Since Apple has decided to reduce carbon emissions and avoid mining & use of precious materials by not supplying an adapter, I think this is a decent deal for a 18 W Adapter if you plan to buy one.
Sells for $49 at JB-HIFI and $48 at Officeworks
Credit to PriceHipster.
Enjoy.
The 20W one is only 29 from the apple store
Still expensive, but that’s Apple.
20W - $29 from Apple…https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MHJ93X/A/20w-usb-c-power-adapter
Why the negs?
Who the fck neg that comment?? Salesman from the good guys?
Saved me money! Thanks
@Okayy: I didn't neg the post out of hostility or anything. I just genuinely recommend people don't buy this product as apple have a faster charger for $4 more
@carpecrash: 18-20w is hardly anything to loose sleep over I’d just get the cheaper one, the higher the wattage the worse it is for your battery anyway. (More heat is generated in higher wattage power delivery = faster battery degradation)
@ColdFusion: *Lose not loose. That's not necessarily true for the genuine Apple products though as they are specifically designed to provide the wattage delivery required to charge their batteries. Just because the wattage is higher that doesn't meant it will be delivering a full 20w down the cable for the time required to charge the battery. Plus the cable itself could be a crap one so may not be able to deliver 20w. It may be worth looking into battery integrity tests too as we may find the results for a 18, 20, 40 or 65w charger vary greatly for battery degradation. It may not be as bad as you suggest.
That said, Apple is a con so why not go for the unofficial charger? Apple still get a cut. So feck it, get their charger instead I guess.
@Bull3tMagn3tMan: Agreed, the difference may be very small and insignificant. It does seem like it should be something to consider when using higher watt chargers.
@ColdFusion: Apparently 18W charger won't fast charge iPhone 12, but is still pretty fast:
https://www.imore.com/18w-charger-you-got-your-iphone-11-pro…
Need a 20W for the official fast charge … whatever that means
18 watt: $25/18w = $1.38 per watt.
20 watt: $29/20w = $1.45 per watt.
This deal is still better value.
@ColdFusion: This guy just did a test of various Apple chargers with interesting results
https://www.macrumors.com/2020/10/26/magsafe-charger-needs-2…
@carpecrash: Like I said this guy saw these results with the iPhone 12 not enough to lose sleep over
Apple's 20W Power Adapter - 15W
Apple's 18W Power Adapter - 13W
https://www.macrumors.com/2020/10/26/magsafe-charger-needs-2…
@carpecrash: The results aren't surprising, he failed to list the specified voltages and current supplied by each so without understanding the direct impact of these and the efficiencies of each charger at these specified theoretical maximums indicated on the housing of the device.
Not sure why apple still calls it fast charging whereas Most competitors offers above 40w charging already..
Because it makes no difference whether you use a 20w or a 40w on an iPhone. You get 50% charge in 30 mins
wouldnt even use 20W+ on the daily. it'll just reduce the performance of your battery…
@Samsta: Based on current ozb rate, we all changing phones every year or every two years, battery isn't a big deal killer problem I reckon, would prefer my phone can be charged in 30 minutes instead of carrying a brick powerbank all day long. If we all thinking 40w plus changing would shorten the lifespan of battery in a short time, then my huawei p30 pro should have died by now instead still going strong after one and half years.
@[Deactivated]: My P30 pro still going strong in it's second year - 2 day battery life still achievable
Fanboys of both sides may I state that the power delivery is more dependent on temperature than the wattage written on the box. Yes, Android phones will charge faster initially but will probably throttle after the battery heats from the amount of power. Might I also say often these fast chargers are often larger and bulkier to deliver the greater power? I think its a gimmick, a useful one but if you are buying a phone based on how fast it charges then good luck to you.
@ColdFusion: Yes, that Huawei p30 pro was bit of luck I guess, battery still can last easily a day with 30 minutes charging after more than one year's usage. It does require a fast charger which is bigger than iPhone's, but I am still quite satisfied with their charging tech as well as battery longtivity up until today. Got a new oppo find X2 does 65w charging, fast and realiable now, shall see how it goes.
If you are getting the new iPhone 12, then Apple recommends the 20W power adapter, and for only $4 more it is a no brainer (if you want Apple brand).
Anyone who can afford to get an iPhone 12 should not be complaining about an OEM charger worth $29.
It's the feels. Nickel and diming customers in the name of environmentalism.
@Daabido: That's right, I'm getting an iPhone 12 so I can help the environment. I like to do my part! ;)
@Daabido: As much as I agree on this, I also think it’s smart. Sure, this year they should have included one in the box. But even if everyone buys one this year, if you upgrade in 2-3 years, you’ll still be using the same charging brick. Rather than having an excessive drawer full of them, you’ll only have what you need.
@Daabido: I don’t disagree, particularly given they’ve only shipped USB-C adapters with phones for 12 months so it’s likely a lot of Apple customers don’t in fact have a stack of USB-C adapters. Sure, their USB-A lightening cables will still work, but they’re very likely to have a crappy 5w adapter that shipped with that old cable too.
That said, on the plus side the Pro model phones at least have received around a $150AUD price reduction for us here in Australia based purely on adjustments against the USD compared to 2019 models. No discount for the US and other territories, but compared to last year for most models you’ll be ahead even if you need to buy the adapter. Exception may be the base “12” compared to an “11” due to that model going up $100USD which likely destroys and reductions you get from a better AUD/USD conversion rate.
This is also Apple brand 2w isn’t going to revolutionise your charging experience…
only for phones and tablets i guess, looking one for laptop
Apple's other chargers are worth looking at. You can get another charger for a little cheaper with the same W, but the Apple one is a lot nicer. You could also get one of those things that has a USB C and four USB ports if it's rated high enough.
Apple one is a lot nicer
How?
One example from their smaller charger:
http://www.righto.com/2012/05/apple-iphone-charger-teardown-…
@jay9: Very interesting, though my takeaway from that article was:
Samsung sells a very similar cube charger for about $6-$10, which I also disassembled (and will write up details later). The Apple charger is higher quality and I estimate has about a dollar's worth of additional components inside. But it sells for $20 more.
I'll take the Samsung one, thanks. Though in reality, I'll take the RAVPower one with multiple outputs…
Have a look at what's sold in stores, the Apple one just looks and feel like a whole other class of product. It's smaller and smoother edges makes it easy to slip into your handbag, but somehow feels like it has more heft per square inch than cheaper versions. It only has one port but at least you can know that one port is capable of giving what you need if you need PD. It means you need another adapter to charge your watch and phone stuff if you can't charge them off your iPad/Laptop.
@AustriaBargain: That's doesn't mean Apple's earlier chargers are problem free and Apple do cut cost too:
The 61W and 87W do not come with a plug with an earth pin. You can buy another cable ($$) that has it. While Apple products generally are better quality, Apple do make mistakes and do cut cost too.
@AustriaBargain: The glossy surface feels awful, matte black/white would be nice. Size average for its performance, while the 5W one was really compact in its early era. Nothing really special, just one of the many chargers out there.
What are the better-value options for the same thing? I know they exist.
Will this $10 KMart 20W charger fast-charge an iPhone 12?
Don’t consider saving $20 on a charger value if you have to worry about it’s potential to short out and reduce your house to a pile of ash. I wouldn’t go below $20 on a charger that will be plugged in 24/7.
Just a reminder that the new 20W USB-C power adapter is only $29 at JB so at least Apple lowered the price for that
Does this provide fast charging?
Yeah the USB-C charger does about 50% in 30 minutes.
Is iPhone 12 using UBS -C to charge? This is what confused me..or this is for laptop/macbook?
@Twix: If you want real fast charging, the 20W with a USB-C to lightning cable is still much faster.
You still need a power adapter (such as the 20W one) to connect the 15W MagSafe wireless charger, but it will charge at less than half the speed of the above wired method.
@Maxxjet: I believe it still has the Lightning Port so if you're already using an iPhone, you can still use the same cables. The confusion is because the cable included is a Lightning to USB-C, so you can't use the existing wall plugs if you want to use the new cable.
@Maxxjet: Yes, Apple is still using the older Lightning standard, yet for some reason have USB-C at the other end?
@Maxxjet: The move to USB-C (from USB-A) is necessary in order to achieve fast charge properly.
USB-A chargers only suppose to have 5V support (based on official support). While Qualcomm came up with QC,QC2 and QC3, they do not conform to official USB standard - that's why Google, for Google branded phones do not use Qualcomm QC. Google also uses USB-PD. QC4 onwards includes USB-PD (but obviously that also means switch to USB-C).
USB-C plug introduces heaps more pins and the reversal plug is done by doubling the pins. For power, it has PD pins. Those pins are allowed to carry up to 100W.
You can still charge iPhone 12 using a USB-A charger. It just won't charge quickly. Also, Apple includes a lightning to USB-C cable with iPhone 12.
Yes, it is the 20W one, the latest one release along side the iPhone 12. Not sure about using it for non-Apple related phones though. You might have to look into that.
Mine is broken which came with Ipad 2 years ago, it was broken after 6 months indeed.
I rang optus and they said charger is only with 6 months waranty.
I decided to use my usb cable to the power board from Ebay, 12 dollar for 4 cables.
Anything sold in Australia comes with a minimum 12 month warranty and, if it's an accessory, it will carry the warranty of the thing it comes with unless explicitly excluded. In short, Optus told you lies. Apple will replace yours for you no questions asked.
Apple won't offer to replace it for free if you never make them aware that it stopped working in the first place though. Their mind reading department presently can't read minds further than a 100 meter radius around each Apple Store.
Not doubting you but anything you can share so I can learn more about anything being sold has 12 months warranty?
It's not 12 months- they made that up. ACCC states, reasonable amount of time. It's on their website. You can pretty much argue any time you want under that proviso
Contact Apple chat and advise them it’s still under warranty according to Australian Consumer Law, as you expect it to reasonably last for 3 years as you’re paying it off over three years. They will accept this and ask you to send the faulty one back and send you a replacement - all free.
Does it come with the cable or just the brick?
just the brick
No I believe it comes with just the cable, not the brick (wall plug).
This post is about the power adapter, which comes without a cable. The phones just come with cables now for environmental reasons and the power adapter is now cheaper as a concession.
@akerr: Ah yes. I read the post as if he was asking if the phones came with just the cable or the brick. 👍🏻
Just the power adapter.
going to continue to use my crappy old lighting to usb cable to charge my new iphone 12, purely based on principle >:O
Same here - working from home - in absolutely no rush to charge my phone.
But the environment!…
Courage
The courage to bend over and screw their user base and for their user base to go all 'Oliver Twist' on Apple and say. 'Please, sir, may I have some more please?'
there is new 20w with only $29 and can't see this value here.
Yeah I was actually gonna post this deal earlier, but then found out about the new ones.
Not much point buying the 18w anymore when the new 20w ones are just $4 more, and the 18w also won't fast charge iPhone 12.
Important to note that this won't fast charge an iPhone 12
As per the description blurb it does - You can also pair it with iPhone 8 or later to take advantage of the fast-charging feature.
As per Apple, to get the advertised fast charging speeds a 20W (or greater) power adapter is needed. I'm sure the 18W will charge decently quick but for the full monty just pay the $4 extra and just get 20W from Apple!
You are right! Link provided by @CompulsiveOzB does mention - Unofficially, it looks like you'll be able to get pretty good/very similar charging speeds from the 18W charger.
"Since Apple has decided to reduce carbon emissions and avoid mining & use of precious materials by not supplying an adapter"
"Since Apple decided to make even more profit by not supplying an adapter"
FIFY
Isn't it financially better to buy this charger & get free phone with it?
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/11/21363317/xiaomi-mi-10-ult…
41% in 5min & 50W wireless fast charging. With 120W you might try to fast charge your Tesla ;)
We will have to wait and see how long these phones batteries last… 120W is only for a small duration of the charge cycle and the phones are hard to get and not the same price as this 18W charger.
Yet they refuse to allow 3rd party repairs on their phones. The courage of them.
But every brand new iPhone sold year on year save a square kilometre of the amazon rain forest.
/s
Funny logic that is; since if they no longer ship it with a charger, it puts the onus on the customer to seek out a suitable charger from a) apple or b) third party and if the third party charger is seemingly more competitively priced - a customer is likely to buy that not knowing whether the materials that went into that third party charger were ethically sourced or not mined.
Seems like an Apple PR fail, least they could do is provide a list of recommended/certified third party chargers…
They do - they recommend theirs and made it cheaper to reflect that this is about the environment and not just profits.
Don't know why they would release a 20W charger when there's already an 18W charger. Performance difference is so minor and it will be much more efficient and environmentally friendly.
Performance difference is so minor and it will be much more efficient and environmentally friendly.
You dare challenge apple. The worldwide environmentalist?
@MagicMushroom: The 18W USB-C charger doesn't fast charge the iPhone 12.
The 20W USB-C charger does fast charge the iPhone 12.
@MagicMushroom: Because they made it better? As this post shows, they don’t throw out the old inventory, it’s just phased out and replaced. Like the phones every year.
Apple should switch to USB-C if they are worried about e-waste. Encourage people to share their chargers and stop duplicating the market. Increased margins, shipping costs and the transition to a future no-port iPhone are more important to Apple than this bunkum about being ethical corporate citizens.
They are so worried about e-waste. They are locking each component to a particular device.
That's right. 2 identical iphones both brand new cannot have their parts switched over. It stops working if you do.
So when Apple stop supporting said device and stop manufacturing parts for it. It becomes useless eventhough the rest of the parts work fine.
The right to repair movement does more about e-waste than Apple will ever do.
Good price. Thanks for sharing.