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It reminds me of an Alfa 4C/Giulietta at the front and the lines at the back are neat. Not offensively looking at all
All the people going on about depreciation miss the most important detail: EVs were new tech. With relatively low volumes they didn't achieve economies of scale.
That explains the high prices of previous years, and the high prices still charged by manufacturers that don't sell many EVs.
What we see right now is that prices transition to where they should be, given the efficiency gains of mass production. They will eventually approach the price of a similar sized and similar specced ICE of a comparable brand. Essentially: at some point the production cost of a battery and electric motor will be pretty similar to that of a combustion engine and transmission. All the rest of the car still costs money. That's where prices are headed. They are not headed to zero.
The recent specials we've seen from MG and Ora are pretty close to where things are going to end up in the long term.
As to depreciation: if you buy at these current discounted prices, price drops for new cars aren't going to factor much any more, since there won't be many.
What still matters is brand recognition and perceived long term reliability. An MG ICE depreciates faster (as a percentage) than a Toyota ICE, but it also costs a lot less up front, so in absolute numbers there's not much difference.
tempting, I do like the look as well
Is there any possibility in the near future that an EV will have a turbo motor, and fully manual transmission i.e. with clutch pedal and gear stick?
It's not necessary. As much as I love the heart and soul of a petrol car, it all comes from trying to give more power and efficiency to an inefficient engine.
EVs can send all the power to the wheels already, if you want more power you make sure the powertrain can handle it. Only a few cars have gears at all and there's no need to make it manual because no one would know how to use it (it's also basically highway vs not highway).
Toyota are making an EV with a gear stick and clutch if you really want it, but it's aimed at Americans who love guns, loud noises and marrying their cousins and it doesn't actually do anything. Personally I'd buy an MX5, maintain it well and take it out on weekend drives for the love of driving. Then use a normal EV for the rest of the time.
A clutch and manual transmission in an electric car…? I hope you haven't wasted your money on studying mechanical engineering!
Did you miss the part where the commenter said that it “doesn’t actually do anything”?
About as much chance as them coming with a manual choke.
Turbo means it takes the exhaust and pipes it into the air intake to increase the flow. That just doesn’t work for an electric vehicle.
Will this pick up girls?
Yes, 4
I usually throw 2 more in the boot
As an Ora owner, can state they will need to be amputee midgets!
Boot's a little tiny , good luck with fitting 2 in there.
OMG Look at its cute beetle face. I love it.
I like the way it looks too.
My turn 🙋 to be lightly sassed by Mr Bob Dobalina
Certainly not as good as the deals back when we had the QLD BEV rebate.
The tyres are very average, and it's a shame they cheaped out and never activated the mobile app and e-sim. In general though it's been a good little town car, and I quite like the unusual design personally.
Support is a bit hit and miss, ie they had a safety recall in 2023 but were still selling vehicles that didn't have the software update during 2024, and then taking months to get the update installed.
Depending on what city one is in you can get these for around $30k if you go into a dealership. Carsales website has some on there. Apparently they are manufactured in 2023 maybe? Apparently a lot are sitting around waiting to be purchased. Worth reading some of the other ozbargain pages to be fully aware. Still seems like good value if you don't mind the look at 30k, great if in WA and can get the rebate.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/878910
Dolphin has 3k off and a free charger currently and the MG4 has some good sales still? hopefully more sales\deals coming along in the next 6 months leading up to EOFY.I have a work colleague who bought an extended range demo (4000km last year's model) for $25k a few months ago. I drove it with 4 of us in the car and I was quite impressed with how well it pulled from 0 to 70kmh (I didn't go any faster).
I saw an ora with 4 people in it this morning, it pulled from the lights very fast, and it's accelaration stopped at exactly 70kmh. The reason for it did not go any faster is unknown.
ticket price is usually where people draw the line in their speed
They probably activated the active cruise control set to 70. Uses mm wave radar (and possibly the camera) to maintain speed as well as distance to cars ahead.
Speed limit was 70kmh and I was in a built up area with traffic.
Still $10k overpriced.
The best value for it, is to use it as a battery to power home.
A Tesla battery costs $10k for 10kwh. To power your home at night, you need at least 50kwh. But the extended range Ora is only $35990 drive away with a 62kwh battery. Thats 6x Tesla battery plus a car you can drive!
With tariff being a joke now, its not a bad idea to store all that extra solar power in its battery and use it to power the house at night and you never have to pay for electricity again.
For those who have access to novated lease, you get the battery on wheels tax free and FBT free, which you cant get of just buy the battery.
I'm think of buying 2 of this. Yes, it may not drive that well, but as a family second car, to do a quick drive for shopping, work and school run, its more than enough. Keep the big SUV for family trips oj weekends.
You need both your car and wall charger to support V2G to use your car like a home battery
Yeah one day once V2G is a reality…
To power your home at night, you need at least 50kwh
It depends but 50Kwh is a very specific number, you growing stuff with lamps and hydroponics?
V2H is all you need
To power your home at night, you need at least 50kwh.
wtaf you running at night? Average household uses 20kWh a day with 40% of it during the day.
So that leaves 60% (12kWh) needed for evening, night and early morning.
Yeah he growing somting…
3 fridges, 15 split system ACs. Biggest possible 10 amp top loader made in USA washing machine thats runs 3x a day. Something like that.
15 split system ACs.
There's your problem, your house is nothing like the average house. Is that 15 separate rooms that you have air conditioners in, and you run all of them all night? Most houses don't even have 15 rooms, let alone 15 rooms with air conditioners. Excluding kitchen, laundry, bathroom, toilet and garage, rooms that don't normally have air conditioning, my house has only bedrooms and the dining/living area.
made in USA washing machine thats runs 3x a day.
21 washing loads a week? Your house sounds more like a boarding house.
Any EV below 350km range should be priced below $15k.
How many days a year do you drive more than 350km? How many families have more than 1 car and all of them need to do 350km each day and tow a boat at the same time?
While it might not be the perfect vehicle for everyone, or the perfect vehicle for all trips, an EV with 350km range (or even 250km) will still do a better job than an ICE for 90% of people 90% of the time. Once it costs about the same as an ICE to buy it's the logical choice for most. Lower running cost, lower maintenance and simply better to drive. Prices at the level of this one, and what MG offers, are already fair.
What stops people here right now is the FUD spewed by companies interested in keeping them driving ICE. The car makes that don't have compelling EVs (i.e. Toyota), and big oil. And of course by the paid and unpaid morons that are afraid of any change and will happily repeat rubbish.
Over time that will wear off. When people see that EVs last the distance. When charging infrastructure improves. If Norway can do it, so can we. Kick the addiction to burning oil.
Yea. Keep dreaming. When you have your own ev manufacturing company (which i dont think it will happen in this life) price it at 15k a pop.
You will be known as dumbest car manufacturer in this planet.
Chuck it after 10yrs its @ $70 week + insurance, rego and servicing.
The best EV in this market you can get for the price.
Any Chinese Plug in Hybrid at a reasonable cost as an alternative to RAV4 or Outlander PHEV ?
Closest would be BYD Sealion 6 at 49K.
MG hs plus ev?
Just here to read the hate posts.
You're in the right place.
Apparently Yaris lovers (and those that don't like them either?) are getting triggered hard…
Id probably get one of these or a mg4 if I lived in the city.
What’s the downside of providing an ABN? Higher tax?
May ask for evidence, only awkward thing. Costco does this, may be a NDIS sole trader making 150k a year, but they think your a scammer compared to a part time plumber
What evidence?
Actually, if you are registered for GST then you can claim that 10% back.
FYI many of these cars were built in 2023. They have a huge number of them just sitting unsold. Way nicer interior than MG4 but I think I think the exterior puts off a lot of people where the mg looks nice & sporty
With a black roof the paint will fade in the scorching hot Australian sun in a few years
I don't know if it'll fade, but having a black roof is a stupid idea in a hot climate like most places in Australia. For cars and also for houses. They do have a model with a white roof, but it has black paint on the body.
All car paint will fade with time
I have one and hate the blinkers. Other than that they are decent enough. I have a higher spec model with sunroof , ventilated/ heated massaging seats, heated steering wheel , self parking, auto boot opener.
All come with same engine and 360 degree camera.
Cheap to run, service costs $99/ year.Hated the blinkers as well. But now quite used to the half press in either direction to cancel.
Biggest annoyance is inability to defog the windscreen effiectively/easily!Took more than an hour to scrub off the coating from inside window, and was fine after that.
Have a loaner car now, awful H6 and it too has that same horrible coating inside that no one has cleaned off.
No Android Auto. That's a shame.
The car is okay looking for a runabout and 250km a day/week is plenty for a lot of people.
I'd bite if it had AA and was less than $23K.
@BBF - A recent update enables AA
Good to know. Pity the website and brochure doesn't mention it.
Bugger @d2567 that it stuffed your car.
They come with android auto now , it's been available as software update for around 6 months.
Unfortunately they have bricked the head unit trying to install it on my vehicle, so driving the horrible large ICE loaner vehicle now.
According to various dealerships, this car has keyless entry and keyless start. Am I the only person who thinks this is a negative, surely it just makes the car easier to steal.
I guess someone could do the RFID/NFC cloner thing
According to the news, many car thieves do this. I wouldn't be surprised to find YouTube videos showing step-by-step how to steal a keyless car.
I guess you can keep your key fob thing inside an RFID blocking case or line your pockets with the stuff
@Nubbin: I'd rather have a car that doesn't have keyless entry.
I suspect car manufacturers think increased car theft will increase their sales, and that's why keyless is being forced on us.
@Russ: Higher tech in general means cars will be harder to steal in future. You'll eventually be able to track your car and shut it down remotely if stolen. Teslas already have that feature. If a thief is sophisticated enough to clone fobs, I'd be more worried about my bank cards.
If a thief is sophisticated enough to clone fobs
That's not what thieves are doing. Most such thefts use a "relay attack", all you need is a device you can buy from eBay/AliExpress for less than $100.
Cars currently have "lowest manufactured cost" security, and it's obviously not high security. Which is pretty shameful really, car manufacturers have known about this for years and it looks very much like they aren't interested in fixing it, when it should be a trivial problem.
I'd be more worried about my bank cards.
They can't be hacked until you're within a metre of them, you have to power the card by magnetic inductive coupling. And then receive the information the same way. If modern cars used that exact same technology, I'd be far less concerned.
My 25-year-old Toyota car has this technology in the key, it's not new. No battery in that car key.
@Russ: oooh that's sneaky, I'd never heard of the relay thing! I thought that they used a similar trick to stealing and cloning cards to get keyless entry. This is why we can't have nice things.
They don't bother with that anymore. Now they have a dongle that plugs into the OBD port and starts the car. All they have to do is cut the horn wire and force entry. On some cars they cut the plastic guard and hack the computer through the canbus wiring to the headlight.
Sounds like the car companies have no interest in making cars difficult to steal.
Chinese cars are great. I drive a 2024 MG ZS Excite. For $22,990 with 10 years warranty nothing comes close to value for money. I look around at Mazda, Toyota, Hyundai and Kia and you get less warranty for pretty much the same vehicle for about $10,000 extra. Go China!
It's cute!
How does this compare with model y ?
It's half the price.
and a quarter of the car.
How so?
Based on curb weight it's 79%. Pretty good value in comparison, if you ask me.
Of course that's without all the Musk baggage that would rule out a Tesla for me these days.
Even with all the deals on gwm and byd, all I see around here is still Tesla.
I have driven both Ora and MG4.
Purchased an MG4 but only after almost buying an Ora. Another family member has purchased an Ora GT.What I like about the Ora:
- Styling/Design. That face. The shape. No flat surfaces, only curves. Not everyone likes it, but I do. The GWM Ora was designed by ex Porsche Emanuel Derta.
- Light(er) weight.
- 360 camera is so much better/clearer and more responsive than the one on the MG4
- Electric seats, nice upholstery/quilting.
- twin screen dash is very tidy, and a much cleaner approach than the MG4.
- Interior design looks brighter and a class above the MG4. Dashboard covered in faux suede look material with chrome accents around switches looks great.
- 11kW type 2 charging.
- Seat memory, heating and ventilation. (on the GT)
What I don't like as much about the Ora
1. Small boot
2. No app
3. Screen navigation can be fiddly
4. Gear selector keeps spinning, unlike the MG4 which springs back.
5. Slow DC charging.
Very fair assessment there. Depending on your needs it’s great to have the choice.
Would you buy the Ora over the MG4 now?
For me, I am still happy with the MG4, seats offer better support, it is comfortable and enjoyable to drive, but it remains much more basic in comparison.
However every time I get in the Ora I remain jealous of the parking sensors all round, the superior 360 camera, the auto parking, and the seat vent/memory - none of these features (apart from the potato 360 cam) are available at any trim level in the MG4.Sounds to me if you could do it again you would buy the Ora instead
What did you like about the mg4 in comparison? I found it a bit bare bones even in the awd version and bought an Atto (albeit fwd of course).
I preferred how it felt to drive, and it felt better put together overall.
While driving the MG4, it was quiet and effortless, no fuss in comparison, the seats have great support (I have now discovered I can drive in those seats for a long time before I feel discomfort) and the steering felt much more connected and direct to me. (drove and compared the 64 excite and Ora GT)
I wanted the essence level trim for the better headlights, folding mirrors, and 360 camera but ended up getting the AWD model in the end which shares the trim but with alcantara (offered a good deal on an undriven demo).I did test an Atto3 and was impressed by its features, I did not like the PWM/irritation from the screen (a deal breaker for me), and in comparison to both the Ora and the MG4, did not feel as responsive and fun to drive (personal opinion only).
How would the performance of this compare to my 2000 Corolla hatch?
At every red light this car will see your car in the rear mirror easily.
Look I like the car even though it looks…. Odd and I get why its getting a lot of up votes here but lets be honest, they dont sell well.
Ive Probably seen one on the road in years and yet the roads are littered with MGs
Ive Probably seen one on the road in years and yet the roads are littered with MGs
I see them a few times daily in Melbourne, especially the Havals. Likely established in Melbourne first and have more dealerships compared to Perth.
MG is a more established brand (even though now Chinese), so wouldn't surprise me why it's more common on the roads.
I don’t think anyone buying an MG now knows it used to be a British make.
We have one and we love it
How these aren't $29,990 Driveaway yet, is beyond me…
If you check the dealerships sometimes they have sales on. I've seen 2 dealers in the Sydney area offering the extended range for just under $31k in the last 6 months.
They surely would sell a lot more at that price point.
Question is at what cost. They'd probably be losing money on every car. Fine if your strategy is to buy market share and brand recognition. I reckon that's exactly what MG did when they priced their MG4 at $30,990. Now they are back in profit territory.
Long term, if you want a company to stick around and honour a long warranty, you'd hope they make some money off the cars they sell…
Their bread and butter is in servicing the cars they sell
I know beauty is in the eyes of the beholders, but gosh it's ugly..
48kwh battery. Having to pay extra for a motor protection plate seems odd. And $358.11 from a type 2 charging cable is about $150 too much.
Not sure that’s smarter, considering how cheap this is for a little runabout, with a 7 year warranty…