Seems like a pretty decent deal. Latest i7 processor, 16GB RAM (2x8) and 512GB NVMe SSD. Backlit keyboard too.
There have been previous cheaper deals with a better graphics card but smaller SSD.
Also don’t forget 10% cash back via ShopBack / Cashrewards.
im holding out for a good new XPS deal, they look so nice and sleek!
I have to admit, it's on my wishlist but not within my RRP price range 'as is'
Those new XPS 15 and 17 are super expensive.
What can we expect come tax time? Is that the trend? I can wait until tax time but am currently laptopless. This price point seems great and not being an avid gamer but will probably run most things yes?
Can’t comment about tax time. The dollar has been smashed so who knows what companies can afford to offer? Having said that they may be trying to flog as much as possible to drive sales?
In terms of capabilities - yes. It’ll run most things quite capably. High intensity games are probably out of the question (will leave that to the experts though). Not sure about the video / graphics side of things (not my jam).
Ticks all the boxes except touch screen :(
I find I rarely use my touchscreen on my 2-in-1. It just doesn’t seem intuitive when compared to an iPad etc. but horses for courses :)
Plus battery takes a hit on the touch/larger res screens. (i have an xps 13 with infinity touch)
not even when scrolling through comments on ozb?
PC vendors really need to dump all Intel 4 cores CPU ASAP before Ryzen 4000 mobile APU (7nm + 8 cores + better iGPU) laptops widely available…
I believe you! but for some reason I am unable to purchase a mobile workstation based on one, so probably Lenovo and Dell are not convinced yet 🧟♂️
@[Deactivated]: Give it a few more weeks/months for the newer models to come out:
https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-edge/…
https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-ser…
Might want to actually have a look at the Ryzen 4000 APU's that were mentioned before you spruik that outdated spiel. For example - https://www.anandtech.com/show/15708/amds-mobile-revival-red…
Comparison of the 4900HS to the Intel i7-9750H (note the Intel 10000 series were released after the Ryzen 4000 series which is why it's not compared). The gist of it is that the Ryzen gets nearly double the battery time. For example 12.5 hours of video playback vs 6.5 hours on the Intel.
Given that these are laptops configurations aren't identical, but they're similar enough that a nearly 100% efficiency difference isn't even worth arguing about.
I know everything about Zen2 architecture, what did I say that is not true? they fixed power consumption when idling - finally, so what? once again, when there's a business grade laptop based on Zen2 (most likely Zen4 though), I will get one to put through its paces, I promise 🤞
@astro If you are going to quote technology - be up to date (which you are not).
what have I said that is not true? open Dell website —> For Work —> Latitude or Precision series and open filter section. do you see any non-Intel CPU's? I don't, and as far as I am aware it's not planned, not for a while.
there were Lenovo AMD based business machines A475 and A485, and former was a big flop, second is barely an attempt.
consumer market lost knickers over Zen2 architecture, so what? when there's a Latitude machine based on one, count me in!
@[Deactivated]: A lack of AMD processors in those devices specified means nothing about security or any of the points you have mentioned.
Also Intel is stuck on the 14nm process which is less power efficient than AMDs 7nm process.
I have a laptop with a 10710u processor and it is incredibly power hungry and hot. Processors like the 4900hs fare much better comparatively.
@misterpotatomato: it is that simple: when a business grade laptop based on Zen2 is released, and survives one year with rate of failure below 30% it gets my seal of approval, immediately
until then, benchmarks mean little to me. yes technology advancement, yes it's exciting as hell, but no, I won't buy one
yes I would love to get the server room to double as beer storage, I just don't see it happen in the next year or two. and those hardy folks who haul around Xeon-based laptops would love to get a laptop that doesn't burn a hole in their hip chinos, it will be a while till it happens
until then, have fun 🙃
@[Deactivated]: I won't have to wait for a long time potentially, since Lenovo is releasing T14 and T14s this winter.
we'll see how it fares! Intel could use some competition at last, because for the workhorse laptops there's little reason to upgrade from the good old i5-8250u it survived a few refreshes but it's still a staple. released.. oh gosh in 2017
but you have to understand that 3 years isn't old in corporate market. if you buy a business laptop you expect parts to be there for 5 years at least, some extremely reliable units can last 10 years without major issues
and that's also because they don't set any speed records that they are reliable, you don't want temperature to go all up and down on your electronic components, they tend to fail quicker when that happens.
anyway, it's a bit more complex than "new CPU released, let's go", some people still walk around with Lenovos based around 5th gen Intel mobile CPUs, and no reason to replace 🧟♂️
@[Deactivated]: That rationale is flawed. Lenovo and Dell provided intel chipsets because of internal contracting arrangements. Neither distributors have released information to state they won't use AMD because of 'failure' rates. The internal support each company has concerning computer building, warranty and tech support is based on their contract terms aligned to the parts they receive.
A similar analogy is how Qantas has the vast majority of corporate travel arrangements with Australian located companies using corporate traveller bookings. Does this make Virgin Airlines any less suitable? It's only a matter of time before AMD becomes more common in the commercial markets for corporate and everyday consumers.
@w37hsyea: you're repeating what I said, so I don't see a contradiction or flawed logic here. it's a matter of time, and I am waiting patiently tor such laptops to be designed, implemented and proven a success.
until then it's a consumer grade toy for me
@[Deactivated]: It's in reference to your posts:
1.'Intel platform is much more ironed out and stable'
2.'when a business grade laptop based on Zen2 is released, and survives one year with rate of failure below 30% it gets my seal of approval, immediately'.
The real-world results of AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 4000 series on laptops) are not a 'toy' in comparison to Intel offerings. You're making a few logical fallacies in your posts.
@w37hsyea: I cannot find any, would you point them out please?
I go right now into supplier price list and check for business laptops based on AMD, what do I see? there's Lenovo A485 alright, the only stick in the mud. there's no logic here, it's just a fact.
when there is a workhorse here (equivalent of T490/490s or Latitude 5400) based on AMD with a proven service record, we'll revisit the question.
@[Deactivated]: And that may never happen as Dell, etc, may never release said configuration because people like yourself won't buy them because no one ever got fired buying IBM.
@kale chips suck: not true, since we were one of the few who bought into A475 when Lenovo released it, however, it piled up in the IT room quickly with USB port failures, and various strange behaviour patterns..
do you remember in early 2000's there was this issue with Athlon based machines that could be solved by completely shutting off power from the system? And I mean it, completely, by unplugging the power cord, just shutting system down won't fix it.
well, I remembered about it when I realised that some of A475 issues can be fixed by removing the battery - completely shutting the system off. a lot of people were joking that not much progress has been made in that department in 15 years.
we do still go through with it, now replacing A475 with A485, mostly for junior staff. less complaints now, definitely. they cost less, too, compared to T490s that they mimic. cheaper case materials, though, so Lenovo isn't quite positioning them as T490s replacement themselves.
we'll see. time will tell. maybe we'll get some of Ryzen based T14/14s when they are released. maybe not. I don't make that decision
Current and next-gen Sony and Microsoft consoles both use AMD cores.
Unfortunately I can only upvote you once.
commendable 👍
I think the issue is lack of OEM's making proper laptops with the Ryzen APU…almost like they have a deal with Intel not to make them…
it's a great unit except Dell cheaped out on the display panel, poor coverage 50% of sRGB
for an average Joe who probably never seen a color accurate panel before it doesn't matter (chances are an average Joe will never see a color accurate panel) scratch that everyone has an iPad, and those come with really good panels, iPad pro's are even capable of wider colour gamut
so. if you hear this, Dell, HP (no, screw HP), Lenovo, please it's 21st century out there, if a silly tablet comes with a color accurate screen, why can't we have that in every laptop that's over $1000 at least?
long story short, another great laptop comes with a crappy panel. ditto
This resonates with me. Everytime I see a good deal on a laptop, I get excited until I read what panel it supports and that excitement quickly dies down. Its 2020 if you want to compete with brands like Apple and MS you need a decent QHD / 4K panel with good sRGB coverage. Its why I still love my original Surface Book the display is awesome.
I gave up for now basically. few times I have just purchased machines and replaced the screen. I go to part suppliers and pick what I want. wide gamut, no flicker, 300nit - sweet spot. these panels are not expensive! come on PC makers hear my prayers and just start using them.
Likewise I am still using the original surface book, excellent screen and amazing keyboard imo, it's perfect for office work and browsing, it's woefully underpowered for photo or video editing (6th gen dual core) but amazing for less demanding tasks.
Past me wouldnt care about that but present me pretty much has this as the number one priority due to photography and graphic design needs.
Frustrating.
cheap way to get a good screen is to get a machine where you are happy with everything except for the screen - and replace the screen.
I did that on 14 inch machines (non-touch) and 15.6 inch machines (non-touch). it's very simple, if there's no touch screen involved. and panels that go into best designer(/CAD/graphics/whatever) laptops can be had for $140 (give or take) delivered.
there are a couple of caveats if you upgrade a screen from 60hz to 120hz, or if you bought Lenovo or HP (those machines might have a white list) then the process isn't that straightforward, otherwise if you are a Dell user, or MSI, it's very easy.
Wow thanks I've never considered that but will look into it. Cheers.
@jacross: in general, the cheaper the machine, the easier it is to change the panel. but not true for everything. you have to look up service manual for the machine you're interested in to find out what kind of model there is, how it's fixed (hopefully screwed in, not glued in, I hate those), and how to go about replacing it.
Lenovo T and X models (T480-490, X270 etc) are a pain to replace a panel in, you need to disassemble the whole bloody unit to do that. and when you're done, you also have a white list to deal with! I hate Lenovo for that. not ideal.
on the other hand if you pick up Dell Latitude which is always my choice since these machines are designed to be modded and opened and serviced and upgraded every which way, it's just a matter of popping the display bezel, removing 4 screws, disconnecting the cable, repeat in reverse order with the new panel and you're done. Dell Latitude 3000 or 5000 series, or Dell Precision 3000 series. Not only they can be found cheap 2nd hand with warranty still attached (easy to extend warranty, too), they are also well built, power optimized, and supported for years. I can't remember last time when I built a personal machine based on anything else. I have 2 perfect panels that I put in every next machine I build (one 14 inch, one 15 inch) which give me what I need (300nit, 90+ percent sRGB coverage, zero flicker) and problem solved.
for a 15 inch laptop this is your starting point
300nit. 90%+ sRGB. no flicker. IPS. 1080p. 15 inch. screw mounts up and down. eDP interface 30 pin.
this fits 90% of mainstream 15" laptops, including said Latitude 3000 and 5000 series, Precision 3000 series. This will fit HP 250 G6/G7 (yuck). This will fit Dell Inspiron 3000. This will fit Lenovo Ideapad 330 just for the sake of argument. This will NOT fit most of current generation HP 15 inchers because the bastards started to glue their panels to the lid. how low can you go, HP.
USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-C with Data Transition Only (with discrete version only)
Any idea what this means, can I use the Type-C on this laptop to connect to dock/ hub for multiple screens? Assume this means I can't charge via Type C?
Yeah it just means you can't charge the computer with Type C but you can do everything else like run displays or docks.
Thanks. After reading the fine print, Type-C is not available in this model, only available in models with NVIDIA GeForce MX230.
Hmm been contemplating pulling the trigger on this from the HP deal for $1209 - https://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/Merch/Product.aspx…
Looks like this might be a competitor. Also wondering whether I should just wait for eofy.
When was it that price? Seems like a great deal.
I was given a DELL XPS 9570 to use for work, it's snappy and quick with 16GB RAM and i7 running with 2.2GHz processor. A bit too pricey (like 3k+ or something), so I was looking at this one as it has similar specs. But might wait it out as this was on sale for $1011 6 months ago: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/495091
Torn between this and waiting to pay a bit more for a thin and light.
I'm a teacher and the school issued laptops are atrocious, so I want to buy one to carry with me from class to class that is nice and snappy. Anyone able to comment on battery life on these? And if the battery brick isn't too heavy itself?
Willing to pay up to $2k but this might be too good to pass up. I'm not really thinking EOFY will be good to us this year in the current market.
OMG this post is me in a nutshell.
Depending on which state you are in you might be able to salary package it when we do find one. Send me a PM if you need anymore info
If I were you I'd get lower CPU (and maybe 8GB RAM) but lighter and more durable. Maybe Inspiron 7000 series or XPS.
If you're a teacher may I suggest a Lenovo Thinkpad - they have far and away the best keyboards on the market which matters for anyone writing a lot.
Any of the T4*0s series (Or the X1 if you're feeling fancy) will do you nicely.
X1 has been top of my list actually, if a decent deal comes around the $2k mark.
What's the appeal of this? It seems like a pretty meh chassis with some meh specs, really should be well under $1k no? It was on sale for $1k last year but with the better graphics. The CPU is weak, graphics are ok but not really that good compared to a low end NVIDIA card or AMD APU. The screen is nothing special, a cheap poor accuracy panel. SSD prices aren't so expensive to justify the difference, and new laptops that came out this year make the cpu seem pretty out of date
SSD is twice the size of that one (256GB vs 512GB). But it's still worth a neg for the other reasons mentioned.
How good is the build quality of this laptop. Couldn't find which material they are using for the body
I purchased this laptop a while ago and returned it.
- weak battery life
- not so great display
- decent performance
Did you end up paying 20% restocking fee?
Would this laptop be decent for general gaming?
Not really no, much better options for gaming at this price range. Much better options for any use case in this price range but that's another thing. It'll do 720p low and esport, but it's not great great for gaming.
Get a laptop with a discreet GPU, e.g. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/538749
Awesome thanks :)
What do you recommend for around $1200 as a business laptop? 15" FHD, 512gb SSD, have numpad
The ThinkPad E15. There's an AMD version coming next week too
I have the similar model 5584 compared to this 5593, 15/5000 i7/16GB 512GB, I find it quite heavy 1.83kg
Damn, 1.83kg laptop is considered heavy? You better hit the gym once this Covid-19 outbreak has eased off.
lol true, I have the LG gram laptop that weighs less than 1kg higher spec than Dell 15/5000 so maybe i was too slack
How did this laptop fare with your regular use? What things did you use it for?
Reviews mention sub-par battery too
Dell 15 5000 was offered at work hence 80% time in office and 20% outside (being mobile and all):
Pros//I'm happy with
- Nice clear and bright IPS screen
- Number pads on keyboard handy
- Battery is somewhat between ok to above average for my usage as majority of usage with power connected
Cons//Things annoying
- Not light, as previously mentioned (this is personal)
- When keyboard backlight is on during day time/night time becomes very awkward, the letters become kind of invisible hence very annoying.
- Unpredictable delays caused from sleep mode, there were times I had to completely shut off and restart, considering I only have MS Office installed and light use not sure if this is Windows 10 Home issue or me just being impatient.
All above issues I have non with LG gram BTW
Are you sure the model is using IPS panel?
I have two dell laptop using one TN and the other IPS. The difference is large.
I can't stand with the quality of TN panel, which is not viewable.
Are Dell known for price jacking before a sale? I'm looking at the Inspiron 14 7490 but its starting price has gone up $200 from two months ago, when there was a previous deal posted on OzB.
FX rates? Cost of part increases?
Yeah, both of those are plausible reasons, so I'm just wondering if there's history of Dell being sneaky, or if there might be a legit explanation and so the price this week is a good one.
Ahh not sure. Looking back on this similar deal they’ve stripped out the graphics card but bumped memory. It’s still about $200 more expensive (pre cash back). Hard to know during this time.
Would snap it up if 13". Great specs for the price.
looks same as HP Notebook 15s-fq1061tu
https://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/Merch/Product.aspx…
30% off through student portal
please note, we bought the same laptop in the ebay sale at the end of April. Our unit is still in 'transit' to the main hub and now has an expected delivery date of early June. So over 5 weeks from payment to expected delivery. Not ideal in my opinion.
If you buy this, you should be prepared for a long shipping delay before delivery.
Did your laptop arrive yet? Mine is still "In transit to local hub" for the past 10 days, expected delivery this week to 23 June.
Any idea where the laptop is coming from?
This deal is back on - i just purchased one for a family member. Tough to beat these specs. I use something similar for work 50+ hours a week, never an issue
decent offer, im trying my hardest to wait for tax time deals