Tesla have released a limited number of Model S inventory vehicles
Eg QLD Pricing:
Model S 75D in pearl white $106,307 Drive Away
The same car (now called the Model S Standard Range) with the same specs comes to $134,677
This represents a 21% or $28,370 saving!
I can’t remember how much the 75D was prior to the price drop in March this year but the prices are definitely heading in the right direction!
Referee gets $1400 off Model Y & 3 purchase.
Referrer gets $700 credit toward Supercharging, software upgrades, merchandise, service payments or a new vehicle. Limit of 10 referral benefits per calendar year.
Totally legal. Use it all the time. It’s excellent.
Define a ‘real car’ and it’s price then we’ll see if it’s half. Lol, you’re a troll.
i30
Lol. U win.
Lol.
i30N - there fixed it
IMO Electric cars should be less than half price of a real car, as they're not as useful range or versatility wise. Oz isn't set up for them, they're more a toy for immature people I personally believe.
I see electric chargers in most major shopping malls and the like. Given the range is 500-600k, so for most folks, EVs absolutely suit all their needs. My ICE vehicle does about 550K on a full tank, which is approx the range of these.
I'm going to hazard a guess and say you're a tradie (a sparky most likely) and as a result have a differing set of needs which is fair enough. For the vast majority of Australians driving around suburbia or the city, electric vehicles are absolutely perfect.
Where does one charge these apart from home?
Eneloops? Xiaomi battery banks?
It’s got a weeks worth of around town range and ~380-400km on a freeway. Superchargers are every 200km between Adelaide and Noosa.
Other people's houses - any unguarded PowerPoint is free game
Waiting for them to to be free with a Spotify subscription.
Or wait until they go full-autopilot.
Then we may have Tesla bargains worldwide. In three years Model S $10000?
Except this car and all produced since late 2016 are full self driving compatible
Yeh I think you'll find it's the inverse, where the cars might hold their price because they are now able to generate revenue from their Robotaxi activities.
Though seems more likely that Tesla will reduce the fees to beat out Uber and Lyft making sure you aren't accounting for wear and tear - since they don't own and don't have to maintain the cars.
It just launches M3 RHD in UK starting at £38,000
https://electrek.co/2019/05/01/tesla-model-3-rhd-uk/
And it should be landing here down under soon.
Does it take eneloops?
Why would any ozbagainer buy this?
Save on petrol costs.
Paying $25,000 for a replacement battery pack in 10-15 years, negates this I expect.
Besides many cars get around 5 litres per 100km (Swift, Barina, Gets and many more). Tesla will likely cost the equivalent of about 4.5 litres per 100km, in charge cost. Not a bargain.
EDIT after checking Tesla Supercharging prices:
As of 22/1/2019 price hike, Supercharging will cost $0.42 per kWh in Australia. Huge hike in US too.
So a 75kwh battery charge costs ~$40 (assuming 80% charging efficiency) for say 400km.
So $10 /100km, nearly as much as my 22ft deisel motorhome.
So NEARLY DOUBLY THE ENERGY/FUEL COST of an economical petrol car.
Except you get free supercharging credits through referrals. And no one who buys car is planning on keeping it for 15 years and even if you double average mileage, and do 300,000km in 15 years, there’s no way your battery will have degraded enough to warrant replacement. It will still be well over 80% capacity, but probably over 90%.
@[Deactivated]: In addition to what Burnertoasty said, you likely won't be supercharging every day. Supercharging is for quick turnarounds.
Also you're comparing a luxury car to the ultra-budget segment ICE vehicles.
Faster 0-100 than any car in its price range. Novelty of autopilot and response of electric engines.
To save 3.5k pa in fuel expenses ,although they forgot about the 20 k pa in depreciation :)
Fuel saving isn't the only reason for buying an EV. There's the huge enjoyment factor: smooth, quiet drive, no need to queue for fuel every week, no need for servicing every six months, reliability. Engine doesn't degrade each time you drive it. 30 years later the car will feel as quiet and smooth as the day you bought it.
Maybe you forgot all vehicles depreciate, especially high end/luxury models, not just electric ones.
Teslas are expensive because of the development cost of new technology. I won't be buying one until they hit $50K mark for mid luxury model. Elon said it himself, the prices are going to go down as they approach economies of scale.
That’s about 3 months away then. Better start saving. You’re delusional about $50k though, it’s not like BMW is going to lower the 3 series price to $50k. But $60k, sure.
I got someone 0KM X3 20i For $53,750 with Pano Roof and few extras a couple of years ago (change of generation time). But BMW is an luxury brand. Tesla wants to be a mass producer and save the world with electric cars for everyone. They are positioned temporarily as a luxury brand. Give it 10 years you will be comparing between a VW jetta, Toyota Corolla or a Tesla Model *. They are positioned where they are positioned because of the tech cost and early adopters like to pay more.
You’ve clearly never sat in a Model S. It’s much more luxurious than an X3 for example, a car by a ‘luxury’ manufacturer like BMW, with their luxury 116i and 316i.
@[Deactivated]: Yes I have sat in one. I didn't say I expect this specific car for $50,000. I said I won't buy until Tesla hit $50K price point. Model 3 will be $60K its already hit $50K in our money in the USA. There will be a full sized Tesla sedan for $50K after 5 years or 10 years at the latest.
i wonder if you can buy one for 106k then straight away sell it for 130k as a middle man and then making 24k profit.
Make sure your home has 3 phase power to charge the car, otherwise it will cost another few grand to have that set up.
You don’t need three phase at home. Single phase is fine for around town driving. Just top it up every few days.
Sounds like fun.
Its more fun than going to a petrol station
Does anyone even buy these or just upvote it?
Are you implying that we should only upvote deals that we purchase? Why can't I upvote based on the value of the deal?
Same question. Sounds like a flashmob.
your reason for negging the deal is what exactly?
Please read the site guidelines before voting on a deal!
It's not a deal if nobody buys it, what's your reason for upvoting?
@Wilder94: Do you see an upvote next to my name?
You can't just vote negative because you think no one will buy it. That's not how the voting works.
There's a No Vote option if the deal doesn't apply to you
@A Banana4scale: So I can downvote those stupid McDonald's "hack" ones for that exact reason but i do it on a car that has even less chance of anyone doing and everybody loses their minds.
i wonder if you can buy one for 106k then straight away sell it for 130k as a middle man and then making 24k profit.
Lol , @ there is some professor's here :)
How do these go outside of the warranty period?
Oh they don't?
Youtube it. Some interesting stories there.
How many 18650s can I extract from this car?
Assuming it's a 75kWh pack and not a larger one software lmiited - looks like 444 per module x 14 modules = 6,216.
If you have no use for the rest of the car - that's about $17 per cell - not bad.
It’s not software limited
Maybe zero. It might contain 2170 batteries not 18650
It doesn’t. 10 seconds on google would have answered that.
Tried to get one but it was ozbargained!
Potential for a nice Uber/hire car business. No fuel costs, free charging at Tesla.
Pretty sure anyone who can afford this makes more per hour than an uber driver
Free charging doesn't apply to people using for business.
Cracker of a deal!
Bought 6
Thanks OP
I thought Ozbargain didn't allow posting items without sufficient quantity.
There is only 'limited' number of these electric cars in all of Australia, and it's old stock, I guess display or demo. Have mods checked quantity for policy breach?
The policy states that moderators may, at their discretion, allow deals to stay if they are potentially useful to the community.
Given the amount of money that stands to be saved here, I'm guessing it's been allowed to live, just as my deal was :)
I don't see it sell out like most other deals!
Thx OP, Picked up 3 on my way to train station
Been in Dallas for business and sat in one of their Model 3's today. It's much nicer than I thought it would be.
Yep, most people hating have never been in a Tesla.
I was going to buy one but it’s a pity it only comes in pearl white which is easy to get dirty. I wouldn’t want to waste my money on washing the car so often.
If I told you they had other colors would you actually buy one?…
Can afford $100k car but don't want to wash it for $20. Interesting logic.
I'm waiting for the Roadster. I hear a prototype hit 0-1000 in 55 seconds.
0-1000!!!
Piloted by Starman. Reached the 100,000 mile warranty limit in half a day. geddit???
Tesla, lol.
Consumer Reports, which has a complicated relationship with Tesla, says it can no longer recommend the Model 3 because issues with the paint, trim and body hardware raises reliability questions.
The question of reliability has persisted for all of Tesla’s vehicles. CR doesn’t recommend the Model X or Model S either due to reliability issues. The Tesla Model X was included in CR’s top 10 least reliable vehicles list for 2019.
The CR survey revealed problems with the suspension, particularly in the 2017 Model S and hardware issues in the Model X. Owners in the survey cited numerous reliability problems with the Model 3.
Yet owner satisfaction is unparalleled in all surveys. Tesla’s do have their quirks, but drive train reliability isn’t one of them. The current motors/batteries just don’t break down. The Model S suspension complaints you’re talking about were found to be a shorter who was reporting Tesla’s repeatedly to CR to sway the numbers, despite not owning a Model S.
"unparalleled in all surveys."
lol.
1) Holden tied with Mazda at the top of the prestigious JD Power 2018 Australia Sales Satisfaction Index (SSI) Study with a score of 822 from a 1000-point scale
2) American Customer Satisfaction Index (ACSI) - Lexus has been one of the top five car brands since 2011, according to the number crunchers at 24/7 Wall Street who analyzed the 2018 survey. This year, its score was 85, down from 86 last year and placing it in a tie (for 1st) with Volvo.
3) Australian Consumer Satisfaction Index - 2018 Mazda
JD Power
lol
I would rather get a hybrid now for a fraction of the cost, and consider full electric in a few years when it's more reasonable. I guess this is a good price comparative to its RRP, but c'mon, this isn't a good deal when compared to other options on the market..
It was a good deal at full retail compared to its conception. It was $150k, an equivalent Mercedes CLS would be more like $180-200k, and still be slower.
WTF is with Ozbargainers upvoting Tesla deals ?
Is it a useful bargain though ?
Settle down Singh……just because its not a useful deal for you, doesn't mean it won't be for someone else who might be interested
Singh is King
Using a Supercharger in Australia, after Tesla's 2019 USA and Australia massive Supercharger price hike, is a shocker.
As of 22/1/2019 price hike, Supercharging will cost $0.42 per kWh in Australia. Huge hike in US too.
So a 75kwh battery charge costs ~$40 (assuming 80% charging efficiency) for say 400km.
So $10 /100km, nearly as much as my 22ft deisel motorhome.
So NEARLY DOUBLY THE ENERGY/FUEL COST of an economical petrol car.
So NEARLY DOUBLY THE ENERGY/FUEL COST of an economical petrol car.
So NEARLY DOUBLY THE ENERGY/FUEL COST of an economical petrol car.
So NEARLY DOUBLY THE ENERGY/FUEL COST of an economical petrol car.
Also battery efficiency and capacity degrades over time as anyone with a mobile phone knows.
Very incorrect. The battery chemistry of a phone is completely different to a car's battery make-up. Teslas have been on the road for quite a bit now and there's some good crowd-sourced data on battery life expectations based on the charge cycles. https://www.teslarati.com/how-long-will-tesla-battery-last-d…
A petrol engine also degrades each time you take it for a spin. From experience after about 100k it no longer feel like a new car (hesitation, rough idling), and there's nothing you can do to bring back that new car feeling. You cannot go a buy a new engine. EV on the other hand, one can replace the battery. It will drive as quiet and smooth as the day you bought it 30 years and more later.
Please supply facts.
There are plenty of factual and real world evidence out there regarding the battery life exceeding expectations.
https://electrek.co/2018/04/14/tesla-battery-degradation-dat…
It's not only impractical but completely unfeasible to use supercharging as a primary means of charging the car. The supercharger network would only be used typically in long distance travel. Most charging would typically be done at home.
If people want overnight charging at home, they will need three phase. Most people's homes and the whole grid would need to be massively upgraded. This at a time where they're shutting down coal capacity. A crazy dream at this stage.
Most Australians don't have a daily commute of more than 100km, so 32A charging at 7.4kW from a single phase circuit at home, using the supplied wall connector would be more than enough. 10 hours of charging would yield 74kWh of energy back into the car's battery. At the rated economy, that's good for a 370km daily commute. For most people who commute < 100km per day, charging at 2kW for 10hours would be enough. That's not any more than the heating or cooling that most people already use at home.
@pathacks: OK for 32A at 240volts you will need dedicated wiring installed as normal outlets are rated at 10A, or 15A for heavy duty. `
10 hours at 32A is a heck of a lot. Around 800 lights or 4 decent size air con units. In hot weather the grid is already close to breaking point. Have you noticed they plead to switch off uneccessary appliances in a heat wave? You want this capacity times 4 or doubling at least? Air cons switch on and off via thermostat. Chargers go at full whack until charged.
@trevor99: Yes, there is a one-time setup involved to get a new dedicated circuit installed for the car. Consider this as an upfront cost.
Again, not many people will be charging their car at a sustained full draw for 10 hours on a 32A circuit. I'd love to give you numbers, but the % of people who will even have EVs, let alone use them for daily commutes over 300km will be very insignificant. The grid isn't going to suddenly fall over. Given that charging is already easily scheduled for certain times, there are plenty of ways to intelligently spread load even if we were constrained by instantaneous output.
@pathacks: "but the % of people who will even have EVs" correct :) However there is a problem with some politicians and others claiming the opposite.
"The grid isn't going to suddenly fall over." It has already in SA and been close in Vic.
@trevor99: Well the same could be said about the state of congestion on our roads in Sydney, but that isn't going to stop people from driving somewhere they need to go! The appeal behind EVs is compelling and relentless, not dissimilar to the appeal of sitting in traffic for an hour vs riding a bike for an hour. Just as we are slowly finding more intelligent solutions for road congestion, we'll no doubt find something to manage increasing grid demand. It shouldn't be a reason to stop yourself from having a better experience :) (money permitting, of course).
So just to confirm, a large luxury sedan capable of 0-100km/hr in 4.4 seconds, charged solely at a supercharger which no one will ever do, is nearly double the energy/fuel cost of a Hyundai Getz to drive 100km? Also, nice work on getting your 22ft motorhome down to 6.6lt of diesel per 100 km, there must have been a nice tail wind coming down Thredbo that day.
So just to confirm, a large luxury sedan capable of 0-100km/hr in 4.4 seconds, charged solely at a supercharger which no one will ever do, is nearly double the energy/fuel cost of a Hyundai Getz to drive 100km?
Yes, but even charging off home power will cost around 34c p/kwh, rather than ~49c p/kwh at SC. Given 80% charging efficiency. It's not real to think of Teslas' cars as cheap to run. I guess it's a big LIE/CON.
Toyota 3 ton 3B deisel bus gets 11.5L/100km on highway. I suggested the tesla costs almost as much to run as my bus.
People seem to believe electric vehicle are cheap and fantastic. I've had two electric vehicles and charging is an unwanted, lengthy chore people should price in. As well as a loss of range and flexibilty.
The planet won't be saved by tesla. Musk will continue to feed people what people want to hear/pay for, and Tesla's Musk might be in prison in 10 years, like the Theron con woman should be and so many others. Or out of business is at least likely.
New 21st Century Formula:
Tesla buyers' IQ = Bitcoin buyers' IQ = Social Media users IQ.
Price of charging is much lower than that if you charge during off peak hours, even less/free if you complement with a solar and storage system.
Home charging is lengthy, sure - but the intention is you charge it while you're asleep much like your phone. There's minimal disruption for day to day use.
Tesla could be today's De Lorean …. good chance the brand may not be around in the next 3 -5 years , it's currently bleeding money , and you've got an oddball like Musk at the helm .
Production will eventually cease , and the technology will be sold to major player such as Toyota , GM or Ford.
I know the capability is there but if you have AP, is it actually legal to use right now though? Or will cops still fine you if they see you with hands off the wheel?