Up to $5,900 off BYD Dolphin Premium, Seal Range, Atto 3 Premium & Sealion 6 Dynamic + On-Road Costs @ BYD Automotive

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Continuing on from this deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/888203

Let the price war continue!

BYD have now announced further price reductions across the full range of vehicles for 2025.

Model 2024 Price 2025 Price Difference
Atto 3 Essential Not available $39,990
Atto 3 Standard $44,990 Not available
Atto 3 Premium $47,499 $44,990 -$2509
Dolphin Essential Not available $29,990
Dolphin Dynamic $36,890 Not available
Dolphin Premium $42,890 $36,990 -$5900
Seal Dynamic $49,888 $46,990 -$2898
Seal Premium $55,798 $52,990 -$2808
Seal Performance $65,748 $61,990 -$3758
Sealion 6 Dynamic $48,990 $45,990 -$3000
Sealion 6 Premium $52,990 $52,990
Shark 6 Premium $57,900 $57,900

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Comments

  • +57

    I recommend to wait a bit longer & it will be cheaper.

    • +112

      around 2028, we can pull the trigger for 2024 model

      • +2

        unless battery tech improved significantly in the new model, why shouldn't you go for a cheaper, but older model?

        • +5

          Blade 2 battery coming out this year with much better range

          • +1

            @Broomstick: And who knows what price? If selling alongside these models, it will be priced approximately

          • @Broomstick: You mean power density to weight. Range is more a function of efficiency than battery

            • +1

              @willoz: Energy density per kg will be increased which will give better range. Assuming they will keep the battery the same size. I heard figures close to 1000km WLTP which will equate to maybe 8-900km real usage.

        • Do you mean a cheaper used byd?

    • +138

      Never buy anything ever because the next version/discount will happen in the future ,

      • +63

        Worked well for me so far …

        Missed out on the COVID price explosion in cars … my 16 year old Peugeot does not depreciate anymore (can't … it's 0 value) but drives perfectly fine. Would love a new EV (especially as I have a 13KW solar system for free charging) but still can't justify the cost when my old car still works. But in 2028 … I might get the 2024 model … :-).

        • +16

          I am still holding my 3090 because I believe 9090 will be out eventually. let's HODL!!!

        • Living the dream mate. Good on Yaaa!!! We might get a new company by 2028 which may supply cars on Distilled water.

        • +1

          nice - this is also by far the most environmentally move

          • @Sapiens:

            this is also by far the most environmentally move

            I'm not sure that's true.

            The environmental impact of operating an old car for a couple of years, with relatively low efficiency and potentially high emissions, can be greater than the environmental impact of manufacturing a new, highly efficient EV and operating it for that same period of time. I suspect it would strongly depend on the two vehicles in question and source of electricity.

            Nonetheless, keeping the old car is extremely likely to be the most financially optimal choice until something important breaks.

            • +2

              @klaw81: 20 year old Prius - Hold my beer.

            • +1

              @klaw81: It will be the most environmentally friendly option (and the cheapest) I agree that it will depend on the car but also on the usage - when I would drive a lot a new car might make sense.

              It's a small 207cc. The car uses around 7-8l petrol on 100km and only gets driven around 5,000km a year . It's only 3rd party insured ($350) as it has no more value. An oil change is done every 1.5 years. New Pirelli tyres from the last deal.

              We try to use mainly public transport and walk/bike to the supermarket. We will keep it until a major repair comes up and then swap to a small electric car to make use of our excess electricity from solar.

              In my opinion electric cars will still get cheaper - and we all got so used to big cars with all fancy gimmicks that we even don't know anymore what a small basic car is.

              • +1

                @mini_wombat:

                It's a small 207cc. The car uses around 7-8l petrol on 100km and only gets driven around 5,000km a year

                Yep, agree that's a good choice, from both a financial and environmental perspective.

                We will keep it until a major repair comes up and then swap to a small electric car to make use of our excess electricity from solar.

                An excellent plan. If you can hold out for another year or two, small, lightly-used EVs will be much more affordable and will likely be good for 10-15 years of reliable, trouble-free and very cheap motoring.

                we even don't know anymore what a small basic car is

                A common perspective, but in reality the regulatory requirements for new cars means a lot of "fancy gimmick" stuff is unavoidable. Reversing cameras are a legal requirement on all new vehicles, which means a screen on the dash is mandatory. Various driver assist features like active collision avoidance are essential to get a decent ANCAP score. The list goes on - the days of truly basic cars with no electronics are well and truly over, and they're never coming back. The entry level MG4, BYD Dolphin etc represent the most "basic" new vehicles possible under current regulations.

                • +1

                  @klaw81: Agree with all these saftey features. Some are really good and very helpful (miss a camera and some avoidance tech in my car). but there is lots of tech which is just for comfort (massage and heated seats, electric tailgate, oversized and rotatable displays, sound systems, keyless entry with RFID and phone apps, panoramic roofs, … I bet I can make the BYD Essentials another 5K cheaper by taking out stuff.

                  But the real problem is the size of new cars. Every new model creeps up a few centimeters. To the extend that our parking spaces are no longer big enough. This has to stop. We carry around excess weight of steel in our cars which get the efficiency down.

                  Never understood the appeal of these massive cars we have in Australia - but seems I am alone. 20 years ago I thought the Smart is an amazing vehicle and soon we will drive around in these small space saving cars with no more parking issues … I was so wrong … :-( I guess the profit margin will be much smaller for smaller cars (except something like a Mini or Fiat 500).

                  • +1

                    @mini_wombat:

                    I bet I can make the BYD Essentials another 5K cheaper by taking out stuff

                    I agree you could save a bit of money and weight on a few things, but I also think you're over-estimating how much those some of those things actually cost.

                    The cost of RFID keyless entry and a large touchscreen are almost negligible when you're using the same system for every BYD single vehicle (>4m units per year).

                    Similarly, using a touchscreen for most vehicle controls is actually a measure used to simplify designs and lower cost. Creating a more basic manual control scheme for cheaper cars might actually increase development and tooling costs.

                    Glass roofs may cost a little more, but they also make car assembly much easier and more efficient, and also add a bit of headroom and make small cars feel much bigger.

                    Also I'm pretty sure that the Dolphin Essentials doesn't have a power tailgate, heated and massage seats, or a rotating display.

                    One of the biggest savings that manufacturers like BYD can achieve is by simplifying their offerings to reduce complexity. Which is why they usually only have 1 or 2 interior trim levels, and a choice of maybe 4 or 5 colours.

                    But the real problem is the size of new cars. Every new model creeps up a few centimeters. To the extend that our parking spaces are no longer big enough.

                    I agree that size bloat (perhaps that's not a strong enough word) is a massive issue. I have absolutely no idea why so many people feel the need to have gigantic cars - they're absolutely dreadful to drive in my opinion.

              • @mini_wombat: I thought you meant 207cc as in 0.2L for a moment there.

                • @Duff5000: Haha … that engine size might be a bit too small even for my needs … ;-)

            • @klaw81: Think of it as recycling.

            • @klaw81:

              The environmental impact of operating an old car for a couple of years,

              Very valid.

              But also look at the environment around you/us. Your/our "neighbors".
              With everyone around us buying brand new diesel pickup trucks the positive, individual, impact will be negligible.

              Remember 1 (one) dog owner not "cleaning" after(!) ruins the whole footpath (smells&looks!).

              • +1

                @LFO: Meh, I can't ever control what my neighbors do, only my own actions.

                I bought an EV for the driving experience, the convenience and the reduction in running costs. The reduced environmental impact is a side benefit.

                As a bonus, I gave my Hilux-owning friend a drive and he was an instant convert. He needs a ute for now, but once he moves back to town he's selling it for an EV.

        • Life is short. Spend early and enjoy it yourself early. Worst thing ever:Past away without spending the money you make. While some new dude driving a mustug which is bought with your money. And beating ur son, in the house.

          • @Derek Unbelievable:

            Worst thing ever:Past away without spending the money you make

            I had an uncle who loved fishing but was too busy working to ever go on a proper fishing trip. He passed away suddenly, three days into his retirement. The boat and all the fishing gear he'd been setting up for his retirement celebration holiday never left the garage.

      • This explains my 2000 Laser which I have been aiming to replace for the last 10 or so years.

    • +10

      HODL!!

      • +10

        the price is falling sharper than crypto :"(

        • +7

          Crypto has gone up a up lot since November though….just like Tulip mania.

          • @dealhunter52: Tether has run out of ink, and the finbros are cashing in.

    • +6

      Yep, wait til the first wave of used cars really hit the market in numbers

      • -4

        Bye bye Teletubbies. Bye bye Elo, bye bye Maga, bye bye Vane, bye bye Turp.

      • +15

        We're about 6 months from the first 3 year novated leases coming off. These people bought their cars at 10-15k premiums over current pricing. Will be interesting to see how it all goes.

        • +3

          Why? The cars will just be sold at what the market price is. If it is lower, oh well. Novated Leases aren't made on the premise that the car holds the value of current pricing.

          • +11

            @serpserpserp: You're correct in that they'll be sold at what the market price is, however the point of their comment is that there will potentially be a sudden influx of supply of used models once these leases expire, which will in turn reduce the market price.

            • +5

              @Shekster: People will choose to keep them if they have low residual values

              • +1

                @Tleyx: I have a novated lease at the moment. The residual value of any vehicle on a novated lease at the end of that lease is set by the ATO as a percentage of the starting value and the % is only determined by the length of the lease, nothing else comes into it.

              • @Tleyx:

                low residual values

                Residual value is fixed with novated lease, only market value is variable.

            • +1

              @Shekster: Which as I recall was the stated plan by the gov at the time.
              Lots of 3yo cheap EVs hitting the market. Its a good thing. 👍
              For those who didnt see it coming when they went into the lease I guess the depreciation is the tuition fee……

          • +1

            @serpserpserp: Novated Lease gives an option to buy the car outright but if not then you just carry on leasing & paying the car weekly. Nothing is free in this world.

        • Some attos were popping up for $30k. Won’t be surprised if they are mid 20’s ish now.

        • +1

          Depends if people have the spare cash to make the balloon payments. If they can't, easiest path is to trade in the car and hope it covers most of it, then take out a cheaper lease. In this case the car will be dumped at the low end for a quick sale.You can usually just re-lease the same car without paying the balloon (ie financing balloon value on a new lease and keeping the car longer).

          Some will just churn into another new car either way, but I expect a lot of people will be sad when the car isn't even worth what the balloon payment is, and they've been sold the usual "it'll probably be worth more than the balloon payment and you can pocket the difference tax free" story.

          I have a lease on a BYD SL6, with a 28k balloon in 3yrs, thats already set aside. Might still dump it in 3yrs might not. Planned on going full EV but knew the current stuff at the higher end will plummet in value as much better stuff comes out.

        • +4

          Speaking of novated leases, I paid maybe $1000 for guaranteed buy back insurance on my 3 year lease… just in case my Atto wasn’t worth the residual when the lease expires, so no out of pocket if I want to lease another Car.

          • @Binggggo: Well done!

          • @Binggggo: That's really good and didn't even know it was an option. Which NL company did you do this through?

    • How much longer?

    • +11

      The best strategy is to wait but if you need a new car now a is decent time to buy. If your decision is a new car, Bev is the best sensible economical choice if the range is enough for you and you have home charger. Otherwise public charging is still cheaper than petrol bowser.

      • +1

        Is bev like more reliable than ice now?

        • +3

          We will find out in next 5 - 10 years.

        • +9

          By definition, yes, as there are significantly less moving parts.

          Also, real world battery degradation in cars is exceeding lab test results as cars are used somewhat more randomly in real life and batteries seem to like variety - the spice of life!

          • @WhyAmICommenting: Where can you see these results

            • +3

              @Francis82: Tesla's have been in the market for over 10 years now. Lots of ownership examples on reddit and tesla forums highlighting how reliable they have been. Yes there are lemons out there, no different than any other brand.

              • +2

                @11112007: Tesla was very niche 10 years ago. We don't even know how many had their batteries replaced under warranty. Tesla has been very secretive on this and hasn't provided any data.

                With increase in EV sales we have seen in last 3 - 4 years, we will get the actual data on battery in longevity in next 5 - 10 years.

            • @Francis82: Less physical car parts, especially moving parts within major assemblies like an engine, transmission, etc means less things can go wrong. Ask any engineer who has designed literally anything. Less parts and lower complexity equals higher reliability.

              There is very little that can go wrong wiring a motor to a battery.

              The are of course other things that can go wrong with new EVs that will be related to the build quality of the rest of the car. And the new companies will have to prove suspension, seating, windows doors etc are as reliable as their ICE counterparts.

            • @Francis82: Yea would be interested in the battery holding up results for Australia especially any sunny hot WA

    • +11

      Don't wait until you're dying to start living.

      • +1

        You mean like stop living so frugally and spend while you can rather than waiting for retirement

    • Planning to wait till the year 3000 before buying a BYD EV…

    • Everything does (besides GPUs and houses).

  • +24

    Great value cars. Bought a Sealion 6 and can vouch for quality and value for money.

    • Which trim did you opt for?

      • +5

        Dynamic. Didn't see any extra value in going AWD as I lost some range. The tyres on it are crap and am hoping to replace with a better brand when they are due. My driving is more family based so very sedate. Don't expect to do any kind of spirited driving. The handling dynamics are quite bad but amazingly smooth when driving sedately.

        • +2

          In what way do you think the tyres are crap? (genuinely curious) Does the FWD dynamic overpower them? I've got a premium and found them fine. I have to be trying pretty hard to chirp the tyres. Not had any significant rain yet though.

          Yeah Giti is a fairly unknown brand (its singaporean but manufactures in a few places including china). They aren't Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres but they've done me just fine so far. And I drive it like a hooligan.

          • +2

            @MetalPhreak: May the FWD then. Had rain this last weekend and didn't need to do much to spin the tyres. EV mode does bring lots of instant torque. Maybe, that's what got it spinning. Again, was not trying to floor it either, just going uphill from stand start in rain.

            • @rdhupar: Fair enough. Similar power per wheel but dynamic is trying to pull the same (almost) weight through two tyres. I’d prefer something else came standard but not bothered until they need replacing.

    • -7

      Oh yeah… what about long term?

      • +16

        Huh. In the long term petrol cars are going out… I'd rather be with a car maker like BYD that were electric car makers first.

        • +5

          Their first cars were ICE, then went on to hybrids and now a mixture of hybrid and EV. No idea why you think they were EV builder first?

          • +2

            @Buddy195: You are correct actually. I'm not sure where I got that information. I seem to remember maybe being told it by a BYD dealer (I do not own a BYD).

        • -1

          Good luck once solid state batteries become widespread.

          • +2

            @Geoff-bargain: If they do and they still have large tech hurdles to overcone before commercialisation, they will be in premium cars that most will not be able to afford and it will be decades before they trickle down into cheaper cars. They still have to obey the laws of pbysics in terms of charging speeds. They'll charge at the same speed in your garage as an EV does today.

            That aside, Toyota's FUD is strong … trying to delay the inevitable. Their debt pile is the largest of any motor company and they are struggling to remain relevant globally. Their new ecars are using BYD batteries and motors.

        • BYD invented the Blade Battery Technology if that is what you are trying to convey.

      • +1

        BYD has a fairly long history of making cars. They didn't start making cars a couple of years ago. Don't go comparing to the old companies but by that yardstick, there should be no new manufacturers ever

        • Byd did launch cars here a few years ago, although as a trial with NSW cabs I think. Then nothing for a couple years then here in a big way

  • +20

    Looking forward to $20k Chinese electric cars by 2030

    • +13

      I think we will get there much sooner than 5 years :)

      • +63

        Goodbye Musk

        • +21

          Looks like I offended the fanboys

          • +3

            @shxhshzhz: They're pathetic and easily triggered.

        • +1

          We can only dream

        • Please…

        • +13

          If you're a fan of cheap EVs, you owe Musk some gratitude

          • -2

            @Nubbin: Nah, he would’ve still priced them up high while “promising” to deliver a cheaper car, but Chinese subsidies have beat him to the punch on delivering affordable EVs and now Tesla’s discounting all their cars just to barely keep up with the fleet overseas.
            The only reason it will survive is because of the fascist Trump administration, which is ironically more so than China.

            • +6

              @FujinShu: You are unhinged. It's inarguable that Musk/Tesla is largely responsible for the current state of the market. Musk played a crucial role in accelerating consumer adoption of EVs -> which drove demand -> which drove competition -> which drove price reduction and further advances. The whole industry has snowballed in the wake of Telsla. Tesla is positioned to crack FSD ahead of anyone else too.

              • +5

                @Nubbin: what a load of crap! BYD started mass producing electric car in China in 2011, before Tesla release their model S. You can make the argument that Tesla popularise it in western countries due to Tesla being a western company. But if Tesla doesn't exist, the chinese would have adopted electric car regardless.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_e6

                ohh and FSD? google Waymo and see! Waymo did 4 million self driving uber style trips last year, how many have tesla done? 0!

                • +3

                  @zoombie: I don't really want to back a horse in this argument, but Waymo's capability is far more limited than what Tesla is trying to do.

                  Waymo's system is designed for a very specific and relatively narrow purpose - they only operate in a few limited, semi-controlled, pre-mapped environments. It is more equivalent to a low-speed version of Ford's BlueCruise or GM SuperCruise, which are only available on pre-mapped highways of the US. I don't mean to bad-mouth any these systems; they're good at what they're intended to achieve, for the most part - but outside their pre-approved environments, they simply don't work.

                  Tesla's aims are far more ambitious - their system allows the car to free-roam throughout the entire road network of the US, and with a few additional tweaks, most of the rest of the world.

                  • +1

                    @klaw81: You totally misunderstood waymo and Tesla. Waymo is operating in limited area because of regulatory approval. You can’t just put a full self driving taxi anywhere you like. They requires government approval.

                    Tesla does not have this license. Tesla system requires the driver to be behind the wheel at all times regardless FSD or not. So to say that waymo is limited or Tesla is ambitious is a total misunderstanding. Elon have been bragging about FSD for how many years now? Despite this, they have 0 car that have the full FSD license like waymo does. This should tell you something.

                    • +1

                      @zoombie:

                      So to say that waymo is limited or Tesla is ambitious is a total misunderstanding

                      I misunderstand nothing.

                      My point was that you made a deeply unfair comparison. They're not directly comparable, as they have extremely different operating conditions and purposes.

                      This should tell you something.

                      It tells me that Waymo has a business model for the service they are offering, and they have concentrated their efforts on the limited scope they need to achieve their aims. Their system mostly works as intended, and that's great.

                      However, it's a relatively simple task compared to what Tesla is aiming for, and the regulatory hurdles to receive a nation-wide FSD license approval are considerably higher than those Waymo has received.

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