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Hiphopopotamus on 22/11/2024 - 17:37 ebay.com.au (110 clicks)
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32GB DDR5 (2x16G) Corsair 6000MT/s Vengeance CMK32GX5M2E6000C36 RAM

32GB DDR5 (2x16G) Corsair 6400MT/s Vengeance CMK32GX5M2B6400C36 RAM

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  teacherer on 22/11/2024 - 17:40

  +2

  In my minimal research, I've read that c30 6000 is best for the 9800x3d, if that means anything to anyone.

  I don't know how much real life difference that equates to though.

  Unfortunately that ram is not available on their store

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    Pricecheckcheap on 22/11/2024 - 18:27

    +2

    I recently watched a long stream from Buildzoid (overclocking Youtuber) and he said something like:

    • Overall - speeds:
      
      • 6000-6600 with a CL of 32 or lower; Or
      • 6800-7200 with a CL of 34 or lower; Or
      • 7200+ the CL doesn't matter because the clock is so high.
    • Buy Non-ECC / Unbuffered memory (as ECC only needed for Xeon/Thread-ripper).

    Regarding 2x16gb or 2x24gb:
    - If you buy 2x16gb (32gb total) - Hynix a-die is best.
    - If you buy 2x24gb (48gb total) - Hynix m-die is best.

    I only have examples for 2x16gb Hynix a-dies (examples pulled from specsheet found at au.pcpartspicker website):
    Speed CAS Voltage Timing
    6000 32-38-38-76 1.35v
    6000 30 30-36-36-76 1.35v
    6600 34-40-40-84 1.4v
    6800 34-44-44-84 1.4v
    7200 34-42-42-84 1.4v

    Easy way to find cheap ram that matches the spec you're looking for is to go to au.pcpartspicker, look up ram in the speed and cas latency you're looking for, rank them cheapest to most expensive, and then selecting the cheapest ram that matches the timings shown above (and for double certainty, looking up the ram SKU in google along with 'is this A-die' and reconfirming). Additionally, ensuring that the ram is on the motherboard's QVL list helps too.

    I'm not an expert, but hopefully this may help. Disregard if it doesn't.

    If you're still interested in more, I recommend Buildzoid's videos (his YT account is: 'Actually Hardcore Overclocking'). He has a handy dandy ram purchasing guide video and ram overclocking tutorials.

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      teacherer on 22/11/2024 - 18:29

      +1

      Awesome comment

      What does following this do irl though?
      Making sure you have the correct hynix die?

      Frames? Stability?

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        jk82 on 22/11/2024 - 18:54

        +1

        Probs 1% lows

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        Pricecheckcheap on 22/11/2024 - 18:56

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        Happy to help!

        Well following the guide above and getting Hynix a-die (e.g. for 2x16gb) will help in overclocking. So you can buy cheaper sticks, then push the performance higher (if you're so inclined) while having stability. While Micron die, for example, is prone to giving people headaches and lacks stability at limited OC levels.

        I don't want to push my rig into the stratosphere, but I like to have assurance that my mild OC is stable. And while technically it's not just the ram, but also the motherboard and the CPU's internal memory controller driving those timings, good Hynix die eliminates one fault point (assuming you didn't buy faulty ram, which does happen unfortunately).

        Note, I haven't purchased any DDR5 yet as I'm still researching, so please note that this is still a work in progress. Additionally, I'm likely getting 13th gen Intel, so I'm not super familiar with running ram with Ryzen in 1:1 mode, and all the quirks that entails (e.g. infinity fabric clock).

        However, regarding performance (generally speaking):

        Gaming:
        - It can help with gaming performance, specifically regarding loading textures in, managing assets and reducing input lag. While not huge it can have a noticeable impact depending on your CPU. Overall it reduces bottlenecks. If I had the chance of getting incredible ram or something like a 7800x3d, I'd take the 7800x3d in a heartbeat over the ram (good ram supplements already good systems).
        - Specific examples I believe would be like loading large textures and assets dynamically in Cyberpunk 2077 or like the Witcher 3.

        Productivity:
        - Faster boot times
        - Faster in video editing (smoother playback, faster applying effects, etc)
        - Improved multitasking (System handles data swapping better, reduces lag/freezes, and makes things feel snapper when switching between processes)
        - There's more I'm missing but my brain stopped working halfway while writing this - apologies.

        While there can be some debate as to how impactful this actually is, all I'll say is:
        - I have an XMP ram kit for my PC that does not work. It's DDR4 (so not really equal to high speed DDR5), but after moving from 3600Mhz DDR4 16gb to 2666Mhz 32gb, holy moly the system certainly FEELS slower. My VM environments take longer to spin up, boot times take longer, games feel slower, everything just feels like I'm covered in 5cm of mud.

        Overall:
        - If you have time on your side, find a good bit of kit that is on the QVL list for your mobo, has good timings and is relatively inexpensive (search for bargains on the regular). With that, you can probably pay the same if not less than a worse kit, and if your CPU/mobo is up to scratch you can enable XMP/EXPO and cruise along until you upgrade down the road.