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PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS AN OEM LICENSE KEY FOR WINDOWS 10 PROFESSIONAL AND WILL NOT WORK FOR 'N' VERSIONS OF WINDOWS 10. PLEASE ENSURE THIS OPTION IS NOT SELECTED DURING INSTALLATION.
ALSO NOTE: WINDOWS ISO FILES ARE NOT PROVIDED, YOU ARE PURCHASING A WINDOWS LICENSE KEY ONLY.
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Yeh I was wondering the same thing??
No MS keys are legit under $60
I've never paid more than $25 for a legit key. There's entire sub-reddits for that sort of thing.
It's not legit. It's volume license for organization which you don't belong.
@PainToad: Either a volume license or an MSDN license (which is only supposed to be used for testing purposes, and can be terminated if the MSDN account expires)
Or I guess it could be an MSDNAA key from a university student. My MSDNAA keys from university still work :D
Read up and see the video on my recent experience buying an "OEM" key from OzBargain:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/3932475/redir
It turns out that the key was in fact an OEM key.
But aren't MSDN keys supposed to show up as OEM anyway? That's at least what my MSDNAA keys showed up as (I can't remember if it mentioned "DM" or not)
No. MSDN keys show up as either real keys or VL (Volume License) keys depending if you got a single serial number entry or multiple for same product. (eg. Windows 8/10 Enterprise is VL keys, whilst Windows 8/10 Pro or Home are shown as retail individual keys).
I recently bought a Windows 10 Pro OEM key from CDKeyhouse and the activated product ID ends with AAOEM. I paid around the same price as this.
@guidedlight - thanks for checking for the rest of us!
I have a receipt from Microsoft for Windows key for AUD $14.99 when they had a promo (purchased from microsoft.com).
Whats your point?
has to be legit.OP typed in CAPS!
Just quoting, hence the quote symbol
I only believed you because you used an exclamation mark.
I bet these are just MSDN keys.
MSDN doesnt offer OEM keys.
Whose to say they are actually OEM keys?
Who's to say they arent?
Hey…i think this is what i need for my newly buily gaming pc. I have no operating system yet and my son says he wants windows 10.
So is this the real windows 10? Do i need anything else to get the pc working so he can play his games?
files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/117899/42135
Cheers
Pookie
Link doesnt working for me pookie. If you dont have windows 7 or 8/8.1 then you probably would have to buy a version of windows 10.
OEM means in short that it will only work on 1 computer. Once you remove the motherboard then you would need to contact microsoft to reactivate the serial number or buy another one. Retail keys (~$169) let you use your key on a computer regardless of what happens to the parts inside.
If you do have a retail copy of windows 7/8/8.1 then you might be able to upgrade through "assistive techniologies" but Im not sure if they have closed that option off
Anything that is under $120 for windows is usually "off" in some way, couldnt tell you how
How do you deactivate the key though? Especially if you upgraded from W7/W8. W10 has no product keys after that. It's tied to the motherboard. You wouldn't be able to just enter your existing key when installing to another system because there is no key to enter. Everyone's product key is the same. The hardware activation is stored on activation servers.
If you upgraded you have to quote your "authentic" win 7/8 key on the phone to them to reactivate after a big hardware (motherboard) change. They will then activate the new windows 10 you installed but dont have a key for yet.
I wouldn't know about deactivating, but would assume that your old windows 10 system would no longer work because the key would be associated with the wrong hardware.
ie old mobo - old win 10. —-> new mobo - retail key inputted - it deactivates old win 10 - activate new win 10
Basically retail would let you move around win 10 but the older versions would be marked as wrong or invalid once they connect to the internet
@gagiman: Have you tried this?
I can't seem to find a straight answer on the web about reactivating win10 after a motherboard/system upgrade. They don't seem to differentiate between retail and OEMs copies and just say "new mobo = buy new win10 licence" I have upgraded from a retail win7 key but plan to build a new PC at the end of the year.
@fenric:
Most Windows 10 keys will be digitally logged against your Microsoft account (If chosen to set up with that account). So if you reinstall Windows and re login with that account, it should automatically activate
@fenric: I had to change my motherboard and contacted microsoft, they said contact us and supply us your win 7 key and we will give you a new one. They didn't want anything to do with my win 10 key just the older win 7 one.
Didn't bother with linking to an microsoft account. So I dont know about the above persons option
Changed my motherboard, it asked if I updated hardware, logged in to my Microsoft account and my oem worked fine …….. .
@gagiman: OK, thanks. Good to hear it has actually worked for someone. Did they ask anything about upgrade vs replacement? Did you use the same CPU etc?
Sorry for the 20 questions…so much vague info out there :P
@fenric: At the time I said it was a change in motherboard, I bought a "pc case gear" xeon bundle so I changed out my motherboard and cpu.
I hear you can replace the hard drive with an ssd and install windows and it works based off the mobos win 10 key but cant verify personally
So I googled around.
http://www.howtogeek.com/226510/how-to-use-your-free-windows-10-license-after-changing-your-pc’s-hardware/
^ The above article basically recommends you to create and account and link it like kid vhee does. Click that option and sign in with the Microsoft account you associated your license with. You’ll be able to tell Windows that you “changed hardware on this device recently” and select your PC from a list of devices associated with your Microsoft account.
PS apparently this was a recent change, I got my stuff in august, they probably got a flood of people "contacting" microsoft to do the windows 10 upgrade stuff so decided to automate some of it
I can't seem to find a straight answer on the web about reactivating win10 after a motherboard/system upgrade
What answer do you want?
The licence is tied to the first computer that it's activated with. If you change the computer, then Windows de-activates itself.
They don't seem to differentiate between retail and OEMs copies
Note when it deactivates, they all do it the same.
The difference is that with a Retail version YOUI PHONE UP and they activate the new machine for you. They won't do that with an OEM licence…. and you don't have a licence anyway, you have a Hardware-linked digital entitlement.
and just say "new mobo = buy new win10 licence
Who just says?
Instead of listening to rumours, just read the M$ EULA.
Install win10 pro without key. (Plz say you have an Ssd)
It will have a watermark on lower right corner to activate.
Won't be able to customise wallpaper.
But all else works fine.
You can still use it without paying for full version.
(Plz correct me if i am wrong)
Then if you like it… buy it from this deal or reddit a windows10 pro key. (Or win7pro)…
[I personally purchases 3x win7 pro keys and slapped them into 3PCs with already win10 pro installed… this was before the free upgrade ended]
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/259815
This link says you still can get win10 upgrade free… food for thought.
Worked out to be under $80aud for 3x win7 pro keys.
Are these farmed keys that eventually get banned?
I bought a W7 key from reddit over a year ago and upgraded it to W10 immediately. MS still hasn't disabled it.
I wonder if accepting the upgrade 'legitimized' the key? Maybe if I stayed on W7 they'd eventually catch on and disable it?
Personally I believe that buying a key you know (?) is fake is worse than just pirating outright. You're giving money to other people who are profiting off illegal software.
The seller says the keys are legit. I have no way of proving or knowing that they're fake. I'm not MS and can't verify. I can only take them at their word, or make an unproven assumption that they're lying.
If they told me this key is 100% fake but it will work, that would be another matter. I would go into this transaction knowing I'm buying something illegal and it would be on me.
Yeah, people have wierd beliefs.
Like some people think it's amazingly bad to pirate things but then go and pay a third party to violate the copyrights of providers such as Netflix. That's profiting off piracy.
he gives you a key that works, what's the issue?
You just paid for piracy, which make you an idiot.
Piracy is FREE =- DOH.
The seller says the keys are legit.
Windows keys sold at this price would be a LOSS.
Why would anybody open a website and do that?
This is the equivalent of buying from some random overseas site that says they are selling brand new 100% legit Apple iPhone 6's for $300 each.
@lostn: When someone is selling you something at a fraction of cost price then you can be pretty damn sure it is dodgy. legally the onus is on you, as the bar is would a reasonable person believe it is legitimate to be buying something at a fraction of cost.
What is 'N'?
European version without the windows media player because it was an "unfair advantage" to have a media player thats bundled with the initial product. Anyone can technically use it
Desexed Win10
That law is up there with "all bars must feed and stable customers' horses" for outdatedness.
you do not need to activate windows 10 to use it forever.
If you do not activate all you get is a watermark on bottom right corner saying "Please activate"
and cant personalise themes.
Yes but that's annoying. They stop just short of calling you a criminal, every day.
Also, do you get updates?
yes u do. they actually dont pester you that much. i;ve had an unactivated version for 3month now and the most i was was maybe a prompt to buy a key once every week. not too bad if u dun wana fork out cash for a copy on ur spare pc =)
that is out-right wrong, coz we were doing a presentation on a machine that hasn't been activated properly, and it poped-up some weird message telling you so. My god it was embarrassing!!!!
well… i would of thought in a professional setting, one would actually purchase a legit copy of windows 10 lol…
i meant for those with spare PCs…
It also will shut down after an hour.
negative. does not happen.
It's the "documented" behaviour of trial installs after the trial period expires.
What version do you get if you run "winver.exe"? Are you still on 1511?
i refer you to actual experiences rather than whats documented. alot of things are documented but not implemented. again i am only recommendingithis for ur spare pc thar u dun use often. not for ur main pc obviously.
http://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-…
What are the limitations of OEM keys?
It gets locked to a particular PC and can't be transferred to a new machine.
I have a "legit" retail key and don't know how I would go about installing it on a new machine anyway because it was a W7 key that I upgraded to W10. Would I install W7 on the new PC instead and then upgrade it to W10? But the free upgrade offer has expired.
All W10 installations have the same product key. How would MS know I'm using the same key I used on another machine? Do I need to call them and get them to disable my activation from the other machine first?
All of this could have been avoided if they kept W10 product keys unique.
Think you'll find the upgraded W10 is locked to the specific machine you had the Win 7 on and upgraded
Would I install W7 on the new PC instead and then upgrade it to W10?
I believe you can now directly use the Windows 7 key when activating Windows 10.
How would MS know I'm using the same key I used on another machine?
When you activate Windows it sends unique IDs from your hardware to Microsoft's servers which locks the key to that hardware.
Do I need to call them and get them to disable my activation from the other machine first?
You can deactivate it on your own. Probably best to Google for yourself how to do it.
if you upgraded from retail win 7 (not OEM) you should be able to transfer the win 10 license to a new system by ringing microsoft activations. do a fresh win 10 install and give them a call. if it was win 7 OEM you wont be able to.
the license is tied to the motherboard.
don't know how I would go about installing it on a new machine anyway because it was a W7 key that I upgraded to W10.
You now have a key for Windows 7, and a digital entitlement to whatever machine you upgraded to Windows 10.
Would I install W7 on the new PC instead and then upgrade it to W10?
No, you have already used the free upgrade, your "upgrade opportunity" has been used.
All W10 installations have the same product key.
No they don't, because they don't have any Product Key. They use a Hardware hash checksum, which is then communicated to an online Activation Server.
How would MS know I'm using the same key I used on another machine?
Only one machine is licenced. The activation server knows THAT machine is activated and legit.
Do I need to call them and get them to disable my activation from the other machine first?
No - you do not now own a Windows 10 Retail licence. You own a Windows 7 retail licence.
All of this could have been avoided if they kept W10 product keys unique.
There is no product keys. Windows 10 licencing is not based on "keys".
However, if you purchase a RETAIL copy, then you have a installation key. So, by quoting that to M$ they will disable the old machine's HardwareID activation, and allow you to activate the new machine.
All of this was covered quite clearly in the webpages for Win 10 Upgrade.
You now have a key for Windows 7, and a digital entitlement to whatever machine you upgraded to Windows 10.
What's the difference between a key and a "digital entitlement"?
No they don't, because they don't have any Product Key. They use a Hardware hash checksum, which is then communicated to an online Activation Server.
Actually it does. My product key is VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T. If you use Keyfinder, that's what you will see. Everyone has the same key. If you want to argue that this isn't the real key used for activation, well I never said it was. On our end, it's the only way to identify my installation. Everything else is done stealthily.
No, you have already used the free upgrade, your "upgrade opportunity" has been used.
What would you do if you used the W10 upgrade and your motherboard died, and you need to replace the motherboard but kept everything else?
Are you SOL?
No - you do not now own a Windows 10 Retail licence. You own a Windows 7 retail licence.
What can you still do with this W7 retail license? Can you still reinstall W7 on another machine?
There is no product keys. Windows 10 licencing is not based on "keys".
I should rephrase. If they continued using keys, this could be avoided.
All of this was covered quite clearly in the webpages for Win 10 Upgrade.
Yeah sorry about that. I forgot the URL to that webpage. I actually never visited it. The upgrade just downloaded automatically and installed itself like malware.
Legally, can only be installed on a "New PC" at the sale of a motherboard, CPU, RAM and HDD. But not for existing PC's (the Upgrade option is disabled from the previous versions).
What if you buy an OEM key with a new PC, but instead of installing it on the new PC you install it on an existing PC? Could you still be thrown in jail for this apparent crime?
yep.. next to a cell mate called "Bubba" in maximum penalty and security..
most likely steals your credit card details
Although on the upside has paypal…
What if Paypal decided to be the CC thieves instead?
Mind = blown.
A key can't steal your details - malware has to be embedded in install files/ISO image. ED: Oh…but I guess the site could steal your CC
You cannot trust Paypal.
I once paid by paypal and the seller debited more than I had authorised.
I was stunned that this was possible - even had the screenshots to prove it was not my error!
But Paypal refused to do anything about it.
Fortunately, it was just a mistake, and the seller refunded my money.
Man that was lucky!
I once paid cash for something and got short changed by $2!
I'll never use cash again…
I think you missed the point. ie don't expect paypal to offer any sort of protection if you think the vendor is dodgy.
You might as well just use your credit card.
Not sure why they talk about N versions …… If it's full Pro the key activates, it registers and works and your own provides tech support not Microsoft…..All our 3 PCs at home are oem .
N means Europe and no media player …. Only issue on upgrade not fresh install.
I have a Windows 8 professional key that I upgraded to Windows 10 during the free upgrade promo
I'm going to be upgrading my motherboard and CPU in the next 2 months
Can I re-use this key somehow or do I need to get another one? Will I be able to install Windows 10?
Was the Win-8 key supplied with the machine, or retail? Most likely the former, so no.
I bought the key separately, so I don't believe it is OEM
Yeah you should be fine if it was a retail copy of Windows 8 Pro that you bought.
Apparently you need to call MS and give them your windows 8 key that you upgraded from and they will give you an activation code for the new rig.
I've upgraded PC's before and my activation key wouldn't work. I just used the Microsoft support telephone number which is 24/7. You'll end up getting someone in India who will walk you through a process to manually activate your pc rather than the automated activation servers. So long as you key is legitimate they'll help you out no problems.
I bought mine from play-asia last night for $34AUD. Its an OEM key.
upgrading from windows 10 home to pro will not work. You'll have to be on windows 10 pro to add the key or do a clean install.
Mine that i got from CDKeyhouse is OEM too and shows as product ID ending in AAOEM. Granted it was only first activated a few weeks ago after i got a new Toshiba P300 2TB 3.5" hard drive from Amazon in the computer rig and used it for the Windows 10 install.
I got my win10 pro OEM key from play-asia also since they are quite reliable.
Can you link to it?
Is it from PA themselves or a third party seller?
Currently on my phone. So im not sure if this is the right link for computers too, but here it is
http://m.play-asia.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-3264-bit-oem…
I'm not too sure how to answer the questions you asked as i actually dont know too much about them, but every discussion forums showed that they were in fact reliable and had really good customer service so i went ahead and purchased the key via paypal payment. (and they linked me the offical install file download link too)
They are a huge company so even if you get any problems, i'm sure they will help you out. But having said that, it still isn't a 100% legit way of getting windows, so if you are super duper cautious, it's better to just purchase the hard copy/license and keys.
gee so confusing. so is this good deal or not?
Nope.
gee so confusing.
What is confusing?
so is this good deal or not?
NO.
100% sure not a legit license to buy, it has no different with the $10 ebay stuff.
This site is probably going against the terms of Microsoft agreements, unless the end person who builds their own pc is still considered a 'system builder' by Microsoft..
Hasn't been the case since Win 8.1, so yes it goes against T&Cs . https://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/Pages…
A few things about OEM Windows
(1) A legitimate reseller of Windows is bound to only sell OEM Windows with a computer, there's some definition, but the short version is, you need to buy a system with it.
(2) If it doesn't include the sticker with the key on it, it's not a legal copy of OEM Windows - https://www.microsoft.com/OEM/en/PublishingImages/Worldwide/…
(3) An OEM copy of Windows is not transferrable under normal circumstances, about the only exception is a faulty motherboard, but it would have to be a direct replacement, not an upgrade.
Just a heads up, if you're buying this because you missed the free upgrade, you can still do the upgrade for free.
Perform a clean install (the way you should always to a new OS install IMO) from a DVD or USB, and just press 'I don't have a key' and it will install and require activation once in Windows. You can use a Windows 7/8 key to activate. Just make sure the OS version you chose when installing (Pro or Home) corresponds with your Windows 7/8 key version.
You can probably enter they key during the setup, although I didn't do it this way, so can't verify if it will detect that the key is valid.
I have done this on three computers so far, a mix of both OEM and retail licenses.
Corresponding versions:
Those of you who currently run Windows 7 Starter, Windows 7 Home Basic or Windows 7 Home Premium will be upgraded to Windows 10 Home.
Those of you running Windows 7 Professional or Windows 7 Ultimate will be upgraded to Windows 10 Pro.
Those of you running Windows 8.1 (the standard edition) will receive Windows 10 Home.
Those of you running Windows 8.1 Pro or Windows 8.1 Pro for Students will receive Windows 10 Pro.
Not worth your time buying these cheap keys.
They might work for a few months then just stop working, at which point the 'seller' will have disappeared with your money and you will be left with a non-genuine OS.
Don't waste your time, buy a legit one.
I guess the only advantage with this deal is Paypal, so if you're lucky enough to have the key stop working in the first 90 days you MIGHT be able to get your money back, but you are still left with the hassle of replacing it.
I think it depends on where you source your key from. I have had about 6 keys from reedit had one not work immediately it was replaced, and one stop after a few months, once again replaced. Both times no questions asked just replaced.
Getting a replacement key from these guys may be more troublesome. But when you look at the price difference for retail keys versus these OEM keys, it really is a no brainer.
I bought off a reliable reddit seller, it didn't work straight up, he sent a new one, that one also didn't work. At this point when I asked for a replacement he basically called me a liar and said 'this is the last replacement I'm sending you' and sent one.
This is the last replace I will do. So hope it works and if it doesn't then it's a problem on your end not mine.
That one worked but failed in a few months, and by then the seller had deleted his account, and presumably made a new one and is continuing to scam people.
Or you could do the right thing and buy a legitimate key, these are obviously not the real deal if they get disabled after a period of time
AFAIK Paypal does not provide 90 day cover cover for digital products .
Don't rely on PayPal…
Claiming a Digital Good refund
13.7 To be eligible for a refund for a Digital Goods purchase the following requirements must be met:
You must file a dispute in the Resolution Centre within 7 days of the transaction;
You're right. SO no benefit to Paypal at all.
whats the bet this is legit?
nil?