I have seen the previous post about the norton product and thought I might share with you how I renewed my last subscription for cheap. Norton haters comment on the deal not the product. I was emailed the licence key (you can also download if it is your first purchase).
Norton 360 1 User 3pc US Address/Australian Credit Card US $23.99
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I don't get it, can you tell me what you mean?
That second deal you linked was brilliant. Thank you for putting that out into the Ozbargain community. I have put this deal up for people who need to renew 360 in the next month or so.
i suggest they read http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/113083#comment-1539827 first
Geez guys, i acknowledge that the aboveis a good deal. However not everyone wants a harvey norman gift voucher or having to wait for a cash back.
I have read many thorough reviews that go either way, the AV comparison one is good though lots of the links/reports don't mention Symantec/Norton, the matousec one looks to be pay to review which I would take with a grain of salt.
Took me a lot of time compared to the trend micro desktop cashbacks. Here's hoping for more.
Here's a comment on the deal. I can get the same functionality for $0. So I don't think it's a deal.
A legitimate copy of Norton's for $0 is a great deal. Well done to you for finding it. Is it still current?, if so please post.
Key word = 'functionality'…I don't wish to get a legitimate copy of Nortons, so I haven't sought it for $0.
But I can get anti virus, firewall, web address scanning & whatever else it wishes to offer for $0.Then I really respect you as a fellow ozbargainer.
If you are talking about piracy then this may not be the place for it as ozbargain generates income from companies whose policy it is not to advertise on sites where it is condoned or suggested.
If you are talking about a free version of a different anti virus/firewall software then I need to say they are not equal. I worked in Electronic Warfare for 10 years and have seen all of them tested and Nortons is pretty good, not the best in the private sector, but the best mainstream where hardware is not introduced into the product
.Norton is about as functional at protecting your computer from virus' as a condom over your ethernet cable is. This is the point seanbsydney is trying to make.
The product is an atrocious resource hog and no-one should be paying money for it, you can get equally as good protection from any of the free AV services (MSE, AVG, Avast).
As for firewall protection, typically a combination of a properly configured Windows Firewall and a NAT enabled router with inbound ports closed is typically sufficient. Many years ago when I used to use ZoneAlarm on a PC directly connected to the cable modem (so a DHCP leased address direct from my ISP) I was getting dozens of hits on the firewall every day (99.99% of them always non-malicious). I installed a simple Netgear router because I now had 2 computers in the home and after that I got no hits on the PC firewall, so I eventually uninstalled it.
For the educated and intelligent PC users it's actually very easy to use no anti-virus software… I wouldn't recommend it, but working in the IT industry it's usually our most PC illiterate folks that get virus'. Typically, from those internet pop ups that tell you your computer is infected which users then click "Scan Now" to download the virus. Or from even worse, blatantly obvious virus emails with attachments.
How Symantec/Norton is still the industry leader for antivirus software still amazes me, as it offers no real time protection, just the illusion of it.
You really sound like you know what you are doing regarding security. Many people use their time to gain other skill sets which leads them to simply download nortons and carrying on with their internet use.
Well yes, considering I work as a system administrator I do like to think I know what I'm doing… I don't claim I'm always right but I've been working with PC's, networks and Windows on a technical level for the better part of the last decade.
However, when I was dealing with ZoneAlarm and NAT based firewalls I was still a student in high school and not even sure what field I was going to be going into at that time. At that time at least it was plainly obvious that Norton was a broken application… Maybe it's improved recently… but you know what, too late Norton.
I can't even count on my hands how many PC's I've given speed boosts to by simply uninstalling Norton and installing a free application… which then typically went on to find malicious files Norton had ignored.
The only reason Norton is still the biggest AV name today is because they have deals with almost every hardware manufacturer to be bundled with their system… The only other one that does this is McAfee, and their product is no better.
Norton is about as functional at protecting your computer from virus' as a condom over your ethernet cable is.
I'd have more faith in your expertise with antivirus products if you knew what the plural of "virus" was.
For the educated and intelligent PC users it's actually very easy to use no anti-virus software…
A drive-by malware infection - using a zero-day vulnerability - could infect your machine without you noticing it; and you have literally no defence against it.
I installed a simple Netgear router because I now had 2 computers in the home and after that I got no hits on the PC firewall, so I eventually uninstalled it.
….the reason you put a firewall on your PC, is it protects it from LAN/WLAN attacks when another machine on your network (laptop, phone, printer, whatever) gets compromised, and the malware on it starts looking for local targets. You won't get any internal firewall hits until that happens.
I'm not saying buy Norton's, I'm just saying that it takes time and effort to keep writing malware definitions for the latest threats, and somebody has to pay for that. I don't know how the free AV companies can keep their stuff up-to-date, without an income stream to pay their analysts with.
I absolutely hated the older versions of norton, but to compare the current version of norton to a version from 10 years ago is like saying Windows 7 is crap because I used Windows ME and it was horrible.
I'd have more faith in your expertise with antivirus products if you knew what the plural of "virus" was.
I made a grammatical error… hardly discredits me.
the reason you put a firewall on your PC, is it protects it from LAN/WLAN attacks when another machine on your network (laptop, phone, printer, whatever) gets compromised, and the malware on it starts looking for local targets. You won't get any internal firewall hits until that happens.
In the last 10 years this hasn't happened to me because I haven't actually had a compromised system attached to my network… My wifi is secure and I know what gets plugged in.
I'm not saying buy Norton's, I'm just saying that it takes time and effort to keep writing malware definitions for the latest threats, and somebody has to pay for that. I don't know how the free AV companies can keep their stuff up-to-date, without an income stream to pay their analysts with.
A lot of the quality free AV on the market (MSE, AVG and Avast for example) tend to have paid versions that include extra features such as firewalls and spam filters and such… they would have enough income from those to stay afloat.
I will say this, there are some free AV programs you shouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. I do agree with a lot of your points but from my experience the only infected PC's I've seen in the last 10 years have been from end user stupidity… it's always easy to figure out as when I'm cleaning up corporate laptops I find bittorrent clients.
Does it register fine in Australia?
Just ask because I got Office on amazon and had to use a VPN to register (after that it is fine though)
It certainly did. My U.S amazon account is 5 months old and I already have a few PC games with them. My 360 product renewed a few seconds after I put the key in.
Awesome, yeah got heaps of games from Amazon, was a bit unsure about software (especially after MS Office experience)
If there are no good cashback offers etc when I have to renew next year I will use.
If you don't mind getting gift card from HN, I think this one is a better deal with 5 devices including : PC, Macs and mobile phones and then cash back from Norton.
lol. you should have got paid to use their product(mobile version) up to $150.