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AOOSTAR WTR PRO 4 Bay NAS (Ryzen 7 5825U, 3x NVMe, 2x 2.5G LAN, HDMI/DP/USB-C) US$376.29 (~A$599.57) Del @ Aoostar AliExpress

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On sale is this NAS and Mini PC from Aoostar that's packed with features and offers a lot more performance than the usual NAS offerings. This is due to the AMD Ryzen 7 5825U 8 core, 16 thread CPU and AMD Radeon graphics that makes it suitable for use as a powerful NAS, mini PC or media streaming box. Especially since it has a HDMI 2.1 port, DisplayPort and a full feature USB-C port with 4K output and PD100W input.

Featuring 4 2.5/3.5" SATA bays (not hot-swappable), 2x M.2 NVMe Gen3 x4 slots and an M.2 WiFi slot that can be turned into an additional SSD slot (good for the OS drive) using an adapter. For RAM there's two DDR4-3200 SODIMM RAM slots with support for up to 64GB. It has 2.5G dual LAN for connectivity.

In terms of I/O they've opted to add the ports to the side with 2x 2.5G LAN, 2x USB 3.2, 2x USB 2.0, DP, HDMI, USB-C, MicroSD card slot, 3.5mm audio jack and the DC port. On the rear there is a large 120mm fan to keep the system cool.

While barebones it still comes with Windows 11 Pro and you can install any other OS like TrueNAS, XPEnology and more.

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Alternatively they sell an Intel N100 version for ~A$150 less which only includes a single M.2 NVMe slot and a single RAM slot.


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  • +24

    For converting the WiFi Slot to an M.2 NVMe x1 slot you can find the adapters cheap on AliExpress like this for example. You're only going to be able to fit a 2230 or 2242 sized SSD and you can snap off the other ends on the adapter to fit either. Stick your OS on that SSD so that you can use RAID with the other two NVMe x4 slots :)

    I recommend getting either a Samsung PM991a for <1TB or WD SN740 for 2TB.

    While the fan is quiet you can turn it off or change it's settings in the very unrestricted BIOS under "/advanced/hardware monitor/system fan". Since it uses a 4pin connector you can swap it out for another.

    • Fan off (0x70) = 30
    • Fan start (0x71) = 35
    • Full speed (0x72) = 80
    • +1

      I got the n100 version from AliExpress, I like it so far it came with an adapter in the box which was a surprise. Not sure if the space is different inside the Ryzen but I was able to use a full sized drive but was forced to magyver some foam from the packaging to hold it in place instead of using the screw.

  • +6

    There's also a version of this available with the Intel N100 chipset which would probably be a better choice if you're planning on running Plex with GPU passthrough. I have the 2-bay Intel version running ProxMox booting from a high-endurance SD card, with the GPU passed through to Xpenology, it's pretty much perfect for my needs.

    • +1

      Yep the Intel N100 is linked in the deal. It's about ~A$150 less after discounts.

    • +1

      I have the N100 version running Proxmox and it works a treat. One VM for TrueNAS, one for Home Assistant OS, and one for an Ubuntu Desktop when I need to run the TP-Link Omada software controller. Highly recommend.

      • Is promox a NAS o/s like truenas, dsm, etc?

        • No its a hypervisor like VMware. You can run truenas or DSM within it as a guest virtual machine.

        • It's a hypervisor where you run VMs and LXC containers.

      • +2

        I happened across this video the other day: Don't Overlook This Slot - Hardware Haven. You can put an e-key m.2 Google Coral TPU in the wifi slot. Good for running Frigate NVR. I wish I learnt this before I rebuilt my Home Assistant / Frigate server.

        • Thanks, that's great to know! Fortunately I have a fully-offline Reolink NVR that only gets access to Home Assistant and not the internet and that seems to do detections just fine, but if I ever redo it and use Frigate I'll make sure to do this!

      • +1

        FYI - Omada Controller is now a native app in TrueNAS Scale. Might save you needing the Ubuntu VM?

        • Thanks heaps, I'll give it a crack! Must be really fresh because I can see it on the apps page but not many people talking about it online.

        • IDK I'm having all these issues with Docker "apps" in truenas 24.10.1, gonna just move back to debian or ubuntu server

  • +1

    Would this support ECC RAM?

    • +3

      TechpowerUp database suggests it does support ECC. But whether or not its supported by the bios is another story….I'd be keen to know for sure though.

  • The n100 will be able powerful enough to run dockers, right?

    • +5

      Yep. Even with an Intel N95 you can run Promox with a few VMs.

      • +1

        agreed.. I'm running Intel N5095 (slower than Intel N95) and it is happily running 9 dockers 24/7 (the 'arrs suite', jellyfin and scrutiny (hdd monitor)). I've only got 1080p source media on my NAS but it has handled transcoding to multiple apple mobiles with ease (transcoding video and audio).

    • +1

      Easily. I'm running about 20 docker containers, cloud sync software, Plex etc. plus a native home assistant VM and my CPU utilisation is about 5% peak.

      • Could truenas run docker in parallel?
        Sorry I am new to nas
        Could this machine be a nas and vm server at the same time?

  • +2

    Love an AOOSTAR

  • +2

    Any idea what ball-park range of idle power consumption this should have when all the rust drives are spun down in sleep mode?

    • <10W

      • Thank you. That sounds amazing - now really tempted…. resist….

  • All the best claiming warranty on these, my symbology NAS died and it’s taking ages to get the warranty claim sorted

    • +7

      You buy these without the expectation of warranty realistically - either it's DOA, which AliExpress is usually pretty good with, or it works, and if it dies later on for whatever reason, you just have to open it up and fix it or salvage what you can.

  • How's the power draw for the n100 vs ryzen?

    • Interested in this too.. can the Ryzen just slow down such that it doesn't use much (an extra stick of ram might use a little more though?)

    • +1

      My N100 of this system with all drives install both hdd and ssd consumed about 30-35 watts, which is alright considering 5w*4=20 and 10w to 15w for system draw with 2 ssds.

    • Ryzen is slightly higher, but generally… If you're running HDDs without putting them to sleep then the difference is negligible enough to ignore.
      Different story if you want to opt for SSDs and are willing to pay the price premium to see a payoff in energy bills… However many years later
      And the payoff can be disregarded if you own solar

  • +5

    Time to finally replace the n40l and Gen 8 … thanks Clear.

    • +2

      Lol i was about to say… hp micro server replacement??

    • +2

      n40l

      I miss the days when the N40L was an OzBargain staple

      • I built an Intel n5095 8 bay NAS recently, but I'm still running my 2x n36l microservers when I need to (non video related backups).

        • What was your setup for the 8bay?
          Do you have the parts you used?

    • Mines still going! Used as a backup server for my main nas, running truenas

    • Was thinking the exact same thing! Currently running a xeon powered gen8 and an intel 9600k plex box, can easily consolidating both into one of these box

  • +8

    I bought this a few weeks back, and ended up returning it as it stopped booting after installing a second nvme.
    Thankfully my drives still booted after I put it back in its original clunky case.

    Was super easy to return via AliExpress.

    While it worked, it was very quiet, and drew around 10W with 3 drives and 1 nvme when idle

    • +1

      Eh thanks for the power draw info. Just saw after asking above!

  • Great machine, with fnOS is even better.

  • Does this have built-in hardware RAID support?

  • +1

    Saw review a few days ago, its pretty cool, i'd go for the n100 tho. For quicksync for plex. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct4yewC7mKA

    • +1

      why not quicksync with jellyfin? no plex licence to pay then.

      • in my instance, i have a lifetime plex pass, but yes, i guess trans-coding in general.

        Even though its free, some of my colleagues have tried Jellyfin but then because of issues and ease of use, have gone to plex.

        They've had a better experience, both in setup/config and usability.

  • Do these have a proprietary motherboard shape that means they can't be upgraded in a few years? I picked up an old model Synology NAS off the footpath, then realised that I can't put another motherboard in, which is a shame as the drive chassis and fans etc are set up very well.

    • +1

      Yes they do. If you don't want proprietary you're going to need a custom built PC.

      • Cheers, Clear!

    • that's what dremels are for. a mini-itx motherboard should probably fit easily enough and you can get them with on board n100 cpus for less than $200.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HLF-46Das4

  • +2

    To have fun I prefer build one myself. But the price tag is near around. So not a bad deal!

  • -2

    Any idea who the OEM is?

  • Would this run Plex and be able to transcode 4k to 1080p on more than one stream at the same time?

    • +3

      AMD CPUs are not supported by plex.

      The N100 version would do a few 4k to 1080 streams.

  • +4

    Recently did a bunch of research on a homelab upgrade and my conclusion was the 5825u CPUs are a gem for homelab use. They absolutely SIP power (15W TDP), they're very cheap, they're very performant for their price, lots of cores/threads, DDR4 SODIMMs are relatively cheap. For VMs/containers they were what I settled on for my upgrade.

    There's an argument for the N100 for quicksync but for everything else the 5825u is 3-4x faster in multi threaded workloads and 50% faster on single threaded. I don't have the numbers but surely having 16 threads vs the N100s 4 while also being much faster per thread, even if you do software transcode I would imagine the 5825u is still doing much better. There's some discussions on this over in this reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeServer/comments/1go1khp/n100_or…

    • +2

      Whilst your not wrong, ive found just cause the 5825 is faster, there is not any real need for it to be faster if all your doing is transcoding. My n100 barely hits 30% CPU transcoding 4 x HD streams. Guess it really comes down to the use case.

      • Wow this n100 sounds amazing i wonder why synology doesnt use it

        • I'm running auxxxilium configured as a Synology FS6400, on my Intel N5095 NAS and it supports hardware igpu transcoding, SHR etc.etc.

          As for AMD software vs hardware transcoding - this forum post on jellyfin has some opinions as to quality being inferior with the AMD and recommending direct play if used externally to the LAN, instead of transcoding - https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-hw-transcoding-performance-amd-…

      • +4

        Sure, that's why I said "There's an argument for the N100 for quicksync but for everything else the 5825u is 3-4x faster in multi threaded workloads and 50% faster on single threaded."

        If you really just want to transcode and absolutely nothing else AND you want to save some money the N100 is the go. For anything else the 5825u is absolutely destroys the N100 many times over. Even in transcoding the 5825u is actually better, but it has a higher price.

    • You didn't mention the most important part. 5825u has ecc support. I wouldn't touch a nas without ecc.

      • ok. thanks for the chuckle.

    • absolutely SIP power (15W TDP)

      You'd be surprised, but most modern desktop CPUs are actually very efficient and can also be undervolted to have very low wattage.

      What makes them look bad is incessant need to "boost" CPUs for higher benchmarks, just for them to run hot, loud, and inefficient. You end up at a very poor place on the power / performance curve, so you can usually easily retain like 90% of the performance for 50% power draw.

  • I found a good review:

    https://youtu.be/Ct4yewC7mKA

  • Intel one cheaper and better for plex.

  • +2

    For $600, you can get a B450 ITX, 3600, 2xDDR4, ATX PSU and a SFF case for 4 bays and still have change left

    • What about the time involved?

    • -3

      If you're talking about an Ali quality B450 ITX board running a headless 3600 due to the lack of iGPU, yeh nah

      The best setup is still a Flashstor 6 with upgraded RAM running TrueNAS + a separate cheap N100 mini PC for VM's and services

      As for these cheaper AIO NAS units, will be interesting to see their long term heat, vibration and reliability results from running 4x OzB standard issue 3.5" enterprise refurb drives 24/7

    • +1

      Those CPUs are nowhere near as efficient as the Ryzen 5800U or Intel N100

  • +4

    My years old NAS dream is waking up again …

  • +2

    Can i program a NAS to take backup of all photos from different devices at home including phones, laptops, tabs etc?

    • +2

      Can with phone and tablet. With my synology, when my mobile connected to my wifi (ie im coming home) it will upload all my NEW photos, automatically. It knew to upload new ones only not duplicating

      • So is it software specific of Synology or the one in deal can be tinkered for the same?

        • +1

          Both. Synolgy o/s and software. But probably other nas also can.

          • @CyberMurning: Could true nas do this?

            • @hishaken: I run Immich as an app under TrueNAS Scale, and connect to it remotely from my phone via Tailscale to do backups (and remote collection access). Trying to kick the Google Cloud habit.

              Not hard to set up and an impressive ( and growing ) feature set. Can do ML face recognition and keyword indexing. if your storage server doesn't have the grunt, those ops can be offloaded to another machine (my desktop PC with a proper GPU, not even on the same LAN, but on the same tailscale network)
              .

    • +2

      I do this to a SMB share using SMBsync 2 on Android.

    • +2

      You could try XPEnology—it’s an open-source version of Synology and supports most of the features Synology offers.

      I’m personally a fan of OpenMediaVault. It supports Docker and VMs now, and the lib repo is pretty solid, so you’ll probably find something to handle photo syncing without much hassle.

      If you’re up for getting more hands-on, you could check out TrueNAS or Unraid for greater control and flexibility. Both have large communities and extensive library support. Unraid does come with a fee though.

      • With openmedia can we get all those arrs running via dockers?

        • dockers or plugins

      • it’s an open-source version of Synology

        No it's not, it's just stealing Synology's software and running it with a custom bootloader.

        • It's called fork.

          • +1

            @Swing: It's not a fork. Much of the Synology interface is closed source, so there isn't anything even public to create a fork from. Xpenology is really just taking a factory system image from Synology, and using a custom bootloader to make it appear as though it is running on Synology hardware. You don't have a licence to run that software.

            • @renza: auxxxilium is the current version for running DSM 7.2.x on any hardware. Adds back video station and other apps which Synology removed due to them not wanting to pay HEVC licence fees. I ran/run XPenology / DSM 5/6 on my HP n36l microservers, DSM 7.x is nicer in that it has more up to date security patches. https://github.com/AuxXxilium

              • @gizmomelb: Thanks for posting this.

                I have the exact same micro server lying about and I always wanted to try DSM to see what it's all about.

    • +3

      Yes relatively easy with syncthing

      • syncthing rocks

    • +5

      You should have a look at Immich - you can think of it as a self-hosted Google Photos app. Really good features and good Android / iOS apps.

    • +5

      I can vouch for Immich as a great photo backup solution. Easy to set up with Docker and there’s lots of guides out there for it.

    • I've installed immich on my treunas, the mobile application is also very good, although the app is still in initial stage but works very well and fast.

      • Are you running the Android or iOS Immich app? Any annoyances or bugs?

        • +1

          I've been using IOS app for a while now and just Android one today and can't complain, apart from frequent updates at both server and client level.

  • Any hard drive recommendations?

    • +1

      I got a NAS recently and got the hard drives from east digital. They've been working well so far.

  • +1

    Anyone planning to run this with 4x of the 3.5" refurb enterprise EXOS drives that are the OzB standard read this thread

    This NAS doesn't stagger the startup on drives so when fully loaded, the standard 120W power brick will choke on power up

    There's also been reports the brick is the typical buzzing low quality spec so budget for a proper 200W Lenovo brick if you are going to max out the unit

    • any links to 200W Power Supplies? Guessing its a barrel connector?

  • Would this be better than the Synology ones? esp the Intel N100 ones seems like a good deal if it still has 4 hard drive bays

    • there is no operating system with this case - you need to install your own.

      • from what I've read there should be win11 and TrueNAS is easy enough to install

    • This is great value if you are comfortable setting up a NAS and using as a homelab.

      Synology/QNAP is better if you want something that is set & forget with vendor support, and proven reliability end-to-end.

      • -1

        well some people are saying it might have issues down the line, which I prefer to avoid with storage solutions and also the included 120W isnt enough with 4 slots full…if it was $300 mark might've 'risked' it but yeah not too sure anymore

        not too sure how widespread these are but anyway I'm not that desperate yet.

  • I've been looking for the home assistant device. I was thinking a much cheaper option, the wyze 5070 (I already have a nas) but perhaps this would be suitable as a secondary nas option. Is this overkill? Cheers

  • -2

    I am getting into nas
    Would like to ask
    1 what is the best os?
    2 could we have nas and home entertainment system in parallel?
    3 how is the file sharing? Any app I could use?
    4 how is the cyber security?
    5 how is the redundancy?
    6 could I have vm and nas in parallel? How
    7 how to justify the upfront cost and electricity bill of nas vs Google drive?

    Your answer is really appreciated

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