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Baccarat Damashiro Emperor Hisa 9 Piece Knife Block, $299 (RRP $1399) @ House (Online Only)

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ElDickeroni on 21/07/2019 - 08:40 house.com.au (2606 clicks)
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I bought this absolutely beautiful set of knives yesterday. The stand is very modern and looks much nicer than my old wooden block.

Currently available at a few places for $400 on sale, but House has an extra 25% off knives at the moment. Went in store to check them out and see how they felt, then told the attendant I’d been talking to that I was going to buy it online, click and collect, to get the extra 25% off. 5 minutes later I walked out with the set in my arms!

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Features

  • Premium quality Japanese steel
  • Hammered blades with Damascus inspired pattern
  • Sharpened to precise single bevel for optimal slicing power
  • Pakka wood handles mould to your hand for ultimate comfort
  • Stylish clear block with wooden frame artfully displays knives
  • Set includes 8 kitchen knives to suit all your needs
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  • Pikaloo on 21/07/2019 - 08:46

    isn't that their own brand?

    • mattman on 21/07/2019 - 08:52
      +17

      It is. So while the knives may still be a fair but at $299, the RRP is a complete load of BS

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 21/07/2019 - 09:01
    +1

    Holy moly dat RRP lmao

  • Daniel Plainview on 21/07/2019 - 09:07
    +22

    Quality is excellent, which is expected from a brand like Baccarat.
    A brand like Baccarat??? It's a house brand at best - so you make your post a bit silly implying it's some establish brand of excellence.

    $1400 RRP? Oh my, why not just say $10,000 or $1,000,000 - there is no way that ANYONE has EVER paid that for those knives. It's ridiculous that the maker/retailer claim such things.

    For a supposed high end knife there's very little info on the actual steel used in them - which is really unacceptable. Apparently it's actually quite a low end soft steel (HRC53), so not at all a premium Japanese knife steel at all.

    It's a fake hammered/damascus look - so no actually real on either on these - maybe it looks better in person but thats a lil tacky IMHO. I think you could buy better quality knives for that money (umpteen threads on this) but I'd imagine these would impress folks who just go on looks alone. Is a shame they didn't make a tad better as they could have had a decent product.

    • HeXa on 21/07/2019 - 11:26

      believe it is 420J2

      • Daniel Plainview on 21/07/2019 - 11:35
        +2

        I will have to take your word for it as such info isn't easily found - for such a price point it should be clearly stated - which to me says they're hiding it for a reason i.e it's pretty ordinary steel.

        Appreciate the info though.

  • burkey on 21/07/2019 - 09:07
    +7

    Fake Damascus, and an inflated base RRP. Places like House always have stupidly high base RRP's on all their knives, so that they look like everything is selling for a more reasonable price. Can guarantee no one has ever dropped $1400 on those.

    • dosada on 21/07/2019 - 09:40
      +7

      Do not underestimate human stupidity

  • garage sale on 21/07/2019 - 09:48
    +3

    Frequently I notice Japanese knife patterns using german alloy formulas which aren't as hard as Japanese formulas such as VG10 …..but then for most people german allow formulas being softer are also easier to sharpen.

    • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2019 - 11:31
      +1

      I tend to agree. (upped)
      I would also add that i have used these knives and find them to be excellent to amazing especially considering the price.
      I do agree that the RRP suggested is disheartening and surely assumes all shoppers have very low IQ's. Marketing people lolol.
      No offence to Global fans (to each his own). I'd take these over gbls every-single-time.
      As I've said before, take 200 random people who have owned Global knives for 2-5 years and ask them their opinion.

  • Zak on 21/07/2019 - 09:50

    Does this code work on any other knives?

    • momnobe on 21/07/2019 - 10:08

      Just tried on Global and doesn't work, showing - Only valid on Knives. Excludes Swiss Diamond & Global.

  • C0mbat on 21/07/2019 - 10:06
    +2

    What a load of rubbish that rrp is. Has anyone ever seen a baccarat knife for $200. You could get the same amount of Shun knives for that rrp.

    Either way, there is no way you need that many knives. A very good chefs knife plus a medium sized paring knife is all 99% of people will ever need. I've got a Shun chefs and paring knife and they are perfect for my needs. I also have a cheap bread knife.

    • seamonkey on 21/07/2019 - 13:24

      can you expand on the Shun. What to get (size/model) and what you should pay? ta

      • cheapsk8 on 21/07/2019 - 13:36
        +3

        Shun are usually very expensive. Just go to IKEA and get a Vardagen cook knife and a paring knife for a total of $30 (or 365+ for $40). They are x50CrMo15: the same steel as Wusthof knives and a bit more forgiving than Japanese steel (which can chip more easily due to the thinner blade).

      • C0mbat on 21/07/2019 - 16:14

        These are thr two knives that I have. You can get them on offer with a 20% discount code on eBay fairly frequently.

        https://www.victoriasbasement.com.au/Product/Details/106008?…

        If you need to stick to a budget then maybe the Ikea ones are the best bet. However, I've already had my knives for about 10 years and assume that I'll hav them for thr rest of my life. They are weighted perfectly and look stunning so I feel that they are worth it. Others might not. I certainly prefer the pakkawood handles to Global ones and they are lighter than most knives to.

      • tallmantim on 21/07/2019 - 17:50

        The key to a good experience with knives is not so much the knives, but making sure they are sharp.

        Invest in a cheap whetstone - 300 grit one side, ~1000 on the other. Watch a youtube on how to sharpen your knives.

        Then the Ikea ones below will be 10x better than most expensive ones people have in their kitchen - because most people don't sharpen their knives often enough.

      • DmytroP on 21/07/2019 - 23:23

        Another place to buy interesting knives from Japan https://japanesechefsknife.com/

        Have one knife from them and quite happy with. With HRc64 it holds the edge way better than any other knife I have.

  • madreece on 21/07/2019 - 10:15

    $1399, I needed a good laugh to start my Sunday.

  • Strych on 21/07/2019 - 10:17
    +2

    These knives will be great…for a month or so, then you'll realise the steel is low quality and soft as hell. You'll be constantly battling with these knives to try and keep them sharp.
    For $299 anyone would be much better off with a smaller set of Jap knives with decent steel. A set of Globals can be picked up for less than $300.

  • pavlos on 21/07/2019 - 10:40

    Baccarat, second only to house brands such as Vue…

    • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2019 - 11:59

      At the cheaper end yes. Their higher end knives on the other hand can be surprisingly good and even great.
      Same with Wiltshire and even Scanpan. Their cheap knives are garbage.
      Weirdest phenomenon ever with knife brands though… the notoriously cheap 'Kiwi' brand knives…
      Sharpen up like absolutely hell, but of course they are quite thin and the edge doesn't last a terribly long time.
      Still, good back up system knives. A good knife for anyone that is happy to spend time each week keeping sharp. Though regular edge maintenance should be effected on all knives really. I think the average person is more likely to 'dullen' a knife than sharpen IRL.

  • ruddiger7 on 21/07/2019 - 10:49
    +3

    Bought a range of Victornox knives the other week for similar price that would leave these for dead.

    • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2019 - 12:02

      Great knives the Vics'. Not ridiculously sharp or fussy to create a good edge. A 'forgiving' knife as it is more likely to bounce off of a floor than snap at the tip or completely in half the way super hard knives will. A great 'all rounder' good for both domestic and commercial use IMO.

  • feisty on 21/07/2019 - 10:49

    Not even sure I would consider them at $29.99

    • Jamesx on 21/07/2019 - 13:54

      One of this was $18.75 C&C yesterday.

  • numnut on 21/07/2019 - 10:55

    I believe these are made in China? I would prefer global or shun personally. They are made in Japan. (And a a lot of people say global is bad)

    The store near my house is always on closing down sale (like most stores I see). After 2 years they did close down but then after one month they were back again….

    • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2019 - 13:32

      The House store at Parramatta Westfield is perpetually closing and reopening, closing and reopening.

      And their closing down prices are still crap. So why would I buy something when they reopen???

  • OzBragain on 21/07/2019 - 10:59
    +3

    $300 for a set of Chinese fake Damascus knives. Where's the bargain?

    Guess the next question is how many home users would benefit from an 8 knife set? Much better off buying a few knives that are comfortable for you and learn how to maintain them.

  • chumlee on 21/07/2019 - 11:16
    +2

    I only buy knifes recommended by our federal politicians as they are sharp and do the job

    • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2019 - 12:52
      -3

      *knives. If you’re going to try and be witty, at least proof read

      • chumlee on 21/07/2019 - 15:12
        -1

        Sorry mum.

        Autocorrect did it

  • Salmando on 21/07/2019 - 11:29

    My previous housemate had a set of baccarat everything. The pans and such were quite solid, seemed excellent for the price he paid.
    Got a 7 knife block too - they weren't bad. Good weight, good feel. Definitely a softer metal, but lasted well enough and I personally enjoy sharpening them (easy compared to many others)

    For $300? Not a chance. Pick up some globals on special for that. Much better in all regards，and can be sharpened better than most other high ranked 粑粑 无需马克思列宁主义。。。 委托方？

    忽然。。。。 ？？

  • TEER3X on 21/07/2019 - 12:39
    +1

    I reckon you could get a much better set of knives for less than this.

    Why would you pay a premium for a stamped Damascus pattern?

    Every other place has them for $400, so that looks like the regular price. $100 off is pretty good I guess.

  • abuch47 on 21/07/2019 - 12:39

    I got my Furi set for $250 only 5 knives probably not great steel so needs sharpening fortnightly but the quick sharpener gets it good enough very quickly.

    Only thing Id like is a cleaver for getting through some root vegies as the chefs knife weight isnt that great.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2019 - 13:24

    Bullshit RRP, have heard many reviews from people stating these knives rust really quickly if not wiped immediately after washing. Definitely not worth the price tag, let alone the RRP.

  • ElDickeroni on 21/07/2019 - 15:02
    +2

    Good to see all the knife elitists have come out of the woodwork.

    I liked the look of this set. They were reduced to a price that I was more than happy to pay, and I shared it because that’s how communities like this work. If they dull I’ll sharpen them. If they suck ass, I’ll use the set of global knives I already had and these will sit on my shelf and look nice.

    Last time I checked, you don’t hand out negs because an RRP is bullshit - I didn’t think I had to point out that RRP is a crock of shit - any OzB user should know that. “The deal is not the cheapest available”, “Defective product” or “Major issues with retailer” are reasons to hand out negs. This product may not be have been forged by Hattori Hanzō, but they never claim to have been.

    I’m cutting food, not performing surgery.

    • OzBragain on 21/07/2019 - 15:28
      +2

      Good to see all the knife elitists have come out of the woodwork.

      I liked the look of this set

      I’m cutting food, not performing surgery.

      Why spend $300 on a set of 8 low end knives that look pretty but are unlikely to last and will likely only use 3 of them regularly? Could spend the same (or a little more) on better quality that will be comfortable to use and last a lifetime.

      Kitchen knives are tools and don't need to look pretty…different story if you like collecting quality tools but I don't think these qualify.

      Try not to take the comments personally champ…these just a crappy "mutton dressed as lamb" knife set.

  • TEER3X on 21/07/2019 - 21:14
    +1

    OP has a point. These are made to look pretty. I would buy them just for that.

    I cook everyday, but usually just one meal a day. I get buy with semi decent knives, most people don't need the commercial quality stuff.

    If you work in a kitchen, then yeah, get something else.

    The best knife I own is a victoronix. I take it out for special occasions, like when I have to cut onions.

    • OzBragain on 21/07/2019 - 23:02

      OP has a point. These are made to look pretty. I would buy them just for that.

      2min search shows similar money can get you 67 layer set with VG10 core

      Etched Damascus look alike can be had for half the "sale" price. Quoted RRP of $1400 for these is a joke.

      Personally I find these ugly. If you think they're pretty and prefer the look over function when you're preparing meals then go for it.

      • TEER3X on 22/07/2019 - 12:37

        nice knives, but only 5 of them and no display case.

        serious question though, which is better, samurai steel or valyrian steel?

        • OzBragain on 22/07/2019 - 13:27

          Serious question, what are you going to do with an 8 knife set that you can't do with 5?

          If you like the idea of overpriced low quality knives they go grab the Baccarat set champ.

          I would suggest that whatever knives you have you learn how to both sharpen and hone them. Edge Pro knock off or Minosharp are both good enough if you can't be bothered with stones but stay away from carbide pull through sharpeners. Don't clean in the dishwasher or store loose in a drawer. Sharp edge makes all the difference in the world and is easy to keep if you maintain it regularly.

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