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BLF A6 XPL 1600Lumens 7/4modes EDC LED Flashlight 18650 - AUD $25.98 (USD $18.95) Shipped @ Banggood

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BLF A6 XPL 1600Lumens 7/4modes EDC LED Flashlight 18650 - AUD $25.98 (USD $18.95) Shipped @ BanggoodAffiliate
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Specification:

Product name: BLF A6 XP-L EDC LED Flashlight
Brand: BLF
Model: A6
Emitter Type: XPL
Circuit Driver: A17DD-L FET+1 Driver
Light Tint: 3D (5000K), 1A (6500K), 5A(4000K)
3D Neutral white,1A Cool light,5A Very yellow light
Material: Constructed from aero grade aluminum alloy
Mode: Group 1:Moon-Low-Med1-Med2-High1-High2-Turbo(Short press<0.5s)
Group 2: Low,Med,High,Turbo (Short press<0.5s)+ Moon-Turbo-Tactical Strobe-Battcheck-Bike Flasher (Medium press 0.5s-1.5s)

Battery Config: 1 x 18650 battery (not included) (INR18650-30Q 3000mah suggested)
Switch Type: clicky
Switch Location: tail of the flashlight
Impact Resistant: 1 meter
Max Output: 1600lumens (max)
Working Voltage: 2.8-4.35v
Lens: Toughened ultra-clear mineral glass with anti-reflective coating
Reflector: Orange Peel Reflector
Carrying Clip: included
Waterproof: IPX-8 waterproof 2 meters
Color: black
Weight: 80g without battery
Size: 120mm x 24mm(length x body diameter)

Thanks to 4rd for the last post for this torch, made me pull the trigger and get it. Very bright for the size. Bought another because I've already lost the first.

First time posting so if I've missed anything please let me know!

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  • Diji1 on 05/05/2017 - 00:47

    3D

    Can I play Doom on this?

    • InsertName on 05/05/2017 - 00:49

      Maybe not on this but I'm sure you can play Doom with this!

  • tsunamisurfer on 05/05/2017 - 00:58

    Anyone know where I can get the 18650 batteries reliably?

    • Diji1 on 05/05/2017 - 01:19

      eBay, Jaycar, Amazon

    • InsertName on 05/05/2017 - 01:23
      +1

      I've heard the LG HG2 are great for this kind of use. Buying one from ebay which the 5% is on. Link I'm purchasing from: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/322283544991

      • [Deactivated] on 05/05/2017 - 10:59

        Are non protection batteries safe to use in this?

        • AusGaz on 05/05/2017 - 11:39

          I believe these have a protection circuit built into the torch. From what i've read, Unprotected cells are recommended for this torch as protected cells may not actually fit (too long/wide) and the protection circuit may be tripped due to the high current draw from the torch.

          Now for my question.. Has anybody had luck using any banggood protected cells in this torch? :P I've only got a 'dumb' 18650 charger so wanted to stick to protected cells.

        • keengeorge on 05/05/2017 - 12:13

          @bti_jet & gazlaz, Unprotected 18650 batteries are the best for this torch/flashlight so as to get maximum output.
          Btw, the BLF A6 has Low Voltage Protection which will shut it down when the battery reaches that low voltage.
          But as always you should always be Very careful when using Li-Ion batteries. Make sure you read up about Li-Ion safety on BLF.
          The cheap protected batteries use Very Poor protection circuits, which trip at low current.
          There are good Protected 18650 Li-Ion batteries which use the Seiko protection PCB, and these can cope with the BLF A6's current draw.
          One of the brands usually using these Seiko PCBs is EVVA (I bought many about 1-2 years ago from Banggood).
          A good source for batteries using good Seiko PCB's in Australia is (message them on eBay):
          supersports600 Store | eBay
          http://stores.ebay.com.au/supersports600
          But you may have width issues with protected batteries.
          Btw, length should not be a problem as the A6 has springs at both ends

        • [Deactivated] on 05/05/2017 - 18:38
          +1

          @keengeorge: no problem, i have sony vct4's i use on my vape mod. ill try these with the torch

    • Darkii on 05/05/2017 - 03:59
      +3

      Bought the same torch and use these batteries with it.
      https://www.banggood.com/2PCS-INR18650-30Q-3000mah-20A-Power…

      • keengeorge on 05/05/2017 - 04:43
        +2

        The Samsung INR18650-30Q are one of the best high drain batteries currently in the market.
        And Banggood is a good reliable supplier of genuine 18650 batteries.
        Whereas you never know what you get from ebay vendors

      • PavloXYZ on 05/05/2017 - 08:42
        +1

        I'll second that!
        I've bought one of these to upgrade from my AA EDC lights
        Much much more power and throw and only slightly bigger.
        can't feel it in my backpack but certainly see the difference.
        I've only received genuine 18650 batteries from Banggood too.

        Edit. Considering it's winter now and the day is shorter, it's really handy to have between the walk from the station and home. Especially for women who have to walk pass dark, unlit streets. These things are blinding and can be used to momentarily blind the perpetrator without long lasting damages while you (insert verb).

    • Flyerone on 05/05/2017 - 08:33
      +1

      Banggood —-> INR18650-30Q

  • scrimshaw on 05/05/2017 - 02:06

    This might be off topic, but has anyone received the cheap Cree light from GearBest?

    • TedJ on 05/05/2017 - 10:42

      I doubt it. This bargain was posted a week ago and the free shipping from GearBest takes anywhere from 4-6 weeks.

  • Darkii on 05/05/2017 - 04:01

    Torch is really damn bright has a massive throw. Drinks through 18650 batteries quickly on high power but

  • miruki on 05/05/2017 - 04:24

    Does anyone know why "emitter brand:cree" is removed unlike the past deals? Thanks.

  • Scab on 05/05/2017 - 04:29
    -5

    Max Output: 1600lumens

    In Chinese lumens only.

    • keengeorge on 05/05/2017 - 04:40
      +1

      The BLF A6 does 1600 lumens if you bypass the springs, and use high drain 18650 batteries like
      the Samsung INR18650-30Q

      • Scab on 05/05/2017 - 04:42
        -3

        Not a chance, 1600 lumens is more than a household floodlight.

        • keengeorge on 05/05/2017 - 04:45
          +5

          If you don't believe this, then read through
          BLF A6 FET+7135 Light. Short 18350 tubes and Unanodized Lights Available
          http://budgetlightforum.com/node/36667
          And many other threads on BLF :)

        • Scab on 05/05/2017 - 04:47
          -2

          @keengeorge:

          I'm not reading all that, give me the short version where they tested it properly and it was 1600 lumens?

        • keengeorge on 05/05/2017 - 04:49
          +3

          @Scab, I given you the original source, and as you don't believe the facts then it is up to you to
          disprove what I have said based on tons of BLF data

        • keengeorge on 05/05/2017 - 05:11
          +3

          @Scab:
          Scab, have a Good day ;)

        • JMC on 05/05/2017 - 06:53
          +12

          @Scab:

          This light, in the highest mode, connects the LED to the battery directly using a FET. This means no current limiting beyond the resistance of the LED, battery and springs.

          Depending on the battery used, this means it peaks at around 5 amps (measured by multiple users) at about four volts with a fresh battery. This means it's drawing about 20 watts.

          An XPL led can achieve 160 lumens/watt at reasonable power levels (of course, efficiency changes with drive current but it will get us in the ballpark). So in an ideal world, you're looking at 3200 lumens.

          Of course, the light can't actually do this. Efficiency drops off significantly as the power rises, and the voltage at the LED sags due to the resistance of the springs, switch and battery.

          I don't have time to find a source, but the numbers that the enthusiasts who helped develop this light say it can reach around 1200-1300 in stock form, and 1600 if you add a low resistance bypass wire to the springs.

          These numbers are realistic. I own one, and at peak brightness it will cause plastic to smoke at close range. At peak power, it gets hot fast (they're pushing the LED at nearly twice its rated current) and automatically drops to a lower mode after a short time to prevent overheating.

          There are plenty of crappy LED torches with ridiculous "2000 Lumens!!!" claims. This isn't one of them.

          For further evidence, look at the XPL led data from Cree. These LEDs are rated to 3A and put out a little over 1000 lumens at this brightness.

          http://www.cree.com/led-components/products/xlamp-leds-discr…

          In this torch, the LED is pushed harder than this to briefly allow the ridiculously high brightness.

        • keengeorge on 05/05/2017 - 07:59

          @JMC: Superb post full of useful and interesting information :) ;)

        • Scab on 05/05/2017 - 08:19
          -6

          @keengeorge:

          And still nothing about actual lumen testing, just anecdotes and that it's really bright.

        • Flyerone on 05/05/2017 - 08:23
          +6

          @Scab: Give up troll.

        • Scab on 05/05/2017 - 08:24
          -4

          @Flyerone:

          Intelligent reply there, someone asks for evidence based on a claim and it's trolling?

          It's not like these manufacturers ever exaggerate the lumen output, ever.

        • Flyerone on 05/05/2017 - 08:27
          +1

          @Scab: You were given the evidence yet refuse to accept it.

        • Scab on 05/05/2017 - 08:28
          -3

          @Flyerone:

          No I wasn't, I was given anecdotes and a group buy link, that's not evidence.

          Where is the evidence this was tested properly at 1600 lumens?

        • Flyerone on 05/05/2017 - 08:30
          +4

          @Scab: I'm not going to spoon feed a fool.

        • Scab on 05/05/2017 - 08:30
          -3

          @Flyerone:

          So you can't provide any evidence, thought so.

        • JMC on 05/05/2017 - 08:42
          +2

          @Scab:

          Flashlight manufacturers exaggerate.

          However, CREE is a leading LED manufacturer and their datasheets are pretty spot-on.

          An XPL can do 1000 lumens at 3A, as given by the datasheet. This LED is being driven harder. Do you think CREE is lying?

        • JMC on 05/05/2017 - 08:49
          +1

          @Scab:

          http://budgetlightforum.com/node/44446

          And here are some measurements, showing 1100 lumens in stock form with the batteries that guy had on hand.

          With a spring bypass and better batteries, this will go up a little bit. Also keep in mind the variability between individual LED samples, and the fact that his homemade integrating sphere is only approximately calibrated (against flashlights which have been measured by professional equipment)

          1600 lumens is a bit optimistic, but the light is definitely well over 1000.

        • Scab on 05/05/2017 - 08:50

          @JMC:

          Flashlight manufacturers exaggerate.

          Which is my point and why I don't believe any of them.

          However, CREE is a leading LED manufacturer and their datasheets are pretty spot-on.

          Sure, but they don't make the torch.

        • JMC on 05/05/2017 - 08:52
          +1

          @Scab:

          You can measure the drive current with a multimeter. Mine does about 4A (with long, high-resistance multimeter leads) from memory.

          The torch is just an aluminium shell and reflector. On high, this torch uses no sophisticated electronics. It connects the battery and LED directly.

        • TedJ on 05/05/2017 - 09:56
          +2

          Hi, just a quick update with lumen measurements from a totally stock production unit in 3D tint. I used a Samsung 25R cell charged to 4.18V, and measured the initial output (not at 30 seconds).

          Lumens at each mode, group A:

          A1 : 0.55 lm (visually 0.82)
          A2 : 11.79 lm (visually 2.28)
          A3 : 71.03 lm (visually 4.14)
          A4 : 197.6 lm (visually 5.82)
          A5 : 450.0 lm (visually 7.66)
          A6 : 874.1 lm (visually 9.56)
          A7 : 1351 lm (visually 11.06)

          These measurements were taken by Toykeeper, a longstanding member of the Budget Light Forum community and the developer of the firmware used in this light, among many others. The details can be found in the following post and more info can be found in the mod and troubleshooting thread if you care to take a look.

        • JMC on 05/05/2017 - 12:26
          +1

          @TedJ:

          Excellent info! I'd long wondered what the intermediate modes were, in lumens. I had estimates based on PWM duty cycle, but it's nice to see real data.

        • Skinnerr on 05/05/2017 - 21:56
          +1

          @JMC: Why indulge him, ignorance is bliss!

        • Skinnerr on 05/05/2017 - 21:58
          +1

          @Scab: The only thing in question is your level of intelligence.

        • JMC on 05/05/2017 - 22:48
          +1

          @thedude23:

          True. It's really more for the sake of other people who might be interested.

  • altomic on 05/05/2017 - 08:27
    +1

    Would prefer the more powerful CFMEU torch.

  • TedJ on 05/05/2017 - 10:37
    +1

    The A6 is a great little light. I have mine in my pocket as I type this. As has been pointed out above, this light needs a high drain cell (and an optional spring bypass mod) to reach its full potential. The Samsung INR18650-30Q or the LG HG2 are well suited.

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