Discount 28% Was: $23.79
Shelly PM Mini Gen 3 | WiFi & Bluetooth Smart Power Meter 1 Ch 16A $19.35 — Black Friday deal expires 2 December.
-28% (Was: $26.91)
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Has anyone used this for roller shutters?
You'll need to purchase the dual channel model which is made specifically for blinds and roller shutters. Shelly Plus 2PM.
This is a smart meter ONLY, not a relay like this one: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/879515
So, you won't be able to turn stuff on/off with this module.
Thank yuo @MinuteRepeater! Canceling order for this one :/
Do imported shellys have Australian electrical certificate?
Shellys whether imported or purchased via local resellers here are identical.
The Australian certification still applies.
You can look them up on the erac.gov.au website.
Yeah but apparently that Regulatory Compliance Mark (RCM) is a must for imported devices. I remember that a few years ago people were arguing about the shellys that didn't go through that check which I happen to own a bunch of them.
@nightelves I am planning to use these for some lights (I used SHELLY 1 in the past, so will be trying Minis for the fist time).
Here is another deal for 16A relay which are just a couple of bucks more expencive: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/879521
That's a meter, not relay. You can't switch stuff on/off with that meter.
Do they offer these with two channels?
This model is only single channel
There is a 2 channel Shelly but it is a different model.
I assume these Shelley devices must be installed by an electrician?
no shelly got special permission from the Australian government to allow any dick with a screwdriver to install them /s
Lol I would have thought it’s common knowledge but guess not 😂
There are different requirements in different countries, so that seems like a reasonable question.
BTW, do you know if/how DIY indoor low voltage (24V) strip light (wiring power supply and controller) installation is allowed?
I could only find websites saying DIY low voltage outdoor garden lights are allowed, but nothing about indoor lights.
That's ELV so you are allowed to no problem as long as you connect to power using a regular wall outlet and transformer. If you are going to connect straight to the house wiring or work behind the walls then you would need a licensed electrician (because then you'd be modifying the mains power).
Yeah because 3 wires is hard and you need to be a certified genius. It's about legal obligations not knowledge
Electrical laws are written in blood. You do you.
https://www.erac.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/ERAC-Elec…
@Pussqunt: Interesting report, especially the part about the reduction in deaths per million people over the last 23 years:
"In Australia, the reduction is from 1.87 to 0.40 (0.06 per year) dmp, while for New Zealand the reduction is from 1.39 to 0.33 (0.05 per year)."
@Pussqunt: Thing is they don't specify the cause of the electrical death. The next pie shows 2 of those were non-workplace, 6 were workplace but what it doesn't say is were they doing their own electrical work, or just unfortunate to come into contact somehow.
@bamzero: I was writing a reply to this but the OzB page refreshed and deleted my comment. Long story short, you can look at the state-level reports for QLD (6 out of the 7 Australian fatalities). These are published quarterly under the moniker “Electrical Safety Performance Reports” and you can find a full list here: https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/resources/statistics/perform…
Queensland fatality causes:
Quite clearly the main electrical safety issue is works being conducted in Queensland without proper JSAs. Likely this is a factor at play in the two non-QLD fatalities, which we know are workplace fatalities. However, people can and do die conducting their own works. Why the Government is not taking a harm minimisation approach towards this issue eludes me. Could it be related to massive electrical union donations to Labor? Hmmm…. Not sure….
It's funny that their list of things DIYers do that are illegal pretty much reads as the list of things NZers are allowed to do in their own house that I linked above.
Yes, you're right - it would be nice if Aus laws were more smart home friendly like some other countries. That said, I am so cautious with my family and my biggest asset/liability that I would probably get an electrician to do all mains electrical work regardless of laws.
@Dinjay: Yeh not a bad attitude to have. Not saying everyone should do their own work, but pretty clear the laws are really just there to protect the industry, not the people.
The electrical deaths figures from the report above are actually a lot lower than I expected considering so many people DIY regardless.
Maybe electrician prices would be a bit more reasonable too if they weren't so protected, so people wouldn't be so quick to DIY anyway.
In Australia yes, in NZ no.
Some Shelly models can be used with low-voltage applications (like Garage Doors), you can install these DIY.
Shelly runs on wifi, which could be a downside for some people as its more difficult to setup to work with other smart devices, ie if you have an existing philips hue motion sensor that you want to pair up with a light connected to a smart relay, you are better off getting something that supports zigbee 3.0. Correct me if I am wrong.
Shelly have z wave ones now which is better again, but yes agree with your points. That being said, I've given up and just shove whatever I feel like in now. These Shelly's are good enough for setting up timers like on the hot water system (with a contactor of course).
It depends on the user. WiFi is better in some situations, Zigbee in others.
Shelly is having a Black Friday sale too: I think I wait for their sale to buy direct.
However, this is a very good price.