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[Refurbished] MS Surface Pro 3 (i5, SSD 128GB, 4GB, Keyboard) $489 Delivered @ Kogan

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[Refurbished] MS Surface Pro 3 (i5, SSD 128GB, 4GB, Keyboard) $489 Delivered @ Kogan
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ShouldIBuyIt on 10/03/2019 - 20:32 kogan.com (1160 clicks)

Not sure if it's a good deal. What do you think?
Cheaper than a surface go 64Gb, and more Powerful although older too.

1 x Tablet
1 x Keyboard
1 x Charger

FEATURES

Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Tablet
Processor: Intel Core i5 4300u
DisplayScreen: 12 ClearType Full HD Plus
Resolution: 2160 × 1440
Aspect Ratio: 3:2
Touch: Multi-touch input
Processor Speed: 1.90Ghz
Storage: 128 Gb
Storage Type: Solid State Drive
Memory: 4Gb
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4400
Front Webcam
Video Output: Mini Display Port
Wireless: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac – Bluetooth®4.0 Low Energy technology
Ports: Full-size USB 3.0 microSD™ card reader – Headset jack – Mini Display Port – Cover port
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro
Dimensions: 7.93in x 11.5in x 0.36in
Weight: 1.78 lbs

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  • bhunter101 on 10/03/2019 - 20:35

    Probs too old. I wouldn’t get pro 3 in 2019

    • b2dz on 10/03/2019 - 20:43
      +13

      The problem, with all of these devices, is the battery.

      Ive had my SP3 for ~4 years and I upgraded to a surface laptop about 12 mths ago. The battery on it just doesn't last anymore, and you can't replace it. I doubt Kogan are doing anything other than a fresh install and maybe cleaning the case, as they are impossible to service without breaking.

      This means the battery is likely 3-4 years old. How many cycles? Who knows. I wouldn't buy this, not because of the performance which is "ok" though 4gb is a bit crap, but because of the battery.

      • jv on 10/03/2019 - 20:56
        +2

        The problem, with all of these devices, is the battery.

        I got an i7 8Gb one for $400 a about 3 months ago and the battery lasts about 2.5 hours.

        • The Hobo on 10/03/2019 - 21:30
          +1

          Great price, where was the from

        • b2dz on 10/03/2019 - 21:40

          I have an i7 8gb as well. When I first got it, it would last 4-5 hours. Now I'm lucky to get 1.

          • jv on 10/03/2019 - 21:43

            @b2dz: Got it for one of my kids to use for school… They only need it for 1-2hrs per day max…

            Shame they didn't make the batteries easy to replace.

            • ShouldIBuyIt on 10/03/2019 - 22:14

              @jv: Got a surface 3 2nd hand and it lasts for 4-5h. I guess the pro version sucks up energy

      • denserham on 11/03/2019 - 13:50

        I had my surface pro 2 replaced a few times under warranty so the battery in mine should be fresher then you would think and for awhile it has only been able to work when plugged in.

        And I know the surface pro 2 is old by now but I had so many hardware problems with it not to mention Microsoft pushing a firmware update that broke a bunch of stuff and then going on Christmas holiday right after I bought it.

        • b2dz on 11/03/2019 - 14:12

          I wouldn't really recommend any of these devices unless you only expect to get ~3 years out of them.

          Not worth it otherwise.

  • Silvershark on 10/03/2019 - 20:38
    +2

    not enough RAM

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 10/03/2019 - 20:39

    Still rocking my launch day spro 3. Great device. Bought a high end metabox gaming laptop, but prefer this for day to day.

  • solidussnake on 10/03/2019 - 20:41
    +4

    Refurb and Kogan… yeah nah

  • Kerjifire on 10/03/2019 - 20:42
    +3

    I wouldn't recommend it personally. I've got this model and it just can't keep up now.

    Slow, takes forever to charge.

  • bigjobme860 on 10/03/2019 - 20:55
    +4

    I have an S3pro with 8GB ram and it's wonderful, but 4GB is too little. Also, battery life on these older refurb units would be a worry. My S3pro used to last 8 hours on a charge, now lasts only 1.5 hours. Doubt they replace the battery on these when they're refurbished…

  • bchliu on 10/03/2019 - 21:04

    RAM isn't upgradeable as with everything else inside. Don't get it.

  • igoforthebest on 10/03/2019 - 21:12

    Doesn’t include pen so that would be extra

    • jv on 10/03/2019 - 21:15
      +2

      so that would be extra

      only if you want one.

      • b2dz on 11/03/2019 - 09:12

        I used mine once.

  • ocoolio on 10/03/2019 - 21:32
    +9

    Can we stop complaining about the "4gb isn't enough" thing all the time?

    • It is enough for most everyday uses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX56Sj4XzGM)
    • I've been using a 5th gen m3 with 4Gb, running the usual office apps (chrome, Libreoffice) with some statistics / programming (R and python) with no problem.

    Would it be nicer to have an even faster portable device? Yes.
    Is this inadequate? No.

    • jv on 10/03/2019 - 21:36
      +7

      stop complaining about the "4gb isn't enough"

      it really isn't enough…

    • Diji1 on 10/03/2019 - 22:34
      +3

      M3 surface pro 4 4GB is slow as shit just running Chrome alone.

      • eug on 11/03/2019 - 06:41
        +1

        M3 surface pro 4 4GB is slow as shit just running Chrome alone.

        How fast do you expect a Core m3 device to be? The m3-6Y30 in the SP4 is a 900MHz 4.5W TDP processor.

    • bchliu on 11/03/2019 - 00:06

      Opening 10 tabs alone in Chrome takes up 1.8GB of memory. Windows 10 after loading without anything major takes up 2.5GB of RAM already, not including your AV software or software that runs in the background like Office components. Yes, you can disable some of this but I doubt your "average user" will know that. Which leads into the ugly question of Virtual RAM / Paging on an already slower machine. Paired up with only 128GB (105GB real usage) of NON-UPGRADEABLE storage (which the latest Windows 10 will effectively use 80GB including roll back partitions), you really don't have much room to move.

      • b2dz on 11/03/2019 - 09:14
        +1

        4GB of memory in a Surface Pro 3 is manageable. Just be prepared for a shitload of paging. Not so bad as it is paging to a reasonably fast SSD.

        4GB of memory on the Surface Go is direly, utterly terrible. It uses eMMC storage, which means that when it pages, it is paging to storage that is slower than mechanical drives.

        Seriously, don't buy the 4GB Surface Go.

      • bargaino on 11/03/2019 - 12:39

        Opening 10 tabs alone in Chrome takes up 1.8GB of memory. Windows 10 …

        You need to understand how modern computers work. They will use whatever RAM is available, up to a point.

        Not my main machine, but I have a mini-laptop with Win-10 fully updated, office, other apps, documents, …
        Still 10GB free of 30GB eMMC partition.

        The eMMC is similar speed to mechanical drive for sequential access, but much faster for random access.
        In real-world conditions, it performs much closer to SSD speed than HDD.

        The battery is the real concern here.

  • motion2082 on 10/03/2019 - 21:42
    +1

    We have two of these die each week at my work place

    • jv on 10/03/2019 - 22:45
      +1

      Maybe a virus going around?

    • shmahoo on 11/03/2019 - 06:23

      If Angela Lansbury is a workmate of yours, make sure your will is up to date - you could be next!

  • The Hobo on 10/03/2019 - 22:45

    Any recommendations for a 2 in 1 like a surface pro with a $600 budget? Was looking at the new Chuwi ubook.

    For travel - movies and tv shows, web browsing, and other occasional use items.

    Battery life is very important

    • Tycn on 10/03/2019 - 22:53
      +1

      Lenovo Yoga 710 pops up sometimes for around $600. Battery life would probably be a bit better than this

    • mr_vino89 on 11/03/2019 - 09:48
      +1

      Samsung Galaxy Book if you can manage to find one at that price. I had one - good quality build, good keyboard and also had the S Pen + USB Type C connection.

  • samwyze on 10/03/2019 - 22:47

    It ain't a tablet, but its pretty light, and has a decent processor and battery. Personally, I reckon you're better off with this for the dough.
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-Ideapad-330S-14IKB-14-HD-…

    • The Hobo on 10/03/2019 - 22:54

      After a 2 in 1,as it will be used predominantly as a tablet but I need the flexibility to switch it to laptop mode when required when traveling. It is not my main pc/laptop for when I'm back at home.

      Ie. Tablet can be used when relaxing under a tree or by the pool etc.. Harder with a laptop. Even those 2 in 1s that fold back on themselves don't seem to be great at being held in one hand etc? Never tried one in person though

      • Rayve on 10/03/2019 - 23:03
        +1

        I bought a Chuwi Hi12 about 3 years ago. It has held up really well and performs reasonably for note taking, video playback etc. My only issue is that battery life has gone down from around 7 hours to 2. The charger they supplied also did not work but they gave me a $50 credit for that.

        • ShouldIBuyIt on 11/03/2019 - 11:51

          I had a look to their range and it doesn't make sense, couldn't understand which were the recent version, which where more powerful.
          Interested in 8gb/128gb/USB C

  • Tycn on 10/03/2019 - 22:49
    +1

    Not worth it. On top of the potential battery issues this doesn't include the current type cover (which has a really good keyboard and trackpad) but the much inferior previous version. The keyboard and the screen (which isn't as good in this generation either) are some of the biggest reasons to buy a Surface.

  • boxall on 10/03/2019 - 23:08
    +2

    What is refurbished in Kogan's world? Cleaned it with a tissue? Did they actually refurbish anything?

    Refurbished in Apple's world is as good as new.

    • langthang on 11/03/2019 - 02:01

      Kogan might refurbish Windows OS(made it as good as new). :D

  • WanderingWordsmith on 11/03/2019 - 04:52
    +3

    https://www.klika.com.au/microsoft-surface-pro-3-i5-128gb-ss…
    They are selling it for 399$ plus free delivery

  • trevbreak on 11/03/2019 - 08:04

    Misses has one - the 4gb of RAM completely kills it. It will start to grind to a halt after 5-6 chrome tabs.

    8gb is the minimum requirements these days IMO

    • bargaino on 11/03/2019 - 12:50

      I know Chrome is a memory hog, but you must be doing something seriously wrong.

      I just test Chrome on a 4GB windows machine, several tabs including gmail, calendar, and some heavy news sites.
      Windows is reporting 560MB used by Chrome, and 70% system RAM use. With 8 tabs, up to 700MB. No observable swapping when switching.

      It probably helps that I use an ad-blocker. Try that.

      My other machines have more RAM, so I know the difference. Chrome can easily grow to consume GBs if you let it.

      • trevbreak on 11/03/2019 - 16:20

        Sadly the biggest offender is the construction of realestate.com.au, and that's what we're looking at most of the time right now.
        Airbnb.com is also horrendous at it.

        So yes - there is optimization that can be had with ad-blockers and other methods (reducing the extension footprint etc.), but honestly - 4gb is not enough for a solid experience.

  • sydboy007 on 11/03/2019 - 12:54

    if these can be charged via usb then a 10K or 20K external battery pack can offset the degraded battery

  • diceman99 on 11/03/2019 - 15:40

    Like somebody else said. A modern operating system will gobble up all available RAM, and release it when the OS asks.
    It makes it more effecient, whats the point of having spare RAM lying around.

  • vanyellow on 12/03/2019 - 07:06

    I had a surface pro 2, that I purchased with a failed battery, would it about a minute under battery.

    I managed to replace the battery on the surface pro 2, granted I am a tech repairman so wouldn't recommend anyone to do it (screen will shatter attempting to open it)

    But after buying an Ali express battery for $75aud it now lasts around 5 hours

    But if I was buying these SP3 and the battery life was under 2 hours I would be pissed

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