Been monitoring this for a while. This is the lowest price I have seen in recent weeks. $97.14 is a good price, but not too sure how long this price would last, the price seems to change every hour or so. I took the plunge and bought a pair, thought someone else might also want to do the same.
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Apparently there is a new firmware to address this. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/575142#comment-9945308
I guess I will find out when I get mine.
Thankyou in advance for letting us know the outcome when you get a chance to test :)
I followed the instructions based on this https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/9yz0w6y3
Have the updated firmware on my mw6, can't see anything referring to TKIP
Got it today. Installed the 2 nodes. Got it up and running rather quickly. I have it running in bridge mode. I used the Wifi Analyzer app on my phone, all wifi nodes are reporting WPA2. My wifi latency seems to have improved compared to using the wifi from the main modem router so I am pretty pleased.
Thanks for the info. From what I understand (via the WP forum) the best case scenario with the firmware update is mixed WPA/WPA2 AES. WPA isn't particularly secure (in comparison to WPA2).
If it does support only WPA2 AES can you please confirm?
Latest firmware removed TKIP completely. The broadcast signal does still show WPA2/WPA (AES) however prior to the firmware upgrade it showed WPA2/WPA (AES/TKIP).
I thought the mw6 got fixed with an update?
Also, I wouldn't say "easily hacked". I have never tried it myself, but I believe the vulnerability is that an attacker can capture enough data from your wifi traffic that they can then try to brute force crack your wifi password using a dictionary attack on the captured data. If you have a "strong" wifi password instead of a dictionary word or "password" as your wifi password, I think you should be ok.
You've just got to weigh up the likelihood here, the area you live in and any sort of information you might be housing (much riskier if you are wfh for example).
Ashamedly I used to crack into networks when I was younger (back when data limits were severe) employing similar methods with tackling WEP, it took anywhere up to 20mins then and it can only be faster now. With this vulnerability being known, if people want to get in, they will get in.
If the firmware actually does fix it on the MW6's, that's great news for current owners or prospective buyers. But would wait for confirmation first.
I think WEP cracking takes seconds now - not that anyone still uses WEP.
would it be fair to say regardless of which encryption is used, if you combine a user who configures their network improperly (n00b level) and a pro hacker who is motivated and equipped to get what they want, no solution will be guaranteed to work?
@inamberclad: 100%
But ensuring you don't have vulnerabilities like this will at least deter the less skilled opportunistic types
Hacking TKIP is as simple as pushing one button and waiting 5 seconds. Anyone can download the tool and is dead simple to use.
Having a 200 Character password with symbols ain't gonna do anything trust me.
Even if Tenda "patches" their firmware, there's going to still be a backdoor to allow the CCP to monitor its citizens data and devices.
Don't tell everyone my password!!!!!
This article is from 2015 cracks WPA-TKIP within an hour by targeting the encryption protocol itself… the length of password is irrelevant.
https://www.rc4nomore.com/vanhoef-usenix2015.pdf
Safe to assume that with 5 years of hardware improvements since the publication, it's now significantly less than an hour.
We're well and truly into security by obscurity being the sole level of effective security that you can rely on for WPA-TKIP.
I'd argue that obscurity is pretty minimal.
If your WiFi can be accessed from the street, you're wide open to a drive by attack.
If your WiFi can be accessed by a neighbor, they can easily leech off your connection to save themselves paying for their own. And can quite happily pirate to their heart's content at your legal risk.
All to save yourself $100 maybe versus the competition that offer actual modern day product.
Are there any other bang for buck Mesh WiFi systems? Otherwise I'm leaning towards getting my folks the TP-Link Deco.
Same question! Looking to get the folks a mesh setup but need a minimum of 3 for their largish house. If anyone has any experience or recommendations please let me know.
You can get the 3 pack. I use this at my place and haven't had any issues.
Otherwise I also use the TP deco at another site, they work well too and find the app having better features than the tenda one.
I bought the Netgear Orbis soon after COVID hit, as we were all working and schooling from home.
Positives:
* throughput is great, iperf shows about 250Mbit/s pretty much throughout the house
Negatives
* whenever the Internet goes down, the Orbis go down too. It's like they might be regularly phoning home and if they can't ping, they bring down the WiFi link. I posted about this on Netgear forums, but nobody else seems to have this problem
* they take a while to boot up and connect, like minutes.
Overall I'm happy enough, but I'd like to sort out the issue with them going down when the Internet goes down. I need to do more diagnostics before seeking more help, though
i had the tenda mw6 and moved to tplink m9. definitely more expensive (m9 is around $120 per unit), coverage and speed i feel are roughtly the same. full brick with concrete slab. i stream but don't game.
the router used/use strong passwords and wpa2, fast roam turned on, maybe that's why we never saw those "weak security" messages?
Price seems to have dropped to $96.82.
Increased to $99.70 now.
I have both the MW6 and MW3 (2 of each) and can confirm that the latest firmwares remove TKIP on both models. These are great devices and nothing comes close as far as value for money. I run 1 MW6 on my gateway and the other near my NAS to provide gigabit ethernet. The 2 MW3's are strategically placed around the house. This configuration removes the 100Mbit bottleneck at the gateway and allows for much faster LAN performance.
Shows as $104 for me
so if i buy two packs of these, i can use them all in a mesh configuration? from what i can gather, each device is the same, so there is no primary and satellite defined by the hardware.
You do need to set one as primary and the rest are additional nodes
yes, nbn is going into one of them, but physically is each device exactly the same?
Yes each device is the same
No WPA2 AES, only mixed mode. Easily hacked, Tenda has stated it won't fix it, save your money.