I Am A Roulette Aficionado Thinking of Sharing My Experience

MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 05:32
Last edited 28/11/2021 - 19:34 by 1 other user

Ok here’s a doozy for ya. I’ve been here for some time and give a bit of ribbing and take a bit so be playful if you want but not mean ok?

I play Roulette 7 days a week. Not with many thousands of dollars but with a small bank roll to keep it stress free. Most people that know me or watch me are very inquisitive about my game, strategy and my strict adherence to certain shall we say rules I apply to myself which allows me to keep going back and not blow all my money like the average Joe or Josephine.

I’ve shared my skill with one other person, a poker player, but they couldn’t control themselves and after some initial success thought they could go big. It was a disaster - for them and I told them they shouldn’t gamble EVER. It didn’t end well.

With all the crypto investors out there I figure my roulette strategies are no worse than playing the crypto market. So my big question is would anybody pay to be coached in this timeless battle against the house and what would they expect for their money? Hypothetically of course.

EDIT: I did say it was a doozy and OzB’s have delivered pretty much what I expected. I could look up a word in the dictionary to describe what that looks like but I think the replies speak for themselves. Thank you one and all!

Mod: Removed inflammatory edits.

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        • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 08:45
          -3

          Ok. Go spend some time watching others play. Most people get high on a nice win which often makes them take bigger risks. The more risks they take the more likely they are to lose. The odds are set over a long period so any short period could swing either way. The longer they play the more chance there is of losing. Short periods and taking your money out of play on a high can affect your success or failure rate depending on your discipline and experience. Also the most important factor is your state of mind. The most dangerous time to gamble is when you are ahead so that is when your mental state needs to kick in to help you and not hurt you.

      • singlemalt72 on 17/11/2021 - 08:42
        +3

        If the odds were in the player’s favour the house would still make money

        No, that's not how it works.

        The odds are ALWAYS in favour of the house - the only way that ever changes is through systems like card counting or cheating. Casinos are fully aware of all the systems that may be used and actively police them.

        • TEER3X on 17/11/2021 - 08:45

          Maybe they mean blackjack / card counting, or some other external factor to swing the odds to their advantage.

          I know of more professionals that did well back in the day, and only of one person that lost everything, but in reality, it's easily the other way around.

          The dude that lost his money started with $2k, built it up to $120k over a couple of days, I thought he was playing the drunk and was counting cards, but wasn't sure, so I kept telling him to quit and take the money, and nobody ever listens of course. Ended up losing everything, borrowing money from friends, and losing that too.

          • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 18:45

            @TEER3X: I’ve told many people to take their win and go home. Once this young guy was betting $1000 on corners which pay 8 to 1. He had 3 wins among his bets in a short time which gave him close to $15000 in his hand after losing some bets. I said to him that he couldn’t possibly hope to improve on that. He finally walked away with $5000. If I wasn’t there I’m sure he would have blown the lot.That is the only I’ve actually seen actually do this on a main gaming floor in my entire experience so you can see how rare it was.

    • wiipantz on 17/11/2021 - 08:39
      +1

      Casino's generally welcome card counters or system degenerates nowdays as they can be a solid earner overall for them. The key is an unfair advantage which is increasingly hard to exploit now days. Slow unbalanced wheels maybe, indented dice perhaps, sloppy cuts to the deck sure… most of those don't exist anymore and if you don't know every game is rigged then you need your head examined. Most casino's even tell you the percentage is rigged too, but if your happy to pay for entertainment then go for it. I personally don't mind playing occasionally and for fun but each to their own. Snake oil selling and the like is just wrong and should be reported.

      • machej on 21/11/2021 - 23:22
        -1

        Card counting more or less doesn't work well these days as they use multiple decks and shuffle them through an automatic machine. You don't know how many decks they are using and/or it's pretty damn hard to keep track.

        • wiipantz on 22/11/2021 - 09:03

          You can ask how many decks are used even in auto shufflers. There is still plenty of manual shoe around just need to eek it out counting multi deck this way is not impossible by any stretch. The one2six's actually increase players odds marginally as theoretically all cards are back in play including more aces and 10's ect but eliminate card counting which is why I said 'most of those don't exist anymore' please read and comprehend before replying.

  • TheMindsetTraveller on 17/11/2021 - 08:41

    Back in the day, I used to spend 12-14hours per day at the casino :o Roulette was not my preferred game but I played it from time to time and learnt a huge deal. While it is easy to suggest it is a game of luck, there are different strategies in play and 'methods' to try and target specific numbers, blocks or groups of numbers. I can't remember winning much, more likely lost of roulette, but it was good to learn and the experiences carry me forward to today.

    • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 08:49

      I’ve tried them all but only play roulette now. Every gambler has their personal best chances game and should stick to it. It’s too easy to get sucked into a quick and lucky win doing something you are not experienced at.

  • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 08:52

    FWIW to everybody who thinks the casinos make their money from the minions who are on the main floor, think again. There are probably a couple of high rollers spending as much or more as everybody else in some private suite. The public just pay for the lights to be on.

    • wiipantz on 17/11/2021 - 09:02
      +7

      Having worked in multiple Casino's in all levels and roles this is only a half truth considering it wasn't unusual to sign off a million dollar take on a main floor on a Tuesday night not even in a major city of Australia. The real moneymaker is pokies but that's another argument entirely. Yes there is whales but they also cost in comps. staff, upkeep ect plus the casino has to risk big losses, however the peons such as yourself walking through the doors playing for crumbs are a nice license to print money. Keep your rubbish to yourself and I feel sorry for your family or any suckers that bite.

      • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 09:30

        I’m not fishing. Just generating some conversation. That’s what forums are for, right?

        • wiipantz on 17/11/2021 - 09:41
          +21

          Spreading falsehoods on some crusade to normalise your addiction with misnomers and at best ill informed anecdotal observation. Put your question in the form of a poll and get voted out to oblivion then? Or take it to 4Chan where you no doubt belong.

          • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 18:53
            -2

            @wiipantz: You really do have a chip on your shoulder. The main purpose of this post was to see the reaction to gambling in a casino compared to shares and crypto as discussed on this forum. I could have peddled an actual offer anywhere but it seems that when share trading and crypto trading are compared on here a hell of a lot of people have blinkers on. I hope you lay into them just as much. It brings out the lawyer genes in some people when they start on a reign of telling others what they think of what they say. I think we get your point of view pretty well - and respect IT.

            • Quantumcat on 18/11/2021 - 11:57
              +7

              @MontyMacaw: Gambling in a casino is completely different to shares and crypto. Gambling odds on a casino are fixed. Shares and crypto are not, in addition shares long term go up. Gambling in a casino you are guaranteed to lose long term.

              Please listen to people in this thread. It is really painful when something you've believed for a long time is challenged, and your logical brain understands you are wrong, but your emotional brain doesn't want to believe it given you have spent so long behaving as if it is true and if it is false then all that time was a waste. It is like people trying to come out of cults or conspiracy theories. It is painful but the sooner you get your emotional brain to accept it the happier you'll be long term. You'll have to accept it eventually and the sooner you do the less of your life you will have wasted.

              • valleyrain on 18/11/2021 - 15:27

                @Quantumcat:

                Shares and crypto are not, in addition shares long term go up.

                Not necessarily. Companies go bust or get mired in scandals and you can lose money. Past performance is not an indicator of future performance. Diversification is key.

                • Quantumcat on 18/11/2021 - 16:04

                  @valleyrain: I guess I should have said long term and over the whole market

              • JimB on 19/11/2021 - 05:06

                @Quantumcat: You talking about gambling or religion? Haha

            • dr on 19/11/2021 - 12:09
              +1

              @MontyMacaw: In both crypto and share investing you lose only when you close (i.e. sell) your positions at loss - in other words there is possibility that your holding may bounce back. With roulette or any other type of gambling/betting games your money is gone after the results are known - your position is closed, the money you lost in previous round is not yours anymore, it's gone, dead - not even Jesus could resurrect it and let you play in the next round

  • Archi on 17/11/2021 - 09:17
    +1

    my favourite numbers on roulette are.

    0,3,4,7,12,15,26,28,29,32

    i hate the double 00 roulette tables.

    • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 09:28
      +1

      Never play double zero tables they are the mafia ones from Las Vegas.

      • TEER3X on 18/11/2021 - 07:12
        +1

        Yeah but drinks are basically free in Vegas, $1 tip for some Johnny black, good deal even with the shit odds

    • wizzlesticks on 18/11/2021 - 16:03

      Don't go to Vegas then where they've introduced triple zero tables!

    • Nalar on 24/11/2021 - 04:00

      Wait for Triple Zero to roll out!

  • cuteseal on 17/11/2021 - 09:38
    +13

    I've read all the comments and OP won't share either his net results/strategy so I'm guessing OP:

    • Plays every day
    • Plays for a set period/set amount and then stops
    • Plays with amount OP is willing to lose

    So some days OP will win, some days OP will lose but over time net effect is a slight loss which OP is willing to chalk up to "entertainment".

    Sound about right?

    A similar story - I stumbled upon some youtube channels the other day about people buying unsearched paydirt. Literally bags of dirt from goldfields that someone else has dug up and is selling on ebay, so that they can pan and then extract the gold. In the one I watched, this guy paid $10,000 for a bag of dirt and then, calculated at the end that his extracted gold was worth about $9500 IF it was pure 24 karat gold, which it certainly was not. He was willing to lose money for "entertainment". Plus he was monetising also his youtube channel and ran a gold business on the side so he didn't really care.

    • NigelTufnel on 18/11/2021 - 13:10
      +3

      Yeah, this is what I'm thinking. Probably puts most of his bets on 2 number thirds at a time, so he's got just under 2/3 chance of winning 50% back, and 1/3 chance of losing 100%. This is probably the strategy that will keep you at the table the longest for the least amount of money - so maybe the best bang for buck if you're there for entertainment.
      My friends and I used to do this at the casino while having our cheap daiquiris after the pubs shut. $50 would last quite a while, and sometimes we'd end up on top…

      Still not going to win you money in the long term, but you get more little highs from your >50% chance of winning.

    • Aureus on 18/11/2021 - 21:12
      +4

      Nope. OP has a system to buy only the best bags of dirt, so he is able to always make a profit. Other people get greedy and buy all of the bags of dirt in one go and lose a lot of money, but not OP, he has a system that works.

  • weezlebub on 17/11/2021 - 09:43
    -2

    I'm curious about your strategy, i often thought roulette could be gamed, but in a simple way …

    bet 10$ on red, loose
    bet 20$ on red, loose
    bet 40$ on red, loose
    bet 80$ on red, win = 10$ profit :)

    red's gotta come up eventually, as long as you're able to scale up your bets and stay calm and consistent, but it's also risking 150$ to win 10$ and assuming your bankroll is large enough to keep going (when there's 20-30 rolls with no red) …

    you could use probability to look for a table that's already had 10 red's in a row, then bet on black

    you could look at the number ranges (1-18, 19-whatever, whatever - 40ish), less frequent wins, but greater return to make it worthwhile, i.e.
    10$ 1-18 loss
    20$ 1-18 loss
    40$ 1-18 loss
    80$ 1-18 loss
    160$ 1-18 loss
    320$ 1-18 win
    = 960$ win, 630$ spent

    • djkelly69 on 17/11/2021 - 09:57
      +9

      Might want to look up what a 'Martingale' system is and why it is a bad idea. In short, the reasons are table limits and needing an infinite bankroll. If it goes 20 times one colour in a row as you suggest, you are going to need to bet over $5m to try and make your $10 profit. By 30 you need over $5b.

    • lubos on 17/11/2021 - 10:42
      +11

      red's gotta come up eventually, as long as you're able to scale up your bets

      And this is why this strategy doesn't work. Because you can't scale up your bets infinitively. You will be eventually put into position where required bet will be larger than your bankroll. That's when you lose everything. It's mathematical certanity.

      If you are Bill Gates with $100,000,000,000 bankroll and betting $1, the chance of him blowing his bankroll in his lifetime playing martingale is slim (he will die sooner than losing 37 bets in a row).

      But if you have a lot of money like Bill Gates, it's better to invest it and collect 5% return on your equity doing absolutely nothing, than sitting in the casino 24/7 growing your bankroll by 0.0001% per year. And still having slim chance to lose it all.

    • pegaxs on 17/11/2021 - 10:57
      +14

      Lol @ martingale system.

      I have literally seen people betting over $5,000 to chase a $5 loss.

      As a roulette dealer, my record number of spins in a row for red/black was 18 consecutive reds and 14 consecutive for black.

      And you are wrong, red does not have to come up eventually. That is called the gamblers fallacy. Roulette spins are independent. The wheel never changes so the odds of red or black coming up is the same every single spin. In theory, you could spin a roulette wheel up and never hit a black number.

      So, your numbers are even more bunk than OP's "not a system" system.

      • weezlebub on 17/11/2021 - 11:29
        +4

        starting at 10$, that means
        18 spins = $1,310,720.00 for red
        14 spins = $81,920.00 for black

        i can't afford red, so i'll have to base it on black, thanks for the insight :)

        • pegaxs on 17/11/2021 - 12:23
          +2

          So, you are throwing down almost $82,000 to chase a $10 bet?? Seems legit.

          Only problem is that table limits kill that bet before you even get it out if your pocket. You cannot bet $82,000 on red or black on a $10 table.

    • Qazxswec on 17/11/2021 - 11:54
      -1

      i just realised you wrote this strategy, i wrote it too, i have always thought this, its simple math, as long as you can cover the next bet and go back to the start

    • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 18:58

      The comments about the Martingale system are exactly right. Please don’t try this as a strategy the way you describe it. Even if you have some success it will eventually encourage you to bet bigger and bigger amounts over the times you play and will only end in tears.

    • Pelicannn on 17/11/2021 - 22:33
      +8

      use probability to look for a table that's already had 10 red's in a row.

      This is so completely wrong to the mathematics of probability.

      If you flip a coin and get 10 heads in a row, the probability of that occuring is 0.5^10. or ~0.1%. This leads uneducated people to assume, that given 10 heads is so unlikely, that there is a higher chance to get a tail on the next throw. Here's the real truth:

      Getting 9 heads and 1 tail in a row, is just as rare as getting 10 heads in a row.
      There is ~0.1% chance of getting a heads, then a tails, then a heads etc… for 10 tosses.
      Getting any set combination, whether it is 5 heads and 5 tails, 4/6, 3/7, H/T/H/T/T/H/H/T/H/T and guessing those ten outcomes in a row is all ~0.1% chance

      You are basing it on the previous 9 tosses combined which are irrelevant to the outcome of the next throw. After 9 tosses of whatever, the odds of the next and only next toss being a heads or a tails (and for arguments sake, red or black) is 50%.

    • liongalahad on 20/11/2021 - 14:34

      there's a martingale strategy and it doesn't work unless you have pretty much infinite cash
      you can try it here: https://www.bettingsimulation.com/

  • ihbh on 17/11/2021 - 09:45
    +3

    Do you know who Blaise Pascal is?

    Do you have a fraction of his skills?

    No, no? Google him, learn probability and quit.

  • MS Paint on 17/11/2021 - 09:50
    +6

    I Am A Roulette Aficionado

    noun
    a person who is very knowledgeable and enthusiastic about an activity, subject, or pastime.
    'a crossword aficionado'
    synonyms: connoisseur, expert, authority, specialist, pundit, one of the cognoscenti, cognoscente, devotee, appreciator, fan, fanatic, savant, enthusiast, lover, addict, buff, freak, nut, fiend, maniac, a great one for

    Thanks to jv for letting me borrow his bolding tool

    • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 19:00
      -1

      There’s always somebody that quotes a dictionary. Or draws a chart.

      • MS Paint on 17/11/2021 - 20:04
        +1

        Dictionary not a reliable source?

        • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 20:11

          Would you call a wine aficionado an addict?

          It just seems a weak way to make an argument. I look up words when I want to know the possible meaning and put it into context just like anybody else but it may be just me but when people start throwing dictionary meanings to try and prove a point it can come off as being a bit vacuous.

          vacuous
          adjective
          1. having or showing a lack of thought or intelligence; mindless.
          "a vacuous smile"
          2. ARCHAIC
          empty

          😜😜😜

          • Quantumcat on 18/11/2021 - 12:00
            +2

            @MontyMacaw: Someone who spends as long drinking as you do gambling is an alcohol addict.

            If you just gambled every once in a while for fun with friends, that's just entertainment and you're probably not addicted.

            If you spend hours every day doing it on your own. You're addicted. People knowledgeable about wine, or sommeliers, don't spend hours a day drinking alone. The sooner you realise you are an addict the sooner you can seek help.

            • MontyMacaw on 23/11/2021 - 00:17
              -2

              @Quantumcat: Like any person that enjoys their particular vice I would say that I can go without playing anytime I choose but I choose not to unless I have other engagements. I don’t need to arbitrarily stop doing something just to prove something to someone who demands it of me. If I went back to it they would only say I failed. But I would be doing what I chose to do. Addicts in the extreme need to fuel the cravings continuously. If they stop suddenly they need to chemically detox. Gambling needs no detox as it is not a substance that the chemistry of the body gets addicted to. It is theorised that the brain gets addicted to it but that is more a psychological question which is supported by theory and not actual scientific proof of dependency (like substances) on the activity to maintain a satisfactory feeling of well being. Most compulsive gamblers experience highs and lows just like the substance addicted but that is only what they look like. The chemistry of their body is not affected in the same way. Their behaviour and reactions to bad choices can make them mentally I’ll or turn to substances for comfort. Having said that many people are led to believe they have a gambling addiction because of some list of conditions so called experts have laid down. There is no physical evidence that everybody in that group is addicted.

      • cashless on 18/11/2021 - 16:22

        "Somebody always draws a chart"
        Or draws an MS Paint diagram

  • godofpizza on 17/11/2021 - 10:47
    +3

    can we checkin on you a about 6 months to see how your system is going?

    • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 20:44
      -1

      It’s not a system to me. It’s more of a philosophy and sport. But if system is the word you like then go ahead. But please keep your system of your morning ablutions to yourself 😜

  • bitesized on 17/11/2021 - 11:16

    Seems to me OP is more of a hobby-ist who has found Roulette works for him in a financially sustainable way. He's mentioned golf a couple of times - which is spending money to enjoy an activity. If you look at it that way then it does make sense.

    Essentially, to anyone who's interested in learning Roulette as a long-term hobby, with the occasional potential financial "win" - OP is your guy!

    • Quantumcat on 17/11/2021 - 11:34
      +8

      Golf is something you can be good at though. You have no control in roulette, you can't influence the spin or the table. It is more like watching someone else who is blindfolded take a swing and betting how close it will land to the hole

      • MS Paint on 17/11/2021 - 13:08
        +2

        Golf is something you can be good at though

        My golf instructor would like a word with you 😀

      • MontyMacaw on 18/11/2021 - 17:18
        -1

        Ok let’s get something straight. You can control the most import factor in roulette - yourself. So all this talk of betting huge amounts ad infinitum is not helpful to somebody who enjoys the experience which should be the only reason you play roulette or any other form of gambling. If it’s not enjoyable don’t do it. Self control in all things is key.

        • Quantumcat on 18/11/2021 - 19:12

          Why would someone pay to be coached if you don't have a way to produce a long term gain? You can control yourself but your control is limited to taking bets on events where the odds guarantee you'll lose over time.

          If it is purely for entertainment value and you're accepting you'll lose money then there's nothing to be gained from being coached, and surely it is more fun deciding where to put your chips yourself rather than be told.

  • brendanm on 17/11/2021 - 11:17
    +4

    Roulette has fixed odds, you cannot game it, unless cheating somehow.

  • Archi on 17/11/2021 - 11:24

    odds wise.. what do you think would be the fairest game to play in the casino..

    they use to have that big wheel one…that all the ladies and drunk dudes play which was the easiest

    was waiting for friend and sat down at a Sic Bo table and won $300.. that was just lucky…

    • pegaxs on 17/11/2021 - 11:53
      +1

      Odds wise, depends, but generally Craps has some of the lowest odds in the casino. Single zero roulette is fairly low. Baccarat is low if it is traditional and not a dealer takes half on 6 type variations. Pai Gow as well, but the caveat there is learning curve.

      Some of the worst odds are side games such as big wheel, casino war, Carribbean Stud poker. These games are designed at appeal to walk ups with no experience and are deft at parting drunkards from what little cash they have on the way out the door.

      • Crow K on 17/11/2021 - 12:59
        +1

        I think two-up (if offered) is one of the fairer games.

        My (probably wrong) understanding of craps is that the game is 'fair' in that you can bet with or against the house (though there's a social penalty in doing so, you're betting "I bet all you chumps are going to lose").

    • Vote for Pedro on 18/11/2021 - 19:11
      -1

      Craps

  • Hithere on 17/11/2021 - 11:31
    +1

    So my big question is would anybody pay to be coached

    My reply to your question OP is "WHY would anybody pay to be coached"?

    • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 19:02

      That’s a question.

  • Qazxswec on 17/11/2021 - 11:40
    -1

    I will tell everybody his strategy, it is simple mathematics, as long as you have enough money to cover the next bet you cant mathematically lose, you pick a colour, only bet that colour, and for a simple maths example you will start at a $1 bet, so far you have invested a dollar but will win back a dollar, if you lose you double your bet to $2, so far you have invested $3 (1+2) but will win back $4(you've won $1 overall), if you lose you double again to $4, so far you have invested $7(1+2+4) but will win back $8(youve won $1 overall), the math just keeps working, the trick is and the hard part(self control, must follow system)is that as soon as you win you must go back to the original $1, and repeat the process, it will probably take you an hour or so to get $20-$25 bucks, but if your starting number was $1000, then you would be making $20000-$25000 an hour, they would probably kick you out though for beating the system, i dont know, just something i thought of many years ago as a young gambler

    • pegaxs on 17/11/2021 - 12:16
      +6

      Martingale system… And what happens after you have lost 10 in a row and have doubled up each time?

      1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512… After the 10th loss, you are putting down over $1000 to win back $1.

      InB4: tHe CoLoUr hAs tO cHaNgE eVeNtUaLLy…

      they would probably kick you out though for beating the system

      You know why they dont kick you out? Because they know it doesn't work and that you can't beat the system.

      • Qazxswec on 17/11/2021 - 12:35

        it does hypothetically work, like i said you need to have enough to "always" cover the next bet, so yes, you would want much more money on you than $1000, i have done it and i did win(only $20 and it took an hour), but i was more stating a mathematical principle of numbers rather than thinking this is actually a good strategy, and yes, i agree, they would definitely kick you out

        • wiipantz on 17/11/2021 - 12:41
          +3

          This is why there is table limits, no way would they kick out a sure fire 'paying' customer. In fact they welcome it, lol.

        • Quantumcat on 17/11/2021 - 13:15
          +2

          There are table limits, and you only have a certain amount of capital. It's not a sure fire way to win, you could easily get multiple of the wrong colour in a row and lose way more money than you'd won so far.

      • MontyMacaw on 18/11/2021 - 16:53

        FYI Ben Affleck was once banned from a casino because of his roulette strategy.

        • Quantumcat on 18/11/2021 - 19:12

          Source?

          • Aureus on 18/11/2021 - 21:20
            +1

            @Quantumcat: He was banned for counting cards in blackjack.

            Counting cards is actually pretty easy and anyone can learn, unfortunately casinos are very aware of card counting. Expect the dealer will either shuffle to ruin your count or ban you.

            • Quantumcat on 18/11/2021 - 21:46
              +3

              @Aureus: So it had nothing to do with roulette

            • bmerigan on 18/11/2021 - 22:56
              +1

              @Aureus: Card counting only marginally improves your odds, and you have to play for a long time. Not really something casinos have to be too worried about.

        • UFO on 18/11/2021 - 21:14

          Did his mathematics genius buddy also solve maths problems secretly at night too?
          Come on man.

    • Antikythera on 18/11/2021 - 18:48
      -3

      a better system is to:
      bet $10 red.
      if you lose bet $20 on black.
      if you lose again bet $40 on red.
      and so on.

      • UFO on 18/11/2021 - 21:15
        +2

        and what makes you think that is "better"?

        You've less than 50% chance of hitting the right colour, due to the greens.
        It doesn't matter which colour you pick, you're always at a disadvantage because it makes no difference what the previous colour was.

        • Antikythera on 18/11/2021 - 22:12

          it makes no difference

          exactly. but in my version you don't get people laughing at you and saying behind your back "look at the (profanity) over there playing the Martingale system"

  • deme on 17/11/2021 - 11:42
    +11

    I play Roulette 7 days a week.
    https://www.gamblinghelponline.org.au/ 1800 858 858

    OP you are full of shit, if you had a method you'd be using it not selling it.
    I'd take rektrading's crypto advice over yours.

  • Drpepper666 on 17/11/2021 - 12:23
    +7

    Seek help OP

  • SnowDragon on 17/11/2021 - 12:37
    +4

    So you have a full time job and choose to play roulette 7 days a week with a "small bankroll" and come out slightly positive?

    May as well get yourself another job - probably pays more per hour.

    • brendanm on 17/11/2021 - 17:50
      +3

      Probably be more entertaining than watching the wheel spin as well.

  • El cheepo on 17/11/2021 - 18:34
    +1

    Wanted:
    Sex panther system….
    A system to help win 60% of the time, all the time.

    • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 20:14
      +1

      Simple - be a sugar daddy, but you will need to splash around a lot of money. Might I suggest taking your dates out to your local casino? This may conflict with your OzBargain identity however.

  • outlander on 17/11/2021 - 20:53
    -2

    There's a routlette strategy called cover-the-field or the 666 gamble. You essentially split your bet equally between all numbers except for two of them. Because the chances of hitting either two numbers is very low, you are almost always guaranteed to win. But because your bet is spread out across so many numbers, the winnings are low.
    Roulette has 36 slots plus the green one, so you have a 2/37 chance of losing, but when you win, you win 36 of what you bet. Its a much smaller win, but it's guaranteed (almost).

    Say you started with 100k. You could bet $1000 on 35 of the numbers, for a total bet of $35K. The wheel spins, the ball lands on your number as it is biased to do, and you collect $36K, enough to cover the original bet plus an extra grand. Easy money, until the unthinkable happens, and you lose it all.

    If you have a large enough bankroll, and you're patient, it can almost seem like you've beaten the system. In a way it's a good allegory for business's accelerating growth in a capitalist system, at the price of increasing the risk of catastrophic collapse. As long as you get out before it all goes.. you come out looking like a genius.

    • pegaxs on 17/11/2021 - 22:08
      +7

      This is a really bad system (although not as bad as martingale)

      You are outlaying 35 to get 1. Simple maths says that you only have to land one bad number and that puts you 35 steps behind, or that you would need to win 35 times in a row to cover one loss. 2 losses would put you back 70 spins.

      Each loss would cost you about 1 hours worth of game time just to get back to even. So, if in the first hour of play you lost 2 bets, it would take you 2 more hours of game play to get back to even.

      There is another system I saw played that was similar to this, but from memory, it only used 8 chips, so any loss was mitigated to 8 spins behind and covered all but 3 numbers on the layout, but it worked on 8 out, 9 returned at best or money back at worst if your numbers hit.

      • outlander on 17/11/2021 - 23:03
        +1

        They're all bad systems, whether it's playing 35 or 8 the odds don't change. The only difference in them is how long it takes for the charade to be revealed.

      • Trance N Dance on 28/11/2021 - 02:52

        Are you talking about the Romanovsky system? Covers 34/36 numbers using 8 chips. 3 on each dozen and one one two corners in the dozen that hasn't been bet on (but the corners don't overlap).

    • djkelly69 on 18/11/2021 - 08:53
      +2

      How is that a strategy? You are getting paid 36:1 on a 37:1 probability bet (assuming it is not a double zero wheel and a number pays 36:1 - some only pay 35:1), so you are going to lose in the long run.

  • MontyMacaw on 17/11/2021 - 21:57
    -1

    I don’t think that’s a strategy. It’s just a system that is rigid and requires no mental agility other than to put all the bets in the right place every time. As the variables are fixed so the most likely result - you will lose over time. It would most likely be successful less than it won’t be. The risk then is to want to recover your losses which creates the chaser syndrome. Chasers lose and lose big. Way bigger than their wishful expectations of winning in the first place. In other words it’s like grating cheese. It takes awhile to get though a block but sooner or later you run out. No offence intended unlike many of the posts today.

    • Poor Ass on 18/11/2021 - 08:53

      How much do you usually bring to play?

      • MontyMacaw on 18/11/2021 - 09:07

        $300

        • Poor Ass on 18/11/2021 - 10:37

          how much roughly would you want to be paid to coach?

          • MontyMacaw on 18/11/2021 - 16:55

            @Poor Ass: I have no idea or if I want to do it. It is just an idea and I thought it would provoke a lively discussion. I won THAT bet.

        • R4 on 18/11/2021 - 13:51

          How much do you, on average, walk out with?

          • MontyMacaw on 18/11/2021 - 17:20

            @R4: Up to double what I walk in with or less than I walked in with.

        • cashless on 18/11/2021 - 16:25
          +2

          Wow, so OP can afford to lose $2100 per week (or $109,200 per annum)
          Must be one of those high rolling OzBargainers

          • MontyMacaw on 18/11/2021 - 16:57

            @cashless: Well I could for quite awhile but I would never do that. I would stop for a period if my allocation of funds were to be exhausted. I budget everything in my life right down to cat food. I’m a spreadsheet nut.

            • djkelly69 on 19/11/2021 - 16:30
              +2

              @MontyMacaw:

              I’m a spreadsheet nut

              Can you share your roulette spreadsheet so we can review your results?

            • cinnamink on 20/11/2021 - 12:10

              @MontyMacaw: Maybe you can teach people your budgeting skill.

        • brendanm on 19/11/2021 - 19:57

          How much do you win?

          • pegaxs on 19/11/2021 - 21:25
            +1

            @brendanm: Apparently he was in the hole to the tune of millions, now it’s only in the hundreds of thousands…

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