Do You Open/Consume Items from a Store before Paying?

So Bilalwentwild's family seems like they open icecreams and eat from supermarkets before they pay for the items.

Just want to check if this is normal/ok?

What stops someone doing this then if security guard sees they'll pay, and if no one sees, they put the opened icecream box back onto the shelves? Risk free theft?

I was always taught to pay for something before I open/eat/use etc. I know some stores specifically mention not to open until payment and a lot of places have a process in place for people that is in a hurry to pay and open then go back into the store as the security guard will have a sticker to indicate the item has already been paid for.

FYI, no other countries do this.

Do you pay before you open?

Poll Options

  • 752
    Pay before use
  • 15
    Use and dont pay
  • 112
    Use before pay

Comments

      • Unfortunately, common sense is lost on most people here. They only compute 1s and 0s

    • +11

      Isn't this why the supermarkets have free fruit for kids though?

      • +7

        Yes, but were they adequately washed? Does it suit all children, every time? Toddlers can't eat most fruit on their own, but can suck on a baby food pouch.

      • +4

        Not all supermarkets do

        For fun, next time you see a little kid eating fruit in a supermarket I want you to ask yourself "how do I know that they took that from the 'free fruit basket?'".

        • +2

          With the fruit it's all the same stuff. There's no advantage to taking the "not free" ones.

          But yes, when you see a parent giving their child a yoghurt, you certainly don't know if they will be honest and pay for it. Some will but some don't.

      • +4

        Found the non parent

      • Fruit only makes kids scream louder. Can't say I blame them.

      • +29

        Yep, just leave him at home alone for a couple of hours, I'm sure he'll survive.

      • -4

        To inflict screaming tantrum misery on the max numbers at once?
        Have a wing-man to blame things on?

      • You didn't think about this before you posted, did you?

    • i have a couple of times, put the chocolate i was going to buy in my bag walked out, half way home, then realised i didn't pay. I went back and told the shop i didn't pay for the item. they looked at me as if i was crazy.

      • +1

        This was more cut-and-dry when you went through a checkout lane, but now days I feel if Woolworths is unhappy with my performance at the self-checkout, then they should hire better checkout clerks. Otherwise they're stuck with however good or bad I am at it and any mistakes I or their software makes along the way.

        I don't make many, but I'm not going to fall apart if something goes under the wrong category or is skipped. Again, if you want better scanning, ditch the self checkouts and bring back the clerks.

    • -1

      This is the only acceptable reason, and I'm sure the staff are totally supportive. Screaming kids in the checkout line make me want to cut myself, except I can't anymore because Coles removed all their knives. ;-)

      • Unless you’ve been stacking those flybuys knife credits, those can be redeemed for a knife prize.

    • +1

      Same here

    • +2

      Yeah I used to do this too, I think the younger they are, the more it’s needed, there came a time when I had to decide to put my foot down and told my son he needed to wait for us to pay for it first.

    • +1

      You're speaking like someone with a child, as opposed to a 20 odd year old with a righteous view on the world.

    • -1

      I wonder how parents used to do the grocery shopping before they invented those single serve yoghurt thingies…

  • +9

    I would never open something unless I'd purchased it. But I've also worked at a supermarket before and quite a lot of people will eat something in-store (usually a drink, small bar of chocolate, or a small snack for kids) and just give me the wrapper. As far as I know, the store doesn't care as long as they get their money. What's worse is when people grab something from the cooked chicken area (like fried chicken) and leave it half-eaten in the aisles.

  • +25

    I like to try on the condoms for a perfect fit before I buy them

    • +3

      Having trouble finding an XXS that delivers on the promise?

      • +1

        Got to be sure before purchasing a lifetime supply.

        • +3

          I just got a pair of kids size latex gloves and cut the five fingers off. Works a treat.
          Not sure what to do with the second glove though

    • are you used to getting the regular ones that fall right off?

    • Like Daniel Radcliffe on Extras where he is carrying around an unrolled condom https://www.tiktok.com/@randyarizona/video/72649552286618288…

  • +13

    WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

  • +2

    *a lot

    I don’t care so much about this if their intent is to pay for it, than I do about the shit (fropanity) kids who go straight to the self serve bag-&-weigh display and just grab a hand full of lollies to walk around and munch on because mum said “yeah, it’s ok, just grab some…”

    • +1

      Also: noone and countires

  • +13

    Lots of people in this forum love policing and judging others without spending much time thinking about other people's motivations.

    • FTFY
      Lots of people in this forum love policing and judging others without spending much time thinking about other people's motivations coming here for tribal judgement, village permission to be an arse and for universal validation.

      • ^ +10

    • -1

      OzBargain has been infected with Karenism. The landfill police is the worst offender.

  • +9

    I don't believe in the death penalty. Well, except for 2 reasons.

    For people that clap when the plane lands. And, for people that consume items in the store before paying.

    It's just weird.

  • +6

    I start drink my slurpee before i pay

    • +2

      Oh yeah, do you top back up after doing a lap around the store then pay?

  • +5

    So Bilal's family seems like they open icecreams and eat from supermarkets before they pay for the items.

    No they paid at Coles.

    • This comment suggests they do what OP is asking about.

      • Whilst the assumption from the wife was doing the honest thing I don't think that gives any user on this forum the right to personally and publicly attack someone without giving the correct story in the first place.

        This post didn't need to mention names. It could have been a generic question that would have still got the same outcome without making another user feel like crap about their already crap situation which was that they paid twice and woolies wouldn't fix it.

  • +3

    Do You Open/Consume Items from a Store before Paying?

    I'm getting a bit tired of the condom posts lately…

    • +2

      1000 in 12 hours is a bit too much.

    • You win this one

  • +5

    More poll options please
    Don't eat in supermarkets

    Eat before you shop,it's not a diner, DH

    • +1

      Shop at Costco for samples fine dining!

  • +2

    I feel safe knowing that OP is across international law regarding eating of items prior to purchase.

  • +1

    Reminds me of the Holly's restaurants in Kmart. Yes I'm that old.

  • +1

    This is the rules at Kings Cross. Taste before pay.

  • +1

    Not generally, I think maybe once or twice when I was really thirsty I've grabbed a drink and had a few sips before paying at checkout

  • +2

    yes pay b4 use, but not always.. some local fruit shops let you try the stuff before buying so why not

  • +3

    I sometimes do this with water bottles if I'm very thirsty. Food feels different due to mess and such but also, why not.

    In fact, I think eating in store might be a really good idea. The stores spend a lot of money planning out where to put groceries so we walk around longer than we need to and buy more crap we didn't need.
    If I'm feeling hungry and they're making sure I pass a bag of bacon cheese rolls on the way in, why not scarf it down before I reach the chips aisle.

    This would save a TON of money

    • There's this thing called Self Control. I hear it's very big among non-robotic adults these days.

      • Cool idea. Definitely not the core of the point I was making.
        Better tell the supermarkets and advertising industry that people cant be manipulated

        • The rationale behind self-control is that you can't be manipulated if you exercise it. Brilliant idea, actually.

  • +7

    I will admit that every single time I do the big grocery shop, I consume an iced coffee before I reach the checkout. As long as the consumed item was paid for before I left, I thought no theft has occurred.
    However, I just looked it up, https://www.qld.gov.au/law/crime-and-police/types-of-crime/s… and possibly I am a criminal after all, right up until the time that I do pay for it. From now on I might play it safe. Buy the iced coffee, then go back in to do my shopping.

    • +6

      eating or drinking something in a shop without paying

      So eating at a restaurant is shoplifting till you pay the bill? C'mon, that's not what that means.

      • Bullet points two and four are different, Bullet point four is for restaurants

        • +5

          Notice (2) says without paying, not before paying 😉

          • +3

            @wisdomtooth: Ok fantastic, I won’t lay awake at night wondering if the police are after me

            • -3

              @loulou1: Tbs, I asked CGPT:

              In Queensland, consuming items in a supermarket before paying could potentially be considered shoplifting, depending on the circumstances. Under Queensland's criminal law, shoplifting involves dishonestly taking goods without intending to pay for them. If you consume an item before paying and there is no intent to pay, it would be considered shoplifting.

              However, if you consume the item and subsequently pay for it at checkout, it is generally not considered theft. That said, some supermarkets may have policies against consuming unpaid goods on their premises. To avoid misunderstandings, it’s advisable to pay for items before consuming them or seek permission from store staff.

              Yes, rest easy 😊

              • -1

                @wisdomtooth: It's QLD.
                I'm guessing they 'cherry pick' who they charge.

              • @wisdomtooth: We’re doomed when this is level of DYOR these days.

                Unauthorised dealing with shop goods
                (1)Any person who, with respect to goods in a shop of a value of $150 or less—
                (a)consumes them without the consent, express or implied, of the person in lawful possession of them;

                https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/view/whole/html/inforce/2…

                • @OzzyBrak:

                  You're absolutely right—thank you for pointing that out. According to Queensland's Regulatory Offences Act 1985, consuming goods in a shop without the express or implied consent of the owner is considered "unauthorised dealing with shop goods," even if the intent is to pay later.

                  This makes it clear that consent is a critical factor. If you consume goods without the shop's permission, it could be an offence under this law, regardless of whether you intend to pay for them afterward.

                  I appreciate the clarification, and I will ensure greater precision when addressing legal queries in the future. Let me know if you'd like me to refine any earlier statements further.

                  • @wisdomtooth: Do yourself a favour and stop using genai. It’s all garbage.

    • You pay for yours eventually, I've seen plenty of others leave empty tins & bottles on Colesworth shelves.

    • +2

      Don't worry. I worked at Woolies in a store for many years, no-one at the store is going to care as long as you pay for it on your way out.

      Maybe if you look like you're high on meth, then a security guard might approach you. But as a normal person doing some shopping and drinking your iced coffee, really no-one gives af.

      This was in NSW, but even with real shoplifters we were always told we needed to wait until they left the store. Technically no crime had been committed by shoving razor blades down their pants.

      • 😵

      • WTF?
        After the shoplifters left you dished out tribal justice by way of thrusting razor blades down the front of their dacks?
        Christ on a bike.That is a deterrent.

        • They thought twice about coming about after the razor blade treatment.

          Just in case anyone was actually confused, it was the shoplifters that shoved things down their pants.

    • I do love drinking iced coffee while I shop. The self service checkout doesn't like the light weight so I need assistance.

      Next time I'm going to buy the coffee then turn around and shop.

      • +1

        I'm pretty sure the supermarket is more than happy for you to drink your coffee while you shop, so you… last longer, and buy more.

    • Does this work for Liquorland too? Can you crack open a hard solo whilst browsing the shelves?

      • I would be hard pressed to do that, in QLD out alcohol stores are not attached to our supermarkets

  • no other countries do this.

    False.

    • Educate us. Which countries do?

      • +2

        I asked AI in which countries is the name Bilal popular.

        The results are….

        Pakistan
        Lebanon
        Algeria
        Morocco
        Saudi Arabia
        Egypt
        Turkey
        United Arab Emirates
        Afghanistan

        So I'm guessing it is acceptable practice in these countries*

        *Probably not

        • +1

          I believe in a lot of those countries shoplifters will be separated from their hands.

      • Italy, India, Brazil, parts of the US, especially Massachusetts, Virginia, California… jurisdictions in which theft requires intent.

        • Go Australia, you civilised beauty
          The USA situation is so the lawyers don't go hungry, same in India, except it's all around class structures.
          In Italy the Mafia makes the rules, in Brazil sort of similar.
          If I was a gambling man I'd say we will be (almost there) the equivalent of the worst of them as far as social norms, in no time. We might be the lucky country, but no-one wants to lift a finger or speak up to keep it that way.
          Politically we are being dragged towards USA at the speed of light.

          • @Protractor: "being dragged"?? Australia has been US territory since WW2!! It's part of Roosevelt's loot of the British Empire!

  • +4

    Generally, always pay first. However, with my 3-year-old, I would always open a pack of yogurt pouch for her to consume and pay at checkout.

    • -5

      You know shops actually have fruit bins for kids to eat healthy while parents shop?

      • +2

        You know shops actually have fruit bins for kids to eat healthy while parents shop

        Aldi needs to get it together then!

        If a shop does offer free fruit I only let my kids have banana's… Who knows who has touched a Pear or Apple before your kid bites into it.

        • Not to mention the pesticides!

        • +1

          Aldi apple has been man handled by grubby customer fingers well before Little Johnny gets a chance to wrap his laughing gear around it.

          • +1

            @Protractor: That's why one should always wash produce before putting it in the fridge.

            • @wisdomtooth: Aint any nasties on Aussie fruit maaaaaaate!
              We are 100% clean and friggin' green.Safe as shouses. She'll be right.
              /s

        • ah - that explains why Coles World Square I seem to recall only seeing bananas in the free-for-kids bin - and I saw a kid the other day take one

          I felt like one, but my Sunday School training wouldn't let me … :-(

        • Exactly! People who eat skinned fruit such as apples, pears, grapes etc, right off the stand are eating the muck that every other shopper has put on it while they were feeling for the freshest ones. People with herpetic whitlow shop for fruit too, folks……

          Also, the wax coating that's put over the insecticide when the fruit is growing in the field is also still there.

          How people can eat that without even thinking about it is beyond me!

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