - 10:48
Last edited 26/02/2022 - 10:57 by 1 other user
Last edited 26/02/2022 - 10:57 by 1 other user
Poll Options
- 31Under $100
- 50$100-$125
- 31$125-$150
- 6$150-$175
- 23$175-$200
- 277Over $200
Comments
Better tyres also last longer
That's not true.
Better tyres might be a softer rubber which provides more grip at the cost of longevity.
+1. It does depend on your personal opinion on what is better. Longevity is generally a trade off to grip. Some people prefer long life to grip.
Around $300+ per tyre RRP, but ozbargainer ends up paying $150-200.
I don't worry about longevity go for performance tyres, well worth it especially in the wet.im blown away that people skimp on the very thing that holds them on the road
Both my cars have tyres that cost over 450 each.
I wouldnt think twice about the price when i know what im getting is basically my safety.
What tyres would you recommended? I’m currently running P Zeros on my Golf but my mates all reckon the high end Continentals are the way to go.
currnrently have p zeros in my other car but my car with pilot super sport 4s are much better
michellin handles better in the wet as well
Which Michelin's are we talking?
@bobbified: Most cars which benefit most from the PS4s likely come from factory in a size which you can get.
I run ps4s on my car, not cheap but well worth the money.
@mrfuku: Yeh I do too. I've put 30,000kms on it and still stacks of tread left. I expected them to wear a little quicker, so I'm quite impressed. When it eventually does, I would definitely get them again.
I wouldn't say cheap Chinese tires are a death trap but you gotta drive conservatively knowing that you have sub-standard tires.
Generally, I wouldn't buy cheap Chinese tires but at the time my brand new (3months old) Pirelli tires copped a nail and I just couldn't afford to replace it with anything decent so on went the Chinese rubber. They were fine but pretty sketchy in the wet.
all tyre selling in Australia are qualified with AU standard, so you are saying the AU standard is too low.
Yes it is too low. Tyres that are deemed unfit for use in Germany are shipped here and sold as second hand. AU standards for tyres, brakes and driver competency are way too low
You are part of the problem by buying and supporting the cheap communist crap
You are part of the racism problem when you say things like that.
There is nothing wrong with a cheap Chinese tyre sold in Australia that meets the Australian Standards.
If you don't like how the tyre performs then blame the Australian Standard not the entire country and people from where the tyre was made.
Let me guess, there is nothing wrong with communism either nor heads of Communist states that think it's alright to walk all over a peaceful country?
And maybe you should re-read what I wrote: "AU standards for tyres, brakes and driver competency are way too low"
Let me guess, there is nothing wrong with communism either nor heads of Communist states that think it's alright to walk all over a peaceful country?
I never said anything close to that.
And maybe you should re-read what I wrote:
Maybe you should look at the comment I replied to where you said
No, they are a death trap, and should be illegal in this country. You are part of the problem by buying and supporting the cheap communist crap
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/11817434/redir
cheap Chinese tires
Sounds exhausting…
Especially when inflating them by mouth
This question is vague and impossible to answer unless you specify the make and especially size of the tyres. The prices can vary by a lot.
No, they are not death traps. What do you intend to do with your vehicle… what weather conditions… what typical speed…
you can get away with dirt cheap tyres…. and save 100sUntil you can't stop in time and run over a lady pushing a pram on a crossing? But if it doesn't happen to you, it doesn't matter, right?
Drive to the conditions. I’ve just replaced some tyres, horrible, noisy, slippery things. I adjusted my driving to suit, especially in the wet. Newer tyres have much better grip so I can drive faster now and be just as safe.
U can have cheap tyres, or u can have tyres than can handle roads and may one day save your life and that of others. Get Toyo tyres
Actually I put 2 "Grenlanders" $125 fitted each ( Chinese ) on my Territory's rear, a SUV heavy rating tyre, and although they seemed a bit slippy for the first 100 kms, they settled down. They are super quiet and smooth and are now as grippy as…. So I put two on the front a few months later.Same deal. So I went up Tamborine mountain, SE Qld 4 months ago. Its a very high rainforest plateau with very steep twisty roads, a big storm came over so I made a hasty retreat, flooded steep roads, debris from trees and gravel, lots of water, tight bends and for many kms, they behaved perfectly, I was amazed. No slip, no wandering just great road hugging. Same story today, huge downpours here, just got back from Brissy , fast motorway driving ( with bends on major intersections ) and the same - dual carriageway rural driving, again flawless performance, no hint of a slip anywhere even under braking
I really pains me to say this but these Chinese tyres are brilliant, and when you consider the price amazing !!!!!But, but, but ……..CCP. 😮
I got Greenlanders on my sedan too. Very happy with them.
I'd rather pay a bit more and not reward the Chinese government for all the sanctions they have put on our primary producers.
I avoid Chinese made products as much as possible…
Some chinese tyres are decent now
Theres also brands that sound like chinese that are actually good
i.e nankangIt is quite true that not all no-name Chinese tyres are rubbish these days - all things Chinese in cars have improved very rapidly.
But the problem is that SOME are still rubbish, and because they're no-name you have no way of knowing which ones they are. I reckon in another few years there will be established brands of cheap but respectable Chinese tyres, but in the meanwhile you are buying a pig in a poke.
Perhaps just go with cheapest option from premium category or best option from mid-range category of tyres that fit your car. Discussing with retailers like mycar.com.au might help to narrow your options.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I picked up a set of Bridgestone ecopia 195/65/15 + wheel alignment for just shy of $500 during a buy 3 get 1 free in 2017.
Those tyres are fine for normal driving - nothing brilliant but not a death trap either
is that poll for $ per tyre?
Why “Chinese”? Isn’t any low quality tyre not worth the risk regardless of the country that is originally manufactured?
Cause casual racism is acceptable here and Australia in general if it's to chinese people.
What other country makes every single product available?
China makes 100% of all products in existence?
@spaceflight: A better way to phrase my previous comment to better reflect what I was trying to say would have been:
What country makes something that China does not also make? China is recognised as a producer of basically every type of goods. Due to sheer volume, everybody seems to have an experience with them. Also due to the volume, comes the inevitability of dealing with faulty/unsatisfactory goods.
Now I am not commenting of the rates of unsatisfactory goods, but due to the number (not rate) of experiences, China has gained a reputation in peoples minds.
disclaimer: I don't hate Chinese people, often buy Chinese goods, have had good quality and bad products, and most of the time the stuff I buy that breaks is cheap made in China stuff.
Always have bought the most expensive tyres. Night and day difference. I don't cheap out on tyres but do like the 4 for 3 deals that pop up.
This is a terrible poll. Is the price per tyre or for four? The scaling is out of whack too.
Not to mention the type of car is not even mentioned. A european high end sedan can NOT take regular tyres either, they'll be super wide and only a few models will have those sizes. If its a camry on the other hand, everyone will have sizes for them.
Depends on the car type!
I have a 4WD and paid $175 for Toyo ATs.
Small SUVs you can get away with Pirellis for ~$135.
Bunlop Rolerra YT003
As mentioned above, higher pricing does not necessarily correlate with higher quality, especially with the big brands. As with all brands and types of products, sometimes a suboptimal 'high-end' product can enter the market.
As an example, I purchased a set of Michelin Primacy 3 ST for about $1,300 a few years ago, so well over $200 a tyre (the most popular poll choice). Despite diligent tyre pressure monitoring and regular wheel alignments and a rotation, after only two years and barely 30,000 kms, each tyre began to show sidewall cracking and my reputable local tyre dealer indicated that it would soon become a safety issue.
As I was going away with the family to the Dandenong Ranges in a couple of days, I asked that he provide the best value good quality tyres he had available. The complete set of Michelins was replaced for just under $800 with a set of Toyo Proxes C100 Plus tyres. These tyres were $500 less than the Michelins and handled well for the next couple of weeks, even in the hilly Dandenon Ranges. They were similarly responsive with only minor differences that can be felt during handling due to the tyres being general purpose tyres rather than sports tyres.
After a couple of weeks Michelin acknowledged that the product (Primacy 3 ST) had prematurely deteriorated and provided a very significant discount against my purchase of a brand new set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres (normally around $350 each). The Toyos that I used for two weeks are now in my garage and will be used again when my Michelin PS 4 tyres need to be replaced. The Pilot Sport 4 tyres are excellent (9/10 driving experience) and have lasted much longer than the Primacy 3 ST tyres.
Ultimately the poll is flawed because consumers need to be analytical and as drivers maintain and monitor their tyres. The Primacy 3 ST tyres were $300 each but ultimately not designed for hot Australian conditions and the sidewalls deteriorated a lot faster than normal. The Toyo tyres were less than $200 a tyre but provided a very similar driving experience to the Primacy 3 ST tyres (an 8/10 driving experience).
My advice: find a reputable tyre dealer, discuss your needs and options, do your research and then monitor your tyres for issues in case things do not go as planned. Regular tyre pressure checks, yearly wheel alignments (or every 10,000kms) and occasional wheel rotations are necessary to keep the tyres in good condition. The best tyres in the world will quickly perform like the worst tyres in the world if not properly maintained.
many countries make shitty tyres, why do you have to name and shame china
Cause casual racism is acceptable here and Australia in general if it's to chinese people.
I don't think the poll options go high enough, but you didn't specify the size required which makes a big difference.
There are no tyres for my car for less than $200.
As pointed out, the poll is a bit meaningless as it doesn't take into account size of the tyre or type of car.
The previous owner put absolute trash tyres on our car. They spun easily in the rain, the car felt a bit unstable cornering.
Having better tyres on the car was a huge improvement - no more spinning, the car felt a lot better cornering and significantly reduced road noise.
After reading online about buying tyres, the recommendation was to choose something that balances life and grip. I found it hard to find reviews of tyres online and it required a bit of time going through search results.
You should by tyres on special.
Ask in person (with eye contact) at a standard tyre shop what is on special. Write them down. (Ask for the final price with fitting and balancing).
Then while at the tyre shop google each one and see if they are indeed on special.
Then make a standard decision.
this is amazingly dumb thread
a normal person would say…
"hey guys, I own a 2017 RAV4. Its 4wd. It uses 225/65/18 tyres. Currently I have the OEM Bridgestones on it but they're down to 3mm. I dont go offroad"
but this guy??? fmd low effort.
Haha I know right. I don’t about 3mm! I have a feeling this guy is down to the belts but on the fence whether the Chinese tyre is safer.
Somewhere between $60-$1000 a corner.
I bought Bridgestone buy 3get1free offer tyres for my Toyota Camry for $450ish. All good except even in lightest rain when car is accelerated from a traffic light the car just sits there and spins even with slightest pedal pressure.
I find kumho are a good balance between cost and not being a deathtrap
It really depends where you are. I typically spend ~$650 to $800 on a set of tyres, but it varies hugely between make and model.
You generally don’t need the most expensive tyres unless you’re driving a performance car. I look for fuel efficiency and wet weather performance in reviews.
At the moment I’m using Goodyear Assurance Triplemax 2, which have been quieter and better in the wet than the Michelin Pilot Sports they replaced. It depends on your car, its specific wheel size, the available range of tyres, how much weight you’re carrying, and the conditions it’s being used in.Tyres can be randomly expensive, too. I used to drive a Hyundai Veloster Turbo, and the specific model year had a wheel size shared only with a model of Porsche. I had to pay >$300/tyre, because there was nothing else.
Just another comment, nobody here is anti Chinese, the comments here are because China makes most of the products we buy. Some of the them are excellent and others total trash.
I bet many of you talking about your quality " big name brands tyres" have never actually looked at where they were made. Many of you will be shocked. I thought the reason for this post was about how to get decent tyres at a low cost , without really compromising on safety, ride, and wear. From my own experience there are now some cheap Chinese tyres that met this criteria,
I have taking the plunge, as in my earlier post, and done just that. But in the past I had some Chinese tyres that were truely truely awful.
Again, I have put "Grenlander" SUV tyres on my Ford Territory and they are absolutely brilliant And low cost. And no I have nothing to do with the company, Im retired and spend my days doing large Kms travelling to all the interesting places around rural and coastal SE Qld !Check https://www.tyrereview.com.au for reviews and tyroola.com.au for rough pricing.. then work from there for cheapest place for that particular brand and model.
Currently driving our Mazda 2 on KINFOREST 195/45R16 84W KF 550 XL.
$401 installed via Tyroola, fitted Sept 2020.
Haven't died yet.
The majority of all tyres are now made in CHINA such as Dunlop, Yokohama, Pirelli etc. So you cannot say Chinese tyres are bad.
I know few dealers sell 2nd hand tyres 5% used, actually they are tyres which has passed used by date ie more than 5 years from the date of mfg and they cant sell as brand new and those tyre you can get it fitted for $ 55 each for mid-size car. I know few students who are tight-fisted have fitted these tyres on their car and they are happy.
it all depends upon the type of use you want and how fast you drive and is it for long term use or just to get a car pass on to another buyer.
Buy a reputed brand when they are on special, if you spend time doing research and give a call to tyre seller then you can get some good bargain.
my personal preference is to go with Yokohama they are expensive but worth extra money.
The majority of all tyres are now made in CHINA such as Dunlop, Yokohama, Pirelli etc. So you cannot say Chinese tyres are bad.
OMG - that's like saying a VW made in China is the same as a Great Wall because they're made in China :) There's def a bit of difference with tyres from reputable brands even though quality has improved…
Don't bother. Dumb people will always be dumb no matter how much you try to straighten them out.
In 2017, China was the leading tyre market accounting for almost 49% of the global tyre industry.
https://www.expertmarketresearch.com/reports/tire-marketSo yes it is correct to say the majority of all tyres are now made in China.
Ooohhhh. So close. Almost 49% isn’t the majority. It’s be the largest supplier.
@Euphemistic: Ohhhh you mustn't have passed English and Maths.
If China accounts for 49% of the tyre industry then that is the majority because no single other country has a larger share.
It’s be the largest supplier.
It's funny because you defined majority while trying to say it isn't the majority.
majority
noun
the larger number or part of something:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/majority
I normally go for kuhmos which have been pretty solid tyres. I get pricing from tempe tyres and get kmart tyre auto (my Car) to price match them which normally works out allot cheaper than going to a normal shop.
i recently did 4 x 215 55 r17 Kuhmo HS51 for $436 fitted.
I'm not a car enthusiast and my first car was 2nd hand. When I finally needed to replace the tyres I went to the shop and bought on price. I got some BCT tyres.
BIG mistake. Dry wasn't so bad, however the first time I drove in the rain I was amazed it actually slipped with my regular braking. I had to brake very gently every time it rained until I finally replaced them.
Like everyone else has said, good tyres are worth extra money
tyres are the type of things you want to over spend rather than under spend .. just saying
Why?
How do you know a more expensive one is better?Tyres are, you clearly haven't driven on the communist rubbish in the wet have you?
Tyres are
How do you know.
you clearly haven't driven on the communist rubbish in the wet have you
As I said to you before
If you don't like how the tyre performs then blame the Australian Standard not the entire country and people from where the tyre was made.
tyres are the type of things you want to over spend rather than under spend
To a point. Spending a little more will probably get you a safer/better tyre but spending ‘even more’ won’t make an appreciable difference to the average driver.
I could spend a fortune on street legal race tyres but not get any benefit because my car doesn’t go fast enough or get driven long enough to warm them up to get the extra performance.
I just get the bob-jane all rounder for like $120 each
this question is as clear as "How much should I pay for a house in Australia ?"
Dumb poll , dumb post, dumb replies.
How the heck do you expect to receive advice if you don't state what size tyre your car takes? If you don't know, at least state what car you own.
Another weirdo who protects the make/model info as if they are credit card details..I put Michelin Sports 2 on all my tyres (Mercedes C Class, 245/40ZR17 95Y XL (rear) 225/45ZR17 94Y XL (front)) - and they had only 'just' passed the first rego check for being close to bald just 8 months/7000km later… My wife did borrow my car about 3-4 times in that time though…
Drove mostly on dry roads to/from the train station in traffic, or highway from Syd>Melb - and not a single 'fast off the mark', or skid; and always kept pressure up. While I haven't had any issues performance wise; pretty disappointed in them for longevity - paid full price at a JAX $1300. I would just check Costco deals now, they offer some decent brands and some decent discounts.
Have only done about 1500km this year due to WFH/COVID; but renewal is coming up so probably need to swap them out; keeping an eye out for any good deals.When was the last time you had a wheel alignment and are they wearing evenly or unevenly and where (e.g. inner, outer, both, etc)? I also have a C class - running Michelin (Primacy 4) 225/45/17s with no wear issues after 20k.
I did alignment with tyre replacement - They did 3 alignments; but in saying that; they failed to get the steering wheel to stay straight in all of them, apparently its very difficult for them to fine-tune, and while they said the tyres were all perfectly aligned; the wheel will still pull ever so slightly to the left.
They're wearing relatively evenly, no obvious outer/inner/side walls are worn. I would have expected them to last about 30,000km; barely made 10,000, maybe worthwhile switching both to 225/45's. The Pilot 2's may also be much softer, perhaps, than the Pilot 4's (C200 2012)The Michelin variant you have may well have a softer compound due to it's sports orientation but then again 10k falls short of what you've expect for tyre life . It might be worthwhile taking it to a suspension specialist and have it expertly aligned, tyre places can be hit and miss when it comes to wheel alignments, whether that is due to time pressures to rush an alignment or lack or skill and experience. Given they did 3 alignments I am thinking it may be the latter. Also ask for a 4 wheel alignment, sometimes only the fronts are checked and adjusted. Hope you can get to the bottom of the wear issues.
@Dc80: They need to do the alignment to the factory spec. Specific to the VIN of the vehicle.
Dealer will be able to give provide this, and any tyre shop working for a dealer 'should' also be doing this.
A lot of shops use 'general' settings that work for all, or look them up using third party data sources that do not take into account the car's factory options. These need to be avoided.
Also make sure the car is loaded the way you drive it, the majority of the time. Eg 2/3 tank of fuel, and any things you usually have with you.
In Germany, wheel aligners put a 80kg bag on the drivers seat ;-) Never seen that done here…
I had this on my C Class and went to so many tire places to align until I went to a specialist and they knew straight away it was a camber bolt or pin or something along those lines, which they said is pretty common, hence them knowing straight away.
The car has tracked straight with a straight steering wheel ever since and my Continentals are wearing evenly.
I've been using cheap tyres ($65 ish) each for a year now. They have been good in all conditions. I'll change them soon with the same brand.
The car (Camry) is shared between me and my wife so there is alot of driving.
When I got a brand new car, it was fitted with Chinese tyres by the dealership. I didnt know if it was good or not, but does the job until it started raining. I would skid on a roundabout. Also noticed it would even attempt to skid on dry road! That's around 3-4km on the tyre.
When my sidewall got punctured, took an opportunity to swap for better tyres. Grip and handling is so much better and l feel a lot safer I won't skid.
And that's why they should be illegal. China is not known for designing and producing Quality products in this space. They try to imitate and reverse engineer well known products, but add too much of something to the mix and screw up the compound.
True. It's lesson learned.
Whoa, which brand new car fitted you with Chinese tyres?
Not the same, but a mate also doesn't fancy the cheap $60 tyres he had fitted on his car. Made his car into a death trap when driving in the wet, even when being very careful accelerating and turning. Just not worth the risk.
I was surprised, but I guess it's cost cutting as the rims were aftermarket. The brand was Mark Ma.
Which car? Haval, MG? Sounds like you aren’t driving properly. Factory tyres are usually half decent.
Nah Nissan, but the tyres came with aftermarket rims and aftermarket tyres. the brand of the tyre is Mark Ma.
Initially when I was driving on wet road I could have been going fast, but there's no excuse for it to slid going around a round about at 20-30.
Aaahhh. So not factory tyres. I’ve also had a dealer fit new tyres to a used car as per of the sale deal. Learned my lesson, they put stupidly noisy no-name brand tyres on. I would have been much better to get the cost of the tyres deducted and put my own on.
Been using Hankook Optimo tyres ($86ea for r15). They've been great, no complaints, wet weather has been fine too. Pretty happy with value to quality ratio and I'd probably go with Korean again for replacements.
Just so you know Kumho is now chinese-owned
Mine will cost me $340 per corner.Michelin Primacy SUV.I really do not care about the price.It is what it is.
don't care about the price??? why you here
go to bob jane head office store port melbourne they will give it to you at any price you ask
Better tyres also last longer so it’s also an investment to spend a bit more, and you won’t need to replace as soon.