One of Ozbargains favorite coffee machines.
While, traditionally this is not a fantastic price (Normally about $710 on ebay with code) I have been wanting this machine since I missed out on the last deal back in July, this is the best price since then and the market seems to have changed in the last couple of months. Stock levels dried up and The Good Guys and Harvey Norman stopped stocking this model and were only selling it in the duo pack, it's only the last couple of weeks that The Good Guys have stocked again.
Breville BES920BSS Dual Boiler Espresso Machine $799.20 + Delivery (Free C&C) @ The Good Guys eBay
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DIY?
and can be f doing it yourself
i have never heard CBF being used in the positive format, bravo.
Also get the good guys concierge warranty. I'm onto my 3rd machine and they've done right by me every time. No hassles.
I bought my one for home in 2016? And one work work last year. The one for home had to be replaced twice but its been all good until recently it blew some valves and they sent it away for a repair. Good as new now.3rd Machine? Says more about the reliability of this machine.
I'm on my Sunbeam EM7000 that I got from a previous OZB deal from 2014 and it's still going strong. ~1 coffee (double strength) a day for more than 5 years.Peace of mind, I guess.
3rd Machine? Says more about the reliability of this machine.
no it actually doesn't I've had mine since 2016ish and have used it about 4 or so times a day every single day since then and it works fine, just because you see 1 person here having issues doesn't mean the entire product has bad reliability. You will always hear people complain about something if it breaks for them but you won't hear many praising it because they just use it and enjoy it.
@Mooncakes: Likewise for my machine. Has not skipped a beat.
@Mooncakes: You're right, people who have issues make more noise than people who don't. But it doesn't mean these machines don't have reliability issues - they do. The issues typically start at 4-5 years old, and it's always the same things. Not being a downer about the machine - they're certainly capable machines - just a PSA that everyone should get it checked out as soon as they start experiencing anything strange with the machine. The sooner it's rectified the less likely it'll cause major issues.
It also helps to know these things before going into a purchase like this. If you can expect 5 years of use out of this machine, you're still coming out ahead vs going to a cafe daily, even on one coffee a day.. and that's enough for a lot of people.
@wintermadness: The typical issues start from 3 months - 12 months old.
Generally the OPV valve is t set correctly out of the factory. That's a day 1 fix.
We have one of these (lower more basic model though) at work, it lasted 6 years being used 20+ times a day. Finally replaced it with an op shop find of the same thing and thats lasted over a year at 20+ times a day so far.
We had to replace it because some of the seals were starting to go simply due to regular wear and tear.
I know you mean well by your suggestion but you would be covered under ACL anyway.
Normally I tell people not to buy extended warranties, but in this particular case, it's a good idea to get Concierge because you will have to service your coffee machine at some point within its first 5 years of service life (you should do this with any coffee machine, regardless of model or brand) and I think it'd be tough to cite ACL on something like a servicing cost. Concierge covers wear-and-tear part replacements within that 5 year period and any servicing needs with one of the Breville service agents. You also can use the 3x $20 vouchers you get to buy the water filters needed for it since they're $19 each or thereabouts.
All up it's actually good value. I wouldn't buy Concierge for most other items however.
Im just worries about the cockroach :’( last time i bought a creatista and it has a cockroack on the lid
Cockroaches love coffee machines. Just put a bait in the toolkit or behind the machine and that'll gettem
They love microwave ovens too. Just keep everything clean and don't let crumbs and food residue accumulate. Not much you can do about their attraction to warm areas though.
I find ants are more of a problem.
I never had that problem lol
Since when was Ozbargain your blogspot?
Just saving others the drama of buying to resell…
Welcome to the capitalist economy my friend…supply vs demand dictates what people are happy to offer you for a second hand coffee machine
@inasero: But it's not second hand… Haven't even pulled it out of the box.
Besides, if they want to 'offer' myself nothing they can't get offended when I tell them to FO in no uncertain terms!
@kronicmacstigator: Were you offering to give them the receipt? If not, it's second-hand. Without the receipt they have no way of knowing if it's broken, stolen etc.
But more to the point, what did you expect? People who don't want to pay RRP/shop prices…don't want to pay whatever for an item and are looking to pay the least possible. Completely fair and understandable.
You can just politely decline any offers you don't like and move on with your life, but it doesn't make them bad people.
This whole site is frequented by people exactly like that - NONE of us want to pay more than we can get away with for anything…
@Shoocat: Was happy to give them the receipt.
Anyway… In my opinion people who lowball are bad people. Scum of the earth in my opinion. Vultures looking to prey on people who can least deserve it.
At least when I get my jaws in it's only in capitalist corporation's and not the poor bugger on Gumtree selling obviously new items trying to make a couple of dollars to pay the rent
@kronicmacstigator: Haha you can tell him where to shove it then…I'd also be insulted to be given a lowball offer of $300
Bloody waste of time
with a smart grinder, i've sold 2x new sets with receipts for $1000.
a bit of retail arbitrage available@chinezejew: But I'm not throwing in a $160 new grinder though
Would you take $310?… Got to love the constant barrage of undercutting on Gumtree!
I set my heights so low when I list there, these days most things I list are free so I'm not chucking it out… Works wonders
Ironically I bought it fully intending to use it. Just with the heat of summer I'm stuck in cold brew mode (cutting with milk) until winter kicks in. Hopefully I'll have sold my Oracle Touch by then
Was gonna get one of these and decided I could make do with a Breville Bambino Plus at $399. So glad I did. Ripping machine.
Recommend changing the baskets.
Dual boiler would destroy that bambino at the right price point and skill level though
100% kronic. The bambino is impressive for its footprint, however.
Absolutely!
I was damn tempted to get one myself for $170 2nd hand but didn't have the control I wanted. For a point and click with auto frother it's a damn good buy
@kronicmacstigator: Would be good for a caravan.
However, my parents have an oracle. As such, I hate Auto frothers.
@lethalmoney: Bambino Plus has a much better frother than the Oracle (which we have at work). There's no comparison between these two machines of course but the Bambino was all I needed for my 1 to 2 cups a day
@enzso: If it works, perfect :)
Definitely get additional warranty. My 3yo+ machine just had the steam valve replaced for $210, and it needed solenoid and seals about a year ago when I still (just) had warranty.
The worst part about the repairs for me though were the 2 weeks of strung out coffee addiction waiting without it.I need to do a descale on this machine, I think I have the BES 900 but I think they're almost identical.
Anyone know how to do a proper descale on this, any good video for it?
Mine also has a "clean me" message that's been coming up.
Great machine though, highly recommend. I bought mine refurbished off eBay I've had it for 3 years hasn't missed a beat and gets regular use.
You haven't back-flushed it in 3 years? :o
Thats all 'clean me' is saying. It essentially runs an automatic back-flush cycle as a program then clears the code.
Descaling is different,
see here-I followed this video and a litre wasn’t enough and descalling stopped.
Needed 1200ml minimum for my BES920Thanks man! Honestly I may have done a descale at some point but it was long enough ago that I don't remember, so I definitely need one. I seem to remember the machine saying it would tell you when it needs one but it's been that long that I want to do one anyway.
Appreciate the link, will give it a go.
Clean me is a different thing. Clean me is put the cleaning disk in with some coffee cleaner tablets/powder and run the cleaning cycle. Look at page 27 onwards here https://www.breville.com/content/dam/breville/us/assets/misc…
Cheers man, I have the silicon disc thing but no cleaning tablets. I've ordered some tablets off eBay and I'll give that a go next week too.
The BES900 doesn't have a descale function unlike the BES920. It needs to be descaled manually, which involves syringing water into and out of the boilers. If you decide to go down this path remember you're working on a 240v appliance so be sure to turn the power off at the wall and allow the boilers to cool down for at least half an hour before opening them up.
If this doesn't sound like something you're capable of doing then you should seek the expertise of an appliance repair centre.
However, if you aren't experiencing any issues with your machine I'd probably continue using it as is.
Check out this video, the one suggested above isn't suited to your machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3RScpzAan0https://coffeesnobs.com.au/documentation-midrange/49821-brev…
Important notes:
mix liquid descale with water, 1:10 ratio. Descaling powder is also available and cheaper.
First flush with descale solution (110ml liquid descale + 1100ml water), 2nd and 3rd with water.
Each flush requires ~1200-1300ml minimum.Be careful descaling the BES920 on the auto function. Known issue only solved in very recent models which resulted in the boiler heating while empty and the overheating fuse blowing. Absolute pain to replace! Not a common occurrence, descaled ours 6 times before this happened to us.
Yes I still can't figure out how to descale following the poor instructions on the Breville manual. I even tried couple of different youtube videos but they're all super confusing and the "descale" message won't go away!
I think the BES900 needs to be descaled by Breville service. Breville only introduced the user descaling in the later model BES920.
Cheers man, since you and @B-Rad mentioned there's a significant difference I went back through my invoices and can confirm it's actually a BES920 that I purchased, for $499 after eBay voucher back when they had a real 10% off sitewide. In that case I'll follow the 920 descale instructions and give it a go.
Strongly recommend getting Concierge extras with this. We had issues with this machine twice. While both times the repairs were minimal they just gave us a new machine on the spot.
Breville took over 2 months to repair our previous coffee machine. They gave us a new one after ordering parts and replacing them several times to find there were more broken bits than working.Is it possible to get Concierge extras on a purchase from their ebay store?
The only reason my Bes900 lasted 5 years was due to the extended warranty. I would never purchase one of these without it. The repairs are $200-$380 each time. Mine was in for service every year.
Just extremely cheap quality plastic parts when brass parts are meant to be used.
Might pay to call your local store before purchasing the machine. My inclination would be to say yes, because their invoicing system is the same and allows one to purchase concierge extras within a week of purchasing the product.
What I did was go into the store, ask them the best price they could do with Concierge and it landed up cheaper than the eBay sale, didn't even need to mention eBay.
got ours with grinder for $1079 3.5 years ago. Still going strong. 3-4 Double shot coffees a day plus visitors.
Is BSS the newer version with espresso pour auto stops to 30ml for a single shot and 60ml for a double (I.e. volume dependant rather than timer)?
I think you can set your shot for user set flow volume or flow time on any version of BES920.
Cockroaches do like coffee machine. What i do is place under the machine a large garbage bag and just pull it back up and tie it when youre done. When you need it untie and push the bag down.
use b8 m8
Nah i believe in karma and prevention
Six hundred and something I got mine, treat it well and it will do the same for you! Fantastic machine for those who like coffee and cbf DIY