Scanned Icecream at Woolworths That Was Purchased at Coles

Hi OzBargainers, earlier this month, my wife was doing our monthly grocery shopping at Woolworths, while I watched our 3-year-old daughter at the mall. It was a warm day, and my daughter asked for ice cream. So, I went to Coles in the same mall and bought a 4-pack of Peter's drumsticks, enjoying 2 cones myself.

I then received a call from my wife asking me to come to Woolworths to help with the scanning. When I arrived, I realized she had forgotten to pick up my Up&Go drink. I left the half-eaten box of drumsticks in the trolley and grabbed my flavoured milk from the store.

Later that day, after we got home, I found out that my wife had scanned the ice cream box at Woolworths as well. The price at Coles was $4.50, while Woolworths charged $9.50. I decided I would return to the store on my next trip to rectify this.

Today, I spoke with the in-store manager and explained our mistake. She informed me that they couldn’t issue a refund because Coles and Woolworths sell many similar products, and she could have assisted me if I had contacted them on the same day. I was curious, though—since Woolworths is a large retailer, shouldn’t their inventory be recorded via the barcodes of product batches? Wouldn't this allow them to distinguish their products from those sold by other retailers?

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  • +101

    shouldn’t their inventory be recorded via the barcodes of product batches?

    Barcodes are generic and aren’t batch specific like that, atleast not for products sold at the supermarket.

    Also, this was just an unfortunate situation where you could have been more careful yourself. Anyways, stuff happens.

    • +48

      OP's suggestion is a logistic nightmare.

      • +1

        Yeah, I have only ever heard of the pharmaceutical industry running such complex practices.

        • +1

          I think electronics also have more varied barcodes & models to help prevent price-matching and/or regional variants…..

      • +3

        Wants prices to go up to cater to this logistic nightmare

      • +1

        How do they recall products if they have to? Batch number is useful …

        • +3

          They will know which date range is affected, and can see when those were shipped to store.
          If the freezer has 16 boxes of Cornettos and they know 12 were from the affected date range, they just bin all 16.
          Putting a unique sticker on every box would be a pain, and increase system complexity logarithmically.

            • +5

              @Bilalwentwild: Not enough people do that to justify a complex inventory management system.

            • +1

              @Bilalwentwild: If I recall correctly, each pallet of items has a barcode that can be used to determine the quantity of specific items on the pallet. After that, Woolworths does not track items on an individual basis. Just the number of cartons (boxes) and individual products they have stock for. Perhaps individual items might have a batch number on them (probably mostly for recall or other quality purposes) but nothing that's found in a barcode.

              Perhaps they may one day put those details into data matrices or QR codes if they ever fully switch to them but currently that isn't really something they do.

              On another note, if you kick up a fuss about it, there's no reason why they can't review their footage to check whether you got it from their store or not.

            • +1

              @Bilalwentwild: You wouldnt habe a receipt to prove that your bpught the item there and claim damages.

              • -3

                @niggardly: I just bought a Coles ice cream from Woolies and I have Woolies receipt. I didn't get your point

                • @Bilalwentwild: Because if you had a receipt from Coles showing that you purchased the same product for $4.50 (i.e. $5 cheaper) say 20 minutes before the purchase at Woolworths, you at least you have something to back up your case. It 'may' sway the opinion of the manager.

                  Edit: Oops, this is dealt with further down the thread.

            • @Bilalwentwild: barcodes are product specific not item specific.

              a can of coke has a different PLU than a 24 can box of coke which is different from a 30 can box of coke.

              however every can of coke in the country (world?) has the same PLU / barcode.

              sneak into Woolies, scan and come after 10 minutes claiming it's melted/expired/tastes foul and demand damages.

              *scan and pay

              *demand a refund

              • @Antikythera:

                *demand a refund

                They can demand all they like but Woolies don't do refunds unless for statutory reasons (e.g. product is faulty).
                They would have to kick up some serious fuss with the Store Manager. Is all that trouble worth it to save a couple of bucks?

          • @mskeggs: I've never heard any increasing relationship be described as logarithmically unless it was the principle of diminishing returns.

            • @tanguyen: I probably should have said exponentially, but in my head I was thinking of a graph with a log scale that shows a power relationship as a straight line

        • The used by/best before date. Also, printed with that is often other numbers that include factory number, machine line number and time it came off the line.

      • +2

        OP's life is a logistic nightmare.

        Seriously though I wouldn't cop that from the Woolies manager though, seems like BS to me. They have more than enough CCTV footage and recording of you actually self-scanning to satisfy themselves if they really wanted to. They're basically accusing you of shoplifting with no evidence.

          • +6

            @Bilalwentwild: I'm afraid Woolies didn't actually "take advantage". If you scanned a product, paid for it, left the store, it's hard then to return to the store and expect a refund; it's not really their fault.

            PS I did not neg you.

            • -7

              @Deridas: Doesn't it make any difference that the product I scanned wasn't actually their stock?

              • +4

                @Bilalwentwild: They didn't "take advantage" of you. You voluntarily scanned a product with a barcode that existed in their store. Nobody held a gun to your head, nobody forced you to take a product into their store. Please stop having this victim mentality and cop it as a small $9.50 lesson.

    • +4

      Barcodes are generic and aren’t batch specific like that

      Not yet, but GS2 barcodes are coming and they will include batch data.

      • GS2 lol

      • +1

        You actually can already do batch data through GS1 for SSCC labels, basically a barcode for a pallet

    • Only suggestion I have is to ask them to look at their bazillion cameras around the time you did all this if they don’t believe you. They could just refund you because really it’s an outlandish story to make up. I don’t think anyone could have thought it up if it weren’t true.

    • +1

      Well yeah exactly … mistakes happen and people should move on for simple things like this…

    • Agree. And this is only a $5 mistake so the cost is not much. Nothing to see here so move on

  • +18

    Just here to say that this

    I went to Coles in the same mall and bought a 4-pack of Peter's drumsticks, enjoying 2 cones myself.

    was almost a masterpiece play in both savings on buying ice cream in the supermarket and rewards of getting 2 ice creams to yourself while leaving one for your daughter and wife.

    (Although the real genius would have been in eating one and showing up with 3 individually packaged ones and eating them together 😂)

    But alas, it wasn’t to be.

    • +6

      My daughter usually only eats from the top till the point from where the cone starts. So I ate 1 and the other Leftover😅

  • +72

    Woolworths didn’t charge you, your wife did when she scanned it

  • +10

    Sounds like you had a couple of cones alright…

    You show them the receipt from Coles proving the purchase from there and that the scanning from Woolworths was inadvertent and they should refund the money. They can’t charge you for something you didn’t purchase and then say “too bad, so sad…”

    • -5

      I don't have a habit of printing receipts and I am not a Coles member so don't have e-receipt either. Regardless, showing receipt will not prove that the one got scanned was not from Woolies. They can definitely see in CCTV camera I entered in the store with already open box and 1 ice cream in my daughters hand/face/hair. But that's alot of investigation over $9.50.

        • +2

          If you scan your Flybuys card you can see your receipts in the cole’s app if you login and link your flybuys

  • +27

    You’ve spent all this time chasing $9.50 for something that is clearly user error?

    • -3

      That's my local store, and I went there yesterday for milk, so I'm not exactly chasing $9.50. The point of the post is not $9.50; I was curious about how the barcodes of the different batches got scanned by different retailers. 1 time, I bought conditioner thinking it was shampoo in my monthly groceries and then returned that on the next month's grocery shopping. They happily swapped. Didn't say, Oh, you should have called us the same day. Hence I was in no rush this time

      • +9

        The barcodes are not store or batch specific. If you had bought the same box of ice creams 5 years ago, chances are it would still have the same barcode is it does today.

      • +1

        How exactly is the store supposed to know that you didn’t buy a box of ice cream, eat it, then come back for a refund?

        Also the shampoo swap would be easy as it’s not perishable and you purchased it from the same retailer.

        • -3

          Reason I started this topic was to see if it was possible for store manager to trace this "Foreign product" from my receipt. I added the story of shampoo because on various occasions I have found Woolies customer service to be great. Experts have answered what I was looking for. Retailers can't trace other store's products just with barcode/batch numbers.

      • +1

        The point of the post is

        The point of this post is, there is no point of this post

  • +9

    Thank you for the laughs op.

    • +4

      I am glad it made your day a bit brighter 😁

  • +1

    The question I have after all that is why were you and your daughter required for scanning? Woolworths literally employ people to do that. And even if your wife used the new fangled self serve (which she shouldn’t by the way - it’s a curse), then she had to drag her ice cream covered family from the other side of the mall to help her? Like how much stuff do you buy!?

    • +1

      2022 used to be $150~ per month.
      Then I got a work phone and a Woolworths Mobile plan. Since then, we have become carried away a bit, and it has become $180-$200 per month. But it's 2025 now, and I am happy to announce this month was $260. If I don't count my mistake (ice cream), it was $250.5
      My job is to scan the products, and her job is to put them in the bag. That's usually 4 woolies bags. Our local store has ALWAYS long queues at staff-assisted checkout so we have to work as a team

      • +3

        My job is to scan the products, and her job is to put them in the bag.
        I found out that my wife had scanned the ice cream box at Woolworths as well

        Your wife wasn't doing her job.

        • +7

          That's right. It's about time to look for a new one for this position 😋

      • +3

        $250 a month? How is this even possible.

        • I buy things like ice cream popcorn, sugar, and salt once a month. Milk, bread, eggs, fruits veggies are bought separately on a weekly or fortnightly basis

          • @Bilalwentwild: Ah ok that makes more sense. I thought you had some amazing life hack.

          • @Bilalwentwild:

            buy sugar, salt once a month

            I hope you run a restaurant because that can't be too good for you in that quantity.

  • +4

    Groceries from other stores go into a carry bag before you go into the next store. We have fold up backpacks we carry in our sling bags. This means your already bought groceries don’t get mixed up with your to be bought ones.

    • +3

      Thanks for trying to be helpful. I was in the play area with no plans of doing groceries with the baby, but I will keep 1 bag in my pocket from now onwards.

      • +1

        I would suggest getting a sling bag, if you don’t have one. Most things I need are already packed to go when I walk out the door.

  • +3

    enjoying 2 cones myself

    A true OzBargainer would have eaten all 4.

    • +5

      My 3year daughter is also an OZ bargainer so have to look after bargain family

  • +10

    Your only option now is to take a tub of ice cream from woolies to break even. (This is not legal advice)

    • +7

      Next month I will buy $300 worth of groceries and apply 10% off of my whole bill. That will teach them a good lesson😎

      • +5

        You have stumbled onto their marketing model. What you call revenge, they call more money.

        • +2

          I know they have been tricking me but I only buy stuff that I was going to buy anyway regardless of 10% off

  • +4

    Man 2025 is bringing the forum topics early

    • -2

      I hate this, I always find myself commenting deep in the thread of some numpty's brainfart, that got to the front page by all the engagement, because it was so incredibly silly.

      I don't check Ozbargain every 10 minutes for a dumber version of reddit/facebook discussions/arguments, I do it because I was trained to, by the repeated pain of missing out on some of the best bargains, that sold out in minutes, and am not paying attention enough to avoid this natural clickbait.

      Mods, if you can hear me, please let us up/downvote forum posts. Not the comments, the topics themselves. Then you could detect, and so avoid promoting, the stupid ones, automatically, even when they generate a lot of empty rage/splaining.

  • How many Everyday Rewards account do your family have? If only 1 in your wife's phone, create 1 more new account in your phone.

    New account = free 1500 points ;-)
    When it has reached 2000 points, use it for $10 OFF discount of your purchase.

    • Only I have a rewards account and Woolsworth mobile. When I made my account (without Woolsworth mobile), I started from Zero points. Is that an ongoing deal for new accounts?

      • +1

        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/705141

        I just created a new account again with different email and phone number. Login in the app, it shows 1500 points :D

        • Legend!
          It's time for Woolies to pay me back now

          • @Bilalwentwild: There's 200 points offer for my first purchase (any amount) with the new account. So, at least easy 1700 points this week :P

  • +3

    Thank you for your donation to the Woolies Christmas party.

    • +1

      I will take my money back 2x times by applying some points/discount
      Yet, the stocktake person will also not be able to reconcile this stock (I hope nobody steals that specific ice cream flavour box.

      • The golden rule for me is mostly buy half price for goods that are usually half price anyway either in Coles/Woolworths. If not half price, the goods that I really need or want.

        I have shopping list and watch list for goods that I need or like in Coles/Woolies app. Coles, Wollies and Aldi are not far from my home.

      • +3

        The staff will 'accidentally' break a box and "dump" it in the tea room. This is what we use to do…

        • +2

          Instructions not clear.

          Just got fired at Woolies because I accidentally took a dump in the tearoom while on a break.

  • +4

    So, you say " It was a warm day, and my daughter asked for ice cream. So, I went to Coles in the same mall and bought a 4-pack of Peter's drumsticks, enjoying 2 cones myself." and then your wife did this "Later that day, after we got home, I found out that my wife had scanned the ice cream box at Woolworths as well"

    Your wife scanned an OPEN & HALF EMPTY BOX without asking a question like why is this box half empty? - Really?

    Seems dubious.

    • +1

      why is this box half empty? - Really?

      And, I don't remember putting this half open box of ice creams in my trolley.

      • +1

        Or
        "How's my husbands form, gets to skip shopping, and when I call for help, bypasses me while he pillages the Woolies freezer section first and barrels 2 drumsticks before I even see him, then he dumps the evidence on me."

      • We buy ice creams in monthly groceries so seeing a box was not surprising

    • -3

      She didn't see me entering in store with ice cream in my hand. My wife assumed that I picked it up from Woolies and opened it for my daughter. She had seen me give her chupa chups without checking out, so she thought I was generous on my daughter that day and didn't question me.

    • +1

      They weren't ice cream cones

  • +3

    One day, every item will have a unique RFID code, and you just toss them in the trolley and walk out, with automatic billing. But not yet.

    • It’s already being trialed by Colesworth

      • I think you may be confusing RFID with "Scan'n'go" ?
        They are using RFID in the supply chain, but not individual items, except some high-value ones.

        • If taking the item off the shelf activates a scannable moment, what happens if you change your mind and put the item back on the shelf before leaving the shop?

          That kind of transaction changes the entire contract law formation.

    • One day Colesworth will just deliver through drones and self driving cars. Going to a store yourself will be a throwback, something old people do.

      • Online ordering and delivery is already quite good. What they need is an API, and your AI assistant to help you with the week's shopping list.

    • Uniqlo already use RFID, found out when I tried to return an online purchase with an instore receipt (due to price drop) and the exact same item didn't match up :(

  • +6

    Store is not responsible for customer stupidity.

    You buy something you later decide you shouldn't have … not store's problem.

    You scan something at one store that you bought at another store … not store's problem.

    Etc.

  • lol

  • +1

    How was your $14 box of Peter's drumsticks?

    • +4

      It tasted exactly like $4.50!

  • +1

    I read that in Europe they scan QR codes instead of bar codes for perishables. QR codes contain expiry dates so you do not end up buying expired food as checkout will be blocked for those. Not that it would help in OP's case…

    • It's a GS2 code, looks similar to a QR code though

  • Whilst scanning, the self serve checkout validates weight of the item recorded in the system versus what is added to the bag area. I assume woolworths would also track in their own systems the actual weight of each item that went through the register. If you ate half the contents, then there should be a weight discrepancy.

    They also have camera footage. If you have a big history of shopping at woolworths (that you can prove via everyday rewards), I'd pursue it regardless of it being your own mistake.

    • I don't know how my wife bypassed that weight error. I have shopped from Woolies only for the last 2 years with a record of everyday rewards, but it's too much of a hassle to trace CCTV footage. I was happy to show my receipt to track the exact product, but the manager was not interested. I can only request, not demand, from my position.

      • +2

        I once had a ghost item added to my Aldi shop. Something I never buy but appeared on the receipt for $5. Went back two weeks later and told the manager I never bought it. He was sceptical, but loaded the cctv for my order two weeks earlier. Took him a while (I did other shopping and came back) in the end he agreed it was never scanned and gave me my money back.

        • That's a great customer service! Lucky you! I also revisited the store with 10days of original purchase but manager said its too late to do anything about it

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