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  moolah on 05/04/2013 - 11:47

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  Clicked on link expecting free games :(

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    iammimix on 05/04/2013 - 11:50

    +2

    same haha! saw free and didnt even read the rest of the title.

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  camel_racer on 05/04/2013 - 11:49

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  Title is a little misleading.

  Is the 500W power supply enough to run those cards in xfire?

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    bentan77 on 05/04/2013 - 11:51

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    More importantly why would you even crossfire 6570s?

    If you're after a computer to play games I wouldn't really recommend either of these builds.

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      MonocleMoose on 05/04/2013 - 11:56

      Care to suggest any other builds bentan77? I have basically zero interest in putting it together myself anymore - so any build under $1k you can point out somewhere else would be quite interesting to me…

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        ItsMeAgro on 05/04/2013 - 14:06

        +1

        reddit.com/r/buildapc has plenty. If one doesn't suit your needs, experts will happily propose a custom build to suit your needs.

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        PenKnight on 06/04/2013 - 12:31

        I am in the middle of getting something under $850.
        All prices from MSY
        (borrowing the formatting from OP :)

        CPU: i5 3470 ($193)
        COM: Asus P8B75-M ($72)
        RAM: 8gb ram Kit ($65) (varies +-5 for difference brands)
        HDD: Seagate 2tb ($93)
        OPT: DVDRW ($19)
        GFX: MSI 7870 2GB OC ($229)
        CAS: Thermaltake V6 ($75) ( could get cheaper for about $60)
        PSU: HCG-520 ($83)
        Total at the moment = $829

        Add in
        Wireless: WN881ND ($19)
        OS: Windows 7 ($95)
        Build fee: ($90) (this varies as well, lowest is $70 but can go up cause MSY says from)

        Total = $1033.

        To get under 1k.
        -lower hdd to 1tb
        -remove wireless
        -change case.
        Could get around $950.

        I would have liked to go the 7950 for an extra 50-60 but then need to up the PSU to the HCG 650 for another I'll be building this myself, so i save on most of the add in cost :).

        Hope that helps :)

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        bentan77 on 07/04/2013 - 10:12

        Try switch to the Powercolor 7870 Myst edition if you can get one. They're around the speed of a 7950 but still cost around $230.

        Also a 7950 should still work fine on that PSU, most graphic cards you buy these days don't use that much power.
        http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/…

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        [Deactivated] on 07/04/2013 - 10:42

        Why can't you build it yourself? Save yourself $90 that could be put towards a better gfx card. Honestly, putting together a new pc together is about as difficult as mixing all the ingredients of a chocolate cake together then baking it. Not to mention there's a billion do-it-yourself dummy guide videos on the net if you have never done it before.

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    CyberGenesys on 05/04/2013 - 11:59

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    GFX: 8GB ATI HD6570 Graphics (2x 4GB Cards, CROSSFIRE)

    I didn't even know such a low end card could be crossfired. I doubt these cards have the additional 6pin power connector so would only draw a maximum of 75W each. That combined with the rest of the PC would be less than 400W, I also assume the PSU is not a 'Real' 500W…

    Also, these cards are not actually part of the AMD Never Settle Reloaded Promotion (which is where the free games come from), so deal is a little dodgy. Cards should be 79xx, 78xx or 77xx series GPUs, so it sounds like the seller is trying to clear some promo cards.

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      Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 12:15

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      Hi Cyber,

      These video cards can be crossfired and the motherboard does have the 16x ports to support the full video card power.

      As for the Video Cards, they are not part of the AMD Never Settle Reloaded Promotion but as we bought such a large quantity from our supplier we managed to twist their arm for the games vouchers too - which only works in our customers favour!

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    Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 12:19

    Hi camel_racer,
    Title modified.
    And yes, the PSU in this machine is enough to run the cards in xfire

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  SHPION on 05/04/2013 - 11:55

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  1. Misleading header!
  2. 4GB Ram Gaming PC? LOL!
  3. 500GB HDD Gaming PC? ROFL!!!
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      SHPION on 05/04/2013 - 12:03

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      I didn't noticed from the first look:
      Gaming PC with single 5400rpm HDD )))

      ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!

      It might be for hard core solitaire gamers.
      What about adding single button PS/2 mouse with ball?

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        Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 12:16

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        Hi SHPION, tell me what games you play and i'll tell you their HDD requirement… 500GB is more than adequate for a gaming PC. If you want larger, we can upgrade this to a larger HDD

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        Charybdia on 05/04/2013 - 13:42

        I am gaming on a 3200 rpm 2.5 inch harddrive and it works fine for my purposes (Dota 2, Dragon Age Origins, Starcraft 2)

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      Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 12:20

      +1

      Hi Spathy, title modified to be clearer.

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    CarbonTwelve on 05/04/2013 - 12:00

    +1

    4GB RAM is fine for gaming, as is 500GB HDD. Not sure what your issues are with those…

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      Elijha on 05/04/2013 - 12:06

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      4GB wasn't any good for BF3 .. and that is 2 years old now.

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        CarbonTwelve on 05/04/2013 - 12:25

        +5

        Here's someone getting 100 fps with 4GB RAM, so yes, 4GB was fine for BF3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XKZxw_lZxg

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      CyberGenesys on 05/04/2013 - 12:06

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      4GB RAM is fine for gaming

      I use more memory simply browsing the net

      as is 500GB HDD

      Just checked the size of my Origin and Steam folders (approx 90 games from various humble bundles and indie packs), 457GB…. so yeah it would fit, only just

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        CarbonTwelve on 05/04/2013 - 12:17

        +4

        The people buying a cheap pre-made system aren't likely to have 450GB+ of games. Besides which, I can say I'm a fairly 'hardcore' gamer (~300 games in my Steam account) and even I get by with ~200GB of disk space for games.

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        CyberGenesys on 05/04/2013 - 13:01

        I think people looking to buy a cheap pre-made system are exactly the type of people who have the same collection as me. Iv'e only purchased from humble bundles, indie gala etc. the only Origin games I have are the 10 freebies thanks to their store glitch. I'm betting you don't have all your 300 games downloaded on your 200gb space though. Sure 200gb is fine if your happy to delete a game so you can fit another.

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        CarbonTwelve on 05/04/2013 - 13:18

        +3

        You're right, I don't have them all downloaded, because it's rather unnecessary, and even then you can backup games to an external HDD if you really want to avoid re-downloading things. Certainly you're not going to be playing 400GB+ of games concurrently.

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    ItsMeAgro on 05/04/2013 - 15:09

    +1

    Why pick on those? They are fine.

    The HD 6570 is the bottleneck here.

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  CarbonTwelve on 05/04/2013 - 12:00

  +3

  As has been mentioned, these builds really aren't much good for gaming. 4GB is fairly useless on a 6570, and it's very misleading to suggest that crossfire is equivalent to doubling the video RAM given that each card has a copy of the same data (meaning the game still only has 4GB usable memory).

  At the end of the day, spending the bulk of the budget on the CPU at the cost of sacrificing on the GPU makes for a fairly bad gaming system. An i3 or FX4300 with a 7850 would be a MUCH better build.

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    SHPION on 05/04/2013 - 12:09

    It's also a BIG question which MB is used for crossfire…
    For this price I expect something with single PCIv2 x16 slot. Then you can just put second GFX card in the box near this "Gaming PC" - same effect.

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      Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 12:19

      Hi SHPION, the board used does have 2x PCIv2 x16 slot.

      ASRock / 970 / 4 x DDR3 / 2 x PCI-E x 16 / 6 x SATA3 / 2 x USB3.0 / GBLAN / RAID / 7.1CH AUDIO / CROSSFIREX / ATX

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        CarbonTwelve on 05/04/2013 - 12:27

        Exactly which 970 board is that? If it's a 970 Pro3, the second slot only runs at 4x.

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  easternculture on 05/04/2013 - 12:01

  where IS my free game !!

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    Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 12:17

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    Hi easternculture, your free game comes with the PC you purchase :D I have modified the title to make it clearer.

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  bargainjargon on 05/04/2013 - 12:05

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  Oh geez. It would've been awesome if you posted this a few days ago before I bought some replacement parts. PC offer 1 doesn't cost too much more than what I spent. Anyone got a time machine?

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    ItsMeAgro on 05/04/2013 - 14:59

    This machine is very slow for gaming though. What did you get?

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  Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 12:14

  Sorry if the title was misleading, we have changed it now to be clearer.

  4GB RAM is more than enough for PC gaming, if you'd like more we can upgrade this in store.

  As for a 500GB HDD not being enough for gaming, what games are you playing? Most games are only 15-30GB so 500GB will easily store 15+ games

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  [Deactivated] on 05/04/2013 - 12:32

  +3

  Deal seems OK, not sure 4 negs are needed.

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    Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 12:47

    +3

    Well the title was a fair point, but I have since changed it! Maybe they will reconsider ;) Thanks for the + beakeroo!

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    ItsMeAgro on 05/04/2013 - 14:34

    It's because it smells a bit dodgy.

    Crossfiring HD 6570s!? This is a really bizarre setup. Those are below bottom-end GPU. For less than the price of two, you could get a card more than twice as fast:

    2 x HD 6570 = $120
    HD 7770 = $110

    And of course, crossfiring two cards is nowhere near twice as fast as a single card. Maybe Visiontech got a bunch of these cards super cheap?

    Some people might assume the second PC is fast because it says crossfire and be very disappointed. You could build a faster PC for that price.

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      Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 14:39

      Where on earth did you find the 4GB HD6670 for $60?

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        ItsMeAgro on 05/04/2013 - 15:07

        Your listing says HD 6570, not 6670.

        Either way, 4GB will not make any difference with such a slow card. You need to go above 1080p, and pile on a lot of anti-aliasing etc to use more than 1GB on your GPU, and you can't realistically do that on such a slow card.

        I suppose they make them to trick people who don't know what they are buying into thinking its an OK GPU.

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        CyberGenesys on 05/04/2013 - 15:36

        +2

        Also depends where you are reading:

        Buy selected PC's with an ATI HD5670 graphics card and receive BioShock Infinite + Tomb Raider

        or

        _GFX: 8GB ATI HD6570 Graphics

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  rattle on 05/04/2013 - 13:21

  I'm a photographer and edit photos often with Photoshop and various other programs and want to get back into gaming, especially now the new Bioshock is out.
  Sytem #2 with the upgraded card should do, yeah?

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    Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 13:59

    Hi rattle,
    A 3GB ATI HD7950 would demolish 2D rendering in Photoshop. It's one of the more high end video cards on the market and would be more than suitable for you.

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    CarbonTwelve on 05/04/2013 - 14:08

    You might want to look into an nVidia card instead of AMD though. nVidia supports CUDA which a number of Photoshop and similar apps can take advantage of.

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    ItsMeAgro on 05/04/2013 - 14:21

    Yes and no. The HD 6570 video card is considered below the "bottom end". They cost about $60. Crossfiring two ($120) won't add more than 50% or so to game performance.

    You can get a faster bottom end card, HD 6670, for $65, and a much faster card, HD 7770, for about $110.

    HD 6570 won't run Bioshock Infinite on high settings (although it will come close if your screen is 720p, only because the game engine is well optimised). You're looking at a console-level gaming machine, when the same price or a few dollars more could get you several times the performance.

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  camel_racer on 05/04/2013 - 13:59

  I strongly recommend to anyone considering these systems to upgrade the HDD to a 7200RPM - 5400 is too slow to be used as a main drive (these are mostly used in external drives).

  Other than the HDDs this is not a terrible deal though - if you are going to be super picky about pre-built systems then a custom build is obviously more suited to you.

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  aim54x on 05/04/2013 - 14:05

  Rep….do you guys ever do any Mini ITX systems? These prices for these are pretty good, and with the caveats already mentioned these look good. I am however more interested in a competent, budget Mini ITX gaming rig.

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    Store RepVisionTech @ Vision Tech on 05/04/2013 - 14:17

    +1

    Hi aim54x, we can definately build you a Mini ITX system - send us an email with your desired specs and we can send you a quote.
    [email protected]

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      aim54x on 05/04/2013 - 14:21

      Thanks I will certainly do….I am struggling with working out parts that fit etc…and am torn between staying AMD or moving to Intel (although there seems to be more Mini ITX options in motherboards)

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        moolah on 05/04/2013 - 17:05

        If you're planning to do some gaming, go with an Intel i5(k/non-k depends on overclocking or not), and avoid cases which have a PSU size limit (SFX) like the Silverstone SG05. That will put a constraint on upgrade options (limited to 450w PSU) so GFX card has to be efficient with relatively low power consumption.

        Personally, I'm running a rig with:
        Case: Silverstone SG05 (with 450w 80+ Bronze rating)
        CPU: Intel i5 3470
        Mobo: Asus H77-I (no Wifi/Bluetooth as compared to other mini-itx offerings but I'm going with quality and don't need those features)
        Ram: 2x8GB DDR
        SSD: 256GB OCZ Vertex 4
        HDD: WD 1TB
        GPU: ATI HD 7770 1GB (contemplating an upgrade to HIS ATI HD 7850 1GB for $178 and free bioshock+tomb raider bundle which can be sold for ~$30 on ebay)

        Before my upgrade to the above configuration 4 months ago, I was using an AMD Phenom II X2 555BE, 4GB DDR2 SoDIMM on a J&W Tech MINIX™ 785G-SP128MB mobo with ATI HD 5770 which drew more power and ran slower than my current build. It had problems starting up occasionally when overclocked and would shut itself down when the load is high (whilst CPU is overclocked). That lasted me for a little over 2 years till I got sick of the speeds and couldn't resist the SSD deals from Amazon during the last Black Friday.

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        CyberGenesys on 05/04/2013 - 17:31

        I would recommend getting things like wifi and BT built in (eg Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI). Mini-ITX mobos don't have enough peripheral ports to wast with the addon cards or usb dongles.

        I did buy a HIS HD7850 and sold both of the games for $40 + $50, made it a pretty cheap upgrade from my HD7770 :)

        My main gripe is that most MITX cases are tower or cube form factor and most of the desktop/horizontal cases don't support a) full size graphics cards b) a power supply suitable for said graphics card.

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  Purt on 05/04/2013 - 14:21

  You get crysis and bioshock from any place you buy a 7950 from: http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsreloaded.…

  Seems like you're just taking the codes from people who don't ask for them with their 7800 series graphics cards and giving them away with your systems. http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsreloaded.…

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  ItsMeAgro on 05/04/2013 - 15:21

  Suggestion for Rep:

  We really like your attempts at good value systems, but you need some help with budget gaming-performance builds. Have you researched them on places like reddit.com/r/buildapc?

  A PC with a $180 HIS HD 7850 1GB card and a cheap i3 would get about triple the game performance as your Domin8 and cost less.