Looking at a 2018ish Mitsubishi Outlander, about 99K kms.
Serviced at 1.2k, 15k, 30k, 45k, then nothing until a service at 81k, another at 93k, and that was the most recent 5/2024. Passed a RWC this week and then we are doing a pre-purchase inspection. If the inspection is all clear, is that still good enough?
Cheers!
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You sure you don’t need us to point out that you can buy a brand new BYD Dolphin Essential for just a few $ more?
Is Dolphin an SUV?
The end goal is not to buy an EV for everyone. Especially a tiny one like that
As someone who traded up from a Outlander to an Atto 3, yeah, the Atto 3 isnt even as big as the Outlander. If they need and Outlander, a Dolphin isnt going to cut it.
Step 1: a PPSR check https://www.revscheck.com.au/
Step 2: a check by a mechanic not associated with the buyer.
@pegaxs anything to add?
Definitely better. Cheers.
PPSR?? And what, waste $2. Also +1 for using the government PPSR site and not these shady sites that do the same thing but charge $30+. But if OP is buying it from a dealer, I am pretty sure, by law, they must do a PPSR check and must offer the car without any encumberance. You can ask the dealer for a copy of the PPSR report and they should have it on file… But for personal sales, 100%, get a PPSR check.
Step 1a: Stop at Dan Murphy's for a box of darts and a carton of piss on your way to Uncle Ian's.
Step 3: Post on OzBargain and make sure to not mention any other pertinent details in your post like price, trim level (LS, ES, ZS, FWD/AWD, diesel, PHEV), state, colour, condition, you know, all the stuff people would need to know to make an informed advise. (InB4: all the rabid screeching that OP has mentioned these items… Yes, they have now, but they didn't in their OP.)
Step 4: If you were asking about "free/introductory" driving lessons last week and jumping right to buying a $25k Outlander this week, your budget priorities may be all (fropanity) up. I would also spend some time getting insurance quotes on a 2018 Diesel Outlander for someone with zero driving skills. The quotes may be more than the car is worth.
If OP (or anyone buying a car) is in NSW, I would also run the rego number through RMS rego check and see what the last 3 vehicle odometer readings are. Looking for odometer tampering.
Things to look out for are;
Obvious rollback (massive odometer drop from one year to next)
12 Jul 2024: 99,457km
24 Jul 2023: 248,973km
17 Jul 2022: 210,830km
Hidden rollback (has 3 "RWC" in very short span of time to purge old odometer readings.)
4 Jan 2025: 99,457km
30 Dec 2024: 99,450km
28 Dec 2024: 99,448km
What does the owner say about the missing services? Having service records in a book is only part of the equation.
i can ask , it's a used dealership —would they know ?
They probably won't tell you due to privacy laws .
you could try and sweet talk them about service history , as your currently considering buying
would they know ?
The bigger question is, would you believe them?
It’s not in their interest to tell you its missed 40ish k kms as it will devalue it - especially given at those kms that it potentially wasn’t serviced for around 2.5 years.
YMMV
Im surprised a used dealer hasnt chucked the service booklet if its incomplete. Have heard they often flick through and if its not filled out properly they think its worse than if it missing so they throw them away.
If the 45k and 81k service is done by the same place you might be able to call the service department and see if they have the service history on file.
May have just been a lazy owner not bringing the log book.
true. I once went to service my car at a toyota dealer but forgot the logbook, they said they'd fill it in the following service but never did.
This, I just bought a car with 340k on it. The service book has I think 4 or 5 stamps in it, I called the place that has been servicing it and they confirmed it had had every service at basically every required interval. They weren't able to send me the records because privacy laws and I wasn't the registered owner at the time, but it is what it is.
the 45k was stamped at a Mitsu dealer
and 81k at the current selling used dealer
then 93k at another mitsu dealer ship
Ask mistubishi if its been serviced.
BUT, if you dont get a response and since youve asked this question on a bargain forum, you arent the right person to buy a diesel CVT vehicle without a proven service history. Find another one.
state? petrol / diesel? (Check for common issues in various models)
Mostly ppsr and independent mechanic checks are enough.
vic, disel
Not vin diesel?
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Nah, it's his brother
with 4N14 engine ? there is a design fault in that engine on balance shaft, I was also looking for an outlander and ended up getting AWD IX35 (D4HA engine + traditional auto transmission) for a lower price.
https://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/threads/4n14-engine-balanc…
Outlander is also CVT isn;t it ? make sure you change CVT oil even though it is not mentioned as a service item, better safe than sorry with those CVTs.
nice info,,
the Engine number is 4N15xxxxxx fortunately? on the ppsr they proviuded
yea CVT gearbox.
one thing i dont like about mitsu is their log booklet has no details about whats being serviced & their pricing is POA.
when should the cvt fluid be requested and frequency? at regular service, or "supplementary service" whatever that is any basic at mycar
https://www.mycar.com.au/servicing/essential-servicing
i note the logbook had skipped all "supplementary" ones in between the regular service
@capslock janitor: looks like engine is 4N15, not 4N14 then. I don't know much about that. One of my friends got a petrol ASX with similar CVT and changed CVT oil at around 120k km, cost was like $300 using Mitsubishi genuine oil and labour at local mechanic. Better to check a bit on the change interval as CVTs are kinda notorious (specially Nissan, and Mitsubishi is kinda same company along with Renault for years).CVT oil change is not done at any place routinely unless we arrange it to extend the lifetime of CVT.
I think all log books are like that now, same for my IX35. I think supplementary service is for additional basic service like oil and filter change if you are using it in harsh conditions. Mine also has all services done at correct time, nothing for supplementary.
Check how clean it is through the oil cap and listen for any unusual noises.
New car warranty may have been 5 years requiring service every year or 15,000 klm? From memory, you were supposed to get a service very soon after purchase (thought it was at 1000klm.)
Once the warranty period was over, might just have gotten services when he needed to check something or whatever.
One of the NA kinder bought a lancer around then and theirs had conditions something like that.
Wouldn't trust a car that's gone 40k km without a service.
Means it was neglected
You dont know it wasnt serviced, just that its not recorded. If its been serviced af 80 and 90 theres a faur chance its just a lazy mechanic not filling out the book.
You dont know it wasnt serviced, just that its not recorded
Without proof of it being serviced the assumption is that it wasn't.
You can't prove that it was a lazy mechanic/owner, so why even bother taking the risk? Move on. there's plenty of other cars on the market with full service histories.
. If its been serviced af 80 and 90 theres a faur chance its just a lazy mechanic not filling out the book.
I've got a bridge to sell you
I've got a bridge to sell you
Meh. Havent bought a second hand car yet where Ive actively checked the service records.
Since when is an Outlander a 4WD?
Anything is a 4wd if you just send it…..
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I have 2014 diesel outlander aspire
it's been awesome.
only major issue was a clogged intake manifold - $1400 repair at 180,000Kms (6 months ago). these earlier gen 3 didn't have the same waste system as newer models.
double check on the those service points.
I can't fault my outlander, and have looked at buying another when this one dies, but it keeps going.
I agree, got a neglected 2010 one over 300k, bullet proof. Cost me less than my Kluger in repairs.
If the final check works out you won't look back. Good on you for being cautious too.
36k between services.
You'd want an explanation on that.
if you believe @Euphemistic it was definitely 100% done, just not recorded and doesn't matter. lol
For a car under warranty, you can assume if it wasn't recorded it wasn't done.
My car, well out of warranty hasn't had a logbook service after 105k. I just do it myself. Car runs well.
After a certain age, logbooks don't matter, but 60k service isn't one of them.
What if the explanation is that it was done but not put in the book?
@Euphemistic: The dealer/mechanic should have a record of it.
If not and no receipt, then it wasn’t done
Going 30k without a service is a major red flag with a high potential for there to be an engine sludging issue.
Even the factory 15k interval is a bit too long if the vehicle is used in stop/start traffic & short trips. Every 10k is a better interval.
Who knows, depends on the price really.