"Reasonable" Lifespan for a Baby Bottle Steriliser

Hi all,

My wife is currently pregnant expecting our first and of course she is doing all the research in terms of things we will be purchasing. We aren't due until late March and she has been holding off purchasing a baby bottle UV steriliser, specifically the Minbie which is $390 i.e. on the higher end of things I believe. I've already tried to convince her about using our dishwasher sanitiser function, microwave steriliser, Milton tabs etc so no need to get into that side of things.

Anyway the Minbie comes with a one year warranty from the manufacturer. My wife specifically did not buy it during an Xmas sale because 3 of those 12 months would be "wasted" as the baby hasn't been born yet. In my eyes something that costs this much should be expected to be function for at least 2 years if not longer.

I understand that potentially we have statutory protections under the ACL in case it does break in the 12-24 month timeframe but I am interested to know if the general public feel this is reasonable or not.

Thanks!

Poll Options expired

  • 12
    Minbie 12 month warranty is reasonable.
  • 64
    ACL overrides the business warranty so 2 years would be reasonable.
  • 15
    Other (please comment).

Comments

  • +15

    Best ones are those plastic ones which take 6?? Bottles and as many bits as you can shove in. Pop in water and microwave. God's gift to zombie parents.

    Link for style only

    https://www.bubs2bratz.com.au/shop/microwave-bottle-steriliz…

    • +2

      Yeah if it were up to me I'd be going down this pathway or a big pot of boiling water but alas she has made up her mind haha.

      • +8

        Had one Kmart microwave steriliser last 2 children. Don't think it cost more than $20.

        Point out to your wife that as long as it works, any way to save money is more important than getting something that is currently socially attractive.

      • It doesn't help when her friends are touting for UV sterilisers :p

      • We did the boiling pot for some reason, zombie state probably. Don't. When you leave everything in there and forget about it, well you know the outcome. Of course I did this right as everything shut for the day so I was popular. Microwave works much better and also everything seemed to last longer, especially the bottles. They would get cloudy pretty quick using the pot method - probably in there too long and too much heat. We were replacing bottles every 3ish months.

        • +1

          They would get cloudy pretty quick using the pot method - probably in there too long and too much heat. We were replacing bottles every 3ish months.

          Yeah, something wasn't going right there. We never replaced our bottles! But we just hand washed with detergent.

    • +11

      Why spend $15 when you can spend $400?

      • +2

        Don't forget the weight loss push present she will be asking for!

    • +3

      Was going to comment the exact same thing. I managed to convince my wife on this, and it's just so easy, quick and simple to throw bottles in these and chuck in the microwave.

      Lost a few other fights, but now my son is 3 years old she's come around to realising these expensive baby products are waste of money.

    • Please for the sake of your child, no plastic bottle. Heating up plastic exacerbates the degrading process https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041202…
      When my kids were young, I use a pot to sterile my children's glass bottles

      • +1

        Not sure why you were downvoted, but i will be avoiding plastic bottles when I have kids. Mostly a glass bottle in a rubber sleeve to give it some drop protection

        • Good idea, I still have those glass bottle, Dymple ( yes the cheap Big W's own brand ), Philip Advent, Tommie Tippee, no rubber sleeve, drop it a lot of times, I mean kept walking up 2-4 times a night for 6months took a toll on motor skill. Oh sweet memory. GL with your endeavor

          PS: Try to stay with breast milk which is WAYs better for baby. My baby went through 2-3 formulas ( organic one ) a week, cost a fortune …

  • +2

    Been some time but iirc we were able to resell our minbie for about 70% of what we paid, used for both kids . It was very well looked after, had all the original boxes etc. we thought it was worth it.

    • Sounds like we'll get our money's worth at least!

  • +1

    1-year warranty is standard fare for consumer electronics to cover manufacturing defects. There's a wide debate as to whether an item that breaks after 2-years of use is considered manufacturer's issue or not. As such, there's the ACL guarantee (not warranty - there's a difference!) to cover you but the 'reasonable' timeframe agreement is going to be between you and customer service rep.

    I would highly recommend a Baby Brezza Formula Pro and a Tommee Tippee UV Steriliser & Dryer. They have done a lot of the heavy lifting for us in a convenient manner. The Minbie's website is overly focused on influencer advertising which is an instant turn-off.

    • Thank you for your suggestions. I agree - basically if I see an ad for something on Instagram I will actively avoid said product!

      As for the ACL I guess it depends on how much time we have on our hands to press the issue which I guess as new parents may not be very much haha

  • +20

    specifically the Minbie which is $390

    And this is how you know mummy influencer videos and tiktoks work :)
    Crazy $ for doing a baby bottle task people have been doing for 'ever'

    • I know right?! My goodness I wish I could have thought of this idea. Although we did buy a Choice membership and some of the stuff we've bought is from Ikea or Kmart so not all the purchases have been so painful haha

    • +16

      It is not unusual to collect breast milk with a pump, bottle it, then give the bottle to the baby. It's not unusual to not produce quite enough breast milk either and need to supplement with some formula.

      • -6

        Agreed. But the baby hasn’t been born yet

        • By the time the baby is born, it is too late to think about warranties.

          • +1

            @S2: Wait, babies come with warranty?

      • -1

        Also not unusual for some mums to simply not want to breastfeed.

    • +3

      I don't believe in only my wife breastfeeding overnight while I sleep or do nothing. So if anything it will be a combination of breast + expressing +/- formula depending on her supply.

      • +3

        just be aware every kid is different and ours wouldn't take a bottle. We tried many different brands & baby just wasn't having it.

        • +1

          Yep, ours took the bottle for the first day that we tried, then he pretty much flat out refuses now :-(

      • +1

        I’ll probably try the “let’s wait and see if we’re going to need it, and we’ll buy it then” approach. Our little one has been ok with breastfeeding, so even the expression contraption saw very little use. Midwives were super persistent on getting us to give breastfeeding our best shot and doing everything to troubleshoot it before letting us try anything else.

      • https://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/resources/cleaning-expressi…

        Just FYI if only expressing and no formula then you don't need to sterilise (if baby healthy and full-term)

    • +5

      How many children have you breastfed? How did it go?

      • +1

        3.
        Great thanks

  • -2

    Just forget about buying anything "cheap" for your baby. You will be buying the most expensive/trendy version of everything and buying it brand new for the next 12 months at least. Accept the pain, don't fight it.

    • +2

      Hahah no! I still fight every step of the way but inevitably I come out the loser in these battles.

      • Assuming you are a guy, If you have a boy, you may still have a chance to have your voice heard, but if it's a girl forget it

    • +2

      hmm, i just did bottles in dishwasher , as a dad i miss a memo ?

      • Not all new mums are the same and I envy your experience. I just empathise with OP, having gone through the same type of discussions:

        I've already tried to convince her about using our dishwasher sanitiser function, microwave steriliser, Milton tabs etc so no need to get into that side of things.

    • +1

      And will be bullied at school if they don't wear branded clothes, have the latest iPhone 23 and parental pressure to spend at least $1000 on every birthday party. So factor in these costs on top of normal child costs.

  • +1

    We only ever sterilised for the first year. I’d be absolutely appalled if a 390 steriliser died within the year. I do have an expensive UV steriliser/dryer and it’s 100% worth it!

    • +2

      I've also read that sterilisation is unnecessary beyond the first year once Bub's immune system is more capable. Thanks for the vote of confidence!

      • +2

        An uncle who was a GP said to stop sterilising once they go on the floor. I couldn't help myself and did it for longer.

        And the germs they pick up help the immune system.

        • +1

          I was avoiding pulling the "doctor's advice" thing, but ours in the family literally laughed when we asked about bottle sterilisers. She's extremely no-BS, has three kids.

        • i just used to wash bottles in dishwasher , same with dropped dummies, back in the mouth no sterilizing. Son has grown up healthy. Mother used to breast feed when she could and formula when she was at work and i was at home.

        • "An uncle who was a GP said to stop sterilising once they go on the floor. I couldn't help myself and did it for longer.

          And the germs they pick up help the immune system."

          Seems like you're contradicting yourself.

      • +1

        Newborn it's absolutely needed, however once they start crawling I see no point. The amount of things they pick up and put in their mouth is crazy. Still took me awhile though to stop the routine.

  • +2

    We aren't due

    I thought you said only your wife was pregnant?

    • +3

      Not me doing a pregnancy style photo shoot with a fresh kfc zinger box to the side while I look loving down at my belly.

    • +2

      Life uh… Finds a way

  • +7

    Sorry, but $390 is nuts - back when my kid was a baby, I just chucked bottles and accessories into a steamer (like the ones you'd use for dumplings) over a boiling pot of water on a stove. Worked perfectly fine. Most dishwashers also have a sterilise function.

    I understand that potentially we have statutory protections under the ACL in case it does break in the 12-24 month timeframe but I am interested to know if the general public feel this is reasonable or not.

    The issue with ACL is that unless you're willing to take a retailer to court, it's not really worth anything. If it's outside of the warranty period and the retailer refuses to help you, what are you going to do? If nothing, then that's exactly what the statutory warranty is worth to you.

    • Ah I thought you'd be going through NCAT for something like this? Or is that what you meant by going to court?

      I completely agree with you though - our dishwasher does have a sanitiser function and we have fully functional microwave and stovetop! But alas the power of marketing works for my wife.

      • Ah I thought you'd be going through NCAT for something like this? Or is that what you meant by going to court?

        Yes, I mean NCAT / VCAT…etc., but the question stands, which is that if a retailer refuses to help you, would you take them to NCAT?

        As someone who has done this before (over a work some builders have done, worth significantly more than $390), it's not a simple process - it takes some amount of time to do all of the paperwork, it takes an ungodly amount of time for the case to actually be heard, and there's some level of stress involved in the entire process.

        From memory, it can take 1-2 years for your case to be heard. Does that help you?

  • +1

    Warranties are just marketing gimmicks.

    You seem to be approaching this as if the equipment will fail on day 366, however no name brand company would be happy with the shitty google reviews if that was a regular thing.

    In most cases it will be fine, but regardless, you can still make a claim for a repair, replacement or refund outside of that period.

    Honestly, people need to stop focusing on warranties as if they actually mean something.

    • If you use a $390 product more than once a day, every day, I doubt you will have much under ACL.

  • I'm up early and haven't had coffee yet but if I'm reading this correctly you're asking about warranty and failure on a product you haven't bought for a kid you don't have?

    Anyway, warranty periods are pretty much meaning less. I think it reasonable that a bottle steriliser that cost 4 times more than most on the market last at least as long as the baby does.

    • Yep! Basically the wife wants this particular product which was on sale back over Xmas but she didn't buy it because we wouldn't be able to use it for several months. As the warranty is only for 12 months if it failed prematurely we'd be up the creek hence she's waiting until the child is actually born but obviously we won't get the sale price.

      My opinion is that she should've just bought it months ago because even if it fails after the 12 months warranty is up the product should still be covered by ACL rights or something along those lines.

      Just wanted to see if my thoughts aligned with those in the general community.

      • yes i’m a dad but recall written somewhere “ the miracle of birth … for the billionth time” , wait till they don’t drink the whole bottle and give them the rest a bit later and “oh i didn’t transfer to a new sterilized bottle” they will survive, just use some common hygiene and food storage sense.

  • +2

    We have a Philips Avent and it is going strong after 16 months. Never had an issue with it and use it almost daily. We use it in Auto Mode and no concerns.

    specifically the Minbie which is $390 i.e. on the higher end of things I believe.

    $390 is a joke.

    I've already tried to convince her about using our dishwasher sanitiser function, microwave steriliser, Milton tabs etc so no need to get into that side of things.

    The dishwasher might be too hot. I did this stupidly once and deformed the bottle.

    • +2

      Unlikely. Most dishwashers only go up to 70ish degrees even on sanitation mode. Steam sterilisers and boiling sterilisation will go a lot hotter.

      • Unlikely

        I have a bottle that is proof my dishwasher deformed a bottle…..

        • +1

          Either there is something wrong with the bottle or your dishwasher defies the laws of physics. All baby bottles should be able to withstand 100 degrees, which is the maximum temperature water at normal atmospheric pressure will get to.

          • @djsweet: Gotta agree here.

            Steam will be 100d degrees.

  • +3

    Get the most expensive one and call it a push present.

  • +2

    Is there no ozone risk with uv sterilisers? Considering the concerns with micro doses of chemicals, gases and plastics these days, I wouldn’t be introducing an ozone source around a new born if it wasn’t necessary.

    That said, it is very precautionary and my own kids grew up with gas heaters and plastic bottles.

  • +4

    Use a steam one. No issues.

  • +13

    Wife: Use the machine to sterile the bottles, cups, small toys.

    Them: Crawl and lick everything they can grab on the floor including thongs and shoes.

    • -1

      Newborns don't crawl anywhere.

      • Correct, but they can do from about 12 months (give or take) and they are still having bottles. My son is 15 months, still has bottles and is walking.

        • +1

          There's no need to sterilise bottles for a 12-month-old; just wash them like any other cup or bowl.

  • +2

    Next thing we get a post about whether exy sterilizer under ACL should last 10 years. No, because they have to pay the influencers to influence your wife.

  • I would say 2 years considering the price and when baby bottles are not needed to be sterilized between each use. After this you won't need the sterelizer, just do normal wash on them.

  • Hey we’ve UV the bottles, too bad we’ve got skin cancer now. $390.00 seems a total waste of money.

  • Bottle sterilisers seem to me a total waste of money and countertop space. You wash a bottle out with hot water and detergent - it's sterilised. Soaps pretty much destroy the protective sheathing of bacterial and viruses and kill / denature them.

    $400 for a steriliser seems to be a triumph of marketing over common sense.

    • +1

      hot water and detergent will sanitise but not sterilise. There's a difference but it's up to you to decide if sanitising is sufficient.

  • +2

    "In my eyes something that costs this much should be expected to be function for at least 2 years if not longer." <— You can't really just make up "2 years" and expect the manufacturer to agree though.

    $400 is absolute madness, looks like a successful marketing campaign.
    A cheap plastic microwave steam thing from Kmart did the trick for us, costs $17 (less back then) and I never had any complaints.

    Whatever luxurious $400 crap/idea is going to be thrown out the window when you average 3 hrs sleep a night for 6 months, and mind-numbing poo cleaning diaper changing multiple times every day. Tell the Mrs to stop watching tik tok videos.

  • +1

    I remember social media like Insta and it’s toxity making parents super conscious about every little thing growing a baby , it’s so sad the high standards sheep heavy media parents judge others..

    These kind of judgy couples are the death of society tbh, non of those Standards meant jack decades ago
    Sad

  • Just use a microwave steriliser, once you have a second baby you care even less. $390 is a waste of money.

  • +1
  • +3

    Waste of money.

    There are literally germs everywhere including on your hands that are touching the baby.

    These are predatory products that work on people's fears and anxiety.

    Human babies should be exposed to germs and other things to build an immunity to these things.

    FYI: Dad here with a 3 year old. I've always just rinsed the bottles with fairly hot water after cleaning them.

  • +2

    I just washed and rinsed my son's bottles…. air dried them…. then used again.

  • I bought a minbie a few years ago but it was $150 which is much more reasonable… It definitely worked well for us and it's been borrowed by others as well without any problems

  • We just rinse our bottles after use and out in the fridge for next feedm wash with fosh soap every 12 hours. Boom

  • +3

    We sterilised everything for our first. By the third we were doing plain old washing. Dummies that fell on the floor went straight back in. The same people who told us to avoid peanuts during pregnancy are the same ones telling you to sterilise baby stuff. The peanut advice is responsible for all the kids with peanut allergies. Gut flora (bacteria) are vital to health, and the flora develop from the very messy process of birth and food/fingers/toys going in the mouth

    • +1

      Not sure why you got downvoted…

      We used to boil our bottles now and then after many uses for a more thorough clean, but mostly just washed them out. Everything aimed at new borns is about milking (hah!) as much money out of parents as possible.

  • So just come additional commentary as I can see OP bagging out his wife around "falling for marketing".

    Basically it's this, child rearing is as easy (or as hard) as you want to make it. Depending on your financial wherewithal, you can make the first one year easy as.

    The UV steriliser is one of the small things that really helps with this. We used one for the first year and while I was initially skeptical, it soon won me over. Not only did it reliably sterilise everything from bottles, breast pump tubing, pacifiers, little chew toys, etc, it also dried and kept the interiors germ free. We used the boiling pot, microwave method, especially when traveling, and it fking sucked in comparison.

    Similarly, when we switched from breast feeding to formula, it was exceptionally useful to have a Baby Brezza. Most would balk at the price of the device, but for us it made our night feedings effortless … pick a bottle from the UV steriliser, put under brezza, bottle ready in under 30 seconds with warm formula.

    Most of these devices also retain a decent portion of their value, so you can sell on the second hand market once done.

    Edit: Last thing I'd like to add, I absolutely love the Comotomo silicone bottles. They are absolutely epic!

    • +4

      "Not only did it reliably sterilise everything from bottles, breast pump tubing, pacifiers, little chew toys, etc, it also dried and kept the interiors germ free"

      That's impressive you were able to tell the absence of germs and sterilization in a home setting! What did you use to test them? Agar plates?

      • +1

        Ahh lol. Fair call.

        There was an assumption there as to the "efficacy" of sterilisation. I understand UV sterilisers are fairly well regarded (we have a fair few docs in the family, one of whom worked with the industrial variant of this within a burns unit).

        The key benefit in my mind was the ease of use, the internal drying function, and sterilised storage of stuff till it was ready to be used (e.g. pacifiers and the like). There were a few things, like portable water warmers that couldn't be trivially sterilised using the microwave/boiled water method, but was easy to sterilise within the UV steriliser.

  • +2

    This is why people on 250k a year are crying that they have no money.

  • Given babies are popping out every minute in 3rd world countries with less than sanitary conditions and a hygienic environment that we’re accustomed too and probably take for granted, one really needs to reflect on this and ask do I (or misses need this?) Maybe with the spare cash, put it towards sponsoring a child for 12 months instead, can be the bubs virtual twin. Then u can compare between the have and have nots.

    • +1

      This is the whole reason why there is a huge variation of infant mortality (reported) between developing countries vs highly developed countries like Australia.

      https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortalit…

      Not saying its the use of sterilisation in particular that leads to this, but likely is a whole range of different factors that cumulatively lead to better outcomes for infants in the developed world. These could range from better access to continual healthcare, better nutrition, access to clean water, "protocols" around safe sleeping arrangements etc.

      Edit: Having said that - I do sometimes feel that we're erring too far on the side of caution with certain things. Sterilisation being a key one… we weaned off sterilisation as soon as the lad started crawling, as it was time to get their immune system up to speed.

      • +1

        Agree with you there.

        150 years ago, surgeons didn't even bother washing their hands.

        Fortunately, medicine is much less risky these days in first world countries.

        You're talking a risk getting surgery at the a third world country.

  • Not a fan of microwaving for baby bottles.

    We used a steamer.

    I do have a question, how do you know that a UV steriliser is working? The coloured light itself isn't a true indication.

  • +2

    We purchased a Philips Avent steamer when the kids were born, and used it almost daily for 6 years. Still going, just remember to do the vinegar wash every so often.

  • +1

    Pressure cookers are basically an autoclave when used in an appropriate manner.

    I have some "personal hobbies" that require sterile equipment and have a pressure cooker dedicated as a sterilizer for this purpose.

    We won't get into the specifics of this since it's ozbargain, but let's just say if the pressure cooker wasn't doing it's job I'd have ended up in hospital multiple times over the last few years or maybe I'd be dead lol.

    Given your baby is simply ingesting something out of said bottle, I wouldn't see it as an issue. There are quite a few studies going over how they compare to traditional sterilization equipment. Might be worth reviewing the same for UV sterilization, I imagine any product directly marketed for this "should" be safe though.

    That said ACL should get you longer than a year on an item that costs that much and it might just be a lot more convenient. You could definitely do it a bit cheaper with a pressure cooker and probably find something with a better warranty though, at the expense of convenience. It would be unreasonable for a product you have purchased for this to not last the duration of your required use for one child.

    Congrats on the baby mate

  • +1

    We started with sterilisers but realised our Dishwasher has a sanitary setting, never looked back for all 3 kids. One less useless appliance to clean and take up space.

  • Once you have the baby you can worry about the baby's warranty rather than trivial item's like warranty on a $400 optional accessory.

  • UV sterilizer? What's wrong with sterilising bottles with boiling water?

  • Long time ago now (they are 18 and 21) but we had the Avent steraliser which was very popular and easy to sell when we didn't need it any more.

  • I purchased the tommee tee uv steriliser and dryer which we got on sale for $150. However if i was able to go back i would purchase the Baby brezza washer, steriliser and dryer combo.

  • Depends on the failure, if its just a UV bulb then i'd cop that and buy one, if it was something else inside the body of the unit that failed then yes I'd expect either leniency on when it was purchased Vs when the baby arrived (many people buy stuff at baby expos months before the kid arrives), but if its just for one kid i'd expect 2 years or more from it, if you had triplets and the thing is running all day and night then thats another story.
    So yes 2 years would seem appropriate for major failure items outside of the UV bulb.

  • Some Instant Pots have a sterilise function, use that. The combination of a sealed vessel and extreme heat will completely sterilise everything. Pressure cookers are sometimes used as a DIY autoclave, as another poster mentioned.

  • Should be for the lifetime of the baby

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