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Zzz Atelier Chiropractic Black Label Mattress: $169.15 S, $271.15 DB, $296.65 Q, $339.15 K + Delivery @ Zzz Atelier on eBay

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Zzz Atelier Chiropractic Black Label Mattress: $169.15 S, $271.15 DB, $296.65 Q, $339.15 K + Delivery @ Zzz Atelier on eBay
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wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 11:16 ebay.com.au (2377 clicks)
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Zzz Atelier used to be all the rage here some years ago. Still any good?

Warranty

  • 15-Year manufacturer limited warranty. *Subject to manufacturer warranty terms and conditions available on Zzz Atelier website.

Quilt

  • Turkish organic cotton knitted fabric. *Fine yarn, softer and more lustrous than regular cotton.
  • More porous then regular cotton, superior moisture absorbency.
  • Breathable Airmesh side fabric
  • OEKO-TEX Standard 100 certified. Tested free of harmful substance.
  • Hypo-allergenic materials.
  • 99% dust mite resistant.

Upholstery

  • 100% natural latex.
  • Soft conforming foam.
  • High density foam.

Innerspring

  • Innovative ZzzCoil pocket spring system. Triple tempered alloy coil, better elasticity then many of its counterparts, anti-rust, anti-corrosion and extremely durable.
  • Independent pocket spring which follows the contour of your body, maintaining spine in its natural posture, providing the deep down correct support.
  • Motion isolation minimising partner disturbance.
  • No flip technology, designed to eliminate the need to flip your mattress.
  • Chiropractic 7 zone system. Zzz Atelier's Chiropractic range mattresses are chiropractor endorsed.

Edge Support

  • Zzz Atelier EdgePlus System. To overcome traditional edge weakness of rolled mattresses, a zone of stronger spring is built to surround the mattress to allow full use of total mattress surface and for sleepers to lie up to the edge of mattress without roll-off.

Firmness

  • Rating: 6.5 out of 10
  • Medium-firm design (firmer coils with softer upholstery).

Mattress Height

  • 34cm.
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Comments

  • easternculture on 10/11/2024 - 11:18
    +4

    This title makes me sleepy … zzzzzzzzz

  • brocky2006 on 10/11/2024 - 11:20
    +1

    Does it give free neck cracking?

  • May4th on 10/11/2024 - 11:35
    +1

    how does this compare to all the mattress in a box ones like emma/koala/ecosa etc?

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 10/11/2024 - 12:10
      +4

      This IS a mattress in a box.

    • Warehouse on 10/11/2024 - 12:38
      +5

      These have been selling way before koala etc - fantastic mattresses from my experience. Have bought multiple over the years and recently furnished a new house with them too. Very comfortable.

      • OMGJL on 10/11/2024 - 15:36
        +2

        did you buy multiple for other reasons or they just won't last?

        • serpserpserp on 10/11/2024 - 16:32
          -2

          He just wanted to contribute equitably to landfill like all good OZBers

  • Phlume on 10/11/2024 - 11:40
    +1

    Anyone have one and can speak about the quality? Debating between this or an IKEA/Koala mattress.

    • belongsinforums on 10/11/2024 - 11:43
      +21

      Firmer than koala. Better side support than koala. Cheaper than koala. Hotter than koala

    • OldSchoolHarry on 10/11/2024 - 11:47
      +5

      I have been using these for last 4 years and can recommend them for their medium firmness and overall quality.

      • Flintz on 10/11/2024 - 17:36
        +3

        I guess firmness must be subjective as I find koala mattress too firm already and another poster said this is even more firm

      • Lukian on 10/11/2024 - 15:30
        +5

        Elaborate - did it sag? What slats was it used on? Was was the weight range of usage?

    • clartan2015 on 10/11/2024 - 12:13
      +4

      we had ikea and it sagged quicker than this zzz. i bought another zzz to replaced that ikea

    • NedStark102 on 10/11/2024 - 12:29
      +11

      Mine started sagging within 12-18 months, have probably had it for five years. Given how much I paid i’m okay with that, but definitely due for a replacement mattress - not sure if I’ll buy another one of these.

      • clartan2015 on 10/11/2024 - 12:42
        +1

        for our masters bedroom, we bought sealy posturepedic. what i noticed is thats firmer on the sides compared to zzz. but its more than double the price of zzz lol

      • freefall101 on 10/11/2024 - 13:04
        +1

        I'm in the same boat, had it 4-5 years, definitely starting to notice a sag in it. But then I weigh over 100kg and it's sitting on an old as anything boxspring, so it's not that surprising. The boxspring voids the warranty too (even though it hasn't sagged enough to meet the warranty yet, it's still not doing my back a whole lot of good).

        My biggest problem is figuring out what to buy otherwise. A new frame is probably more important.

        • Lukian on 10/11/2024 - 15:33
          +3

          Upgrade your base and every mattress will be amazingly better.

          I made my own correctly spaced slats out of bunnings MGP10 for ~$50, a staple gun and some velcro tape.

          Each slat can hold a person's weight, try doing that with ikea slats or cheap spring bases..

        • serpserpserp on 10/11/2024 - 16:34
          -4

          But then I weigh over 100kg

          Crikey, wishing you a speedy recovery.

      • clubhonda on 10/11/2024 - 16:06
        +2

        I've had one which lasted 6 years without sagging one bit. I weigh about 60+kg. Are you by any chance quite a bit heavier?

        • NedStark102 on 10/11/2024 - 17:12

          Over that period I have been anywhere from 72-80kg, so not a weight that should have much impact on mattress sagging.

          • clubhonda on 10/11/2024 - 20:10

            @NedStark102: Oh ok, maybe questionable quality then since weight isn't the issue. I've never had issues with mine but looks like it's not consistent for everyone.

            • NedStark102 on 11/11/2024 - 08:22

              @clubhonda: Yeah definitely seems to be inconsistent, but at this pricepoint I went in with that expectation. It seems even with the pricier mattresses it can be a bit of a gamble, so it's hard to know where to go if you're happy to spend a little more.

          • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 20:34

            @NedStark102: I weighed 72kg when I had one from IKEA, and definitely sagged into a valley of sorrows.

    • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 12:38
      +1

      I had an IKEA from 2017 to 2020. The firmest one available. It sagged. It sucked. It cooked in the summer.

      • TEER3X on 10/11/2024 - 21:52
        +1

        We still talking about beds here bro or…?

    • theguyrules on 10/11/2024 - 14:44
      +1

      Koala was meh. We ended up getting an Ikea pocket spring mattress with a topper. Firm mattress, soft topper, good middle ground.

    • desync on 11/11/2024 - 09:30
      +1

      most of the reviews for these mattresses and the ones you mentioned are fake

      buyer beware

      and none are australian

      if you care about quality, warranty, your back and not buying a mattress every year or 2 then buy a basic sealy imho

  • Jacko1235 on 10/11/2024 - 11:42
    +1

    Had one for 5 years and no complaints. You can tell it's not the same quality as an expensive big brand though. If you're an easy sleeper and don't care about mattresses then it's worth it or also a great spare room mattress.

  • Jadeja on 10/11/2024 - 11:43
    +3

    I am using their products since last 7 years. Pretty happy with the quality and firmness that they offer. No complaints so far.

  • Tuffstuff80 on 10/11/2024 - 11:50
    +5

    Extra firm mattress are rock hard and very good for the back lol. If you put a latex mattress topper then bobs ya uncle and the thick 34cm mattresses are extremely comfortable as I use it for my 7 year old son. For kids they'd last forever for an adult the 34cm will probably last a few years but the extra firm would last a lifetime.

    • Kaise on 10/11/2024 - 11:59
      +1

      Any links for the extra firm? Link seems to head directly to medium firm

      • Jadeja on 10/11/2024 - 12:10
        +2

        King size

      • MasterScythe on 10/11/2024 - 17:03
        +3

        I have the extra firm.
        Had it for 3 years now, still as new.

        Be warned it is extra firm.
        I can stand on it, on one foot, and at about 100kg, not sink in at all.

    • spy on 10/11/2024 - 12:52
      +2

      These sag for me in 2-3 years.

      • Herbs on 10/11/2024 - 14:55
        +3

        Same, and it was far too hot.

  • BriefNexus on 10/11/2024 - 11:57
    +10

    I'm only 73kgs, had 2 of these and both sag horribly, a Queen and a King Single.

    • lukelegend on 10/11/2024 - 12:20
      +3

      Same, ours sagged also, was a nightmare for warranty claim, in the end i gave up and just brought another brand and its been great.

      • BriefNexus on 10/11/2024 - 12:23
        +1

        What did you got with? I'm looking at getting a sealy posturepedic atm.

        • lukelegend on 28/11/2024 - 13:54

          went with sleep republic

      • Pugdog1 on 10/11/2024 - 14:33
        +1

        Also interested in what you went with after

      • edfoo on 10/11/2024 - 14:38
        +1

        Sounds like the quality control of these Aterlier mattresses is inconsistent. Some found theirs good and long lasting, others sagged so quickly.

        • BriefNexus on 10/11/2024 - 14:53
          +1

          The older model was definitely better quality, but it still sags. Just took a while longer to start.

          • Lukian on 10/11/2024 - 15:36
            +1

            @BriefNexus: Correct. The older model had a bit more weight to it - which suggests the springs were stronger/better quality.

        • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 16:40

          Two factors ahead of QC:

          1. Weight of the user
          2. Frequency of rotation (if any)
          • desync on 11/11/2024 - 09:34

            @wisdomtooth: no, they are just cheap mattresses with poor quality materials

            that combined with heat sensitive padding which soften after a few hours of sleeping due to body heat and lose integrity

            these cheap mattresses are great, for 6 months, then it's usually downhill form there

            low tech mattresses of the past would last decades without issue, these things are built for landfill imho

        • Scythic on 14/11/2024 - 15:42

          Strange. Me and my sibling bought 6 of Aterlier mattresses in different sizes to furnish our homes. The oldest one is over 5 years old. None is sagged yet. Lucky dip?

  • xyron on 10/11/2024 - 12:08
    +1

    We've had a King version of one of these for a couple of years now and I quite like it, although my partner complains that it sags in the middle (we are using the ZZZ Atelier ensemble base too - have heard horror stories of ZZZ Atelier being very difficult with warranty for sagging if you aren't using their base).

    Not sure if I can be bothered going around the roundabout with them trying to claim their "15 year" warranty on ours…but for the price, it's still pretty much impossible to beat.

    • spy on 10/11/2024 - 12:55
      +1

      Their warranty is BS. BTW I got Scandi bedframes from them too. Flimsly as . One was damaged out of the box and the other is wobbly. POS.

      • Notorious on 15/11/2024 - 18:33

        Similar experience here.

  • ashftc on 10/11/2024 - 12:21
    +3

    Have been using them for 6+ years now. They have been great so far and super affordable.

  • MDSUXKS on 10/11/2024 - 12:22
    +1

    I had the old version. And now sleeping on the new on for the past 5 yeas. The folders version was way better quality and materials. Pro tip don't sit on the edges they sag. Beside of that no complaint beside the price that raise quite substantially but they are no Tesla's right that get better and cheaper haha.

  • EyyBanane on 10/11/2024 - 12:27
    +10

    These sag after a year or so. Bought two based on OzB user recommendations but not worth it IMO.

    • Saku-kurata on 11/11/2024 - 17:20
      +1

      can confirm this is true after 2 years and they made it so difficult to claim warranty. big L

  • figarow on 10/11/2024 - 12:43

    This mattress is priceless

    • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 12:46
      +1

      Haha

      NTS, varies by size.

  • Yakkus on 10/11/2024 - 12:44

    Chiropractic? So a ghost appeared to the manufacturer with the blueprint ?

  • battler on 10/11/2024 - 12:56
    +5

    Cheaper on WW Marketplace with recent 35% cashback. Picked up a King for 290.
    Agree with comments they eventually sag - most mattresses do - but at this price point just get a new one every 4 years.

    • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 13:27
      +1

      This one?

      Expired.

      • battler on 10/11/2024 - 15:20
        +1

        There's been about 5 similar deals in past couple of months. Won't need to wait long for another.

        • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 22:11

          @dairy-coffee posted this 28% SB CB deal 1.5h ago.

          The prices at WW seem to be 20% dearer than at the eBay store, but include free shipping. With the 28% cashback (and 10% off from WW Mobile, etc?) seems like it's indeed the cheapest option.

  • Daniel Plainview on 10/11/2024 - 12:58
    +1

    As most know you spend 1/3 of your life on your mattress…..so I'm all for sving a buck but dunno if penny pinching is a great idea - and I have one of these in our spare room, pretty ordinary mattress.

    Try Karl @ Ausbeds, he's a member here and a very nice guy - great beds at very fair prices.

    • Xizor on 10/11/2024 - 13:22
      +2

      I have an Ausbeds, top of the line, since late 2022. Not bad, but within a month we had noticeable body impressions i believe from the latex layer on top (could be wrong). I get body aches from time to time side sleeping on it too. Never had either happen with a bed so quickly. Customer support whilst seemingly willing came off as obsessed with it being over the phone rather than in writing, and referring to wanting it firmer when raising issue of body impressions. Two very different things imo. Failure on my part i didnt follow through, life crap distractions, and so have just put up with it since.

      • johnnytran on 11/11/2024 - 08:07
        +1

        Doesn’t body aches from side sleeping = it’s too firm?

        I’ve had a medium firm sleeping duck (one of the more expensive mattress in a box) for about 7 years now. Side sleeper, wake up with shoulder pains, had to buy a mattress topper to make it bearable.

        It’s great for back sleepers though.

        • Xizor on 11/11/2024 - 08:32

          Yeah normally i would agree, but it just didnt feel like that was the case. It was more about the hip and upper leg. I think we have it at level 8 in their system. Anything less honestly felt not firm enough compared to our prior bed. That specific issue is less regular these days thankfully. The visible body impressions within a fortnight i found very dissappointing.

          • Karl from ausbeds on 11/11/2024 - 22:51
            +1

            @Xizor: "The visible body impressions within a fortnight I found very disappointing."

            If I add a piece of foam to the bottom of the mattress, the cosmetic effect you are referring to will disappear. There's no reason to be disappointed; we can hone the mattress to your preferences.

            "It was more about the hip and upper leg." The upper layers are probably too firm for your personal preferences. We can adjust these to be softer, which will solve this issue.

            I also just wanted to add, one thing we see a lot, and I'm not saying it's happening here, is that people will have flexible slats in their bed base. This quite often can give the appearance of sagging. But what is happening is the mattress is conforming to the sagging slats underneath. Many mattresses go down this way. Loads of these flexi-slat bases are out there as flexi slats are much cheaper than the superior pine slats.

      • Karl from ausbeds on 11/11/2024 - 22:47
        +1

        Hi Xixor, Did you talk to me about it? I own ausbeds and I aim to never let anyone down. I aim always to make sure my customers are satisfied. I'm not sure what happened here, but it says you didn't follow through, really difficult to solve these issues if you don't follow through.

        "Customer support whilst seemingly willing came off as obsessed with it being over the phone rather than in writing"

        This is correct, we just talk to people so we can solve the problem quickly. So often customers diagnose the mattress issue. I understand these mattresses at such an extremely deep level that I can usually hone in on the issue after a quick chat. Writing an email telling me what is wrong and how to fix it is not really going to yield very good results and the reason is simple. As soon as something goes wrong with a mattress, the customer immediately assumes the latex is to blame.

        In exactly zero cases we have found this to be true. If I listened to customers about this,

        1. we would to end up throwing this wonderful material in the trash for no reason.

        2. we would be wasting the customers and our time as this is never whats wrong with the mattress.

        The reason for voice communication is to diagnose the problem. It would not be possible back and forth over email. I just want to get to the heart of the problem and have you sleeping comfortably again.

        When you say body impressions, I'm feeling like you are saying there it's visible where you lay. This may be because I make the covers quite loose. This is because if you make the cover tight, it creates a drum effect and the contour-ability of the mattress is sacrificed. However, a side effect of this is that the cover isn't tight like a harvey norman big puffy quilted mattress that's pulled really tight and glued in place.

        Mines quite loose and not thickly quilted. Some people are very sensitive to the "look" of this. At every point of the process of making my mattresses when I'm faced with a choice of looks or comfort/functionality, I choose comfort/functionality. I do it in many areas of the design. After all, the main function of a mattress is to be comfy/supportive, not to look good.

        For people that want the cover tight, it's very simple, we add a 25mm layer of foam under the springs, this pulls the cover tight, blam, now everything looks tight. This always satisfies people that are sensitive to the look. But there is a trade-off, it won't be as comfy. Very rarely do I have people wanting to do this after I explain this concept to them. Probably once a year we do this.

        "I get body aches from time to time side sleeping on it too. Never had either happen with a bed so quickly"

        This is a fit issue. You should understand that if you are getting aches, you need to adjust the mattress. I have an entire factory full of components for this exact purpose. If it's aches in the back, you might be sinking in too much, we need to bring the hips up, (make the springs firmer) if it's aches on the edges of your hips and shoulders, we might need to look at making the top or support softer.

        For people that require the shoulders/hips to sink in more, the cloud is the way to go, other people don't like this, so they take the aurora. Some people need more cushioning on top, some need less. Matching these things up is what we do. I have 45 (main) variations of feels and people choose all different ones. It's entirely possible there is a better combo for you. It's possible that you don't have the right combo which is causing the aches. Aches are a very good predictor of the wrong combo of parts.

        I like to compare this to shirts. If you buy a shirt, and you wear it, and say "this shirts bad quality, it's too tight" you would be incorrect. The quality of the shirt could be very high, you just got the fit wrong. Fit and quality are 2 different things.

        You really shouldn't be putting up with it. Why don't you give me a call and I'll sort it out for you, it's really very simple to solve. What you, or anyone with a problem at ausbeds should do is just follow our process, if we say we need to speak, speak to us, if we diagnose the issue, just follow our instructions, solving these issues is all we do every day. We are good at it. We want to fix it as quickly as possible.

        Just send me an email with your phone number, I'll call you and sort it out, I can't sort it out if you don't talk to me. [email protected] Or I have a whatsapp or phone number on my website, we are there everyday helping people adjust and tweak their ausbeds mattresses. Karl, owner at ausbeds.

  • AAN on 10/11/2024 - 13:10
    +2

    Have had a couple of these over the years, these will sag after a year or two

  • snoopydoop on 10/11/2024 - 13:26
    +2

    Good supportive bed especially for the price. Sagging comments are true - however if you turn the bed every couple of months as is recommended it lasted well for me. It wasn't until I got lazy and stopped doing it that a slight sag developed (after 2.5 years or so of ownership) - mine wasn't substantial and very tolerable but can imagine it would get worse. Perhaps this problem could be worse for heavier folks too.
    For reference I bought a queen.

    The sides aren't the greatest for sitting on either, there's a little bit of give, if that's important to you.

    • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 13:37

      How much do you weigh?

      • snoopydoop on 10/11/2024 - 15:32
        +1

        Have fluctuated but around 70-75.

  • AL008 on 10/11/2024 - 13:33
    +1

    Terrible sagging after a couple of years when you try to claim warranty they will ask you to take 1 million measurements and photos to prove the sagging occurs. Probably to justify an extreme level before they would even classify that as warranty

  • INFIDEL on 10/11/2024 - 13:39

    Bought queen size 5.5yr ago.
    Very happy with it.
    Regularly turned, no noticeable sag.
    Edges still quite firm - often sleep at edge. And regularly sit on edge with no problem.

    • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 13:40

      Black Label or Extra Firm?

      • INFIDEL on 10/11/2024 - 13:52
        +1

        Wondering that.
        Can't find the details. Not shown on eBay order.

        Label (which is black) shows little more than Zzz Atelier.
        Guess it is Black Label.

        Bought in eBay Deal for $215
        On an old sturdy wooden base.

        • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 14:00
          +1

          They look different:

          If its sides are dark, it's Black Label, otherwise Extra Firm.

          • INFIDEL on 10/11/2024 - 14:04
            +1

            @wisdomtooth: Thanks. Guess they've changed look.

            Sides are cream with horizontal black band. As you commented - shown on eBay listing for Black Label.

            It replaced a very saggy Sealy.
            Would buy these again.

            • tryagain on 10/11/2024 - 15:37
              +2

              @INFIDEL: I bought the old model at least 7 years ago and am similarly very happy with it. Reports, from when they changed to the new model, suggested it wasn't as good as the old and prone to sagging. So I just did some digging, and this one looks the same as the old model. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175312381407 I might give it a go for a couple of kid's mattresses and see how they compare.

              • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 21:23

                @tryagain: With shipping and discount (PRES15), the Dreamz single turns out dearer ($221) than the Zzz's ($199). I'll go with the better known Zzz (I can't even find Dreamz on ProductReview.com.au).

                • tryagain on 10/11/2024 - 23:35

                  @wisdomtooth:

                  With shipping and discount (PRES15), the Dreamz single turns out dearer ($221) than the Zzz's ($199)

                  Shipping depends on location, but with discounts, the single only cost me $134, and looks like I might have stumbled on a way to get free shipping to my location. Will wait and see if the order is shipped and it pans out.

                  • wisdomtooth on 11/11/2024 - 00:14

                    @tryagain: Yeah, that's a pretty good deal, if indeed it is Zzz's old model.

                    Shipping to me is over $70.

                    So what's the trick?

        • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 14:02
          +1

          Looks like it's the Black Label old model (according to the photo in the eBay listing).

          • bigpallooka on 10/11/2024 - 19:53

            @wisdomtooth: There are 3 models in this eBay listing. Can you confirm which one?

            • wisdomtooth on 10/11/2024 - 20:41

              @bigpallooka: I was referring to @INFIDEL's comment up above, not this Dreamz eBay listing @tryagain just brought up. Buying this different brand in the hopes of it being Zzz's old model based on looks alone seems like a long shot, though.

  • Svky on 10/11/2024 - 13:48
    +1

    Very value for money. My extra firm is about 7 years with once a year turn. Sag a bit after many years but i think it was because hours of sitting down watching tv on it every night.

  • Guybrush- Threepwood on 10/11/2024 - 14:02
    +1

    Had one of these as a guest bed mattress for a couple of years and everyone that stays over says how comfortable it is. My mum even bought one for her guests after using ours.

    They are nice and firm-medium softness.

    Can't comment on how long they hold their firmness, but I wouldn't expect a $300 mattress to last forever (unlike our 100% latex which is still the best mattress I've ever used 10 years later).

  • Michaelz101 on 10/11/2024 - 14:36
    +5

    Had it for 3 years. In the last year, it gave me severe back pain every morning. Initially I thought I was injured but since the mattress change have not had any issues.

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