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Entry Level Gaming PC: i3 9100F | RX 570 4GB: $499 + $29 Delivery @ Techfast

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Entry Level Gaming PC: i3 9100F | RX 570 4GB: $499 + $29 Delivery @ Techfast
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Marketingluketechfast on 07/08/2019 - 13:42 techfast.com.au (2656 clicks)
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MOARi3RX570

This system was posted by BA yesterday but I mucked up the pricing - we can go $100 lower on it. Definitely an entry level PC in terms of what we normally offer, but as people commented, it is more than capable of solid performance on today's popular titles.

Code MOARi3RX570 brings it to $499.

Spec: i3 9100F | RX 570 4GB | 8GB 2400MHz RAM | 120GB SSD | H310M Mobo | 550W PSU | Leaper Small Form Factor Case

Upgrades available on most components:
RX 570 4GB —> RX 580 8GB: $100
RX 570 4GB —> GTX 1660 6GB: $140
RX 570 4GB —> GTX 1660 Ti 6GB: $240
16GB RAM 2400MHz upgrade $99 + higher speeds available.
$29 to upgrade to 240GB SSD, $79 for 480GB.

Delivery $29.

We are also phasing out Biostar AMD cards so it's extremely likely you will receive a Sapphire.

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  • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 07/08/2019 - 13:47
    +5

    That's definitely better pricing. Sapphire cards as well - they're amongst the best (generally the best) of the AMD AIBs.

    By the way, you've got 5470 in the specs list (in the post).

  • jsediv on 07/08/2019 - 14:29

    How would this stack up against my old i5 3570, GTX 770?

    • Oxenfree123 on 07/08/2019 - 14:39
      +7

      UserBenchmark and other various sites say you'd be looking at around a 30-40% increase in GPU performance and I'd guess around a 25% bump in CPU performance. Overall it would definitely be a sizeable, noticeable upgrade. Could you get more gains for more $$$, yes of course, just depends on your budget.

      If you only have $500 to burn the main reason I'd recommend upgrading to this build for the price is you are investing in the newest architecture (e.g. you're currently stuck on DDR3) and the current upgrade path on your current build is pretty limiting. If you wanted to chuck a much more powerful CPU or potentially go to 16GB's down the track some day you'd have no problems with this build.

      It's a very nice base for potential future upgrades.

      • jsediv on 07/08/2019 - 14:44

        What would your recommendation be for <$800?

        • Oxenfree123 on 07/08/2019 - 14:56
          +7

          If you're gaming at 1080p I'd go with this deal:

          https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/471740

          Upgrade the RX570 to the RX580 via the configurator and you've got a nice build that would last you a while at 1080p for under $800 (the Ryzen 3600 is significantly better than the i3), and also allow for future upgradeability on the new AMD platform. The 3600 is around 40% faster than your current CPU on UserBenchmark, which doesn't sound like a lot, but to put that into perspective going from the 3600 to a $600 i9 9900k is only a 15% increase…

          If you're only interested in getting the most bang for your buck there's always secondhand, but you won't find many 3600's on the used market at the moment.

          • alidli on 07/08/2019 - 16:10
            +1

            @Oxenfree123: Same question really- what's your view about replacing this 6th Gen i5-6400 https://aldi.medion.com/md8804/au/?refPage=medion fitted with Sapphire Radeon HD4870 X2 graphics card, with this deal?

            • Oxenfree123 on 07/08/2019 - 16:40
              +5

              @alidli: Short answer is, Yes, this system will be a huge upgrade gaming-wise on your system. The long answer is you can save some money and get equal performance for around half the cost.

              Your situations a little different. The i5-6400 is a much newer chip than the i5-3570, it's no slouch even though its a couple of years old and won't bottleneck any sub-$1000 card. Your system really only needs a newer GPU and you'd have a great setup.

              That being said, without knowing too much about the Aldi Medion (like does it use a custom board, what's the PCIE slot situation etc..) I'd be pretty safe in assuming you'd be able to handle most dual-slot graphics cards so long as it has the right cables on the PSU. That's really going to be the most critical part, you're going to need probably 2 PCIE 6/8 PIN connector cables on that power supply to be beyond doubt it can handle any GPU you throw at it, which I doubt it has and I can't see that info listed anywhere online (given it's branded as a multimedia system I doubt they will have put a beefy PSU in it).

              That being the case any upgrade recommendation I could give would be based on the assumption you'd need to upgrade both your GPU and PSU. If that's something you're comfortable with grab a 80+ PSU around 500 watts (e.g. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/45117/thermaltake-smart-…) and a second-hand RX580 for around $200 or anything above that and you'd have an awesome system that's fairly futureproof going forward for under $300.

              Sorry for the long-winded answer, just wanted to stress your situation its very dependant on your PSU and didn't want you to buy a GPU and be disappointed when your PSU doesn't support it.

              • alidli on 07/08/2019 - 17:27
                +1

                @Oxenfree123: Thanks so much for the taking the time and providing a thorough answer, no use in spending several hundred dollars if current PC is OK- found some info on the innards of the Medion https://whrl.pl/RexHlV. Will go the upgrade route and may add an 8GB mem-stick

                PC stuff improves so quickly and if you've lost interest in reading all the latest computer articles, the knowledge you had becomes redundant.

                • Oxenfree123 on 07/08/2019 - 17:50
                  +1

                  @alidli: No worries, glad I could help. Nothing wrong with the i5-6400.

                  I also agree adding 8GB of Ram, would give you a nice bump (didn't want to assume budget), chuck in a newer GPU and you'll have a nice 1080p current system.

    • Ostrk on 07/08/2019 - 14:39
      +1

      I'd save more for a better upgrade

    • Strong Salad on 07/08/2019 - 15:29

      Just grab an rx580 graphics card and your system should be able to run most games at 1080p near max quality. The rx580 can go as low as $220 if you can wait for a deal.

      Edit: Oh wow, that i3 9100 is a quad-core that boosts to 4.2ghz. Changed my post accordingly.

      • Fergy1987 on 07/08/2019 - 15:55

        yeah those RX580 deals are slowly drying up lately. I've been trying to get one - no luck

        • kapone on 07/08/2019 - 17:39

          Especially if you're avoiding MSI (they have major cooling problems, which is why they're easier to find in stock).

        • Strong Salad on 08/08/2019 - 15:25

          Yeah, I noticed that too. Some good deals on ebay atm if you do a search.

      • bestbarginever on 07/08/2019 - 18:11

        I rather get GTX 1070 secondhand. Much better tbh

  • Oxenfree123 on 07/08/2019 - 14:31
    +1

    Great deal!

    Quick question, anyone know if the RAM config is 1x8GB or 2x4GB?

    EDIT - Website says 1x8GB

    • TwentyTwoCarats on 07/08/2019 - 15:39

      Any advantage or disadvantage between the two configs?

      • ShrimpDuck on 07/08/2019 - 15:43
        +4

        Using 2 sticks allows for the ram to run in dual channel which increases the available bandwidth. In games this translates to about 20-30% fps uplifts over a single stick setup and possibly more if the cpu is bottlenecking heavily.

      • Oxenfree123 on 07/08/2019 - 17:54
        +1

        Not a huge difference, but dual channel certainly gives you a bump.

        The main reason I was asking is I was assuming the board only had 2 slots for Ram, so 1x8GB is actually preferable in my opinion as down the line you can add another 8gb stick to upgrade to 16gb without needing a whole new set of Ram.

  • wisc on 07/08/2019 - 14:42
    +7

    Wow! at this price point there is pretty much no point in buying a second hand dell and putting a low profile graphics card in it (except most dells come with a windows license), this is a good 20% faster, and new.

    • Lighter Fluid on 07/08/2019 - 15:42
      +1

      don't think anyone's been doing the second hand dell for awhile now, these guys have been here awhile.

      People just keep falling for the fact that the dell systems have older i5's and that lures them in. Brand name/familiarity etc over actual performance boost and cost efficiency. Quite unlike an ozbargainer to do so but if it gives some people peace of mind then all them.

      • wisc on 08/08/2019 - 11:42

        or even i7's, (which is what i get free from work, old stock) The i7 4770 are actually decent performers, pair them with a 1050 Ti and you actually have a decent low level gaming PC for 220 bux (thats if you can get the dell for free of course) or better yet the nvidia 1650 for 279.

        given i get them with 16GB of RAM, and 2x 256SSDs (as well as an optical drive) upgradablilty is Extremely limited, but they certainly get the job done.

        its only these last couple of generations that the older i7s have really noticeably fallen behind, that said they can still keep up with most modern games… specially when your talking GPU bound rather than CPU bound… (heck an onboard hd4000 can play eso on low settings)

        that said you could also Frankenstein them out of there case add a external power supply, decent graphics card and away you go again… better amd graphics cards.. etc…

    • scuderiarmani on 07/08/2019 - 18:01

      $10 fixes that problem…

      • wisc on 08/08/2019 - 11:33

        genuine, non vlk or MSDN keys, which are not legit.

    • daryar daryar on 07/08/2019 - 18:34

      So it is a way to go for a very occasional player? :)

      • wisc on 08/08/2019 - 11:44

        yes (with the cravat it depends on what your playing and what quality you want to play it on) , the above i3 system is fantastic for the price with some decent quality gaming, just upgrade the HDD at least 29 bux…

        the only thing your going to struggle with is the OS though…

        if your just playing simple games (or much older games), with lower settings, the dells may still be able do it at half the price.

        eg your not going to notice the difference in mindsweep.

        • daryar daryar on 09/08/2019 - 16:09

          Well, I would play games like CoD 2/4, or maybe WoW so I think these games should work fluently.

        • [Deactivated] on 20/08/2019 - 12:35

          Cravat.
          Caveat.

          Frankenstein.

          Love your commentary btw - taught me quite a lot…

  • bliss35 on 07/08/2019 - 14:49
    +1

    Do you guys sell 4k Gaming monitors?
    Noticed the ones on the site but looking for 4k!

    • Marketingluketechfast @ TechFast on 07/08/2019 - 14:50
      +2

      Not at the moment. We're looking into suppliers though.

    • stewy on 08/08/2019 - 00:10
      +2

      I've got a 4K monitor on my PC and they really aren't that great for gaming as they need serious GPU power to get decent frame rates.

      Personally I'd stick to the 1440p high refresh rate monitors for gaming.

      • bliss35 on 08/08/2019 - 10:10
        +1

        its for my PS4

  • nzthunderboy on 07/08/2019 - 14:54
    +1

    Anyone noticed this deal may also qualify for choice cheapies ?

  • Viospeed on 07/08/2019 - 15:06

    How are the 9100 processors for gaming?

    • Lighter Fluid on 07/08/2019 - 15:31
      +1

      Not too bad, but keep in mind it may or may not bottleneck if you plan on upgrading upwards in the gpu department. For this system, basically if you plan on staying at these specs its a good deal, if you have even the smallest inkling of wanting to upgrade buy something else. Literally everything in here needs to be replaced at some point. Maybe only the gpu is a decent off the shelf item.

  • odgaf on 07/08/2019 - 15:48

    just remember that not even an i5 3rd gen will bottleneck a modern gpu, i have an i5 760 quad core first or second generation of i5 i cant remember, it plays bfv on my gtx 1060 no problems, yes its nice to have a fast cpu but for gaming the gpu and ssd is more important, if you are on a budget that is

    • Jugganautx on 07/08/2019 - 15:56

      Theyre talking about 1080+ bottlenecking

      1060 is pretty much midrange these days

    • Creamy on 07/08/2019 - 19:35

      idk… i had a i5 3470 and it couldn't play bf5 for shit, had it paired with a RX 470.

      And the i5 760 is 1st gen

  • [Deactivated] on 07/08/2019 - 15:55

    Is this better than the 369$ deal PC that Luke posted during the 10% off sale recently? Like what would be major differences? (I missed out on that one and waiting for another sub $400 deal but might pull trigger if worth it).
    Cheers fam.

    • frondono on 07/08/2019 - 16:14
      +1

      I don't think that one had a graphics card?

      • [Deactivated] on 07/08/2019 - 16:44

        Yeah it did i reckon, ryzen + standalone gpu

        • Unrvl on 07/08/2019 - 17:06
          +3

          pretty sure that was the onboard graphics, this will kill that.

  • frondono on 07/08/2019 - 16:10

    And I though TA was only the only OZB'er famous enough to have his name shortened. Hat's off to you BA, it looks like you've officially reached Legend Status.

  • bart2 on 07/08/2019 - 17:28

    If i upgrade to an rx 580, would the i3 be a bottleneck?

    • scuderiarmani on 07/08/2019 - 18:04

      I don't believe so. Unless you intend on running low settings on a very high refresh rate monitor which is unlikely…

      Here's a look with the 8100
      https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i3-8100/Radeon_RX_580/…

      • bart2 on 07/08/2019 - 18:06

        Neat. Thx, didnt know this website existed.

        • scuderiarmani on 07/08/2019 - 18:07

          Nor did I :)

          Didn't think it would, but wanted something to back it up.

          • Fergy1987 on 07/08/2019 - 18:59

            @scuderiarmani: Oh…I've been looking at an rx580 to go with my i5 4590 but apparently it's a 13% bottleneck and that's bad….570 only 2 %….Will probably still go the 58p lol

  • Regie69 on 07/08/2019 - 18:13

    This system good for fortnite?

    • bart2 on 07/08/2019 - 18:49

      Yes

      • wisc on 08/08/2019 - 11:50
        +1

        runs fine on a dell i7 3770 & 1050ti, the above system absolutely roasts the dell… so no problems at all.

    • greatlamp on 07/08/2019 - 20:32
      +4

      I think fortnite will run on a potato, so this should be pretty solid

      • [Deactivated] on 07/08/2019 - 23:40
        +1

        I believe this fries your CPU

  • idonotknowwhy on 07/08/2019 - 20:58

    $528 shipped.

    Looks a little less appealing when phrased this way.

    • StrayfireX on 07/08/2019 - 23:28

      Yeah I think it's a better way to write the price. Most honest :)

    • jsediv on 08/08/2019 - 11:57

      Still a bargain for what you get

  • TheManInDemand on 08/08/2019 - 09:02

    Would this run well on Fortnite's recommended settings and would it be sufficient for streaming on Twitch while playing?

    The Fortnite system requirements for the best performance:

    Core i5 2.8 GHz processor
    8GB of system RAM
    Nvidia GTX 660 or AMD Radeon HD 7870 equivalent DX11 GPU
    2 GB VRAM

    • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 08/08/2019 - 11:04

      Runs well enough on my 2200g and 570, should run fine on this. You'll have to adjust some settings mind (I had some stuttering before I did)

      • TheManInDemand on 08/08/2019 - 17:06

        What about streaming while playing? Is this system capable enough?

        • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 08/08/2019 - 20:54

          Ah, missed that. Wouldn't go below an r5 2600 for that.

          Not sure if there's currently any deals on a system with a 2600 though.

  • Pornboy69er on 08/08/2019 - 09:32

    How good would this system be for something like Witcher 3 on 1080p?

    I'm fine with 30 fps but will it be able to run high-very high?

  • Jason Black on 09/08/2019 - 14:29
    +1

    Recently read in the RACV Mag that there's a Not For Profit organization selling Refurb Laptops & Computers to Concession (low income, Student) for really good prices.
    https://www.computerbank.org.au/stocklist/

  • EffeXion on 09/08/2019 - 15:39

    Just ordered one. Said that it's got a i3 9100f but then I ordered it and it said it's sending me an i3 8100?

  • Teemo4Life on 09/08/2019 - 19:14

    You had a 2600 with a 570 for $30 extra. $260

    So this is objectively a bad deal in comparison

    • Dannywce on 11/08/2019 - 15:50

      yer I would like that 2600 570 deal to come back

  • I3IGN0sE on 20/08/2019 - 11:56

    Bought computer, turned on. plugged in vga monitor and no output to vga monitor. Solution? Would've thought vga default would've been normal if nothing else is connected.

    • Marketingluketechfast @ TechFast on 20/08/2019 - 12:35
      +1

      i3 9100F doesn't have integrated graphics so you'll need to connect the monitor to the GPU ports (lower down on the case).

      • I3IGN0sE on 20/08/2019 - 13:10

        Spectacular. Will stop trying to organise it with vga monitors at work and just take it home use a real monitor

  • I3IGN0sE on 23/08/2019 - 13:27

    Didn't realize I needed to source my own windows 10 copy

    also i needed to push the pins in on the heat sink, was rattling a bit until i pushed the lower two pins in.

    are new computers not sold with windows 10 copies now?

    • wisc on 26/08/2019 - 13:56

      at this price they aren't… I think they rely on people buying dodgy copies on eBay…

      • impoze on 29/08/2019 - 16:41
        +1

        haven't had any issues with the eBay W10 deals for a few dollars.

        Someone else from OzBargain put me on to them.

        • wisc on 02/09/2019 - 09:55

          they will be either VLK or MSDN keys, Im pretty sure this will be a volition of of the service agreement. So basically the same as getting a pirate copy of windows.

          probably better off just not installing it without a key and putting up with the nag screen.

  • drumrollplease on 18/09/2019 - 08:35

    Clicked on go to deal and tried to use the code? Doesn't work :s

    • Marketingluketechfast @ TechFast on 18/09/2019 - 11:18

      This has been expired for a while but hasn't been picked up. Will notify mods.

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