Another with thanks to our friends @ HUKD
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PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS AN OEM LICENSE KEY FOR WINDOWS 10 PROFESSIONAL AND WILL NOT WORK FOR 'N' VERSIONS OF WINDOWS 10. PLEASE ENSURE THIS OPTION IS NOT SELECTED DURING INSTALLATION.
ALSO NOTE: WINDOWS ISO FILES ARE NOT PROVIDED, YOU ARE PURCHASING A WINDOWS LICENSE KEY ONLY.
Mod: See comment regarding this deal
yes .. but as theguyrules has pointed out dont get this if you are wanting to upgrade.
If you avoided it when the upgrade was free, why would you want to pay for it now?
If these stop after a couple of weeks, don't think of PayPal or credit card charge back.
Seems like Microsoft will disable these as soon as found out like they did before.
Previously I saw a post regarding Windows 10 pro from Germany ebay. Created an account and gave it a try. It costed me $14 aud…the first key provided by the seller didn't work. So i had to ask for a new one and he gave me a new key right away. It worked just fine via phone verification..
Dodgy seller selling the same key to multiple people. You bought a key that was being also sold and being used by other people which is the reason why the first key didn't work (banned by MS due to multiple activations on different computers from different IP addresses) and the second key needed a phone verification because although the key was still active but it had currently been activated and used by other people who knows where. That current key you have will likely also be banned soon.
A Windows 10 key should activate through the internet first go, it should not need a phone activation. The only reason it would is when it was already activated by some one else on another computer. So you can kiss that key goodbye some time soon.
Makes sense. Anyways have a Legit Windows 10 home key from before..:)..so let's see how many days the pro works..
that is incorrect, many of the german keys have flags wich prevent online activation, and often give the error already used, simply ringing microsoft resolves this issue, they activate it for you no questions asked, the already used flag happens because the oem key has been unbundled from a system, if microsoft ask how many times you activated this key, you say this one time
i have bought hundreds of these online ms keys and talked with ms about 20 times regarding this issue, they always activate
What's the point of buying a key at all if it's not going to be legally licensed anyway
This. No deal.
I suppose it must be the dodgy sellers that are selling the same key to multiple people that at the one's getting the key banned.
For students, please check onthehub to see if your institution and department are eligible for a FREE copy of LEGITIMATE Windows 10 Education (all features of Pro & Enterprise)
My sons school isn't listed :(
Hey, I'm a student at CSU Uni… maybe I am eligible :)
Why not just install Windows 7 and then upgrade to a legit Win 10 copy using the "Windows 10 upgrade for users with assistive technology".
Totally legit and costs $0.
:D
Why not just install Windows 7 and then upgrade to a legit Win 10 copy using the "Windows 10 upgrade for users with assistive technology
Because if you had a Windows 7 or 8.1 key, you could do that. However, what if you wanted a NEW licence?
I would not go near this with a 10 foot pole.
not legit, OEM is only legit when purchased bundled with hardware e.g. HP, you also need to be an OEM re-seller to be eligible to receive the keys. This is dodgy as, avoid.
Technically the "legitness" of the key is irrespective of whether it was included with hardware or not. But it can only be legally sold with hardware.
Them separating the key from the hardware does not make it non-legit. They're just breaking Microsoft's T&Cs, to your benefit of course.
If I got an OEM key with my new PC and didn't use it and instead gave it to you, would the key be considered fake by Microsoft's servers? No. To them it's a legit key. It just wasn't acquired by you in the way it was supposed to. Just like sellers who will sell you a cheaper Academic version of software without checking your student ID card. You're not a student and don't qualify, but the key is still genuine.
I'm not saying these keys being sold are legit. I'm only saying your reason for calling them fake is insufficient. If they're fake, they're not fake because they're being sold without hardware. They're fake for other reasons.
Why are mods ignoring the reports on this post? Weird.
See the mod comment relating to a previous deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/3931669/redir
It seems like the attitude here is: Microsoft themselves aren't taking any action against these websites, so we won't either.
Having said that there is a lack of evidence around the source of these keys. So in the absence of any real information the mods won't assume anything. The only real way to deal with these posts is to ban all deals involving product keys… but then that brings the source of many game keys into disrepute too (e.g. G2A is known to be involved in money laundering, and yet continues to be posted on OzBargain).
The source of 'cheap' digital products are difficult to trace, and so I sympathise with the mods in this regard.
That makes a lot of sense actuslly. Cheers.
its the digital age, digital keys are here to stay, the market is growing bigger year on year and you want to ban one of the greatest freedoms of the digital age, there has to be a better way, sadly it involves the publishers of these keys who have not one price for the same product, but 50 prices, and due to this complex milking of the cow where your postcode dictates how much you pay and just about everyone on the planet except me is ok with it the publishers prefer to give out conflicting information creating a climate of fear regarding these keys encouraging the sale of mdsn and VL keys to further upset the market and try and trick people into believing only legitimate keys have holograms and coas when in fact the truth is keys can come without a hologram or coa
It's too good to be true but they turn a blind eye deliberately hoping that it is, even though it is obvious that it is not.
OEMs must be sold with a system. Which is as legal as a business using a student academic version. All illegal and will get you in trouble if caught. Theres no difference between buying this and using a key gen. So legally speaking, you are paying for a key gen at the end of the day.
As said before, there's a difference between 'fake' key and non-legit acquisition.
The academic key being used by a business is not fake because it's being used by a business. It's still a legit key.
Selling an OEM key without an included PC goes against the conditions of the license. But that doesn't make the product key illegitimate. The person using it is not using it in a legitimate manner, but it's still a legit key.
Acquiring something in an illegal manner is not the same as buying a counterfeit product. If I stole a Samsung Galaxy S7, that S7 is still the real deal, not a fake or illegitimate product. They could very well be selling legitimite keys, just going against Microsoft's conditions of the sale. The one breaking the law in this case would be the seller, not you. But that's not a law recognized by any government. What Microsoft says you can and can't do with their software is not inscribed into federal or state law.
Having said that, I have no idea if the keys being sold here are legit or not. If they're not legit it won't be because they're selling it without hardware. It will be because they already sold the key to someone else or it's MSDN or whatever.
Its easy to get a illegitimate key. Its hard to get a legit key.The only legit thing about the key is it works. much like a key gen off a torrent site. If you get audited/scanned, you will get fined/charged. The penalty is the same for this key and a torrent keygen. Personally, if i spend money on software, i want to know i have a legit copy. Same way why i wouldnt buy a stolen car even if its 1/10 the price of a new car. It works, but if they find out youre in trouble.
stop quoting company regional policy in a law like manner, it is not law, nor is it illegal to sell oem seperately
you might not be authorised as a seller by microsoft but its not ILLEGAL
many of these keys are coming from countries which prevent microsoft from being able to control the keys once sold, the cruxt of this is, microsoft tried to take your right to own, and replace it with the license to use, and failed in europe, the same way ford has no control or financial interest in how much resell your car for and who too, microsoft has no control over how the oem keys are distributed once sold, just like any other goods,
people need to grow up regarding online keys, they are here, they are the future
Came for the inevitable shitstorm over bulk license keys meta circlejerk. Am not disappointed. :D
Not so much 'worshipping Microsoft' as 'doing the right thing' :\ supporting piracy is bad mkay.
Might of misunderstood. Microsoft is the one that is stealing.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/08/windows-10-microsoft-b…
I would stick with Windows 7 or a Linux Distro. Whoever uses Windows 10 is either clueless or an idiot (my opinion, no offense)
This is absolutely not legit. Anyone buying this does so at their own risk, but from industry experience I wouldn't recommend.
There is no such delivery method as 'digital OEM' (all OEM comes in physical packaging). OEM must be sold preinstalled with a PC, and as of Windows 8.1 there are no personal use rights for installing OEM.
This seller is blatantly infringing on Microsoft licensing policy.
TL;DR - AVOID.
Don't know about Windows 10, but in previous versions of Windows, you could definitely buy a copy of OEM Windows in a package with a sticker (not pre-installed). MSY and other computer shops would sell it. They just weren't meant to sell it to you on its own. But if they broke that rule, no one would know.
A "digital" OEM key would just be that package but without the media it comes on, and only the key which is all you need now.
Using an OEM key on a personal PC was OK until 8.1, no longer the case: https://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/Pages…
I understand that a 'digital OEM key' is in essence the key from the OEM physical packaging, but that is already very dodgy. These guys would be losing 50-100 per license if they were in fact opening OEM packages to sell these keys. More than likely they are leaked VL, DM or other keys.
That's why I said "previous" versions of Windows.
No one said it isn't dodgy, or that the keys are genuine. But it can't automatically be assumed they're fake because they're OEM. OEM keys exist. They're sold with hardware but there's no physical force in place that prevents someone from separating the key from the hardware.
Are these genuine OEM? Who knows. I'm just not willing to jump to a conclusion one way or another.
Microsoft say that if you are selling OEM Windows, you need to affix the COA to the PC in question. Without the COA, there's no guarantee that the key is legitimate.
Before people get up in arms and complain that these are showing up as legitimate keys - there was a case a year or so ago where a company was paid to destroy COAs, but was caught reselling the keys on. Microsoft took them to court and won and the keys ended up being invalidated.
there are legitimate keys being sold very cheap that do not come with anything ms says they should come with, however they are legitimate and they are very cheap
not to rain on anyones parade but hi its me everyones favorite key poster
i should have updated the other post but i have information and details that will end the badgering of posters by uninformed people regarding these ms windows keys
heres a link that provides further information as i know not many will take just my word for it
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/49586-windows-license-typ…
this link will help all OZbargainers make better informed purchases regarding these oem keys from microsoft
for those too lazy or dismissive to visit the link it boils down to this
you must be connected to the internet
open a cmd prompt
type slmgr -dli and press return/enter
a window will open up giving you the information you need, the weblink provides explicit instructions and photos describing differences between oem and vl and retail and msdn
i dont know if these keys are legitimate or not but i do know that this link will shut a lot of peoples mouths, its one thing to shoot down deals that are bad, quite another to shoot down good deals
this should be the definitive test of legitimacy for a microsoft windows product key
regardless of what microsoft say, legitimate keys can come legitimately naked with no coa or hologram
this should be the definitive test of legitimacy for a microsoft windows product key
Actually, it isn't.
For OEM and retail licenses, the test is (with one exception) "is there a COA?". Doesn't matter if it is the Windows logo sticker that Lenovo, Dell, etc. use with a key baked into the BIOS; the sticker with the printed 25 character product keythat places like PC Case Gear, PLE and so on use; or for retail licenses, the coloured COA on the outside of the retail box with the microprinted Microsoft band on the product key barcode sticker.
The exception? Digital keys from the Microsoft Store. In this case, you would use your Microsoft Account that you used to purchase the product to log in to the Microsoft Store and show the license there.
you are incorrect my friend, if these are indeed european keys then they can be legitimate naked keys with no sticker or hologram
these are not australian keys, and likely came from a region whose law states that microsoft lost the ability to control the software after they sold it, much like ford has no control over who buys and sells its cars once they are sold, neither does microsoft in europe, they tried to take your right to own andc replace it with license to use and badly failed, now theres millions of keys available
and because in europe you now own the KEY you can sell it to whoever you want without interference from microsoft
there is no law in australia that forces you to purchase an australian license for windows
If you had some proof there, I might believe you. You haven't got any, so I can't believe you, and nor would any reasonable person.
On the other hand, if you can show us some evidence from a reliable source, then I (and other reasonable people) can believe you.
State region which has those IP laws pls…
Just because something exists on the internet, doesn't mean its legit… Nor would the availability of something in one region under local laws transcend borders into other regions which have stronger IP protections
@klownz: you clearly havnt read the mod notes on the previous thread regarding the ms windows keys
i have provided links to establish if keys are oem or retail
i have provided tonnes of proof in previous thread
oem keys can come without coa and hologram
its upto you to look and see for yourself instead of being a doubting thomas, all the information is here if you care to look
I bought a key off a French seller recently - worked straight up and activated itself no problems. Seems legit (until it stops working). The way I see it is…. If it works then I've saved $130, if it doesn't then I've lost $20. It's worth the gamble. I should add… Free upgrade was not an option for me as this was for a new build.
so has anyone actually purchased one of these keys?
These keys probably belong to a large organisation with a site licence.
I do so love these little OzB moot courts… :P
OK I installed Windows 10 downloaded from their link with the key I purchased off them, seemed to activate fine. Did an update, checked the version with the command prompt method mentioned earlier in this thread [slmgr -dli], it says I have the retail version.
I'm not saying this is legit or it won't be flagged in the future. To be quite honest I wouldn't know I'm no Windows expert as I haven’t used Windows since Windows 7. I'm just reporting back with how it went for me.
PS/ I installed it on a Brix 5010 i3 which only had Mint Linux 17.3 on it before.
Just read it all. Interesting discussion.
If this is a non-legit, euro OEM sell off, then what about this?
https://www.downloadmsoffice.com/download-microsoft-windows/…
This popped up in my google ads. Its an Aussie business, no mention of OEM or retail so i'm not too sure what it is.
Its not the $15-25 dodgy OEM deals discussed here, yet its well short of the $180-300 on microsoft.com.
Can anybody shed some light on this please?
I'm doing the PC shuffle with the parents. Building me a new i7 rig, they get my old i5 one. They are on Vista, i am on Win7 upgraded to 10. I was gonna put their vista on my PC and my win7->10 onto the new rig. Then I realised both copies are OEM from my builds a long long time ago… After reading all of the above, I'll probably give them the i5 with my Win7->10 and then get a new Win10 for myself. Just a question of where from now.
Thanks!
ls w10 worth the upgrade? l avoided the free upgrade couple of months ago