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Statistics show that criminals target unprotected homes much more often than homes protected by alarm systems. By installing this realistic looking Imitation Home Alarm Kit your home will look more secure and may deter a criminal from choosing your home to
Hi
Thanks for your comment. We did previously stock the european style dummy alarm you have posted as it is a cheaper alternative however due to customer feedback we have discontinued it due to the blue plastic where the strobe should sit being light in colour meaning you can see nothing is inside of it.
The strobe housing on our dummy alarms are a much darker shade of blue so once it is installed it is much harder to see what is inside of it, we also provide security stickers which are not generic giving the alarm a much more authentic look.
Thanks again,
Jessica
Fair enough. Good reason.
Does the blue light flash like the real one does?
Hi There
The dummy alarm won't flash, we did trial some samples to see if a flashing light would be viable however the battery drain was a big issue. If a solar component was incorporated then it would affect the "realistic" look of the model.
Alarm systems will only generally flash when there has been an alarm event so the dummy alarm systems not having the ability to actually flash is generally not an issue provided they look realistic such as ours.
Thanks very much for your comment,
Jessica
note to self : house alarms with BCG Security alarm stickers are fake alarms.
Part of me doesn't want to tell you this because it is just natural selection.
They also sell working model strobes: http://www.bcgsecurity.com.au/index.php?id_product=27&contro…
Good luck with your night job…
lol but their website has real systems too!
edit: beat me to it.
Hi
Thanks for your message. We do sell real alarm systems & our dummy alarms are often used in conduction with a existing system on large sites for increased visibility or for home users who want a low cost deterrent that is more realistic than the standard generic systems commonly sold.
Kind Regards,
Jessica
Agreed. BCG don't look as though they make home alarms. These look like business ones. I don't think it would fool anyone.
Hello
Thanks for your comment, we do supply home & business alarms and provide warning stickers that are not generic to add to the realistic look of the product. Obviously nothing beats a working alarm system & good security measures however this product is a low cost alternative for people who feel that it would be a suitable deterrent for their home.
Kind Regards,
Jessica
Surely to cite that "Statistics show that criminals target unprotected homes much more often than homes protected by alarm systems" to sell your product unreasonably provides the illusion that your product will give all or some of the deterrent effect of real alarm systems?
Why don't you cite statistics of the effectiveness of Dummy Home Alarm Systems?
Surely the only protection offered by your product is from pretend criminals?
Oh, and no criminal outside of Qld is going to be deterred by having Brisbane (07) phone numbers on the outside of a fake siren housing.
Depends on the crook. From a few metres away, a strobe box such as this should do the job.
I monitored residential and commercial security for years, from Sydney. We monitored clients Australia-wide, so I don't see the problem with a Qld number. I do agree that a 1800 or 1300 number might be better though.
Thanks for reading my post and your support.
Honestly you could get as much (or more) deterrence from some free stickers from Neighborhood Watch.
Neighbourhood Watch! Haha, you be living in the 80's. Let's fast forward to a time where selfish people don't give a rats about their neighbours. Crims are opportunistic. If they can see a strobe from the street, they aren't going to go inspect the unit and sticker, they keep on moving.
Hi There
Thanks for your comment, this product is a simple low cost deterrent measure for people who are not wanting to invest in a home alarm system, we do state that criminals target unprotected homes more often then homes protected by an alarm system as it is a well researched fact. As stated in the description a dummy alarm may deter a criminal from breaking into your home.
Kind Regards,
Jessica
Thanks for all your comments.
Hi Jessica,
I don't dispute the fact that "Statistics show that criminals target unprotected homes much more often than homes protected by alarm systems"
What I dispute is your use of the representation that a dummy alarm such as that you are trying to sell elevates your product into that of providing substatially increased deterrance worthy of even $24.99…
Can you provide any statistics in regard to your product and it's deterrent effect.
Is your company a member of: http://www.asial.com.au/
So basically you aren't happy with the price which is an invalid neg vote, unless you can provide a link to a cheaper price.
Hi Holden
We are not currently a member of ASIAL, Unfortunately dummy alarms & there effectiveness is not well researched / reported on which is why we don't have any statistics of how well they work etc.
The description of the product is simply to explain that this product will make your home look more secure which may deter a potential thief, just like other security deterrents such as dummy cameras or warning stickers it is up to the consumer to decide whether or not it meets their needs / is worthy of the cost.
Kind Regards,
Jessica
@bcgsecurity:
Thanks for your concession that your use of the statement that "Statistics show that criminals target unprotected homes much more often than homes protected by alarm systems" should be confined to real alarms and not dummy alarms until research or statistics are provided.
Don't you agree, then that your product is also inferior to a real alarm for those outside of Queensland as any alarm in any other State or Territory will have a Local, 1300, or 1800 number?
Hi Holdenmg,
What you have quoted is a statement to give customers context as to effectiveness of alarm systems, we then state that installing this dummy alarm may deter a criminal from choosing their home to break into.
Our product is not an alarm system so it is absolutely inferior to a real alarm system. We are based in Brisbane which is why we have an 07 number, the 1800 number suggestion is definitely one we appreciate and take on board however once again it is entirely up to the customer as to whether or not they purchase a generic dummy alarm off eBay with no phone number or branding or whether they choose our one with a 07 number.
Kind Regards,
Jessica
@28Degrees:
No, I didn't say that I could buy cheaper.
I'm advancing the product is substantially worthless (at any price).
@holdenmg
"Surely to cite that "Statistics show that criminals target unprotected homes much more often than homes protected by alarm systems" to sell your product unreasonably provides the illusion that your product will give all or some of the deterrent effect of real alarm systems?"
In my opinion, it makes sense that if the outward visual appearance of this alarm box looks relatively genuine then it would have some deterrent effect compared to a home with no visible signs of an alarm system.
I would also believe that there is likely results of studies that would confirm this, but it makes perfect sense to me anyway.
Sure, but lets see the studies in respect of this product or one like it rather than rely on the representation that it "may" deter.
It is a giant leap and actually could provide a false sense of security to a buyer.
The OP doesn't claim that this thing is as good as a real alarm system, just that having the appearance that there is an alarm installed may provide some deterrent to burglars compared to a house that has no signs of an alarm system.
Makes perfect sense to me, I think you are being a bit unreasonable. The OP does not claim that this is as good as a real alarm.
@jdr:
Sure, but the appearance is what is at issue.
If it looks fake, it probably is…
Having a Qld phone number for monitoring in SA or anywhere other than Qld, is a dead giveaway.
I agree that it has to look real else it is almost useless. But if it looks real, I believe it would have a reasonable deterrent effect.
I do agree about the phone number though, unless it is for a QLD based building. I guess their problem is that these are their real stickers that they use for their real alarm systems.
That is a good point about the phone number - needs to be changed to a 1300 number or individual state phone numbers otherwise totally not believable outside Qld.
This will be excellent if a dummy burglar or imitation Apex gang comes.
Well, I wonder how many burglars are found outside the properties rolling on the ground laughing.
$25 for a small plastic box? I'll pass.
While math and stats are great and can support anything you like…
Asking for reports on studies that deterrent measures such as these is totally moot. How do you prove a negative?
It's not like we can interview burglars and ask them if they were fooled by a fake, can we? It's a visual deterrent.
If it's a meth-head or someone determined enough, I doubt anything would be effective. Even if you had a real system and 130dB siren going, I doubt they'd care if they were nutty enough.
I won't go into too much detail, but just say that single zone domestic activations aren't a top priority with Police.
So in addition to a toll-free number, maybe consider changing the wording from "Police" to something general like "24HR patrol/armed response".
I think its pretty simple.
Its not any kind of science. For $25 you get X percent of the deterrent factor of a real alarm.
The scenario is burglar/Apex gang/d1ckhead-on-ice scopes out your house, sees the box and just goes "next" until the find a house with no protection. All over in 02 of a second.
Works well enough if believable looking.
Statistics show that criminals target unprotected homes much more often than homes protected by alarm systems.
Can you please provide a link to these statistics?
Hi Orpheus,
The statement is derived from this extract from a Australian Institute of Criminology publication "households without security measures such as alarm systems and deadlocks were involved in 15 percent of home burglaries, whereas households with these types of security measures were only included in two percent of burglaries."
I am trying to find the publication name / number & will post once i have it.
Thanks,
Jessica
Hi,
Have you read this:
"Another significant deterrent was the presence of home alarms; however, there was a caveat. Information provided by the Community Engagement Division, WA Police indicates that this is effective only when home alarm systems are turned on (WAPol 2012). "The sample of active burglars were aware of fake alarm systems, fake security systems and fake cameras, none of which deterred them. Rather, they presented a further indication of a property with minimal security."
http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/tandi/48…
Do you guys ship to WA? When I put the address, it says no carriers available!
Hi Appletude
Not sure why that happened, i have just tried ordering to WA and it worked for me. Would you mind deleting the item from your cart and trying again please?
Thanks
Jessica
worked now, I had to choose a payment method before putting in address and other details
Genuine question, is the actual strobe provided with this set a real unit, IE if hooked up to a 12V feed will it flash? Thanks. Our box is very rusty so would use it to upgrade the real thing. Thanks.
Hi Techhead
Thanks for your comment, these dummy alarms have no electronic components. We do have exactly the same model with a working strobe and horn speaker which can be found here.
http://www.bcgsecurity.com.au/index.php?id_product=27&contro…
Thanks,
Jessica
I'm getting one for the inlaws as I'd rather see something than nothing at all on their house.
Sure, a burglar might see the number and have a think about it being a QLD one, but who knows if they are going to look into that much detail when there would be other possibly easier targets in the area. The inlaws house is far enough from the street that the stickers and box might be enough of a deterrence from that distance.
There's no way we can know if people have checked the place out to rob at any point, but like I said, I'd rather see something on the outside of their house than nothing.
Thanks for offering the deal bcgsecurity.
Thanks Rattle
Just ordered. Looking forward to receiving it.
Thanks Rattle, your order has come through & will be with Aus Post on monday.
Cheers,
Jessica
Cudos to the OP for their conduct in this thread. Regardless of the varying opinions on the merits of this product (FWIW, each to their own I say!), I've found your approach to customer service to be forthright and refreshing.
Hi GreenGuava
Thanks very much for the kind words.
Jessica
I agree. Wish this happened more often. :)
Could not agree more and will purchase another for my own parents when I have the money. Just can't spend any more at the moment.
You can get a more modern/current looking one cheaper anytime on eBay, e.g. this one