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Starlink Mini Satellite Internet Kit $599 (+ $80/Month 50GB Roam, $195/Month Unlimited Roam) + Del ($0 C&C/ In-Store) @ JB Hi-Fi

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JB HiFi have advertised the Starlink Mini kit for $599 instead of $799. First discount of the mini I have seen, it is still full price on the Starlink site.

Requires $80pm for 50gb roaming subscription, cancel anytime as needed. For more roam data the $195pm is unlimited.

Starlink Mini is designed for connectivity on the go and can easily fit in a backpack. Starlink Mini is a portable, all-in-one compact kit with a built-in Wi-Fi router, lower power consumption, a DC power input, and max speeds over 100 Mbps.

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  • +12

    Still feels like too much $$ to me.

    • +63

      For a device the size of an iPad to connect to a global network of low latency, high speed satellites with a built in wifi router ANYWHERE in the world?

      • +3

        Yes. Still too much. I know it's smaller than the Gen 3 but it's also more of a compromise.

        • +1

          correct

          Starlink Mini Satellite Internet Kit $299 (+ $80/Month 50GB Roam, $195/Month Unlimited Roam) + $30 Delivery @ Starlink

          Anyone that hasn't used theirs should still be within their 30 day return policy

      • +1

        not ANYWHERE in the world unfortunately

        • +8

          Not in these areas speciffically:
          Starlink is not available in the following countries:

          Russia: SpaceX has never sold or marketed Starlink in Russia
          China: Starlink is not available in China
          India: Starlink has not been approved in India
          Most of Africa: Starlink has not been approved in most of Africa
          
          • -1

            @marcozmitch: Africa.. you know the place that could most benefit. Not approved!

            • +6

              @djsweet: iirc Africa wants some form of joint ownership.

            • +8

              @djsweet: It works there, it's just that the shitty governments won't approve it for sale unless they get an ownership share

              • -1

                @Wolfenstein98k: Shitty governments don't want foreign companies extracting wealth from their citizens?

              • +3

                @Wolfenstein98k: While I support the efforts of starlink, critical infrastructure really shouldn't be entirely owned by a single corporation, which it will be if you look at the rate they are sending up new satellites.

                Since it isn't possible to think more than 3-4 years ahead in the neoliberal west we are of course told it is the shitty governments that won't approve it

                • +3

                  @greatlamp: It's only owned by a single corporation because that single corporation built the entire thing.

                  It can be owned by a hundred corporations, if they do it!

                  Support building instead of redistributing.

                  • +3

                    @Wolfenstein98k:

                    It can be owned by a hundred corporations, if they do it!

                    Competition is the ideal solution, however this industry has all the hallmarks of a natural monopoly.

                    What competitor could hope to match Starlink, sending up a network of satellites is incredibly expensive if you down own an associated rocket company.

                    So the options for governments are:

                    • pretend it isn't an issue and do nothing

                    • purchase a controlling stake in the underlying infrastructure. The operation can be sold by contract via tender - like the rail network in Victoria or operated by the government- like the rail network in NSW.

                    • encourage competition by using public money to subsidise new entrants via tax concessions, cheap loans and grants.

                    • talk about how much you believe in free market principles andsmall government, announcing to the public that the government is incompetent in every instance that they invest in, and/or anything that resembles government ownership is some flavour of communism (which is of course, bad). Then do nothing while the monopoly strangles the market. After your term in government is over you will be offered a board level position in the monopoly company.

                    From the language you use about 'redistribution' I suspect you are leaning towards the last option

                    • @greatlamp: I mean, he didn't just inherit the rocket company.

                      • +1

                        @Wolfenstein98k: So ignore the problem then?

                        • @greatlamp: No, if you want more things built, support building them.

                          People like Musk are one in a billion. You can't rely on there being lots of them.

                          • +3

                            @Wolfenstein98k: I am glad you agree how difficult and impressive it is to privately create something like Starlink. So it is clear to both of us why it is a natural monopoly.

                            You don't seem to have an opinion about how governments should address monopolies in the market, which is the topic we are discussing. I will leave you to think about it.

                            • @greatlamp: I have - support building. That includes building companies which compete with existing companies.

                              You can call things monopoly or monopsony or whatever you want, but at the end of the day, you have three options:

                              1) do nothing, hope that there are more people like Musk.
                              2) support building, so more people have more chances at competing with his companies.
                              3) support redistributing, which will share what he has built but basically guarantee you get less of that sort of innovation in the future.

                              • +1

                                @Wolfenstein98k: Support building, you mean give away taxpayer dollars to support competition?

                                Or do you mean it in some non specific way that has no costs?

                                • @greatlamp: Everything has costs - including inaction.

                                  Less regulation, or at least leaner and updated regulation. That's the big one.

                                  • +2

                                    @Wolfenstein98k: less regulation for a natural monopoly?

                                    What I'm drawing out from you is that you haven't got an understanding of what your views actually mean. Most likely because they aren't your views, you are parroting feel good platitudes that make you feel intelligent. You have been played.

                                    We both agree starlink is a natural monopoly. Unlike the supplier of a commodity, the supplier of a utility like starlink, or a train system, has very high fixed costs AND ongoing maintenance costs. If a second player was to consider entry into the market, they would have to duplicate all the fixed costs and the ongoing costs, but they could only ever hope for half the customers.

                                    In the marketplace of a natural monopoly, competition is inefficient. With two companies supplying global satellite internet, with twice the costs, the lowest possibe price customer pays will always be higher than what is possible with only one company providing all services.

                                    If the government was to provide concessions in such an industry, it would be ineffective, either they waste public money - your money - on a less efficient system with two suppliers, or there is still only one supplier but now they get government handouts. This is obviously what Elon Musk would prefer, and is clearly why you think its a good idea - against your own interests.

                                    The only problem with a single supplier is that they have the ability to price gouge customers rather than passing on lower costs.

                                    In exchange for allowing a monopoly, government co-ownership would protect consumers from being ripped off. At no point does this involve 'redistribution' or stealing anything from Starlink, it would be purchased.

                                    There is only one correct answer to this question. The shitty Afican governments that are pushing for co-ownership (I'm sure there is some subtle racism in there) are the ones following sound economic principles.

                                    I'm sure your next response will be to repeat your programming, dig your heels in and pretend you know what you are talking about, rather than simply admit you were wrong on this one and move on. Or you will call me leftist, or a facist, or some other word you think is an insult.

                • +2

                  @greatlamp: before NBN those unfortunate to be under HFC had to pay telstra monopolistic prices meant as a family we had 2GB data (throttled to 64kbps) provided by Virgin Mobile broadband with their router that i kept arousing every time i turned it on

                  • +2

                    @mantra: That's exactly why I'm against another monopoly internet provider forming. But people are short sighted and think corporations have morals. They are legally required to put shareholder interests as their priority.

            • +7

              @djsweet: Approved for use in 13 African countries, noting it actually works in more but frequent use they will disconnect you.
              The approval outstanding needs to be issued from the countries themselves, not Starlink.

              Nigeria - Launched in January 2023
              Rwanda - Launched in February 2023
              Mozambique - Launched in June 2023
              Kenya - Launched in July 2023
              Malawi - Launched in July 2023
              Benin - Launched in November 2023
              Zambia - Launched in November 2023
              Eswatini - Launched in December 2023
              Sierra Leone - Launched in June 2024
              South Sudan - Launched in July 2024
              Madagascar - Launched in July 2024
              Botswana - Launched in August 2023
              Ghana - Launched in August 2024

            • +1

              @djsweet: Apart from certain places like nigeria and ghana.

              We should all be thankful its harder for residents there to signup and use the service.

          • +4

            @marcozmitch: It works in most (probably all) of Africa if you travel through it, you just can't buy it in most of the countries.

          • @marcozmitch: That's more than 50% of the world's population.

      • +3

        When i first heard of it, I thought this was ground breaking and should be priced much higher. im glad its gotten much cheaper and has the potential to drop in price further

      • -2

        ANYWHERE in the world

        half of anywhere in the world.

        https://www.starlink.com/au/map

        • +7

          Just because you can't subscribe in a country does not mean it does not work in that country. eg. Many people in Africa subscribe in Botswana and then use roaming to use it in other African countries instead…

          • -2

            @rashn: Until Starlink blocks them out, like they have done already. Plenty of articles on Google.

            • +1

              @geekcohen: I wouldn't say that's relevant to the argument that you can use it almost anywhere; you just can't live almost anywhere.

      • yes

      • +5

        Yeah, OzB is a tough crowd!

        Just think about where this technology is in 2024 compared with even 2 years ago, It's nuts. This would have been full mil-spec under 10 years ago and would have had a mental cost.

      • -1

        Nice try Elon

      • Not the size of an ipad because it needs an external battery. Yes it fits a backpack, but it's heavy and will not run long without a substantial heavier battery so is not "all in one". Just so people are aware. Clearly the uptake has not been great or the price would not have dropped so much so soon.

    • +2

      Well is there a alternative?

      • +3

        The magnificent and amazing nbn skymess skymesh

        • +1

          skymuster cannot roam/portable

          having fixed wireless here cannot use skymuster as failover/load balance/backup, only one nbn connection per property

        • Not an alternative for the mini. No roaming.

    • +11

      Watch a video about how these work and you may come to appreciate how affordable it actually is.

      • +4

        I know all about it. I have a Gen 3 setup for our motorhome and think it's the perfect solution, for our requirements. The Mini may well be the best option for some but the gen 3 will give more for less for the vast majority of people.

        • +3

          Then you should understand better than anyone that the niche and miniaturised version of the device will likely command a premium.

          Thanks for the neg :)

          • +1

            @loksmack: I didn't neg you. Your comment is valid and I do get that it should command a small premium but I think $599 should be the RRP.

            • +4

              @Orrelljet: The neg comment wasn't meant to be at you, just in general to whoever it was.

              I'd like to see the subscription price lowered. Eating a one-time expense is okay, but $139 ongoing is a bit much compared to NBN plans. Alas it's either that or Skymuster for me, so the choice is clear.

              • +4

                @loksmack: $195 for Roam! That needs to come down as I don't see how the service being offered differs from a residential plan.

                • +1

                  @Orrelljet: There are few differences roam vs residential. Residential you cant pause, so its always $134. Also residential only works at one address. Roam, you can pay for month (or part of) here and there, also can take it anywhere in Aus. Furthermore, for $195 the roam works in motion, so you can have it on while driving so wife and kids can watch netflix and not bother you asking "are we there yet"

                  • @LukeOz83: There are differences, I know, and you can technically use the residential service while "roaming" by changing your address each time but I'm old and would forget. The pause feature with Roam is awesome though, granted.

                  • @LukeOz83:

                    Residential you cant pause, so its always $134.

                    Look into Launtel, you pay by the day and can pause any time you like.

                    Edit: Ah, it occurs to me that you may be comparing different Starlink plans. My bad.

                • @Orrelljet: Can you roam with a residential plan?

                  • @NoApostrophePlurals: If you change your address when you get to where you're going, yes. If you're moving every day it would be too much hassle but I know there are people that do it to save $$. BUT, you can't pause a residential plan so you'd need to swap back to Roam to pause. We use ours on a Roam plan and it's been paused since early October. We'll likely unpause sometime next year.

              • @loksmack: But is really $139 too much? Nbn offers 250/25, which is about where SL sits, for $100+. The difference in these two though is that SL is not designed for populated areas where NBN is available. It will work essentially anywhere* on the continent. So for people in remote areas, $139 for very fast, stable connection is actually a miracle.

                I understand that you dont have an option of nbn, but then compare to skymuster those few extra $ arent that bad, are they?

                • @LukeOz83: I agree that SL is a saviour when compared to Skymuster.

                  But it's still around a 40% premium over 250/25 NBN plans, with no option (aside from the Telstra reselling) to choose something slower for cheaper.

                  Definitely not arguing that the tech isn't incredible, it's just a bummer that NBN doesn't provide a comparably affordable option with decent performance (aka not Skymuster) for those of us delegated to Satellite. Before you say it, not everyone who is satellite lives in the middle of nowhere - I'm under an hour out of Melbourne and 5 mins to town with FTTP. Some others are even less 'regional' yet still have to put up with satellite.

              • @loksmack: $80 month for 50gb roaming

                Ideal for grey nomads

            • +2

              @Orrelljet:

              but I think $599 should be the RRP

              Why not $1? I mean if we're making things up, may as well go big.

    • -7

      Yeah just get a prepaid vodafone 4g sim card instead and put it in your 4g pocket wifi device you poor bastard.

    • +1

      The mini was supposed to be half the price of the full sized dish when it first came out but due to its popularity Starlink is charging a premium for it. Basic laws of supply and demand.

    • +2

      Not every deal is for everyone. But for Campers\Travelers\Marine people or anyone requiring good backup internet or gets second rate NBN line NBN Wireless, NBN Satellite and even NBN FTTN (old copper or just too far from the green box) then this pricing is quite attractive. Actually will go 1 step further and say there really isn't any alternative.

      • +2

        Should add that I was recently travelling through NT. Places we stayed had the NBN, and NBN was effectively useless couldn't even get email.
        Most of the time didn't have 4g cell service on the NATIONAL highway.
        Almost all the campers had Starlink and they were super happy and more than willing to share.

        • +1

          Yes, I've just come back from the savannah way trip without starlink.

          First thing I'm doing. Cancel NBN and put in starlink. 50gb is enough for us and the monthly cost is not much more than the NBN. The initial cost is more than recouped by not paying for internet we don't use while we're away.

          Fun story. Lots of starlink owners set SSID to things like "will share for beer" and "1gb per bottle".

  • Can you take this while overseas travelling? Aka roaming outside Oz?

    • +3

      You can use it wherever its enabled. Note a large portion of the world isn't enabled for various reasons and you need to check https://satellitemap.space/

      • If that's the case, has anyone with rellies or friends in another country tried signing up where it's cheaper? For example the RV/mobile plan costs about $120 AUD in Indonesia.

        I'm sure there would be even cheaper markets. I wonder if they'd be onto you pretty quickly or not…

        • +3

          from the FAQ:

          If you use Starlink Roam in a country different from your shipping address for over two months, Starlink may require you to update your registered address to your new location. If your new location is not in an authorized territory (marked "Available" or "Waitlist" on the Starlink map), your service may be immediately suspended. See Terms of Service for more information.

        • +1

          I’ve read Starlink charges an extra fee if you register device in different region from where it was sold. Starlink device much cheaper in other regions.

          Not sure if choosing a plan from a different region is similar or if they would block you somehow.

          Edit: looks like xphonerz answered above

      • Wow I didn't realise there were so many satellites. Crazy stuff.

    • +1

      Yes, but you need a Global Roaming plan which is a lot more expensive.

      • Not any more. That changed with the price increases a couple of months ago. You can now use it for 2 months out of country every year.

  • If only can use this with residential subs.

    • +2

      It is slower than the larger units so unless you were hiking or something like that you would be better with the larger unit if you wanted the most bandwidth.

      • -1

        Because I torrent while I am hiking in the mountain ranges?

        • +4

          Wow small thinker huh. No, content creators sending large digital files online for one of many examples.

          • +7

            @Spendmore: Tradies be like wow another thing to add to my 150k tax write off LandCruiser

    • -1

      Why? You cannot really have the unit on the roof and then WiFi inside, it won't work very well.

      • +3

        Thats how they are used, mounted on the roof of a caravan or car and can be used while in motion.

        • +5

          Caravan and Car, yes. But this guy is talking about a Residential Subscription for the house. I have mine mounted to the roof of my ute and it works very well. Got a Mini PC connected to it and it runs a speed test every 5 mins, then uploads to the site.

          • +1

            @geekcohen: The large units run a cable to a modem for wifi, with a mini you would run a lan cable to a router.

            • @Spendmore: Yes, I am well aware of that.

              But why not just get a Gen 3 for a house? Cheaper and offers full speed unlike a mini that is slower in speed and more expensive plus then additional cost for another router/access point? Doesn't make sense to me

              • +1

                @geekcohen: I wasnt arguing the point between models i was stating that either model would work in a residential setting in response to "you can't have it on the roof it won't work properly ". Personally i think the mini is a niche application where you are physically carrying the unit or have little storage capability like a motorbike. Otherwise the gen 3 wins hands down.

                • @Spendmore: 100% agree.

                  you can't have it on the roof it won't work properly

                  I was more referring to WiFi Coverage.

                • @Spendmore: Can't ignore power requirements for mobile use, whether van or back packing.

                  We're in the van about 6 months of the year, mostly offsite. The additional power draw of the gen 3 24/7 could be an issue for us, and we have 600Ah batteries and 800w on the roof.

                  • @jebdra: Im guessing AGM so 300 useable ah per day in addition to solar supplement. I worked out the numbers and I think at the most it was something like 50ah per day and you wouldnt use it 24/7.

      • I know people who have stupidly mounted this inside their cars pointing through the glass roof and yes it works.

        • Yes, a lot on Reddit in the USA through sun roofs.

    • +19

      How about we don't make every bargain discussion about US politics. I vote for keeping ozbargain about bargains and leaving the politics at the door.

        • By "you guys", you mean?

          • -1

            @Shoocat: Well, the people who always jump on every tesla post with their comments "wOuLd nEvA bUy a TeSlA cUz iTs oWneD bY a NaZi!!!!"… If that's you or not, I don't know, but there are plenty on every tesla deal thread simping for BYDs etc.

            You and I both know as soon as there is a viable starlink competitor the starlink posts will be swamped with that same rubbish… And I get the feeling you won't be calling them out on it.

      • -4

        I vote for

        So the politics is ok when you do it? Pick a lane…

        • -6

          Exactly.

        • +2

          I've picked my lane and my lane here is bargains.

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