Scanned Icecream at Woolworths That Was Purchased at Coles

Hi OzBargainers, earlier this month, my wife was doing our monthly grocery shopping at Woolworths, while I watched our 3-year-old daughter at the mall. It was a warm day, and my daughter asked for ice cream. So, I went to Coles in the same mall and bought a 4-pack of Peter's drumsticks, enjoying 2 cones myself.

I then received a call from my wife asking me to come to Woolworths to help with the scanning. When I arrived, I realized she had forgotten to pick up my Up&Go drink. I left the half-eaten box of drumsticks in the trolley and grabbed my flavoured milk from the store.

Later that day, after we got home, I found out that my wife had scanned the ice cream box at Woolworths as well. The price at Coles was $4.50, while Woolworths charged $9.50. I decided I would return to the store on my next trip to rectify this.

Today, I spoke with the in-store manager and explained our mistake. She informed me that they couldn’t issue a refund because Coles and Woolworths sell many similar products, and she could have assisted me if I had contacted them on the same day. I was curious, though—since Woolworths is a large retailer, shouldn’t their inventory be recorded via the barcodes of product batches? Wouldn't this allow them to distinguish their products from those sold by other retailers?

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      • Guess lesser weight doesn't trigger an alert, it only flags when more than expected weight is detected.

        I once had grapes scanned twice, the system allowed it without complaints. Went to a different but closer Woolworths to rectify, they refused to help, claiming discrepancies in their inventory. What BS! As if they were going to count the grapes.

        Anyway, went back to the original Woolworths a week later, they refunded the double scan with minimum fuss.

        Another time the self checkout machine hung after selecting a payment method, was partially paid using container vouchers, still $5 to pay by card. The assistant knew that he couldn't re-scan the vouchers, it will create a different problem if he was to re-scan the items at another checkout. So he said don't worry about it.

        The point is they can exercise discretion to correct certain errors, if few dollars they say they can't help, it is because they don't want to help.

        Perhaps reach out to their social media accounts via DM, explain the situation, show them receipts, credit card transactions, see if they can help.

  • Unlucky OP.

    As it's holiday season there are a lot of grumpy / bored kids (and immature adults) on the site shit posting.

    Short of a receipt from Coles showing the proof of purchase there, it's hard to say if Woolies would actually give you a refund of the money. They might have CCTV footage showing you entering the store with the item in the trolley, but this is likely deleted by default after a few days.

    Best bet would have been to go back immediately with a receipt but short of this no luck unless there's a nice enough manager

    • +1

      The manager said she could have done something if I had called the same day. Probably fetching footage of the same day would have been a lot easier for them. But woolies customer service has always been great for me so i was in no rush. My bad

  • +1

    Less Bilal going wild and couples counselling maybe to improve communication?

    Communicating that the drumsticks were from another supermarket to your wife, even if seemingly obvious, would have avoided this issue.

    • +2

      This! I know my shortcomings, and no matter how much my introverted mind tries to speak out loud, I am failing at this skill. I e-spoke to so many bargainers today but face to face with my spouse, I am always short of words!
      We are going off topic now

  • +11

    just go buy more at coles and return them to woolies

    • Sounds like a Plan!

    • Thanks for SPOILING it for the rest of us… 😠

    • +1

      But he only has 1 Woolworths receipt, so can only refund 1 from Coles.

      $9.50 out of packet + $4.50 to buy another - $9.50 refund = still $4.50 short.

      • get one off the shelf and then just return it at the checkout

  • +3

    As stated, barcodes do not have to be batch specific. They are only for that item. So an epson ink cartridge is the same at hn, dm, jb, gg, ow etc, if it is the same size, volume etc. Even new packaging, can have the same barcode. Barcodes starting with 93 usually have Australia as the country, where they are sold. The next 5? Usually indicate the supplier, and the next 5 is the product number. Last digit is a check digit. All codes are registered, so they don't double up. Items like meat, have batch barcodes, so they can monitor expiry dates, sizes, (i heard) but they allocate to a product item. Ie rump steak .

    When i first started at hn, back in the 90s, we had to create our own 8 digit barcodes, which were store specific (and not registered). We then would have companies, where when a new version was released had a new barcode, which made inventory management a nightmare.

  • The amount of time spent on fussing about $9.50.

  • -2

    Is the expiry different on the Woolworths ones compared to Coles ?

    Just a thought.

    • 95% chance it will be different, but barcode should still remain the same, unless it's a different size, or exclusive.

  • +2

    Cmon man, you have to write this one off and stop looking for anyone else to blame.

    While your reason is legit to you, as someone who has worked at one of these stores, I can tell you that people come back every day with dodgy shoplifting exchange/refund stories like this all the time. Like they shoplift the thing when it's on sale, then try to return it when it's not on sale, essentially doubling their money on an item they stole. You didn't do this - but it LOOKS exactly like that.

    • Like they shoplift the thing when it's on sale, then try to return it when it's not on sale, essentially doubling their money on an item they stole

      Feels like the first part is irrelevant. Whether they shoplift when the item is on sale or not, as long as they return the item when it's not on sale, they'll get the same amount (normal price) back.

  • I then received a call from my wife asking me to come to Woolworths to help with the scanning

    Should tell her to take her time and you'll scan the next shop. That is also equality. You find out what could go wrong when there is duplication.

  • -4

    OP (family member) paid for something.
    Didn’t actually take said item from store (because what was scanned was already theirs)

    Open and shut case, take that thing and don’t scan when next at Woolworths, it’s already yours you merely paid in advance.

    • Emm, 2wrongs will not make 1right. But appreciate your thought process. Their stock stake will be spot on, too!

  • +4

    I found out that my wife had scanned the ice cream box at Woolworths

    There's your answer. Sell the wife, get that $9.50 back ASAP

    • You are confusing the price of ice cream with Price of wife!😋

  • +1

    OP needs to wait until everything goes to the QR type codes that should have allot more info.

    Live and learn…..

  • The barcode you scan at the check out is a retail barcode assigned by Peter’s for that product. It’s the same product they sell to Cole’s and woolies and other retailers. Part of the barcode is assigned by GS1, a governing body that assigns numbers worldwide. It prevents duplicate barcodes.

    The inventory code does not change by the retailer ordering the product for many reasons unless it’s retailer specific.

    A lot/ batch number is assigned to the product typically at the time of manufacturer. It’s not a serialised item, not each item has a unique number. The batch number is typically associated to the manufacture date/ pallet. That’s usually a seperate barcode or it could be a concatenated barcode applied at the pallet level.

  • +1

    This must be the first ' I got self scammed at Colesworth' post, well done OP. 😁

  • shouldn’t their inventory be recorded via the barcodes of product batches?

    no

  • +2

    Store managers must see all kinds of scams. I'm sure if you had the box on you and the manager compared to the boxes in the freezer, the batch numbers would be exactly the same because they probably come from the exact same distribution line.

  • +3

    1.
    So from what i know if the weight of the product is not correct woolworths warn you.
    2.
    And your wife didnt notice you bought ice cream from coles when you join her ?
    3.
    And she didn't notice box was opened.
    4.
    And you waited few days to rectify the issue with woolworths ?

    You need professional help !

    • -8

      Nice detective work. Let me answer these:
      1. She might have used skip bagging or other stuff to counter weight issue, I was not with her at that time.
      2. She noticed ice cream box in my hand and cone in daughter's hand, and assumed we picked them from Woolies.
      3. Open box doesn't warranted it was paid off, hence she scanned
      4. After doing monthly groceries there was no need to return to that mall for any shopping. I waited till I needed to actually buy something again. Mall is not at walking distance. Getting in and out of carpark is time consuming too.

      • Lol 🤣

      • 2 & 3. Why would she assume the kid eating the icecream already as not paid? An opened box does warrent payment unless your family are theives?

        Normal person would pay for an item before opening. If it was urgent, you can grab an item and pay, then go back in the shop while consuming the item (the security guard usuaply puts a "paid for" sticker on the item.

  • +2

    We call that a diet Fanta moment, after a time when someone bought diet Fanta when they meant to buy regular. So any time something like this happens, we laugh, call it a diet Fanta movement, and move on with our lives. Seems to work.

  • +3

    Shop Aldi
    All those so called perks at Woolies cost you balls in a noose and money in the long run.You are spending more to fish for points etc.

  • We should make a competition to demand grocery stores work like banks. At the end of the day they should count all their stocks.

    I remember last time an ATM didn't dispense cash but deduct my account. I complained to my bank (the ATM belong to another bank) and it took 2 months to return the money for me. Hmm

  • You would have been better off using the lines of product dissatisfaction.
    e.g. maybe there was a weird taste to them, or they were all melted when you go home, but you were home in less than 10 minutes.

    They would likely refund this, and i don't believe this is fraud, because there is no financial loss to woolworths, e.g. they didn't lose any product.

  • Barcodes are registered with GS1 and for a company that may mean thousands of registered barcodes they have to sort out. If you then were to try and register based on retailer skus that would exponentially mean more work. For my previous company it would eat up most of a person's role for weeks dealing with barcodes for a small clothesline manufacturer for a company this size, what you are expectring would require soooo much work.

    As well as manufacturing lines be changed based on orders from retailers. Currently they can produce as many ice creams as they want and split them after based on orders. If they had different orders they would have to constantly stop the lines to swap our packaging based on estimates of what retailer is going to order what. That is a nightmare again.

  • how about taking responsibility for your actions.
    Do you disagree with this statement of facts

    a responsible adult went to shop A
    and made purchases from shop A
    the responsible adult either knows what they purchased from shop A and / or head a record of their purchases
    that same responsible adult went to a shop B with the items from shop A
    that same responsible adult made selections from shop B
    while that same responsible adult was making a purchase from shop B, a child who is not responsible but under the care of that same responsible adult scanned an item which was from shop A, and that same responsible adult did not immediately notice this behaviour?

    Should we declare that the responsible adult shouldn't be responsible for the actions of the child
    or Should we declare that the responsible adult shouldn't be declared a responsible adult and have her be taken care by another responsible adult

    Furthermore what lesson is this teaching your child, it seems not taking responsibility is a trait you wish to instil in both your wife and child.

    • -4

      Either you didn't read main post or didn't understand. But that's ok

      • -2

        I reread your post and I don't see the point being made by you, the mistake was made by you and you made a post here after getting rejected for a refund.
        Also are you twelve? How is it possible that you don't understand how barcodes work?

        • +1

          Think you should reread the original post a few more times.

  • +1

    Coles and Woolies most likely source from similar distributors. The amount of effort it would take for distributors to have company specific batches and inventory would be a nightmare…

    Coles and Woolies already have their own justification for price gouging and price inflation. Don't give them another one..

  • Frankly this whole story sounds like BS.

    • Nahh, its so cute story so has to be true.

    • +1

      aaah look at you, you little investigator

  • +2

    I'm surprised Woolies don't have a 'special' return policy for when you accidentally scan something you bought at another store and try to 'return' the invisible item the next day. Must happen all the time /s

  • Haha

  • +1

    Barcodes are product specific - indeed if I am in Woolworth's and want to check price of a product quickly in Coles, I just open the Coles App and scan the Barcode, it shows the price at Coles.

  • +3

    What the heck is a mall?

    • Pitt St Mall
      Campbelltown Mall
      Ashfield Mall
      Winston Hills Mall
      Warringah Mall

      Good try though.

      • +1

        Except they're names of places, not specifically correlated to the American term which OP is using.

  • Had this happen on a minor level after reading this thread. Was a Woolies branded product at local store, so easily solved. Would advocate "kindness" or at least empathy, in case this happens to you.

  • +1

    One time I bought a train ticket and I didn't even see ticketys. Devastated, coulda bought a can of coke.

  • -1

    Barcodes are product-specific, so Peter's drumsticks would have one barcode for that particular packing and flavour and be sold to everyone. If they made a specific version for coles, then it would have a different barcode.

    The same example would be a 600ml Coke at the checkout. they will all be the same barcode, whether its in Coles, Woolworths, Bunnings or Kmart. That is why you will see Kmart and Bunning write with a marker on the lids or barcode with B or K.

  • All that effort over $10…..

  • +1

    Most entertaining post of the year, thanks for posting OP.

    My 2 cents

    Firstly problem is all the retailers sell an overlapping range of goods (including aldi) which use exactly the same SKU (others say barcode). but its the SKU which is published by the manufacturer so unless its a customised product for woollies the code. packaging and almost everything will be the same. There has been talk for years about putting RFID tags on every single product that would allow tracking items in store from delivery to sale and return but too expensive still for supermarket.

    Next.. stock levels would show a discrepancy against the inventory moved through the POS but it doesn't account for thief which is pretty massive in supermarkets these days. No reason it would be different today to tommorow. I'd say they just didn't want to go count the stock for you.

    Thirdly and most importantly we need a name for this kind of added cost in life, I also have the same problem, wife premium cost maybe?

    Finally, after the massive uplift in thief the supermarkets all now record scanning at the register and these records will be for longer than a day as they need it for investigations, so there would be recording of the scanning at the register which might show it being opened or left by you and CCT of you bringing the item into store from outside. So in theory it was managers discretion not to take you for your word. Did you ask nicely? Just sounds like a prick of a manager personally.

    Oh and 9.50 for icecreams. screw woolies.

    • wife premium cost maybe

      Take it out of her Christmas present plus a further deductible in punitive damages. Also, let her know you are doing that to train her for better performance. You won't be getting any performance for a while though.

    • I did ask very nicely but that didn't help. Oh well, I just paid for wife premium lol

  • +2

    A few months ago my wife purchased a bunch of vegies/fruit at woolies and quite a few of the items on the receipt weighed heavier than they actually were on my home scales.

    I took them back into Woolies and suggested that their scales weren't zeroed correctly but they said that was unlikely as they were checked each morning. From the receipt, they tracked town the employee who served me and seemed to think that maybe it was because she was a larger lady and was perhaps leaning on the scales. They reweighed the items and agreed there was a weighing error and gave me a partial refund (it was more about the principal than the dollars and the fact that their systems may have been incorrect weighing a lot of customer's items)

    But… what I think actually happened was due to the fact my wife rarely bags her fruit (to save plastic waste) and thus the checkout operator may have been placing her hand on the top of the fruit on the scales to stop them rolling off. That added weight from her hand was then increasing the overall fruit weight. I didn't come to that realisation until after I had left the store again and asked my wife whether she had bagged them.

    • +1

      May I suggest your wife take her own plastic bags with her for fruit and vegetables. That is what we do to save on waste. Just keep reusing them.

  • +1

    The supermarkets didn't make the mistake. Ask your wife for the money :P

  • +1

    You could show the woolies chick your coles receipt?

    But she may be skeptical that you didn't buy two boxes though.

    Throw up your arms and say loudly "Who buys two boxes of the same product at different stores within minutes of each other!!!".

    But then, it's a hot day you say, so woollies just say you ate them because it was hot.

    But then you say loudly "Why wouldn't I just go back to Coles where it's 5 bucks cheaper - I'm on Ozbargain you know!!"

    Checkmate! woollies chick.

  • Go to Woolies and eat a full pack in store. Plus go to Coles but a pack and give back in Woolies under the $9.50 receipt

    • +1

      Might as well organise a bunch of mates and rob the joint?
      Gotta make sure that the op gets proper even with Woolies.

      • +1

        That's taking it a bit too far IMHO. My suggestion will be a break even for both sides.

  • If I was in this situation I would love to have gone full Joe Exotic and told the manager "I'm never gonna financially recover from this". I was also wondering if it's possible your wife bought and ate a separate packet of ice creams, hid the evidence, and you've been on a wild goose chase this entire time? Sounds unrealistic but my wife and I pull these kind of stunts on one another all the time, sometimes deliberately.

  • Buy another one on sale at any supermarket, then return it to Woolworths with your original Woolworths receipt. At least you might make $4.50 back that way.

  • Barcodes are generated and printed with the product packaging artwork. When we do product labels for retail clients we include the barcode as part of the artwork file to be sent to printer to be mass produced. So barcodes are printed long before we know which store is selling said product. And believe me, we triple check the barcode to make sure its correct, otherwise a very expensive mistake.

  • In the end

    The time spent going to Woolworths
    then posting on here
    and reading all the posts and replies
    probably exceeds the $9.50 mistake by 1000%

    So in summary, the best action is to learn from this error and ask family members to avoid it in the future

    Case concluded.

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