Mazda's plate clearance sale has savings of up to $4000 depending on the grade.
This makes the CX-5 Maxx ~$9000 cheaper than a base model RAV4 GX.
Mazda's plate clearance sale has savings of up to $4000 depending on the grade.
This makes the CX-5 Maxx ~$9000 cheaper than a base model RAV4 GX.
@Big L: The CAR is sh!t after 30k of mileage.
Peugeot 5008? Heaps of car for the money
Good price for what it is. As long as you are aware the design dates back to 2017 and a new design coming in 12 months. Engine, handling and physical look are still pretty good for its age though.
12 months in europe prob means 2 years in AU, we often get trickle down leftovers after EU & NA have plenty
Edit: it's a valid point though as it's such a popular SUV in Australia no doubt all dealerships have a lot of stock to move
I dont think EV is woth buying in current climate as the depreciation is so much that savings are negated.
I was comparing corolla and MG EV for leasing through salary sacrifice.
Savings are good for EV as you will be able to salary sacrifice 100%
But end of lease balloon payment is much higher than antcipated market value of the car.
On ther hand it is better value for Corolla.
It says hybrid/PHEV, not EV- quite different
Are Tiguan and Kodiaq both getting facelift in ‘25?
Don't know if VW will be around in 25 sacking 30k workers & closing 10 plants.
Don't know if VW will be around in 25 sacking 30k workers
VW employ nearly 700,000 people, meaning less than a 5% reduction. Over-reaction much?
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volksw…
VW shares have fallen 44% over the last five years whilst their competitors have had gains or much smaller losses.
VW shares have fallen 44% over the last five years
Shares go up, shares go down. Every rise is not to the moon and every dip is not bankruptcy. But feel free to short VW if you really believe it, free money awaits you. Why would anyone not want free money?
I bought a brand new Tiguan in 2018 and is religiously maintained by our dealer.
In early 2024, while driving, I got the dreaded "Gearbox in Emergency Mode. You can drive on." message.
I took it to our dealer, who arranged for a rental for our use, while sorting out the issue. It took our dealer six weeks to get our gearbox fixed. Because our Tiguan was still under dealer warranty, we did not have to pay the $7,100 to get the gearbox replaced.
Four days later, the message "Gearbox in Emergency Mode. You can drive on." returned. I drove the Tiguan back to the dealer and walked across the street to Mazda and placed a down payment for a CX5.
When the Tiguan was fixed 4 weeks later, I sold it back to the dealer.
Google "Gearbox in Emergency Mode." and you will see many VW owners (plated 2016 up to 2022) having this same issues.
Yep, exact same thing happened to a person I work with. They were about 1 month inside the warranty period. They're now terrified at what else may go wrong and the potential bill.
You’re still protected by ACL even outside of the warranty period.
@WoodYouLikeSomeCash: But who got time to contest these things man. Life goes on. Keep driving.
@WoodYouLikeSomeCash: And thats a nice easy process is it? Understandably car makers make you walk across glass to claim ACL and who the hell wants to deal with it. Any legal dispute is very stressful.
Same issue with my 2019 Tiguan with 53k my mechatronic failed, also got the Gearbox in Emergency Mode under warrinty 6 weeks to repair.
Over all not a bad car if you have the patience with little warrinty issues becasue my expericance with VW Australia customer support is pathetic keep away.
My father owns an cx5 2017 so far it's been problem free.
Same issue for a 2016 Golf, mechatronics failure and the dealer wanted $5K for an old swap in or 7k+ for a new mech unit. Bit of a joke tbh
@Smol Cat: This is the beauty of naming things fancy like mechanotronics. You can just charge 10k for it.
@Smol Cat: There are forums that mention that the DQ200 (some even say it's the DQ300) is installed in a lot of models (and not just VW). It is currently being used in Golf, Tiguan, Audi Q5 and a few others (if I remembered correctly). This transmission was first installed in vehicles manufactured in 2016 and will be continuously used until 2026 (if I'm not mistaken).
(Polo, the `van and Amarok use a different model.)
@sanmigueelbeer: I ended up repairing it at a transmissions shop. Rebuilt the mech unit for $3k and it seemed to do the job till I sold the car later on.
I will admit the Tiguan is an enjoyable vehicle to drive. I still prefer driving the 2018 Tiguan over our 2024 plated CX-5.
(If Tiguan didn't have this mechatronik issue, my next vehicle would still be a Tiguan.)
This is just a normal experience for a vw owner… Once you go euro… You'll go back to japanese for sure.
Or Korean… Japanese reliability but more interesting designs and less expensive.
@1st-Amendment: Disagree… Kia and Hyundai who use the same engines also have lots of issues with their cars… Japanese manufacturers are still king on reliability
@hippyhippy: It depends on the models, as opposed to brand stereotypes. Even Toyota is fallible.
@smartProverble: It does depend on the models. True that.
If you were just playing the stats game
worst buy would be land rover
best would be toyota
everything else inbetween.
Who buys an Euro car and whinges about expensive repairs? Parts are expensive for Euro. Haven't they been using expensive 95 fuel? Just put up with it.
It would appear that the CX5 transmission is also not reliable?
Lots of reports: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=cx5+transmission+issue+si…
Yes
Found a demo car from their dealership for 35880 .. should I go with it? Been looking for a car for some time and it’s going to be my first car ..
Ask them for the walk away price.
Should that be lower than this? The price he said is a drive away price
walk away is the price they give when you are walking away from the dealership and they run after you
Can’t go wrong with the petrol versions, see if you can get the 2.5L over the 2L if possible
Thats around $5000 more I believe
I test drive a 2L and felt underwhelming. I own a 2.5L now and day and night difference. I would strongly suggest to go for 2.5L. Believe me, it's a heavy car.
@flame143: I used to own a 2.5l CX5 and even that was pretty gutless. Very revvy for not much acceleration. A friend had an old V6 RAV4 and it shits all over the CX5 for torque, as you would expect.
@1st-Amendment: Mate those v6 rav4 were great all round.
@1st-Amendment: I agree. I meant, 2.5L is acceptable and wouldn't be much issue if you drive it like a normal family car but 2L is not going to be sufficient at all.
Odo ?
1000-2000km I believe not more ..
Demo is actually used
Ask them to see what the 'red book' value is - as that's what the car is worth when you tried to trade it in to any dealer
Don't be conned that Demo = near new. It's been registered, and driven so for my money it's a used car - regardless of how many km's, who's driven it etc
This isn't exactly true. We bought demo with 50km on the clock. Of course it was destined to be driven at some point but it hadn't yet. We got essentially a brand new car, it was delivered as new with a detail and a bow etc. Normal warranty. If it had 1000km I feel like our experience would have been exactly the same.
I wonder if the normal warranty started when you received the car, or even it is first registered by the dealer as demo.
@1cent2much: It is always from date of registration.
This is factory warranty.
May be the dealer can add their warranty to make up the lost period.
Some DEMO cars are driven by the staff for a period.
Except you don't know how the demo drivers have driven it.
@gadget: Whatever anyone could have done to a demo I've also done to it myself. Cars are pretty good at protecting themselves from stupidity these days anyway.
Whatever anyone could have done to a demo I've also done to it myself.
Yeah, as soon as you drive your new car around the block it's pretty much the same as a used car. Some people will pay $10k for this privilege, it's nuts. I've had brand new cars and demos and 1-2 year old cars. After one week they're all the same except with the latter two I have much more money left in my bank account.
@1st-Amendment: Friend bought a car, the dealer drove it across the road to fill with fuel, and an unsupervised learner crashed into it. Any car being sold as not "new" carries a risk something bad happened to it, regardless how low the KMs.
@BigBirdy: Yep and we discovered our "brand new" mazda 3 at the time in 2014 being repaired around the corner having a bumper resprayed before delivery. It's pretty rare to have a car come off the boat and get delivered to your front door and any expectation that this scenario always actually happens is possibly a little naive.
Edit: I think the point is that the reality is that a demo car should usually be treated as pretty much new in most examples. Otherwise as another user has commented you're paying a hefty premium just to be their "first" 😉
@tromboc: It depends on the car. Hyundai or Kia minibus, shouldn't matter about the demo. Mustang demo, forget it.
Cars being sold as new can still have been in an accident and it's all legal. This country sucks for consumer rights in automotive.
32k nothing more than that
I wish
If you are talking about the same model thats posted, I would grab a brand new for $2110 extra.
Agree. I think demo cars are a great way to get rid of some of that drive out of the lot depreciation, but it has to be a healthier drop than 2k to give away that first owner feeling and the abuse the car will take on the demo trail.
YES! It's a good price man, especially for first car. Mine was only $1800 and sold it for $1200 2 years later.
$37k finally no hub caps!
lol for $37k, who in the right mind would charge that and use steel + hubs
Wil you drive them simultaneously?
That‘s their RRP…and 2024 plates only go cheaper from now on.
Yeah and watch all these gullible people who don't do research upvote this. Look there's even some idiot downvoting you.
Price has been this for almost half a year.
Beat me to it..
2023s were $30,990+ORC new same time last year…
Can not recommend Mazda. Expensive servicing. Average tech. And too pricey. These should be early 30k if they want to move stock
Their genuine Mazda parts are a rip-off. Ask your mechanic for after market parts
Don't bother with dealers servicing
Remember do not get conned by that pretty chic trying to sign you up on paint protections and add on. It's everywhere
I know she is hot just don't do it, it will do you more harm than good. She is there for sales not interested in you blokes
They've sold a few…
What brand do you think is better in the way you mentioned?
To counter this I can recommend a CX5. Plenty of toys for the money, decent to drive for a family wagon, looks good and solid reliability.
Not sure about this price. Think I only paid about 8000 more for a GT-SP (second from top spec at the time) with a whole load of extra bits ‘worth’ another few K in 2021 brand new from City Mazda in Melbourne.
Also isn't this quite an old model now? Must be due a major refresh soon
If you ask me back in 2015 I would agree not now.
Used to work at a dealership that did Toyota and Mazda. Holy shit the pricing on Mazda parts were off the charts mental, I remember this one small plastic bit was like $400.
My friend has CX-5, fuel average around 8L/100KMs.
"a fuel economy range from 6.9L/100km to 8.2L/100km, depending on the model badge."
I pay $300-400 for service a year. The European suv is about 900-1000.
Well, Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid would be cheaper to run (4.6L/100km), faster (7.6S 0 to 100 km/h), cheaper to service ($250 per year) and comes with 7 year unlimited km warranty including battery (plus it has Toyota sense latest version which is on par with some of best driving assistance packages on the road).
It's a bit more expensive but if you plan to use a car trouble free for at least a decade, Toyota is where I'd put my money in.
Damn that might be the upgrade path from my last gen C-HR. It's been great mechanically. The new one is just a bit too much for me in looks and price, also made in Turkey instead of Japan. Corolla Cross is still Japan :)
@heef: CHR is nice looking car but too slow and too cramped inside. Corolla cross on the other side isn't as good looking but faster and just as spacious as a RAV4.
@npnp: You are right, yeah. Cloth seats is a bit disappointing, but seems like that's the new norm in the segment. Aside from that it is a lot better car.
Thoughts on the Honda ZRV? It costs about the same as a new CHR Koba and more modest in looks.
@heef: I love Honda CRV looks but boy isn't that slow. 11.2 S for 0 to 100 isn't acceptable in this day and age. Perhaps their hybrid offering is a bit faster I don't know.
@npnp: Was more thinking the ZRV. It's inbetween the CHR and RAV4 in size, I think?
It does 0-100 in 7.5s which is not too bad and a lot better than the CHR at 11s. Both hybrid.
When I test drove the Corolla I was told it needs 2 services a year. And the base model looked terrible, after some reasonable upgrades I was paying 6-7k more.
@Frozensage: You talking corolla cross? My corolla is 1 service a year at 250 bucks for the first 5 years
@Frozensage: I can confirm corolla cross only requires servicing 12 months 15,000 km (that's straight from my logbook). I'm pretty sure that's the same for corolla as well. I'm not sure what sort of BS your dealer is feeding you with!
That's because you've paid for the cheap service when you bought it..
$250 per year servicing on a Toyota hybrid?!
How many years and where please?
@Big L: Kalamunda Toyota WA
At least for 7 years (probably will service myself after that as warranty expires in 7 years).
Servicing a hybrid vehicle is nothing difficult, if anything it should be cheaper (as the intervals are higher and less engine wear and tear due to hybrid assistance).
When I used to do my own servicing for my old Prius, it would only cost me 60-70$ including full synthetic oil and premium filter. I've been doing that for at least 6 years (once a year) and hasn't cost me a cent more during that time..
The problem with Toyota hybrid I believe the battery is very expensive to maintain. In the long run might be better to go full petrol…
@neonlight: What maintenance does the battery require may I know? I have had Hybrid cars for last 12 years and didn't have to spend a cent on the hybrid battery. My first hybrid, 2006 Prius had 226,000 km when I sold it with original battery health still around 70% mark (zero maintenance upto that point). My second hybrid (another Prius) had 240,000 km when I sold it and still on original battery, health was around 80% mark (again zero maintenance upto that point). Both cars have been extremely reliable and with minimal maintenance (just filter and oil change every 15K which I did myself). I now have my third hybrid (Corolla Cross), bought brand new and has got unlimited km warranty upto 2030. The way I'm going at the moment, it looks like by the time warranty expires I would have as high as 200,000 km on the clock. So I'm very curious to know what maintenance you were talking about?
Do you have an alternative recommendation?
whose parts arent a rip off?
no pretty chicks at my dealer, old guys,
but seriously, who doesnt rip of on service and spare parts? yes the Mazda prices are insane, got quoted Mazda battery around $700
Fake manual or auto transmission?
Autos have been around for more than half a century, what are you talking about?
95%+ of new cars are auto.
Toyota barely has any models left that still have manual options. You living in the past mate
It's a shame though the traffic congestion no longer make manual viable.
I enjoyed my time when I was a teen with my Honda coupe on manual. Very enjoyable able to control exactly how I wanted
I got my license on manual not auto transmission and was difficult with 3 tries
I also had my driving skills learnt from a former F1 racer
Time machine took the wrong turn?
Someone’s AI bot got confused.
Thanks for the laugh.
It is a good car for a good price this will last you 2 decades if you look after it
Good deal but spending a little extra on a RAV4 seems like a much better deal. Especially long term in running costs and resale.
Folks are looking at late model rav4, maybe 22 or 23. Any advice for buying them?
Those models will have held up in value. Don't quote me but they might have less tech compared to those built prior to Covid due to chip shortages. Probably not noticeably.
Good cars but Mazda is so overrated.
@dlovep: I don't wish but also don't understand your sentence.