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Apple Mac Mini M1 - 8GB/256GB - $999 (RRP $1099) @ Umart (-5% OW Price Beat = $949.05)

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Apple Mac Mini M1 - 8GB/256GB - $999 (RRP $1099) @ Umart (-5% OW Price Beat = $949.05)
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For anyone that's been thinking about getting the base Mac Mini M1 that's just been released.

JB Hifi had a cheaper ($10) discounted price over the weekend, but you couldn't price beat it as OW dropped their price to match. They haven't yet price dropped for this retailer and they will price beat it. Stock currently available in NSW.

Umart: $999 - 5% Officeworks price beat = $949.05 delivered/collect.

I think this price beat price may be the lowest I've seen for this model (roughly 15% off Apple store) and Mac Mini's aren't eligible for Unidays offer.

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  • dr_ rusko on 11/01/2021 - 14:50

    how much is shipping? - wont let me calculate unless i login

    • aik on 11/01/2021 - 14:52

      13$ to ACT/2600, 14$ to Perth/6000

    • scrimshaw on 11/01/2021 - 14:53
      +3

      $10.00 NSW

      Also important to note that the new M1 chips equipped SKU's don't have SODIMM slots, choose carefully because there's no memory upgrades down the line.

      • dr_ rusko on 11/01/2021 - 15:04
        +7

        i know - apple have horrible marketing techniques - they know we really want 16g ram - but they make it a BTO that never goes on sale!

        • Caped Baldy on 11/01/2021 - 15:05
          +1

          and charging through the nose

          • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2021 - 15:30
            +29

            @Caped Baldy: I thought they were going wireless charging? Through the nose seems like a step in the wrong direction to me.

          • Member 0230 on 11/01/2021 - 15:39
            +9

            @ialam99: You obviously didn't buy an M1 model, which has everything (RAM included) integrated into a SOC.

            The M1 uses 4266 MT/s LPDDR4X SDRAM[9] in a unified memory configuration shared by all the components of the processor. The SoC and RAM chips are mounted together in a system-in-a-package design. 8 GB and 16 GB configurations are available.

            • ialam99 on 11/01/2021 - 17:21
              -5

              @Member 0230: Didnt realised they soldered ram now. My one is around 8 years old and came with 4gb of ram but was upgradable. HUGE improvement in performance once i upgraded to 16gb. Highly recommended to upgrade ram if there is an option.

              • Member 0230 on 11/01/2021 - 17:34

                @ialam99: Agreed. But where possible I'd upgrade from a spinning drive to an SSD first as typically the highest bang-for-buck upgrade.

                • mongos on 11/01/2021 - 19:07

                  @Member 0230: Done both on my 2012 Mac mini. Still using it as a daily work computer. The SSD was a bit fiddly but took less than 30 mins.

                  Real shame that you can’t upgrade the newer models

                  • Member 0230 on 11/01/2021 - 19:13

                    @mongos: Ha. That's been the case for so long, and it's not looking to improve much… with the exception of their cheese-grater Mac Pro!

    • Hybroid on 11/01/2021 - 14:56
      +39

      So has everyone else including Google and Amazon, thankfully.

      • ONEMariachi on 11/01/2021 - 14:59
        +14

        It's always funny seeing the right wing whinge about free speech. When anyone with a dissenting opinion from them they attack with violence and vitriol at the drop of a hat. Free Speech for me, not for thee

        • Daabido on 11/01/2021 - 15:01
          +6

          I think you have that arse backwards, but to keep it on topic, it is a good deal.

          • ONEMariachi on 11/01/2021 - 15:02
            -7

            @Daabido: I definitely don't mate, it's a typical right wing tactic to project their own behavior on others. I'd be more than willing to give you a 100 year history lesson on the topic. Even if your attention span is only 3 minutes of media backlash towards BLM.

            But yes, you are correct, it's a good deal.

          • gorge on 11/01/2021 - 15:10
            -2

            @Daabido:

            i think you have that arse backwards

            This. they think they're on their safe-space echochamber that is reddit, lmao

        • PainToad on 11/01/2021 - 15:04
          +4

          It's always funny seeing the right wing whinge about free speech. When anyone with a dissenting opinion from them they attack with violence and vitriol at the drop of a hat. Free Speech for me, not for thee

          I think you'll find that violence exists on both the extreme right and left…You just won't see one or the other depending on what type of biased media you watch.

          • ONEMariachi on 11/01/2021 - 15:05
            -2

            @PainToad: The same talking points over and over. Do you all get your notes all from the same place? Get some imagination.

            • PainToad on 11/01/2021 - 15:09
              -1

              @ONEMariachi:

              The same talking points over and over. Do you all get your notes all from the same place? Get some imagination.

              Being unbiased and saying both sides of the political spectrum have bad apples is controversial now? Get some perspective. facepalm

              • ONEMariachi on 11/01/2021 - 15:11
                -1

                @PainToad: It is when it has absolutely no basis in reality to conflate both sides as being the same- but keep thinking you're being unbiased and not misrepresenting. Take your own advice.

                • PainToad on 11/01/2021 - 15:24
                  -1

                  @ONEMariachi:

                  It is when it has absolutely no basis in reality to conflate both sides as being the same- but keep thinking you're being unbiased and not misrepresenting. Take your own advice.

                  Your hypocrisy is strong. Being unbiased literally means respecting both sides. Something you seem to not be able to accept. Left, Right and Center are all entitled to their opinions.

                  Long as they are not inciting violence - which is where the issues arise with the extreme Left and Right.

                  • ONEMariachi on 11/01/2021 - 15:38
                    -2

                    @PainToad: That’s not what unbiased means. Being unbiased means to not form or have an opinion- effectively facts only. Usually in real world terms is used in reference to judges- who hold no opinion until all evidence is reviewed and presented. Being unbiased in this situation would be the position of. I have no feeling or opinions about either the right or left. That is unbiased. Or presenting direct statistic or evidenced fact. You have done neither of these things

                    You are on the other hand. Creating a picture and opinion on both sides- even whilst painting both sides with the same brush- which absolutely shows a bias.

                    Especially- which you have zero evidence to even do so. Which I know full well you do not have.

                    Also, being unbiased or biased, doesn’t make you a good or bad person. So kindly bugger off with even trying to paint that picture towards me. Again- very much showing your bias here. And your clear intentions and position on the situation.

                    • PainToad on 11/01/2021 - 15:47

                      @ONEMariachi:

                      Usually in real world terms is used in reference to judges- who hold no opinion until all evidence is reviewed and presented.

                      I am stating that all types of people, on all spectrum of the political landscape can be violent. You're being biased and only accusing the Right of being violent.

                      Especially- which you have zero evidence to even do so. Which I know full well you do not have.

                      You are the one singling out a certain group and vilifying them. How about you provide evidence to back up your hate and stereotyping?

                      Also, being unbiased or biased, doesn’t make you a good or bad person. So kindly bugger off with even trying to paint that picture towards me.

                      Being biased and stereotyping entire group based on their political opinions isn't something I'd consider to be a nice person thing to do.

                      And your clear intentions and position on the situation.

                      My position is that everyone can be good people and everyone can be bad people and that everyone has the right to an opinion. There's no secret tinfoil had agenda here.

                      • ONEMariachi on 11/01/2021 - 16:02
                        +1

                        @PainToad: I am not stating that the right wing are the only ones being violent, I'm disagreeing with you saying that they are the same. There's a difference, even if you think there isn't one. I'm not denying violence on the left. But I will absolutely state without hesitation that there is significantly more on the right.

                        I'm at odds with your opinion because it is the standard fake centrist opinion to conflate the two things like that. You may not be coming form that place, but you are regurgitating the standard pretend centrism lines, that the right use to pretend they're not being arseholes. So yeah, it's hard to not immediately assume that's where you're coming from, but so far you've shown me no reason to think that's not your side.

                        When one side has the opinion of entire subsets of people are not human, not deserving of human rights, not deserving of even existing. yeah I'm going to shit on that entire right wing population. Because even the moderates, allow that shit to happen, they excuse it, they defend it, even if they are not the ones inciting the violence. Most of the violence and issues coming from the left, that you are stating are the same are usually things like. Hey (profanity) you stop beating the shit out of gay people, hey stop murdering black people. So yeah, stepping up to fight against that, and calling that extreme left, is a horsesh*t position for you to take, and I reject it entirely.

                        Just so you know, all i did was state that the hypocrisy of Right Wing people that shit on others that have different lifestyles and opinions from them, case in point homosexuals, abortion, black people wanting human rights. Women wanting human rights, and equal pay, aboriginals rights, work and labour choices. All areas that are significantly Right wing targeted hatred and violence on the existence and speech of others? Would you like some more examples? Or are you going to pretend those are not right wing positions to present hate, violence and vitriol towards those situations?

                        • PainToad on 11/01/2021 - 16:26

                          @ONEMariachi:

                          I am not stating that the right wing are the only ones being violent, I'm disagreeing with you saying that they are the same. There's a difference, even if you think there isn't one. I'm not denying violence on the left. But I will absolutely state without hesitation that there is significantly more on the right.

                          I never said there was more or less on any one particular side. I simply said that violence exists on both sides, and any amount on either side is not acceptable.

                          I'm at odds with your opinion because it is the standard fake centrist opinion to conflate the two things like that. You may not be coming form that place, but you are regurgitating the standard pretend centrism lines, that the right use to pretend they're not being arseholes. So yeah, it's hard to not immediately assume that's where you're coming from, but so far you've shown me no reason to think that's not your side.

                          It's sad that your go to move for someone who is being natural and centrist is to attack them.

                          When one side has the opinion of entire subsets of people are not human, not deserving of human rights, not deserving of even existing. yeah I'm going to shit on that entire right wing population. Because even the moderates, allow that shit to happen, they excuse it, they defend it, even if they are not the ones inciting the violence.

                          More stereotyping.

                          Most of the violence and issues coming from the left, that you are stating are the same are usually things like. Hey (profanity) you stop beating the shit out of gay people, hey stop murdering black people. So yeah, stepping up to fight against that, and calling that extreme left, is a horsesh*t position for you to take, and I reject it entirely.

                          I 100% support the right to protest, but I believe violence is never the answer. Unless it is self defense of course.

                          Right wing targeted hatred and violence on the existence and speech of others? Would you like some more examples? Or are you going to pretend those are not right wing positions to present hate, violence and vitriol towards those situations?

                          I'm sure those unfortunately do exist in some right wing people. But surely not all?

                          Please stop making assumptions about be me and others.

                          • ONEMariachi on 11/01/2021 - 16:29
                            +1

                            @PainToad: You are not being Centrist, not even a little bit. I really suggest you actually research what it means to be centrist, because that is my issue with you. You are not being centrist at all, as much as you think you are.

                            It is so clear your job here has been to obfuscate and misrepresent, and I'm so very bored of it. good luck mate. I wont reply again.

                            • PainToad on 11/01/2021 - 16:47

                              @ONEMariachi:

                              You are not being Centrist, not even a little bit. I really suggest you actually research what it means to be centrist, because that is my issue with you. You are not being centrist at all, as much as you think you are.

                              Call it what you want but my political opinions aren't pigeonholed into one political party or ideology. I form my own opinions on individual issues, topics and policies. I consider that centrist. I also respect those who have differing opinions.

                              It is so clear your job here has been to obfuscate and misrepresent,

                              My job? I'm not a secret undercover operative.

                              good luck mate

                              Have a good one.

          • DonWilson on 11/01/2021 - 15:51
            +5

            @PainToad:

            I think you'll find that violence exists on both the extreme right and left…You just won't see one or the other depending on what type of biased media you watch.

            In over 6 months of nightly protests BLM in Portland managed not to kill or even really hurt a single cop. There was property damage but considering the scope of the protests it was minimal and pretty much always didn't risk anyone but the vandals lives, doing so at night and only ever causing serious damage to buildings empty of humans.

            The only deaths during the BLM protests came when right wingers stood in front of them with guns and threatened them. Which the right wingers did multiple times on many days. The time it ended in violence was a rare exception. And even then it was mostly left wingers who died or were harmed.

            On the other hand the right wingers just killed a cop, tried to kill and/or kidnap politicians and overthrow the government. In Orgeon they tried to do the same - deliberately attacking a building to get the humans inside.

            In the last ten years I would say every mass murderer who had a political reason had right wing motivations. Maybe I'm wrong and there's exceptions but they would still be in the vast minority.

            What I'm saying is painting a broad both sides picture and not acknowledging that is hot garbage.

            (I'm focusing on the US because that's mostly why Parler was removed from everything - violent right wingers in the US)

            • PainToad on 11/01/2021 - 16:12

              @DonWilson: I still consider arson and looting violence, regardless if they got lucky and didn't kill anyone. However, I'm sure this was only a small minority of extremists being violent. The vast majority were just protesting. This I agree with.

              • DonWilson on 11/01/2021 - 16:15
                +3

                @PainToad: Still hot garbage. Attempting to kidnap and succeeding in murdering people is not the same as breaking windows and setting fire to an empty building.

                • gorge on 11/01/2021 - 21:40
                  -3

                  @DonWilson: The problem is that BLM and antifa normalised violence this year and made it seem like an effective tool. Antifa were effective in instilling fear in the scotus judges, and that's likely why they lied about Texas not having grounds. People with a violent inclination on the right saw how effective it was.

                  • DonWilson on 11/01/2021 - 21:52

                    @gorge: Such a damn idiotic position. They were afraid of… a few broken windows. A fire at an empty police station. A fire at an empty police union building. A right winger killing protestors. A right winger pointing a gun at protestors getting shot.

                    All of these protests against police brutality, the freedom of police to kill and beat whomever they want without consequence.

                    And the cops gassed and beat crowds of people, hospitalising many and arresting thousands. And none of the cops died. Almost none were hurt. The worst that happened was their fee-fees were hurt and they didn't want to do police-ing no more if there might be consequences to their actions.

                    The violence BLM did was virtually nothing. Vandalism isn't violence. And even then vandalism against empty buildings is nothing like storming a building to capture and kill people.

                    • gorge on 11/01/2021 - 22:18
                      -2

                      @DonWilson: haven't you heard of all the officials whose children got threatened by antifa? They showed up at one congressman's house when his wife was nursing their baby daughter.

                      In another instance, the certifier of the election in michigan was told by other zoom call members that they know where her kids go to school.

                      what about all the people physically assaulted by antifa at a restaurant. that happened multiple times.

                      you seem to have a very warped view of what's been going on the past year.

                      • DonWilson on 11/01/2021 - 23:33
                        +3

                        @gorge: So your first example of left wing iolence: protestors protesting near a congressman's house. They didn't threaten them. They protested.

                        Your second example of left wing violence: bad security on a zoom call got trolled. By who? No-one knows.

                        Your third example of left wing violence: is this that time Andy Ngo was there while a white supremecy group planned and attacked a bar and then claimed that the protestors did it? Be more specific because stuff like that happened multiple times, not sure about this unprovoked violence from left wingers at restaurants stuff.

                        And these were your big dramatic things, the worst of the worst from the left. After literally hundreds of days of getting gassed and beaten by police this is the worst stuff you can bring up - someone was scared because protestors didn't attack them and their family but hey maybe they could have and some kind of non-specific assault with unknown consequences at a restaurant.

                        This is what scared the poor defenseless right wingers to the point where they just HAD to try and kill politicians and actually kill a policeman. They call it rope day. They put up a gallows.

                        You argument works so much better if you were saying the reason the right wingers got so far in the capitol was because the cops were used to the left wing protests not being violent so the violence was unexpected. That'd still be wrong but at least it'd make sense.

                        • gorge on 11/01/2021 - 23:46
                          -3

                          @DonWilson: are you just making stuff up? the zoom call involved leftist election canvassers bullying her and her to certify numbers that didn't stack up.

                          the quote you say was just protesting was more than that
                          "Tonight while I was in Missouri, Antifa scumbags came to our place in DC and threatened my wife and newborn daughter, who can’t travel. They screamed threats, vandalized, and tried to pound open our door. Let me be clear: My family & I will not be intimidated by leftwing violence"

                          Can you imagine what the media would be saying if it was a group of right-wingers that did this to nancy pelosi or someone similar?

                          • DonWilson on 11/01/2021 - 23:55
                            +4

                            @gorge: Oh Jesus Christ you're talking about Hawley. The guy so insane even Rebublicans are distancing themselves from him. The guy cheering on people storming the capitol. He definitely has security cameras and yet somehow there's no footage of this stuff. All other witnesses including the cops say it was a peaceful candlelight protest of 15 people with light chanting of things like "protect democracy". You're a nutter if you believe this whackjob.

                            Can you imagine what the media would be saying if it was a group of right-wingers that did this to nancy pelosi or someone similar?

                            THEY LITERALLY STORMED THE CAPITOL, ARMED. The lady who got shot did so trying to force her way into a room in which congresspeople could retreat no further. Holy hell you delusional bastard.

                            • gorge on 12/01/2021 - 00:31
                              -2

                              @DonWilson: The media and mitt Romney being hysterical about a trump supporting politician and The media taking his statements out of context is most definitely not proof of anything

                            • gorge on 12/01/2021 - 00:37

                              @DonWilson: 100 days of non stop destruction in Portland and 19 dead including David dorn. don’t you think that makes (profanity) just a little bit anxious about their own lives?

                              • DonWilson on 12/01/2021 - 00:46
                                +2

                                @gorge: Again the worst violence you're able to drum up being done by the left wing is… a robbery that happened around the same time as the protests. Not related to the protests in any direct way. But it happened in a city where protests were happening. That's the entirety of the link - they robbed a place while others were protesting.

                                This weak tangentially stuff is what you're putting up against actually storming the capitol, actually fighting cops, actually killing one. Actual mass murderers who have right wing political motivations. You're putting a retired off duty cop getting shot while doing a security job… at the same time protests were happening elsewhere.

                                That's not political violence mate. That's opportunistic thieves.

                                And you're defending the whack job who could easily prove his family was threatened if he had any proof. And if it happened he would have proof But he doesn't.

                                • gorge on 12/01/2021 - 01:51

                                  @DonWilson: i'm pretty sure david dorn's own wife knows a little bit more about the situation than yourself
                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ii395l/ann_dorn_w…

                                  • DonWilson on 12/01/2021 - 12:34
                                    +1

                                    @gorge: And his daughters say she's wrong: https://www.essence.com/news/david-dorn-daughters-rebuke-ann…

                                    • gorge on 12/01/2021 - 13:14

                                      @DonWilson: did you watch his wife's video though? his death was being live-streamed by BLM on youtube, and his grandson happened to unknowingly watch his own father's death. jfc, I'm surprised his daughters have nothing against that.

                                      Also, have you ever considered the hundreds of small businesses destroyed by BLM and the havoc this would have reaped on families? The amount of misery caused by BLM/antifa has objectively been far greater than what happened at the capitol. I'm surprised you still think there's any comparison after everything I've pointed out.

                                      • DonWilson on 12/01/2021 - 13:30
                                        +1

                                        @gorge: Have you seen that video? It was clearly taken at… not a protest. It was a busy street with a bunch of cars. The person videoing it was a bystander that pulled up after it happened. And guess what: everyone films everything now.

                                        You are relying on your anger at protestors to make this link, as was his wife. There is no direct link and your best argument is "someone who wasn't there and has no inside information says so and she married that guy so that is proof".

                                        And again you compare business being interrupted, pretty mild theft and property damage, stuff that'd be covered by insurance, with trying to murder people and violently overthrow a government. How you think that's remotely sane is disgusting.

                                        And even that business damage you're talking about isn't direct protest action. Your big example of left wing violence is a cop (retired, not in uniform) being shot at a robbery not at a protest. What's the biggest actual protest related thing you've got?

                                        • gorge on 12/01/2021 - 14:47

                                          @DonWilson:

                                          What's the biggest actual protest related thing you've got?

                                          Well antifa/blm also tried to overthrow the white house and injured 60 officers. That incident alone was worse than what happened at the capitol. So not even factoring in the 100 days of destruction in the streets

                                          https://imgur.com/9f7a3a86-b755-43c1-b864-14a4230a03ff

                                          • DonWilson on 12/01/2021 - 14:51
                                            +2

                                            @gorge: You're going to need to get a working link.

                                            And god help us what amazing evidence of left wingers overthrowing the white house and injuring 60 officers you have that you need to upload it to imgur.

                                              • DonWilson on 12/01/2021 - 16:03
                                                +1

                                                @gorge: Again, this is the worst you can find. 60 mild injuries over 3 days of protests.

                                                https://www.foxnews.com/us/more-than-60-secret-service-offic…

                                                Even the rabid fox news includes:

                                                At least 11 employees were treated at local hospitals for non-life-threatening injuries.

                                                "No individuals crossed the White House fence and no Secret Service protesters were ever in any danger," the agency said.

                                                I ask for your best example of direct violence and that's it. Bravo.

                                                • gorge on 12/01/2021 - 19:38

                                                  @DonWilson: "Protesters threw bricks, rocks, bottles, fireworks and other items at officers and some Secret Service personnel were also "directly physically assaulted as they were kicked,"

                                                  no where does it say 'mild injuries'. It says 'non-life threatening'.
                                                  Throwing bricks at people should be assumed to be an attempt to kill them.

                                                  • DonWilson on 12/01/2021 - 19:50
                                                    +2

                                                    @gorge: Unlike you I've actually watched hours and hours of live footage of protests. I saw multiple times the cops square up, prepare to move forward and then later use the excuse the mob was throwing things. PDs have proudly posted up pics of confiscated weapons like a bike repair kit.

                                                    Have you got any decent footage of what happened that during this 3 days in which 11 agents received some kind of hospital treatment, all non specific definitely not life threatening injuries. Good god the STRETCH of making this announcement of a very non specific 60 injuries but only 11 of them requiring some form of hospital treatment. I mean hell, my buddy who is a cop in Australia gets in this kind of situation every other week, no protests required.

                                                    There was so much live streaming. You lamented it earlier. Show us that damning footage of someone throwing a brick. So many of the locations had cameras on them. The cops absolutely could have recorded it all but often didn't want to wear cameras, possibly because they were there to beat the shit out of the protestors. And hey, that report doesn't mention how they were injured. Guess what: if you start beating a crowd sometimes your finger jams on your riot shield. Sometimes the guy next to you hits you with his shield. Anyone want to take bets on how many videos of actual violence you can find?

                                                    Because I can give you a video of a woman breaking into a room where politicians were backing into a corner. A veteran and former cop. They break down open the glass into the room. She has guns drawn on her and is being constantly warned. Behind her an ally with an assault rifle. In spite of the warnings she tries to enter. A single shot is fired and for a minute that guy with the assault rifle raises it. Then thinks better since there's a gun pointed at his head.

                                                    I can show you a cop lying on the ground, his head just hit by a fire extinguisher.

                                                    I can show you a line of armed and body armored people moving up the capitol steps through the crowd.

                                                    I can show you a cop getting crushed by a crowd.

                                                    I can point to a woman getting trampled to death by her comrades.

                                                    All during a single protest, a mere couple of hours. And there's more.

        • bargaino on 11/01/2021 - 15:48
          -1

          It's always funny seeing the right wing whinge about free speech.

          I don't know. Yes, given recent events, Parler has failed in their responsibly to moderate incitement to violence, and the suspension is justified.
          But when it comes to stifling free speech, in recent years it is the left-wing cancel-culture and safe spaces that are the problem. Especially in the US.
          Older liberals are aghast at what has happened. This has not yet affected the Democratic party at the federal level, but I do worry.

          • ONEMariachi on 11/01/2021 - 15:51
            +2

            @bargaino: There has been some cancel culture- I agree with that, but i do think most of the time it is due to inciting of violence, and that speech being slated towards dehumanising individuals that right wing talking groups seem to have issues with. Where exactly do you draw the line? It's not an easy answer, as much as people want it to be, all speech is free. It's simply not that easy.

      • ialam99 on 11/01/2021 - 15:29
        +1

        Lol…does that mean we boycott all of them and go back to using my 486 computer and nokia phone?

    • Pennypacka on 11/01/2021 - 15:08
      +5

      Boycott companies who coordinated the censorship of ideas that they have heroically determined offensive to me on my behalf? No thank you! We can’t have people going around saying what they think. Even suggesting such a thing must mean your racist, shame on you @gorge!

    • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2021 - 15:11
      +5

      This is a bargain.

      It you don't like it here, start a gofundme and move to the US.

    • AustriaBargain on 11/01/2021 - 15:14
      +8

      I recommend you stop boycotting yourself with stupid comments on OZB. Wonder what you would be posting if the mob killed Pelosi and Pence.

    • pizzaguy on 11/01/2021 - 15:15
      +5

      Wrong audience, gorge.

      Try in the nazi Germany 85 years ago.

      • Daabido on 11/01/2021 - 15:36
        +1

        I'm surprised it took so long to get to Godwin's law.

        • pizzaguy on 11/01/2021 - 18:54

          Some people refer to nazis, some to fascists, some to colonizers - different locations, countries, often same shit people thinking they're allowed to invade and exterminate others.

          It's easiest to make a comparison to nazis to me; it might be different for you or your neighbour - whichever area you have knowledge/experience in.

          And that recent American mob fooled by a bizzare, out of touch billionare totally reminds me of what I read, heard, learnt about the frustrated German society back in the day. I'd consider it's some different law - perhaps the one about history trying hard to repeat itself aka. people not learning from mistakes or keep being desperately in need and delusional at the same time.

      • gorge on 11/01/2021 - 16:15

        preaching this to the nazis would have been no different than preaching this to democrats today, and just as necessary.

    • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2021 - 15:20
      +9

      Muh freeze peach!

      Blocking users from privately owned platforms is not censoring free speech. Companies have terms of use for the platforms that they own. Right wing muppets are more than welcome to go yell in the streets and accept whatever consequences they might experience, they just aren't welcome on Apple's platforms, according to Apple.

      • gorge on 11/01/2021 - 15:27
        +1

        Blocking users from privately owned platforms is not censoring free speech

        then that means they have to take responsibility for literally everything ever spoken on their platform.
        Either you provide a platform and are not responsible for what is written on it or you censor content and thus are a publisher and are responsible for the content thereof. and suffer suit after suit for what retards have typed there.

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2021 - 15:28
          +3

          I mean… Apple often removes things that violate its terms of service. Doesn't make it a publisher of anything other than apps. It has a terms of service. You breach em, you're gone.

          Get over it snowflake 😘

          • gorge on 11/01/2021 - 15:49

            @[Deactivated]: well at least i can find solace in the fact that you'll never use the privately owned platforms censoring speech is not censoring free speech copout again

    • smartazz104 on 11/01/2021 - 18:37

      What do you use Parler for?

    • sunnyc on 11/01/2021 - 21:20

      Thinking about it. Everyone saying conspiracies are fake which is fair point. It's not a conspiracy when the news media just buries the evidence due to pressure.

    • dzhay on 11/01/2021 - 15:04
      +15

      You mean 'those who value free speech above all else, including direct incitement to violence.'

      The M1 chip in a desktop and banning fascist chat sites are two of the bets things Apple has done.

      • gorge on 11/01/2021 - 15:13
        +1

        just because you disagree with something that doesn't make it fascist.

        • pizzaguy on 11/01/2021 - 15:16
          +5

          Totally right. Back to the point, we should be glad that the fascist app is gone now. Use Signal or whatever gets you pot.

    • inamberclad on 11/01/2021 - 15:05
      +3

      free speech is good
      but when it's used to hurt others, it comes with a cost that some people don't seem to appreciate

      • grasstown on 11/01/2021 - 15:09
        +2

        Even when words hurt others, free speech is still important. It’s naive to think thoughts and beliefs should not be discussed

        • inamberclad on 11/01/2021 - 15:18
          +3

          you've pointed out what i think is the key principle that needs to be preserved i.e. the discussion

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2021 - 15:22
          +2

          Free speech ends where it impedes on others' rights to exist.

          When people are dying because of someone else's """free speech""" it is entirely fair to limit that free speech. That's part of the social contract.

          • grasstown on 11/01/2021 - 15:27
            -2

            @[Deactivated]: that won’t work. That’s not free speech. People went to war defending free speech

    • ForTheGreaterGood on 11/01/2021 - 15:06
      +8

      I value free speech. I don't value misuse of free speech.

      Back to topic - Good deal! Picked up one.

    • Caped Baldy on 11/01/2021 - 15:08
      +6

      Free speech isn't even a thing in Australia and freedom of speech in the US only protects people from the government. It doesn't prevent people from other entities or consequences no matter how stupid the drivel.

      • grasstown on 11/01/2021 - 15:14
        +2

        ?? We have free speech now

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2021 - 15:22
          +3

          What we do have here is a bargain Mac mini!!!! Are you going to buy one?

        • no not me on 11/01/2021 - 21:35
          +1

          Australia doesn’t have free speech. You can legally be arrested for voicing your opinion in a public space, e.g. protesting outside an abortion clinic. Sad that you know more about U.S. laws than Australian ones, as you post on an Aussie deals site.

          • grasstown on 11/01/2021 - 23:03

            @no not me: That true. Im corrected. We can only pray that they do not abort the child.

    • ThithLord on 11/01/2021 - 15:19
      +1

      I look forward to you providing your logon details so I can logon and post whatever messages and comments I like. Free Speech, and all, you know?

  • shaybisc on 11/01/2021 - 14:59

    This may be the first Apple product I've ever been remotely interested in. How does the M1 stack up against say, a Ryzen 4700u?

    • kid-vhee on 11/01/2021 - 15:05
      +3

      arm64 vs x86, both cpu are have different instruction sets. Comparison wise, you'll need to look at real word usage in terms of what you'll need it for (video editing, Photoshop, browsing, email etc).

      Personally i feel arm computing will be the future, however the software side of arm computing hasn't caught up.

      edit: current benchmarks are in favour of m1

      • McOzbargainer on 11/01/2021 - 19:37
        +2

        IMHO x86 is already dying. Apple always does things and every other company then follows. Examples: USB-C macbook, no headphone ports, etc. Microsoft has been trying to make a competitive arm chip, but they aren't doing great. I only found out about the surface pro x (2) after watching a ltt video and seeing it get beaten in performance by a windows vm on a m1

        • shellshocked on 11/01/2021 - 21:40
          +7

          I think you need to do some reading up on x86 before thinking it's a dying architecture. The same thing was said 20 years ago when PowerPC RISC based CPUs came out. x86 just adapted due AMD and Intel pushing each other to innovate. x86 also covers more than just laptops/desktops, and includes server, console and embedded architectures, where they have dominant market share.

          I also think you need to do some reading up on USB Type-C. It wasn't invented by Apple. It was developed by multiple companies as part of the USB 3.0 promoter group. Apple is a member of this group, but so is Intel, AMD, Google, Microsoft, Samsung and many more.

          • 400TX on 12/01/2021 - 08:32
            +1

            @shellshocked:

            The same thing was said 20 years ago when PowerPC RISC based CPUs came out.

            Yeah agreed, though I'd argue that where we're at now in terms of consumer computing is vastly different from 20 years ago. We've all got multiple computing platforms in our households (one in our pocket on our phone; one in our laptop; one on our desktop…games console…TV…the list goes on). Broadly-speaking, consumers don't care what the architecture platform is, so long as it's got the apps they need. This is what Apple is banking on.

        • netsurfer on 11/01/2021 - 23:44
          +2

          USB-C is a mess to be honest. The digital AV dongle, you have cheap ones which does 4K/30; most 4K/60Hz ones not HDR ready. Then, you have dodgy USB-C cables with incorrect PD coding. The mess with 29W chargers (which isn't proper standard). The downgrade of 1m USB-C to lightning cable (used to support USB 3.0, now, cost cutting to USB 2.0).

          The progressive nature of USB-C and the PD is really annoying, especially to Apple users adopting to USB-C early. The 29W charger, the 18W charger, the first gen of 61W and 87W chargers. The first version of USB-C digital AV dongle. You pretty much want all the revised versions or the replacement models.

          M1, fundamentally, is cost cutting from Apple and a huge Intel screw up which is still ongoing. Further port reduction from 4 USB-C ports to 2 for Macbooks.

          If Apple really want to be forward thinking, then it should include WiFi 6E, Bluetooth 5.2 with M1.

        • p1 ama on 12/01/2021 - 14:38
          +1

          Sorry, but all of what you've written here is just uninformed and misleading.

          IMHO x86 is already dying.

          This is a complete crock of BS.

          The main advantage of the M1 vs. the Intel chips they're replacing isn't even really x86 (or, more correctly, AMD64) vs ARM64, but rather, the change in philosophy away from having larger instruction sets (i.e. doing things "in software" as it's commonly referred to) vs. offloading common and demanding tasks to dedicated hardware (i.e. ASICs or doing things "in hardware").

          An example of this is the commonly cited benchmarks showing the M1 capable of complex 4K editing in Final Cut. This is probably mostly due to the integrated integrated signal processor (ISP) which is able to offload a lot of the video rendering from the CPU and perform those common tasks much more efficiently.

          This design philosophy will no doubt translate across to Intel and AMD chips and we'll see huge performance gains. Most people who use the M1 as some demonstration of the superiority of ARM is seriously misled. Also anyone who thinks that Apple moving their Mac silicon to ARM has any impact on ARM64 vs. x86-64 market share is seriously misinformed. Macs account for a miniscule (probably almost negligible) proportion of CPUs being produced. ARM has already outstripped x86-64 in market share for quite some time already anyway due to smartphones, tablets, integrated CPUs in consumer electronics…etc.

      • demiurge on 11/01/2021 - 20:19
        -1

        Current benchmarks are not in favour of M1. If you need to do real work Ryzen is a lot more powerful.

    • garage sale on 11/01/2021 - 15:26
      +1

      well, the M1 runs Mac-OS, the ryzen doesn't.

      You wouldn't but this to run windows, if you wanted a small footprint platform to run windows buy a NUC, and add ram and storage as you like.

      • AustriaBargain on 11/01/2021 - 15:54
        +2

        I bet it won't be long until an easy way to run windows on an emulated VM comes along very soon. It's like running Doom on a calculator, it's only a matter of time before someone does it because we all want to see it.

        • WhiteEvo6 on 11/01/2021 - 18:48

          ARM Windows demos running as a VM are already showing on Youtube from early builds you can download and test. Microsoft has lost its “us vs them” stupidity after Steve Balmer left so as suggested only a matter of time before a supported version is available from MS

        • p1 ama on 12/01/2021 - 14:42

          It's like running Doom on a calculator

          Lolwut? Your entire post shows you have no understanding of virtualisation vs. emulation vs. porting.

          Doom on a calculator is a native port, not virtualisation or emulation.

          • AustriaBargain on 12/01/2021 - 14:45

            @p1 ama: The x86 environment needs to be emulated for the virtualisation to even take place. There is no viable version of Windows for ARM yet.

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