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NetGear Arlo Pro 2 Security System 4 Camera(VMS4330P+VMC4030P) $756, NVIDIA Shield $177.30 (Sold Out) Delivered @ Wireless1 eBay
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If we are building a new house, are we better of putting in something using PoE and hardwired rather than this, or are these a great price anyway?
For the wireless setup - this is a great price.
I paid $750 approx for a 3 pack that came w/ a Solar Panel. But the Solar Panel is indispensable.
But you will be rotating batteries once a month.
DOWNSIDE: It relies on your home wireless connection. So if your internet is down - this will not work.
Some lag when operating the app.Otherwise for the price, convenience and flexibility - cannot go wrong.
Do you know where to get cheap arlo solar panels from?
Who in their right mind, wants to keep recharging their cameras each month? PoE all the way.
That’s where’s there solar panels for these things.
What's your recommendation on a POE product?
@El Grande: ebay..
This would be the range you're looking at:
https://www.hikvision.com/au-en/Products/Network-Camera/Stan…The dome (DS-2CD2185FWD-I)would be the most fitting since its vandal proof, whereas the (DS-2CD2085FWD) lets you adjust easy without opening it up.
All 8 megapixels with 4K sensor. All can be had for around $200-$250ea on ebay. Yhe 2.8mm lens is the widest. If you want to view a smaller area (closer view) get 4mm lens. You'll notice 'OEM' and 'Original' listings on ebay. The key difference is with 'Original', they will have the Hikvision logo on the camera unit. The 'OEM' have no logos and get shipped in plain cardboard box. 'Original' is deemed more legit and about $20-30 more expensive per unit but I haven't had any issue with either. Remember to buy an sdcard as well if you don't plan on using an NVR.When you get these cameras, they come with hardly any instructions… All of them will default to having an IP address of: 192.0.0.64, so if you have 2 cameras, you'll need to download an app called 'SADP' to change the ip or you won't be able to login since they'll both be sitting on the same IP. Once that's done, you can activate the camera with SADP and assign it a password. Remember to write down the serial no# for activation. These cameras need a POE injector or a POE switch to power. You can then use your web browser to login to the camera. Remember, you'll need to use "Internet Explorer", not Edge to view video through the browser. It doesn't work with any other browsers (e.g. FF, Chrome, etc). ONLY IE. For mobile app, download Ezviz. This is one of the biggest downsides of Hikvision. Such great hardware, only to be ruined by lousy software support. Why do I prefer browser vs mobile app/hikvision portal? You can view it without timeouts. Using mobile app/Hikvision website, you'll get timed out after a few mins and have to continually press a button to reactivate/keep video streaming. This is why businesses generally prefer Hikvision.
Yes check the Hikvision
Agreed! don't get any other brand than HikVision.
What about dahua? The users on ipcamtalk.com seem to rave about their starlight cameras.
Get PoE and make sure they lay cat6 cables :)
What would be the difference if it were CAT6 vs CAT5e (say less than 30m of cable?)
Don't even consider using CAT5e. You should use CAT6A as a minimum. If it were me, I'd go with CAT7. It's all about future proofing, once the cables are in, it's a pain to change them.
@PleasureMe: @PleasureMe: Right well CAT7. This maybe a benefit to you in 20 - 30 years. By this stage there will be 9G and make CAT cables obsolete.
PoE won't work on 3 Phase Power (required for for electric car)
depending on how the cables were laid out.Whats the relationship of PoE and 3 phase power ?
PoE runs of powered switch and independent of 3 phase power ?@bnh: I don't think he understands how 3 phase works. You have 3 poles and you will only be using one.
@i0k-0RU2zd10c: Thats EoP.
3 phase works depending where you put them. Helped my neighbour set up some networking using EoP as their house is double brick and wifi is very patchy.
Their 3 phase is in garage, so from their front lounge room, EoP works fine to their study on the 2nd level.
Arlo Q is POE and tiger res but not weather proof
I have Hikvision (latest 8MP/4K) dome camera + Nest IQ + Arlo2 and having done hours of research, this is my conclusion:
1) If you want 24/7 local recording, go Hikvision (ebay search: DS-2CD2185FWD-I 8MP around $200 each). The new 8MP is world class. I even get notifications when a fly passes the lens (can turn down sensitivity). It's inbuilt software system is impressive. Lots of security features, for example it has line crossing, so I can draw a line at my garage and only have it start recording and notify me via email + phone alert when someone moves over the line (with attached video). Can also make it alert me if anything is removed from an area I drew. Mobile app/desktop is not great though (e.g. random disconnects, not user friendly). If building a new house, this option is 100% recommended. Always future proof your house as it's going to be really hard to do this later. If you hook this up to an NVR, you can get 24/7 local recording. Although it accepts sdcards as well (256gb, etc)2) If you want 24/7 cloud recording + wireless, go with a Nest IQ camera. I have a Nest IQ outdoor and its basically the best. I say this because the software is AMAZING (Google bought them out awhile back). The Hikvision cameras are 4K and absolutely great video but I find that you just can't beat a camera with good software. Nest cameras record 24/7 via wireless but needs to be powered by AC adapter. Mobile app is very impressive compared to the others. (For example you can place your finger over video slider and go through the days recording with ease). It's hard to describe. It's like me saying "Do you prefer using YouTube or Vimeo". The functionality just wins. It has inbuilt intercom so you can talk through the phone app > camera and it's loud (people can hear you 10m away). It also has inbuilt zoom, so say an intruder climbs your fence, it automatically zooms into them so you get better facial features. Only downside is it consumes about 100gb/mo of upload bandwidth. You can also buy a Nest smoke alarm/other products and they integrate super well together.
3) Arlo, good if you have an established house and can't do wiring. The battery is a real pain in the neck. Last option to choose from. The only reason to choose this is if you want to monitor a certain location without running any sort of wire, plus the hub has an alarm that can be activated remotely, can scare intruders if you get alerted. Arlo 2 would be the cheapest and fastest way compared to the above two.
Thanks everyone. All these posts have been really great and helpful.
Worth noting that with Hikvision, if you use their mobile app/web portal, video stops after a few minutes and you have to continually press a button to keep it active. Same applies for Arlo2, unless they changed it recently? Only Nest IQ Camera will let you stream 24/7 on mobile app/desktop web browser without cutting the video stream. Hikvision do 24/7 continuous stream viewing as well but you need to connect using Internet Explorer (not Edge) and no it won't work with Firefox, Chrome, etc. Only IE desktop. These timeouts are really annoying for people who are monitoring a situation/retail store, etc.
These are the sort of comments that I come for
A1 Advice
Problem: Burglar cuts out your power
Solution: Arlo Hub switches to UPS. SmartThings Security alarm switches to UPS. Cameras switches to battery mode.Problem: Burglar cuts out your internet
Solution: Hub reverts to Telstra 4GX NETGEAR Nighthawk M1Problem: Burglar poisons your outdoor dog by tossing it poisoned meat.
Solution: Dog must must sleep inside the house at night.
If burglar is this determined, then nothing will protect you and burglar deserves ya stuff. 😋
Keep in-mind that you only get 1 charger & cable with these kits, so will need extra components if you want to wire them all up for use.
The cheaper 2 camera kit also available ($537.30) for anyone not requiring 4 camera's.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Free-Express-Netgear-Arlo-Pro-2-…
Can easily sale the other two spare camera for extra 350 making 2 camera set up around 400….
Do you know how much will extra cables cost if we are looking to power all cameras?
Why are these sort after when similar 1080p products which have better image quality can be had for less than half price on the bay?
cloud recording is included free
Curious what other eBay products are in direct competition with the Arlo?
Convenience.
Unsure when it'll come to Australia, but they're releasing Arlo Ultra next month (or whenever CES is). 4k wireless with integrated spotlight.
I was gonna go Arlo Pro 2 but will wait for that. Resolution is key when it comes to security cameras and 1080p just isn't enough anymore.
The Arlo Ultra is expected to be $399USD and includes one camera and a base station. So this is a great price for 4 1080p cameras.
Alro cameras aren't great but they do the job. They allow me to quickly check on my home and have 7 days free recording storage, which is more than most.
I have my Arlo Pro (not 2) connected via power and it's as good as always recording, but the low 720p recording has failed me at times when I've sent the vision to the police or tried to get a licence plate.
"failed me at times".. geez where do you live?!
Lol. Boy, do I have some stories.
Would you start a forum post? Sounds very interesting!!!!-
Arlo Ultra: https://www.arlo.com/eu/products/arlo-ultra/default.aspx
Looks like it has a lot of the Nest Cam IQ features but with 4K and spotlight. I would definitely wait for this (imo). I would assume it uses 265 video compression. All existing models right now (Arlo 2/Nest Cam IQ) use 264 video compression except the Hikvision 8MP/4K, which does 265 and 265+. This more than halves the video's bandwidth (ultimately meaning you don't end up with choppy video streaming, etc). Example video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmY_SFhRGGA (look at bottom right bandwidth chart for this H264, uses about 4.3mbps) vs H265 (2.1mbps): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9NeOoic8js . The Hikvision has H265+ which is again more impressive but only available to Hikvision (600Kbps): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp1IW2wLj4Q . I guess it ultimately depends on your budget. The new Ultra's will not be cheap.Predicting around $800 for the single camera.
Or $2000 for 4 cams
@bnh: I'd only want the one tbh, as I already have an Arlo Pro and 3 Arlo cameras.
I would be happy with one 4K Arlo, One Arlo Pro 2, One Alro Pro and then I can just use the two Arlo 720p cameras elsewhere. I only need 5 and 7 days recording - more than enough without having to pay monthly fee.
I should have waited. Got the 3 camera kit last week for $719.
With the next gen tipped to come out in a few weeks, should we get this or wait and see?
Ahhh decisions…
We have had 1 camera as that's all we need for a few years, no problems and get a few months out of a charge, if i had to charge 4 or 5 it would be a pain.
I got one, not sure why :))
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These sort of comments are so stupid
Cancelled my Nvidia Shield order with Kogan and bought this deal…
works with google hub and can cast on tv :)
. never mind.
My parents in law have an Arlo Pro(not 2) there is 1 camera that is a stretch that goes flat all the time because its trying to boost its wifi signal.
Its a shame that you cant tie the cameras into an existing wifi network. if you could link it into something with huge range (eg a ubiquiti LR AP) it would be very desirable.Will start to probe to see if that's available with the Alro Ultra.
EDIT: It seems the Arlo Ultra comes with a new design hub that "acts as a wifi extender to your router" implying that the new cameras will connect into your existing home network.
I think ill wait for that.
Ah good deal! Bugger just missed out on it.
For anyone who's considering getting Arlo, do consider the pros and cons below first. I've had Arlo for about a year and 5 cameras on their Basic plans.
Pros:
Wireless setup that works as advertised although not in a great way. It's like an old car that still runs but it is noisy, jerky, and overall a terrible experience. It'll still do what you need to do but it's not great by any measure.Cons:
The app for your phone is horrendously slow, clunky, takes forever to load the settings page, refresh status, etc. It works pretty fast if you're trying to log in on a computer so it's not an internet speed thing. Considering how many false positives you'll get -> see below, it's absolutely frustrating how many times you need to log in to use this crappy app.False positives; they intentionally cripple the "basic" free plan so you cannot use custom motion zones on battery and only on AC power. If you subscribe to their "smart plans", suddenly it can be done. Basically, if you put your camera out front, you'll get a hundred notifications a day for each car that passes by. Setting a custom motion zone solves this or if you're able to position your camera in a way that does not capture the street. Unfortunately, intentionally crippling features for the "basic" plan is not great. Also - they claim on their website that they can detect between moving trees and other actual motion - this is NOT true. I get notifications for trees all the time. Basically, just get used to dealing with false positives.
Motion detection does not work through glass - i.e. you cannot put this behind a window.
Two Way Communication and Lag - the video captured when viewing "live" is a good 1-2 minutes behind live video. Try having a two way conversation with this is like sending a message to the Mars Rover. by the time the app loads, and you want to have a two way conversation - the person is long gone.\
Battery life can be great or terrible - depending on how many triggers and video recording gets done - anywhere from 1 month to 6 months.
The default mounts that come with the camera are horrendous to mount on a wall and to keep steady when trying to position. You almost need to buy new ones from ebay but they are inexpensive.
Web interface - their web login no longer works with Chrome, since Chrome 71 has now disabled flash entirely from the browser. This means you cannot use the web to stream a video. You can only replay historical videos captured.
Overall
There isn't many other solutions out on the market at the moment so Arlo can get away with doing false marketing claims. None of their features work as well as advertised but they do generally work terribly, in a slow, clunky, frustrating manner. It's just a matter of time before someone else does it better and cheaper. For the prices they're asking for, this isn't quite acceptable.
wow what a price.