HP OmniBook Ultra 14" 2.2K IPS Laptop Ryzen 9 AI HX 375 32GB/1TB - $2299 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ JB-Hi-Fi

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  AryaTheExplorer on 20/02/2025 - 00:49

  +1

  Screen is quite meh, IPS and 60hz but the chip is really strong.

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  Filayq on 20/02/2025 - 01:12

  +1

  am I the only one confused by seeing OLED in the product name and IPS display in the description? is that a mistake or is OLED name of the laptop family? :D

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    azr0n on 20/02/2025 - 01:20

    +1

    Weird! I just copied the name from the JB website, looks like they messed up aha, maybe opportunity for something there 👀

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  Kai4039 on 20/02/2025 - 01:29

  +1

  Hodl, ryzen AI max + chip laptop are on the way and only 2nd to Apple M4.

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    azr0n on 20/02/2025 - 01:30

    Verrrry expensive though - but seems like some cheaper SKUs coming? Maybe hard to see how they'll perform

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    Corgsta on 20/02/2025 - 08:22

    Only if you care about local AI processing though? That ain’t me.

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  HPdeskjet on 20/02/2025 - 01:38

  +1

  HX375 = yikes no thanks

  especially with this 60hz IPS $600 laptop spec screen

  zen5 mobile has worse idle power draw than ryzen 5000/6000 series even, 3 gens old

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  if I wanted more perfomance I'd go for a dGPU 14" at around this price point

  get the 226v/258v one for 50%+ better efficiency + nearly double battery runtime

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    shabaka on 20/02/2025 - 08:09

    +1

    not sure why the downvotes, I agree with the 2nd part at least, 2xx intel CPUs are the long awaited step in the right direction.

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      AreYouAWiiizard on 20/02/2025 - 17:24

      +1

      Considering how poor they were before in efficiency, definitely. Unfortunately they are mostly only so efficient because they are much weaker (in some tests they can be twice as slow), if you run the laptops at full load AMD actually ends up more efficient but the HX375 doesn't do so great in smaller loads/idle. The comparison is a bit of a weird one since AMD haven't released their lower powered variants yet.

      That said, this post really doesn't seem like a deal because of the poor screen, at this price point they really should be offering much better.

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        HPdeskjet on 20/02/2025 - 17:41

        Agreed, and on a 14" ultraportable most of what you're going to be doing is smaller loads / idle.

        On laptops full tilt efficiency basically dosen't matter, in barely any circumstance are you going to be pushing PL2 / PPT limits @ 54w on a thin and light 14".a

        I would avoid this deal on the screen alone, but even if it had the 2.8k 120hz OLED I would avoid the HX 375 out of general quality of life like idle power draw and core parking stuttering.

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    shellshocked on 20/02/2025 - 13:27

    There are probaly downvotes because this person is spreading incorrect information.Based on their past posts they haven't put up any deals for a long time, just criticize everything. I had a chance to try both these CPUs at my workplace in a similar chassis, and the AMD HX375 is a lot faster than both these Intel CPUs. Must be something to do with the lack of Hyperthreading by Intel on their new generation. You can easily notice the delay in performance of the Intel chips when they are side by side with the AMD. The laptop with the Intel 258v looks like it just lagging, even with day to day tasks. You can see the AMD based laptop just loads the application faster. In terms of battery life, there was only a max difference of between 30 mins to 1hr and I think because the Intel laptop had the ability to have variable refresh rate and drop below 60hz, whilst the AMD was fixed at 60hz, but it was nowhere near 50% better efficient as claimed in real world testing that I experienced.

    I would recommend putting these laptops side by side, if you have the opportunity because, you can easily see the difference and that the AMD HX375 is a faster than the Intel 258v.

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      shabaka on 20/02/2025 - 13:46

      +1

      is it that bad? I've only heard good things about intel 2xx series so far. I haven't had a chance to play with one, was anticipating getting one myself..

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      HPdeskjet on 20/02/2025 - 17:25

      There are probaly downvotes because this person is spreading incorrect information.Based on their past posts they haven't put up any deals for a long time, just criticize everything.

      It's fine to reccomend a better deal no? especially when the much superior option is up for 2.4-2.7k.

      It's not like I'm critizing deals for the sake of critizing deals. Hell, OP even listed the intel option above.

      I had a chance to try both these CPUs at my workplace in a similar chassis, and the AMD HX375 is a lot faster than both these Intel CPUs. Must be something to do with the lack of Hyperthreading by Intel on their new generation. You can easily notice the delay in performance of the Intel chips when they are side by side with the AMD.

      I (and multiple others) have noticed the exact opposite experience, all HX370 / 375 chips have far more frequent UI stutter than current gen intel due to C3/C6 state agressiveness for core parking.

      After noticing this trend, we asked some people to poll CPU state data on their laptops using UXTU + Hwinfo64, using current gen:

      • Zenbook 14 (HX 365 + 258V)
      • Omnibook Ultra (HX 375)
      • Omnibook Ultra Flip (258V)
      • Vivobook S14 (226V)
      • Proart PX13 (HX370)
      • Yoga 7i Slim (256V)
      • Yoga Pro 7 (HX370)

      from 3 different people on Discord in the SFFPC community. You can thank US returns policy for being able to test the laptops and sending them back for a full refund…

      The 258V tends to spend 60-70% of the time in C1 with a single core nearly always in C0 (unparked), whereas on the HX375 / 370 / 375 the entire CPU is constantly falling asleep in C3 (or even C6 if you are using the power saving balance slider in Windows), which takes far longer to wake up from and results in a significant delay in even opening programs or even responding to mouse input if you stop interacting with the laptop for 1-2 seconds. Strangely enough, the HX370 Yoga didn't have this issue, but it also dosen't last a full day.

      The HX laptops were only really smooth when plugged into a charger. Even the lowest end 258V Vivobook felt significantly snappier than a HX370 Proart PX13 or HX375 Omnibook on battery, especially on the lack of UI stuttering is very obvious.

      The main thing that the HX chips are faster in is all-core rendering (granted, much faster), and better driver support for graphics applications.

      In terms of battery life, there was only a max difference of between 30 mins to 1hr

      I have a friend who purchased both models of this exact laptop and ended up returning the Zen5c one on battery life. The IRL usage figures are more like ~16h out of the 256v omnibook ultra and ~10h (not bad at all) out of the hx375 omnibook ultra in web loads and day to day use with the same screen, but he was getting 2 days out of the Intel one.

      (He is waiting on the Al Max+ 395 Asus Z13 now, as am I. 128GB unified memory sounds like a dream, Hopefully this Zen5 revision fixes the battery issue).

      30 minutes to 1 hour difference is maybe possible if you had a 60hz IPS panel on the AMD unit and 120hz OLED panel on the Intel unit, with the OLED screen having 60-70% higher power draw.

      I would recommend putting these laptops side by side, if you have the opportunity because, you can easily see the difference and that the AMD HX375 is a faster than the Intel 258v.

      Me too, one has minor UI stuttering on battery and the other one dosen't.

      HP is trying too hard to compensate for the high SOC/IOD idle on zen5c by pushing aggressive core c3 / c6 power saving states, you really notice the 200-500ms polling wakeup for the rest of the cores (zen5c has 4 actual cores and 8 space efficiency cores). The same issue is present on Snapdragon X Elite based laptops if you've used those.

      I can record this behaviour later with a slow-mo camera if you want, it's fairly obvious.

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        HPdeskjet on 20/02/2025 - 18:53

        Videos demonstrating what I was talking about:

        Here's the HX 370 (Balanced preset)

        https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1113860872771747890…

        Here's what it's supposed to look like (Also Balanced preset)

        https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1113860872771747890…

        Notice on the unparked CPU it switches windows near-instantly as soon as you hear the mouse click, and the pictures load a bit later.

        On the HX 370 it the windows switching is so slow due to the CPU parking / sleeping in C6 that the pictures are already loaded during the stutter before the window switches.

        Listen in the video for the mouse clicks and how slow the UI response is on the HX 370. This behavior is consistent across the PX13, Omnibook and Zenbook.

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  shabaka on 20/02/2025 - 08:05

  nice. but to jump off MBP 16 m1 pro I need a 16" OLED panel with at least 2000p. and half decent battery life

  there are deals on and off that almost match what I need, but hey I got mine refurbished for $1700 (looks and feels brand new) and build quality is very convincing, haven't seen anything else that matches the build apart from perhaps Razer Blades. I hate macos but it's really hard to go back to windows world now. the speakers are unbelievable too. and battery life. and the fact that there's no reduced performance on battery. dammit

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    Corgsta on 20/02/2025 - 08:26

    Yeah I have a MBP, it’s my first, got it last year. And love it. I’m used to MacOS now and much appreciate it - no ads, nags, forced updates, New Teams, New Outlook, info bars asking for feedback, etc etc. You’re right re build, speakers and battery - I feel the same. I’d buy another as a couch PC to replace my old old Surface Pro 2, but the MacBook Airs don’t have a touchscreen. iPads run iOS which in my opinion is crap for getting anything done.

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      shabaka on 20/02/2025 - 08:31

      true that. I kind of forgot about that. stability without constant updates and whatnot. I kinda love it. and seamless gesture control. and that touchpad. and keyboard is better than I expected. dammit apple. if only MBP 16 was just a tad lighter. pretty much everything else tgey got right

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    HPdeskjet on 20/02/2025 - 17:35

    The issue with Razer Blades is that every generation past zen3+ (6900hx) has had reduced battery life, from ~10h now to ~6h on the zen4 (7940hs) / zen5 (8940hs) models. AMD is moving far backwards in that respect, and the 285H dosen't exactly look very appealing on the Intel side either.

    The G14 2024 has had a chassis redesign, it's no longer made with the really cheap feeling ceraluminium of the G14 2023 / Zenbook line and feels a lot more solid, so that's a potential choice. The hinge wobble is still there though.

    The current issue with the M3 / M4 Macbook Pros however is the insanely bad 40-60ms screen ghosting is, 2x slower than the M1 Macbook Pro and worse ghosting than 60hz VA panels - scrolling on a webpage makes the text turn blurry and leaving trails if you have ProMotion enabled (I have a M4 Mac).

    Upcoming Tandem OLED Macbooks should resolve this, should wait for those. If you haven't seen the new iPad Pro M4 IRL you should, the screen looks insanely good and pretty far ahead of all current laptops today.

    The Macbook Air (60hz IPS) or 13" Macbook Pro (Also 60hz IPS) dosen't have this issue, it's a 120hz MiniLED specific issue. Apple really cheaped out on the panel for the current gen MBPs.

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      shabaka on 21/02/2025 - 11:26

      is it? I haven't noticed this on my MBP 16 M1 Pro. have been very happy with the panel, no complaints. I must be one of those folks that do not notice it. it's much nicer than my work laptop's 120hz adaptive RR panel.

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        HPdeskjet on 21/02/2025 - 17:29

        The M1 Pro actually has a much faster panel (~40ms g2g) than the M3 Pro / M4 Pro (~71ms g2g)

        It does have smearing but nowhere as much in comparison.

        For reference 60hz VA is ~20ms.