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Patriot Viper Steel Series 16GB (2x8GB) 4000MHz $123.49, 4133MHz $128.24, 4400MHz $132.99 Delivered @ Patriot Memory Amazon AU

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Posting this for people that enjoy the painful task of memory tuning for an extra 100 points in 3dmark

These kits are Samsung B Die single rank and super cheap. For best performance, it's best to buy 2 kits

4000MHz
4133MHz
4400MHz

The Viper Blackout series is also B die with similar pricing but looser timings so I asumme that they are not as good

Have fun

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  • abuseyourdna on 20/02/2021 - 20:55

    Micron e die Crucial memory can also easily go up to 4500mhz c17

    • ln28909 on 20/02/2021 - 20:57
      +3

      Well if you have AMD, it is not really relevant to go above 3800mhz

      this kit can probably go 3800 c14

  • mrtee on 20/02/2021 - 21:00

    If I have 2*8gb 3200mhz ram (xpg) can I add this on top to get 32gb?

    • ln28909 on 20/02/2021 - 21:07
      +5

      you're not really going to get any benefit of the B die, since they'll run at the lower speed

    • azza10 on 21/02/2021 - 11:37
      +1

      I would not mix memory if you can avoid it.

  • chyawala on 20/02/2021 - 21:23
    +1

    I know someone who got this, but couldn't successfully OC due to inexperience. RAM defaults to 2133hz now so its slower than the old kit that was 3200mhz. Any suggestions? Is XMP profile possible, or returning it?

    • ln28909 on 20/02/2021 - 21:33
      +1

      for intel, xmp is fine

      for amd, xmp probably won't run as fast as the 3200mhz ram

      • illz on 21/02/2021 - 08:46
        +1

        It's known as DOCP for AMD

        • integral on 21/02/2021 - 10:21
          +1

          That's what Asus used to call it but I think they call it XMP now.

          • illz on 21/02/2021 - 12:17

            @integral: You're right. Asus didn't want to pay Intel royalties for XMP.

          • nope on 21/02/2021 - 15:23
            +2

            @integral: it's still called docp on my recently released (june 2020) asus mobo

            • illz on 21/02/2021 - 19:24

              @nope: Same. It'll continue to be docp

    • [Deactivated] on 20/02/2021 - 21:42
      +2

      I have the Patriot Viper blackout 4400mhz4x8GB (Two 16gb Kits) on my 10980xe and X299 Dark motherboard, the memory refuses to boot at anything above 4000mhz, which is fine because it is running in quad channel. With memory speeds above 4000 you need to win the silicon lottery with your cpu memory controller and be using a motherboard that supports it.

      As for the memory XMP profile, most bioses will let you set XMP timings then manually lower the frequency down, he could do this until he finds a frequency it boots at.

    • nomoneynoproblems on 20/02/2021 - 22:29
      +1

      Up the voltage imo.

    • R3AP on 20/02/2021 - 22:55
      +1

      If you have a Ryzen just follow a guide using the Ryzen DRAM calculator.

    • illz on 21/02/2021 - 08:45

      Same issue with 3600Mhz Trident Z Neo on a asus tuf x570.

      Mine won't post after enabling DOCP and manually setting to 3600Mhz, had to clear Cmos. Currently working on a solution.
      Lots of posts online about it.

      Moving to slots A2 B2(closest to CPU) on your DIMM slots seems to resolve the issue for most. AMD requires this apparently. Didn't work for me.

      • illz on 21/02/2021 - 10:04
        +2

        Finally found the solution, hope this helps someone else..

        On my Asus TUF x570 Pro, from bios:

        Ai Tweaker
        Ai Overclock Tuner: D.O.C.P.

        Advanced:

        AMD Overclocking
        Accept

        DDR and Infinity Fabric Frequency/Timings

        DDR Frequency and Timings

        DRAM Timing Configuration

        Overclock: Enabled

        Memory Clock Speed : 1800MHz

        Advanced:

        AMD Overclocking
        Accept

        DDR and Infinity Fabric Frequency/Timings

        Infinity Fabric Frequency and Dividers

        Infinity Fabric Frequency and Dividers: 1800Mhz

        Save and exit.

    • menvert on 21/02/2021 - 11:26

      I am running the 4400 at 3200 C14 on AMD, and that's on X370, it wasn't very hard to just set the DOCP then change to C14, but then I also tweaked more after that, 4 sticks even.

    • azza10 on 21/02/2021 - 11:39

      I have this kit, msi boards have a memory try it thing. I got mine booting with 1.45v@ 3600cl14 unsure on other timings though, that's handled by the board for me.

  • ATangk on 20/02/2021 - 22:27

    Pretty sure the 4000 is not b die.

    • ln28909 on 20/02/2021 - 22:30
      +4

      Patriot above 3833mhz are all b die

      • ATangk on 20/02/2021 - 22:31

        I thought it was only above 4133 being b die.

        E: nvm you’re right.

  • noise36 on 20/02/2021 - 22:29

    I wonder how well these would go down clocked to 3800 , C16 would be amazing with 1:1 IF.

    • chimmez on 20/02/2021 - 22:54
      +2

      Can most likely get to C14 with the 4400 kit running at 3800. People on forums have mentioned being able to put this down the C12, but that wouldn't likely be possible with four sticks - and you want to get four sticks as these are single-rank.

    • TRANCE on 20/02/2021 - 22:55
      +4

      They do c16 at 3800hz, I have 4x8gb of the 4400mhz at 3800 c16-15-14-14-30, trfc284 1.5v. Stable tested with multiple instances of HCI. Some people claim they do c14, but not sure if they have done proper testing. I have tested 6 kits of these and all will boot at c14, and play cyberpunk with no issues, even pass techpowerup memtest, only HCI will reveal memory errors at c14 and c15 so I use c16 for full stability.

      • noise36 on 21/02/2021 - 00:02

        I grabbed two sets, hopefully can run 1900 FCLK with 4x 8GB like I currently am with a 2x8GB 3800 C18 set.

      • noise36 on 24/02/2021 - 00:24

        Can get 2x sticks to boot at 3800 c16 1900 no problems but 4x stick I cant seem to get to work doing anything.

        • TRANCE on 25/02/2021 - 18:18

          Have you got ryzen dram calculator? Some of the timings need to be adjusted for 4 sticks versus 2, also need to adjust the termination settings for 4 sticks. Different motherboards need slightly different settings and that requires some trial and error, it took me a while to get 4 sticks working as well, two sticks is much simpler. I have a MSI X570 Unify, if you have an MSI I could probably help you out, otherwise hit up a forum where hopefully someone with the same motherboard and some b die can recommend the ideal terminations settings, but ryzen dram calculator settings are a great starting point and usually works with minimal adjustments.

          • noise36 on 25/02/2021 - 21:27

            @TRANCE: I have an MSI B550 Tomahawk and a 3700X, have never been able to get Ryzen DRAM Calculator settings to work, probably user error, not finding all the settings in bios or something.

            To get these two sticks working all I did was manually set the primary timing, voltage, FCLK and everything else auto. Passed a short TM5 memtest run and no crashes gaming or desktop.

            MY last set of ram did the same thing to get 4000Mhz c18 ram to run at 3800mhz c18 for 1:1 IF

            Think I will just return the other set for a refund as I think 3800MHZ c16 on 4 sticks is a dream that wont be realised.

            EDIT: just realised you said what you are running above, hmm makes me wonder if my CPU and mobo could handle same settings, are you able to link to your full settings?

  • mizx on 20/02/2021 - 22:57

    Only recommend getting this if you have either the Ryzen 3000 or 5000 series CPU.

    • TRANCE on 20/02/2021 - 23:12

      Why? These are also great on intel running at 4400mhz xmp.

      • mizx on 20/02/2021 - 23:24

        Oh yeah and intel of course!

        • ThatsCheap on 21/02/2021 - 03:58
          +5

          So basically you recommend this for almost every CPU in the market right now lol :P

          • [Deactivated] on 21/02/2021 - 10:09

            @ThatsCheap: Ryzen 2000 (and maybe some of the older Intel CPUs too idk?) don't have memory controllers good enough to utilise these fully. You also need a decent motherboard.

            Definitely a big waste for locked intel platforms that don't allow memory overclocking

          • timtam-slam on 21/02/2021 - 12:35

            @ThatsCheap: It's no good for Arduino.

  • dfg555 on 20/02/2021 - 23:54

    i feel so bad for those that have crappy IMC on their Ryzen chips that can't get past 1800MHz FCLK.

  • bri11iant-y on 21/02/2021 - 00:55

    Thanks OP!
    Ordered 2 4400 kits. Hopefully 5900x and 3080 will be in stock soon.

    • lostn on 21/02/2021 - 21:48

      Oof. Good luck.

  • LeviathanBaphomet on 21/02/2021 - 02:24
    +3

    I got the 4400Mhz kit and have it running 3800CL14 stable, seems like pretty high binned b-die for sure
    https://imgur.com/vdJclex specific timings

    • ThatsCheap on 21/02/2021 - 03:07

      That is a brilliant result! Wow

    • noise36 on 21/02/2021 - 08:51

      Wowee

  • freemoneyhunter on 21/02/2021 - 06:35
    -2

    https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/memory/ddr4/87196-kd48gu…

    Cheapest memory is better for people with some Intel CPUs which don't allow memory above 2600mhz.

    • Lukian on 29/03/2021 - 10:47

      That's not a good deal given the recent eBay sale(s).

  • CheapGit on 21/02/2021 - 08:49

    Not sure these can be classed as fast with no RGB, is like having a car with no go faster stripe ;-)

  • aelix on 21/02/2021 - 09:38

    Great find, this is incredibly cheap for high spec RAM. I bought the last 4400 kit just now, will sell my Ballistix 3200 E-die and only pay $20-30 for the upgrade.

  • gfunk zero on 21/02/2021 - 10:06

    upvoted for funny description, muh e-peen!

  • timtam-slam on 21/02/2021 - 11:04

    I've got an i7 10700FK with an MSI z490 Tomahawk. The CPU lists the RAM limit as DDR4-2933 whereas the mobo will take up to 5000hz(OC). Will I be wasting my money on higher speed RAM?

    • azza10 on 21/02/2021 - 11:42
      +1

      No, you can run this ram.

  • Could Be Better on 21/02/2021 - 11:39

    Does faster RAM make a big difference? I ordered the same model with 3600mhz (description: tested at 18-20-20-40) and not sure if the $20 extra is worth it for something that can apparently run c14 at 3600.

    • ln28909 on 21/02/2021 - 11:40

      not for gaming at 1440p and above

      • Could Be Better on 21/02/2021 - 11:43

        Thanks, I'll be gaming at 1440p and 2160p so that's great to know for my tight bum.

        • mrtee on 21/02/2021 - 12:01

          What would be good for what you're after. Bcoz I'm in the same boat

          • ln28909 on 21/02/2021 - 12:13

            @mrtee: Just a basic kit of 3200c16 is good enough

    • BROKENKEYBOARD on 21/02/2021 - 12:22

      If you're set on playing games competitively with low settings where the CPU is the bottleneck not the GPU then yes fast RAM can become important. For normal usage however you'll be hard pressed to notice a difference.

  • 4ustralian on 21/02/2021 - 12:28

    Thanks all for the additional opinions. I personally think make priority to mobo and cpu 1st then go to ram, as they are cohesive but ram and other component are coupling otherwise.

  • timtam-slam on 21/02/2021 - 12:40

    There's one unit of 4000Mhz left. Almost sold out.

  • noise36 on 24/02/2021 - 00:30

    Can anyone get 4x sticks doing anything good? Can get two 3800 c16 at 1900 without even trying but 4 sticks doesn't want to boot.

    • ln28909 on 24/02/2021 - 08:49

      You need to reset to default before putting 4 sticks in

      • noise36 on 24/02/2021 - 10:13

        Yeah 4 sticks will boot at default mobo speeds which is super slow but try to set to 3800 C16 and no go even though that will work with 2 sticks fine.

        • ln28909 on 24/02/2021 - 10:34

          Not all cpu can do 4 sticks at 1900flck, it's all about tweaking

  • Silentas on 24/02/2021 - 22:53
    +1

    4400MHz Back in stock.

  • noise36 on 13/03/2021 - 20:03

    This is even cheaper now! great ram, running 4 sticks at 3800 c16

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