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TCL 65P6US 65" 4K QUHD Android Smart TV - $890.10 Delivered To NSW (Other States Vary) @ Powerlandau eBay
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Mortgagetightass on 03/07/2019 - 23:17 ebay.com.au (575 clicks)
Last edited 04/07/2019 - 17:58 by 2 other users
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Ouch.
Though samsung isnt much better on some models.Sony is, though.
Seems to be the new norm. If the TV runs a full operating system, there will be a boot up time.
Isnt that from power off at the switch like most smart tvs? Normal power off and back on should be quick.
Like turning your phone off by tapping the power switch vs holding the power switch and selecting turn off/shut down. Takes a while for your phone to book from a full power off as well.
You would think so, but we have some Android TV's at work and even resuming from standby it's still a massively long boot up time. From memory it was about 40 seconds….these were brand new too, after some use and apps I can only see it getting worse
I have this TV (got for $750 :P ) and yest he boot up time is about 10-15 seconds.
You obviously have the old firmware installed. The new firmware, it's 3x that!
TV did an update a few months ago, so I'm assuming it's the newest firmware
@Danstar: Ok, yeah, I'd imagine you have it then. Android 8.0.0.
Edit: just called TCL, they acknowledged some updated TVs have issues, some don't. Essentially the latest firmware has disabled the fast start feature on some panels (even though it is switched on).
Yep at least i reckon, I have the 65P20US.
Really? 30 second… That's too long.
it's 40sec with mine!! There is a fast boot setting which is supposed to cut boot time to 5ish secs but that has never worked properly - despite firmware updates.
TV also likes to turn itself on.
These are known problems by TCL but they still have not fixed. Some TVs are affected, others aren't; it's a gamble you take.
I have had this exact tv for a while now. While it is a great TV especially for this price the boot up times are quite slow. Was much quicker on the older firmware with the quick boot option enabled but ever since the new update came out about a month ago this no longer seems to work.
Ditto, I own this TV, whilst it is a great TV the latest firmware has been a very retrograde step.
In "fast start mode" under the old firmware, the TV would start in around 20 seconds. The new firmware it's 50 seconds. :(
I've called TCL, and they have emailed me a link to a newer firmware that will fix this issue.
Can i have the link too? My kids get very annoyed waiting around a minute just for the tv to start.
My TV is the 55" version, in an abundance of caution, it's probably worth calling TCL to ensure it's the same firmware if you have the 65".
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ktpwofnd7qwg5z3/Update_V8-T658T01-…
I've updated the TV (which results in everything being reset to factory). The TV now comes on instantly, almost too fast, Like 1 second, which makes me think this mode must be using far more power than the usual "fast startup" from the old firmware. I'll connect it to my power meter tonight.
@ash2000: Yeah probably is draining more power but as long as it stops 2 whinging kids then I'm with fine with it lol
@ash2000: How often are you people turning on and off your TV and to the point where 20 seconds is draining you?
FWP
@Danstar: It's 50 seconds, not 20 seconds.
For me, it's less about the time, and more about it not working to spec which is a bugbear.
@ash2000: Yeah the boot up time is a huge difference and issue when your young kids are constantly turning the tv on and off all day. I called and spoke to TCL your link is the same one they sent me. They said they have the same 65p6us tv in their office and it also had the same issue after the auto update so they knew exactly what I was talking about.
@ash2000: Hahaha yeah, even tho I still do miss my old Rank Arena 63cm CRT with its twin dial controls and woodgrain looks.
@ash2000: Thanks for doing that.
How much did you get your 55" version for if you don't mind me asking?
I'm not really looking for a 65", but at this price it's hard to resist
@TEER3X: I paid about $880 for my 55", but it was 10 months ago during an ebay 20% off sale. The 65" was about $500 more expensive at the time.
I want my MTV. INSTANTLY.
Why? Daria's finished.
It's not $890 delivered?
I have this TV (got for $750 :P ) and yest he boot up time is about 10-15 seconds.
The menus are a bit slow too, about 1-2 second lag.
But it is better quality then the Samsung Nu7100 I bought few months prior.
Even my son who is all about the 4K detailing, says the TCL looks more vibrant then his Samsung (the Nu7100) which is connected via his PS4 Pro vs. the TCL which is connected to a Xbox One S
@Danstar how'd/when did you get it for $750!
Sorry. $760 and P4 model. Swear it said P6 on box when I bought it. Regardless, this would be slightly better than my model
Can you edit your original comment, I'm sure others on here are like me and won't buy if someone else found it much cheaper
That said, I'm glad you got a different model and still like it a lot.
TCL are great bang for the buck
How does the remote/speed compare? Is the Samsung laggy?
Samsung is very smooth and quick. The smart features look and feel a little more friendly, but otherwise exactly the same. I prefer the quality on the TCL
How do they get away with labeling something hdr premium when it's an 8 bit panel?
Tcl do make some great TVs, just want to hear about hdr performance of this one
It's a 10bit panel.
I hope you're right, got a link?
GGs says it's 8-bit
https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/tcl-65-inches164cm-uhd-led-lc…A sloppy cut and paste by good guys.
Any link but the good guys says HDR10!
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-optus-au&ei=…
As soon as I feed it content via my shield it pops up saying HDR10 and the difference is night and day.
@ash2000: Yeah same thing pops up when I use my Xbox One X on the tv for certain games and 4k movies too
@ash2000: Hdr10 doesn't mean 10-bit panel
I'm pretty sure this TV is 8-bit so it won't look good as a 10-bit panel doing hdr (all other things equal)
@TEER3X: You can't advertise HDR10 and HDR premium all over the promo materials, all over the specs and include an 8 bit panel! LOL
Perhaps you can add it to this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories ?
@ash2000: Can you show me anywhere that says it's a 10-bit panel?
Folks over at whirlpool also say it's an 8-bit panel.
Since I just ordered the tv, I would be extremely happy to be proven wrong
@TEER3X: You won't likly see the phrase "10bit panel" as this isn't often phrased that way.
It may be that the p6 2017 model wasn't 10bit.
This TV is UHD Premium certified. You can't get get certified if your screen doesn't have a colour depth of at least 10bit.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.whathifi.com/amp/advice/ult…
@ash2000: You can get certified if your TV accepts a 10 bit signal. The tcl tv almost certainly uses an 8-bit panel and does 10 bit via dithering, ie it's an 8-bit panel + FRC.
It probably still does a very good job of showing hdr content though
I guess I'll find out when I get it. Coming from a b7 oled that I had to sell when I moved. Obviously not fair to compare them, but I will anyway.
@TEER3X: Ok, report back once you get it. I find the difference between this panel and my non hdr panel quite profound.
@ash2000: Got it yesterday. The pq is very very good, sharp and punchy. Good black levels too surprisingly. I'm very impressed and I've owned a b7a OLED before.
I've tested 4k uhd discs and hd fta stuff only, and everything looks great. I updated the firmware to May-2019 and also set HDMI 2.0 to on.
The TV gets all the checkmarks under "4k details" within the Xbox (except for Dolby vision of course).
The only let down is HDR. It appears like it doesn't do anything. The TV shows an hdr icon when playing an hdr disc, but I don't find any difference in the picture quality or the brightness or contrast of any scenes.
There is a discussion on Whirlpool where it was suggested turning hdr off and it actually looks better. The idea was that the TV is taking an hdr signal and downsampling it to sdr. Not sure how true this is as I just got the TV and haven't had a chance to test it fully.
Overall, I'm very happy with the purchase. It's my 2nd TCL TV and I've had a good experience with them in the past.
@TEER3X: Thanks for the follow up. Glad to hear it's reasonable quality compared to oled.
Thats odd re. your hdr experience. I play all my content via my Sheild TV, so when watching hdr content on Netflix the difference to my eyes is very obvious. Even more impressive than watching 4k content without hdr.
How have you found the start up times?
I’ve got this TV and can confirm it turns on almost instantly when you have the quick power up mode on. It also just got an update which does feel and look nicer to use. And I just got the “premium remote” which is awesome.
On a side note. I killed the TV with a setting I was playing around with and called TCL and had it fixed within 30 mins. They emailed me the android install file. Put it on USB and fixed it myself. Amazing service. Great TV.What's the premium remote?
I got a long, thin plastic one (that's what she said) with a Netflix button on the bottom.
Not a big fan of the Android system, though it might be the TV's cpu, it's too slow for me. O had an LG with WebOS and it was much quicker and much more polished. I'm sure it will get better though.
Can this be Google/nest/home whatever compatible?
It can do most of the google assistance features. Not sure if all.
TCL warranty is no good, they just keep fobing me off with my dead pixels.
Powerlandau should state how much power this TV uses (If they cannot list that, then they should change their name).
I thought it was a legal requirement.
According to the appliancesonline website its rated as 6 stars and 291kWh/annum.
$134.40 delivery to Perth metro.
Yet thats what i said its not $890 delivered well for us anyway.
Postage: AU $247.50 to Port Hedland
my xiao mi tv boot time is around 1 minute and I agree this sometimes makes me feel frustrated. However, I guess if you don't switch on/off too often, this shouldn't be a big problem ( i can live with it). To me, the tv system is far more important as I'm always sceptical in how far those inhouse systems can go : yes you can build your own Youtube and stan, but what about ABC Iview, 7 Channels, ABC Kids and so many other apps? having an android tv means you have access to an apps ocean comparing to those inhouse built app pools
Purchased this item from Powerlandau almost a week ago. Item hasn't been delivered. Tried to clarify wit the seller the delivery date sent few emails all remains unanswered. Very unhappy with the seller.
did you get it yet? I got mine today. it seems pretty amazing for the price in terms of PQ.
HDR doesn't seem to work right out of the box on my xbox one so I'll have to tinker with it.
4k UHD discs look amazing.
I use mine in Sports mode and turn off those “advanced” motion settings
I think that model is a budget tv, even though it's newer. Rrp is much lower too.
30 second boot up time according to one of the eBay reviewers 😬