2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
Announced 2011, April
Status Available. Released 2011, May
Size Dimensions 126.1 x 65.4 x 11.3 mm
Weight 148 g
Display Type S-LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 540 x 960 pixels, 4.3 inches
I think that alone deserves a neg… even before I know how much this phone is currently selling for.
The postage is very overpriced. Express Post Platinum 3KG satchel from Sydney to Perth is $17.70. I'm sure the box would fit into the satchel and the total weight is definitely less than 3KG.
Cheaper here: http://zakdeals.com/HTC-Z710E-Sensation.
AU$529.00 (includes shipping)
No reviews on this website though so its a little concerning. Anyone here had any experience with these people? All I could find was a facebook page… and very few 'likes'
It's been at this price for a while. If you include shipping, the following site is cheaper:
SGBest $528 USD delivered (choose to pay with USD, it's the cheapest for some reason), so around $515 AUD depending on your credit card. I bought this last Sunday night with a 28 Degrees credit card, Total = $510 AUD, arrived via DHL on Friday
http://www.sgbest.com/product.php?id=338
Plenty of Whirlpoolers have bought from there, pretty reputable and based in Singapore:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1714143
(Search for SGBest)
I am very very happy with my Desire HD. (Predecessor)
That said, there was a problem with it, the handset speaker (the speaker for normal phone calls) was broken. Apparently it is a very common issue.
Please consider warranty issues if something like that were to happen to you.
I have Desire HD too, all i can say about the speaker is that it's born broken~lol….aside from that, it's all good…
Neg for unreasonable and profiteering delivery
Sorry tids2k. I have to NEG this one.
Australian site selling HK phones that are stocked in Hong Kong.
No local warranty. Illegal import. Possibly an unsafe charger/AUplug.
Site indicates Australian warranty and is therefore liable for repair costs should the manufacturer not honour it.
Site indicates Australian warranty and is therefore liable for repair costs should the manufacturer not honour it.
No valid warranty from HTC in Australia. Buyers would have to trust ShoppingSquare to either return the phone to Hong Kong for repair/replacement and then get it back to the customer - a long wait without ones phone I would think. Or the buyer would have to trust ShoppingSquare's local repairer, and hope that they could obtain genuine HTC parts.
and if they dont just call the department of fair trading. Trust me i have done it in the past and it works wonders.
As with all the illegal imports sold by ShoppingSquare they say:-
"ShoppingSquare.com.au Australia provide Australian local Warranty Service for all the Direct Ship Offer items"
However, I have questioned them about warranty (in the case of a SAMSUNG) and I was told that they use their own repairer and after market parts. I guess that it would be the same with HTC, or they may return them to HK.
I do not understand why the ACMA and Fair Trading are not enforcing the legislation that prohibits the sale of these items in Australia. There is also the matter of the GST that it appears these Australian sellers are not collecting and remitting to the Tax Department.
Illegal? WTF?
Dude, it is not illegal for Shopping Square to engage in direct shipping. Nor do they need to collect GST or duty for direct ship orders. If the value of the order is above the tax free threshold of AUD$1000, it's the responsiblity of the importer of the direct shipment (ie the customer) for any duties or GST payable. There are literally 100s of Australian business that operate in a similar fashion.
Read at the bottom of the product page:
What is Direct Shipping Offer?
For Digital Camera (and Lens), Video Camcorder or Mobile Phone orders - the items will be shipped directly from Oversea Supplier by Fedex, DHL or EMS. It take 3-7 working days to arrive anywhere in Australia.
How about GST and Custom Duty?
For the order value less than AU$1,000 - No GST or Custom Duty has to pay. Please check Australia Custom web site http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5549.asp
For the order valus over AU$,1000 - Australian Custom Clearance Service is provided by Fedex or DHL, we will provide all necessary documents bundle with the parcels. Customer may need to pay GST, Duty and Custom Clearance fee for Custom Clearance.
Dude? Really? Dude?
Anyway….
It is illegal for ShoppingSquare to offer these phones for sale in Australia to Australian customers.
ShoppingSquare.com.au are making the sales. They are collecting the payments. They are required to collect GST and to remit this to the Tax Department.
By making the buyer into the importer they are putting the buyer at risk.
Shopping Square are only acting as an intermediary between the customer and overseas supplier of the direct shipment. By definition of direct shipment they are not breaking any laws or responsible for collecting any associated federal taxes. Being an Australian business, they will have to pay other business taxes, but not GST or duty on direct shipments.
Yes, the customer is (debatably) exposed to a higher level of risk, but that is a decision for the customer and there is nothing illegal about the process.
After the whole SGS2 fiascal, I think people might want to avoid SS for buying phones. No offence to OP, but neg for SS.
I would do the same, no offence to OP, neg for SS!
Non existent customer service.
+1
Shopping Square = Poor customer service = Rip-off postage => No Bargain!
Good luck dealing with them when something go wrong.
camelgrass wrote:-
Shopping Square are only acting as an intermediary between the customer and overseas supplier of the direct shipment. By definition of direct shipment they are not breaking any laws or responsible for collecting any federal taxes.
This has been tried before. Under Australian law ShoppingSquare.com.au are the sellers. They are collecting the payments and taking the orders (contract of sale). They are responsible for the warranties (as the manufacturers are not in these cases). They are also responsible for the GST.
Yes, the customer is (debatably (sic)) exposed to a higher level of risk, but that is a decision for the customer and there is nothing illegal about the process.
The item is an illegal import. The buyer is made into the importer. Customs should seize these phones, but they do not inspect or act, unless there are several phones in a shipment.
I spoke with someone from the ATO today. They give the company a "big tick" (their words) as they are operating in a way that satisfies the requirements of the ATO and GST legislation. That is, they are not required to collect GST for orders sent directly from an overseas dropshipper to the customer.
Apart from the legislation, there is the practical issue regarding collection of GST. If GST was collected by the seller, and the customer purchased a drop shipment valued at more than AUD$1000, then they would be paying the GST component TWICE.
As I said, there is nothing "illegal" about the process, or the phones for that matter.
I spoke with someone from the ATO today. They give the company a "big tick" (their words) as they are operating in a way that satisfies the requirements of the ATO and GST legislation. That is, they are not required to collect GST for orders sent directly from an overseas dropshipper to the customer.
How strange! I called the ATO and spoke with a lady there. I explained the situation, seller is an Australian business with an Australian domain, selling to Australians in Australia, collecting payment in Australia, shipping stock from Hong Kong. She confirmed that this is completely illegal, and that the seller must collect the tax and pass it on to the ATO. She directed me to the reporting form, for reporting this illegal tax avoidance.
As I said, there is nothing "illegal" about the process, or the phones for that matter.
This process has been confirmed by the ATO as being tax avoidance. The sale, supply, and importation, of non-compliant mobile phones has been confirmed yet again (last week) as being illegal.
Please stop spouting this clap trap. Check with the ACMA and the ATO as I did.
Shopping Square: Poor and inconsistent customer service, totally unreasonable.
rawrrrrrrrr battle cry
ditto
shopping square? kidding me… Our nightmare started from a Galaxy S2 with an unbeatable price from Shoppingsquare. http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/48636. People who bought the phone on 11th July are still waiting for them phone today.
It's going to take them over a month to deliver the product. And you'll find out how terrible their service is!!!
Buyers Beware!
You'd think that with $49 delivery the courier would be boarding his helicopter the moment your payment is processed.
![[Shopping Square] HTC Sensation Z710e Smartphone ($494.34+Shipping)](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/78/50878.jpg?h=5f497c52)
$49 shipping.