Free Gaza Solidarity Sticker Delivered after Contact from Amnesty International Australia

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Free Gaza Solidarity Sticker Delivered after Contact from Amnesty International Australia
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Get your sticker to show support or to make sure others cannot show their support.

At the time of writing 689 sign ups of the 2500 goal had been reached.

Please note that due to limited stock and resources, this product is only available to those who have not previously signed up for a free sticker or poster from Amnesty. We will not be able to fulfil your order if you have already signed up for a free sticker or poster from us.

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Comments

  • tessel on 30/10/2024 - 08:50
    +11

    According to "rules" I need a valid comment and reason to down vote. So I choose:
    -Issue with product
    The product here is supporting Hamas indirectly, as they are the political "party" in control. I have an issue with them.

  • elektron on 30/10/2024 - 09:04
    +10

    A call to genocide posing as a bargain. What happened to this site?

    • sarah965 on 30/10/2024 - 09:23
      +6

      Funny you’re opposed to a “call to genocide”, but ok with Israel actually committing a genocide

      • garygaz on 30/10/2024 - 09:28
        +1

        me: is Israel committing genocide, to the most technical definition of genocide available, in Palestine?

        chatgpt:

        The term "genocide" has a precise legal definition as outlined in the 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Under Article II of the Convention, genocide is defined as acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, specifically through:

        Killing members of the group;
        Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
        Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction in whole or in part;
        Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
        Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
        For an action to legally qualify as genocide, there must be evidence of intent to destroy a group as such, not merely incidental harm or conflict. Determining whether specific events constitute genocide requires clear evidence that actions are taken with a specific intent to destroy a group. Some international legal experts and scholars argue that actions in certain conflicts, including those involving Israel and Palestine, could meet criteria under parts of the Genocide Convention, while others interpret the intent and context differently, framing it as part of prolonged political or territorial disputes rather than genocide per se.

        The International Criminal Court (ICC) and other bodies would be responsible for making a formal legal determination, and this process would require significant investigation and evidence, particularly concerning intent, to substantiate the claim of genocide formally. The situation is complex, with varying legal interpretations influenced by geopolitical, historical, and evidentiary factors.

        me: so, is it or not?

        chatgpt:

        At this stage, no formal international legal body, such as the ICC or the International Court of Justice, has concluded that Israel's actions in Palestine legally constitute genocide. The term has been used by various advocates and commentators to describe certain policies and actions; however, whether these actions meet the strict legal definition—particularly the required intent to destroy a group in whole or in part—remains highly debated and unproven in a formal legal context.

        While aspects of the conflict might fit some criteria outlined in the Genocide Convention, the lack of a formal, definitive finding of genocidal intent from an authoritative international body means that the classification remains disputed. Ultimately, only a comprehensive investigation with concrete evidence presented in an international court could yield a conclusive legal determination on this question.

        • pakikanga on 30/10/2024 - 10:03
          +4

          Do you really need AI to see what's happening right in front of you?

        • Lucille Bluth on 30/10/2024 - 10:33
          +1

          Whatever your beliefs are, surely you can think for yourself without having to copy and paste long slabs of text from ChatGPT?

      • Mr Plow on 30/10/2024 - 15:00

        Funny that you call this "genocide" but not Iran and Hamas's actual declaration of intended genocide as "genocide". From the river to the sea, hey?

    • utopia on 30/10/2024 - 10:50
      +5

      Exactly.
      And actively tearing up & creating trauma to Australias own citizens from Arab world & Jews.

      This isn't even political, it's plain stupidity and lack of insight to the trauma to social cohension for short term woke points or votes.

      Which also explains why the Greens are supporters.

      • gfjh567gh3 on 30/10/2024 - 19:53
        -2

        I largely agree with your sentiments.

        The factor that this conversation is missing, is that Marxism is what is pushing the "colonialism is bad" narrative of modern history.
        Jews do well to blend like chameleons in various populations, the more multicultural, the better for them.
        To the naked eye, they are 'caucasian/white', but they have strong in group preference and strongly identify as Jewish above all else.
        The irony is that their chameleon nature of blending into 'white' native populations (and invariably holding over-representation in politics and media) has now placed them in the firing line for the same criticisms as native whites - namely, colonialism and genocide.

        Hamas is not the elected Government of Palestine. Hamas is very likely controlled or otherwise funded by Israel.
        Its very strange seeing people so programmed that Jews are victim minorities that they defend clear invasion and land grabs.

        • elektron on 30/10/2024 - 20:12

          Pure fascism.

  • Nick0001 on 30/10/2024 - 09:04

    Gaza for ever free world boss, portmore empire yuh dun know.

  • Rabidnz on 30/10/2024 - 09:05
    -2

    Stop saying free Palestine because Israel thinks you are offering it to them free of charge.

  • Amotti on 30/10/2024 - 09:10
    +12

    When do the end Islamic terrorism stickers get released? Long overdue.

  • Zonty on 30/10/2024 - 09:11
    +3

    Lol people are dumb, This support stickers are means nothing. If people really worried about own people go back own country and fight. If You migrant and live here it means you are now Australian and care about this country.

    I believe that if you loved so much own people why do you come here? If you came here why can not accept this is your now country and do anything to protect rather than protests on street and inconvenient for others.

    • robbiey on 30/10/2024 - 09:18
      +3

      Yes you're right. We live here so we shouldn't care what's happening around the world. We should support our government even if it funds an ongoing genocide.

      But here is an alternative viewpoint. Did you ever think that a lot of people migrate to Australia to avoid warzones that are funded by Western Governments for their interests? You know like Syria and Iraq? So maybe people like to protest to avoid these scenarios so people don't have to leave their own countries because of the ideals of the 'West'.

      • Zonty on 30/10/2024 - 09:40
        +4

        I am saying if you really care then go back and help rather than steering this Gaza support pot. Talking and acting huge differences. This stickers are talk not act.

        I believe you do not feel this is your country.I am also migrant and I know if I live here which provides everything which my country was failed then I owe this country even ready for war to protect.

        • robbiey on 30/10/2024 - 16:16
          +1

          Ok so people that are uncomfortable with the genocide shouldn't protest, be it with a sticker or any other means, but rather they should go do something and what does that entail? Join the frontlines? Go to Gaza?

          Who knows, wearing a sticker might prompt someone to ask about it and make them protest and so on and the more voices the better. Many courses of actions in history have been changed by public discourse so saying that you have to go to the middle east to help is such a stupid take it really doesn't deserve my response.

    • elektron on 30/10/2024 - 13:47
      +1

      I'd call it virtue signalling, but supporting terrorism, deliberate massacre of civilians and hostage taking is hardly a virtue.

    • gfjh567gh3 on 30/10/2024 - 19:55

      Agreed. Why are so many migrants "looking to build a better life" never manage to do it in their country of origin?
      Why are so many migrants so passionate about politics in their home country?
      Mexicans, Turks, Lebanese, Algerians, Israelis are prime examples.
      The only people I've met that seem like true refugees were Syrian Christians. They truly miss their country, but it was turned to rubble. They do not return for holidays, like the other groups.

  • drhip on 30/10/2024 - 09:12
    +9

    Free Gaza from terrorism first me think !!!

  • illusiveguy on 30/10/2024 - 09:16
    +3

    OzBargain - come for the $1 wicked wings, stay for the geopolitical discourse

  • imtheonewhoknocks on 30/10/2024 - 09:26
    +8

    This doesn't belong here, go farm your data elsewhere

  • Shaquille Oatmeal on 30/10/2024 - 09:32
    -2

    It’s lovely to see the number of upvotes compared to the brainwashed downvotes

    • lethalmoney on 30/10/2024 - 09:39
      +12

      Considering downvoting is suppressed, not sure how you can claim any accuracy to that statement.

      • SlickMick on 30/10/2024 - 10:33
        +4

        That's what we've become. The minority shout to be heard, and unfortunately the gullible listen. Even with a poll, they'd come out of the woodwork to imitate strength.

      • Shaquille Oatmeal on 30/10/2024 - 11:43

        Have an awesome day 🇵🇸

    • Suspect420 on 30/10/2024 - 10:31
      +1

      You too, can be a hero.
      Perhaps you could join the ranks of the good Samaritans? By Joining the Israeli Destruction Force, you could be helping the sick and wounded by wiping them out - you're not just earning kudos – you're effectively becoming a budget superhero, by reducing the amount of receivers. As an added bonus and to stretch the donation budget even further, you could join in killling the innocent, unarmed, malnourished orphans, children, women and the elderly.

      The Aus media would lap you up and help glorify your image from the West to the Eastern coasts of Australia.

      I truly feel sorry for people like you and hope you're able to set aside your hate to see the clear difference between right and wrong.

    • Shaquille Oatmeal on 30/10/2024 - 11:44
      +3

      Get your education from somewhere other than CNN

  • Cluster on 30/10/2024 - 09:52
    +7

    I support Palestinians and Israelis living in peace, and Palestinians having a country to call their own.

    I just don't know if this can ever be achieved, and how a bumper sticker helps.

    • johnfuller on 30/10/2024 - 09:53
      +2

      theres nothing wrong with both, its the whole israeli zionism propaganda

      On November 10, 1975, the UN General Assembly adopted G.A. Resolution 3379, which declared Zionism to be “a form of racism and racial discrimnation.” The resolution also cited the political declaration adopted at the Conference of Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Non-Aligned Countries held at Lima, Peru, on August 25–30

      • shakman on 30/10/2024 - 10:28
        +2

        Just a heads up, that resolution was revoked in December 1991, by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 46/86.

  • philmarcracken on 30/10/2024 - 10:05
    +3

    red vs blue always ends badly, and will never be a bargin

  • sandman20104159 on 30/10/2024 - 10:08
    +1

    this whole war over there, i dont understand who is the good guys and who is the bad, i heard there are 3 different teams fighting… its all so confusing to me.

    • Whatisthatvelvet on 30/10/2024 - 10:17
      +2

      Just stick around and read the comments. Everyone has an opinion on this. You'll go away even more confused

    • SlickMick on 30/10/2024 - 10:55

      If you'd like the facts to make an informed decision, I'll be doing a presentation on the whole history of the area soon(-ish) and would be happy to send you a copy.
      [I am totally biased, but I'll provide reliable references for all facts.]

      • sandman20104159 on 30/10/2024 - 11:44

        sure. would like to know

      • Shaquille Oatmeal on 30/10/2024 - 11:46
        +4

        Cool story. Hope it starts at 1948 when another country gave someone else’s country to people being persecuted in Europe

  • Tiredman on 30/10/2024 - 10:13
    +5

    Good to see human decency prevailing by the upvotes far outnumbering the downvotes.

    Shit like this breaks my heart.

    https://x.com/InsiderWorld_1/status/1848270322362954233

    Not to mention the thousands of children buried under rubble. You must be a different level of human being to look past these atrocities. Zionists are free to reply me, i won't bother replying your kind.

    • Mondorock on 30/10/2024 - 10:48
      -2

      I saw that video and the general consensus is that it's fake/propaganda.

    • SlickMick on 30/10/2024 - 10:56
      +2

      Did you see any footage from October 7 2023?

      • io on 30/10/2024 - 14:21
        +5

        Why? Why October 7 2023? Was it the start? Does 1948 ring a bell? It’s an ongoing issue for more than 75 years when another country gave someone else’s country to people being persecuted in Europe. That’s when it started. It did not start Oct 7, 23.

        • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 14:32

          The so called “Palestinian” people was a term invented in the 60’s

          The Arab “Palestinians” never had any sovereign control over the land

          • Rick Sanchez on 31/10/2024 - 01:30

            @popcornready: Ah yes and the land was free for the taking.

            Have you seen what Gaza looks like? It's a land locked concentration camp.

        • SlickMick on 30/10/2024 - 15:29
          +2

          So just to be clear, you don't have an issue with Israel in particular, but "everyone" picking on Palestine, yeah?

          Maybe you should go a bit further back in history and consider why 1948 happened.

          • io on 30/10/2024 - 17:44
            +2

            @SlickMick: No not even Palestine. I am not from that land, I have no connection to that land. Even if they were not in this oppressed situation, they might as well be like the rest of the Arab countries where there is no democracy and no justice. Look at Saudi, Dubai or the rest. It's even punishable by lifetime imprisonment if anyone starts a protest in Dubai. No freedom. No life only oppression. Why will I support those people?

            I am not for Palestine in particular, but I do condemn the bombing and killing of innocent people by Apartheid regime. Ok let me go one step ahead, I condemn Hamas as well if innocent ones are killed (no innocent is allowed to be killed or punished). But what about the millions of killing and oppression which is going on for 75 years? What about the blatant lies saying that they are terrorists?

  • ge on 30/10/2024 - 10:25
    +1

    🍿

  • Rick Sanchez on 30/10/2024 - 10:26
    +3

    Neg as not a bargain, you give up your data and they will call you.
    Also given how one sided the 'conversations' have been on a complex, f'd up situation without a simple solution like stickers and flags suggest, I'd be worried of just eliciting more hate.

    • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 12:43
      +3

      Hommus is the solution, everyone likes hommus

  • nizzkid on 30/10/2024 - 10:31
    +1

    So many (insert random slur) fobes.

  • idyllboy on 30/10/2024 - 10:35
    +3

    from https://www.britannica.com/topic/terrorism

    Defining Terrorism:
    terrorism, the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective. Terrorism has been practiced by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and religious groups, by revolutionaries, and even by state institutions such as armies, intelligence services, and police.

    Why would you let some government or other institutional player tell you who is a terrorist and who isn't, if they won't argue it based on an actual definition.

  • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 10:38
    +5

    Should be paid to sign up for this… no deal

  • Mondorock on 30/10/2024 - 10:46
    +3

    Wtf is the sticker for showing support for rescuing the hostages?

  • Dr Prepper on 30/10/2024 - 10:48
    -2

    Anyone else's beeper get really warm after looking at this " deal" ?

    • Mondorock on 30/10/2024 - 11:10

      What's a beeper?

      • Dr Prepper on 30/10/2024 - 11:45

        a beeper is a pager that goes KaBoom!

  • truongster on 30/10/2024 - 10:54
    +4

    Deals like this that bring in Ad revenue/traffic/ regardless of political stance should be banned.

  • eitai2001 on 30/10/2024 - 11:02
    +10

    This sticker purports a statement that is false. While it appears to be a "genuine" cause due to the mass uptake of the slogan and support from seemingly valid organizations, it has also been disproven and is part of misinformation propaganda suited to benefit terrorist organisations. You will note that the US and European Commission have rejected the statement: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2022-00093…

    Furthermore, the examples of similar deals provided, with the exception of stand with ukraine, are purely political and not in support of terrorist organisations. Stand with Ukraine is an interesting exception as Russia attacked Ukraine unprovoked. Whereas this sticker is talking about Israel being an Appartheid ruler in Gaza, where they have not been involved in since the mid 2000's, except that they prevent border access into Israel. Rather Hamas ruled the region instead and chose to spend their billions in funding on terror infrastructure. Or did we expect those tunnels built themselves?

  • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 11:03
    +3

    some Australians support what Israel is doing?
    The constant encroachment on Palestinian land, the constant vetoing of Palestinian statehood in the UN General Assembly, and then the constant killing of civilians.
    Just look at the UN General Assembly vote on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict to see how hypocritical and shameless those in favour of Israel are!

    • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 12:48
      +2

      Some Australians support Hamas as well? Probably. This shietfight has been going down for 2000 years, it's an inter-millenial conflict based around religion.

      Our pesky opinions, even pesky opinions of the UN, mean nothing to them.

      • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 14:32
        +1

        This is clearly not a religious conflict that has been going on for 2,000 years.
        Do you know who helped create Hamas? is Israel！
        The views of the United Nations perhaps meaningless to some, but it's representative of how people of conscience on this planet view the conflict.
        Some Australians can hate this opinion of the UN, just as they didn't have to respect the local Australian aborigines from the time of the British colonisation of the continent, but collectively punishing all Palestinians (all of whom you assert are Hamas) in the modern era goes against the most basic conscience of what it is to be a human being.
        May I ask if your child is a human being, and the life of a 50,000 Palestinian child is not a human life?

        • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 14:53
          +1

          Yes you're right, the religious battle on that soil extends over 3000 years. You can ignore the history on the strip and cry "think of the children" but it doesn't change reality. No matter what I say or do, no matter what you say or do. It's the holy land, and it's been razed and rebuilt by the victors time and time again.

          • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:00
            +1

            @illogicalerror: There is no such thing as 3,000 years, everything is made up in your own imagination, and you can't look for evidence in the ancient books you made up, because it doesn't count as evidence.

            • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 15:02
              +1

              @gwerae: The war over there now is imaginary too, see. I refute your nonsense and apply my own.

              • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:08

                @illogicalerror: Almost all of the countries in the modern world have been established since WWII, and you're clearly trying to obfuscate the legitimacy of the Palestinians' ownership of that land by insisting that it starts with a religious conflict that began 3,000 years ago.
                It's pretty obvious what you're up to, so I'll cut to the chase.

                • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 15:13
                  +1

                  @gwerae: The “Palestinians” never owned that land and never had sovereign control. What are you on about?

                  • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:23
                    +1

                    @popcornready: So your evidence points to Israel having control of that land somewhere?

                  • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:36
                    +1

                    @popcornready: The fact that the victors of the WWII, led by the United States of America, took advantage of the chaos of the emerging countries that had not yet established their governments in the short period after the end of the WWII to designate them in their own imagined ‘Promised Land’ would have been fine if it had ended there, but instead of ending there has been a continuous encroachment on the land through the means of the Israeli settlements, massacres, and displacement of the local people under the pretext of a 3000 year old religious conflict. The Israeli use a 3,000-year-old religious conflict as an excuse. It also covers its ugly face by performing the clownish act of crushing the Charter of the UN in the General Assembly .

                • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 16:12

                  @gwerae: You keep making things up about me. It's a weak internet type of pseudo intellectualism where the person being falsely accused is supposed to get outraged and defend themselves… except this doesn't work on me because I'm a grown up.

                  I always keep coming back to the topic… except where people are somehow unable to talk about the topic without applying (the aforementioned) false logic to try and turn the topic into an pointless argument. Now here we are.

                  Keep fabricating stuff about anyone and anything though, it makes for great quid pro quo internet forum punch em ups.

                  Have fun.

                  • gwerae on 31/10/2024 - 00:03

                    @illogicalerror: I'm not making anything up about you, I'm pointing out your mistake based on the fact that a religious conflict that has lasted 3000 years is obviously a rumour that has been spreading on the internet for a long time. The purpose of this rumour is to obfuscate the legitimacy of the Palestinians' ownership of the land, and these people insist on that purpose and that's why they are spreading this rumour.
                    You are of course free to continue spreading rumours, but I must point out that this is an outright lie, have fun!

      • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 14:51
        +1

        Splitting Palestine into 2 pieces and trapping a portion of the Palestinians in an area as small as Gaza and constantly encroaching on Palestinian territory with Israeli settlements…. Since 1948, Israel has been expanding its territory until it has been divided into its present state, and it has trapped people in that area with barbed wire, turning it into a huge open-air prison, and it would be strange if there were no resistance.

    • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 14:19
      +4

      The same UN that picks Saudi Arabia to lead the women’s right forum ?

      The same UN that appointed Iran to chair the Human Rights meeting?

      The same UN that supports UNRWA that employees terrorist leaders?

      • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 14:40

        So millions of people are all Hamas?
        So you can follow the United States in supporting Israel in displacing millions of people at will?
        So you can kill as many people as you want, including women and children, under that pretext?
        So you've been taught that one case is representative of all?
        Then why do you want people to vote?
        Hypocrisy.

        • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 15:06
          +2

          People elected a government in Hamas.

          It’s up to Hamas to stop hiding amongst their people and protect them. How many people were protected in the tunnels? Or was that just Hamas protecting themselves.

          If Hamas started a war it’s on them to protect their people

          The death ratio is better than any other urban war. Appears the IDF are not killing as many as they want.

          • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:21
            +1

            @popcornready: Apparently, what you lack is not only education but also access to real information.
            Hamas was originally established with the help of Israel to counter another Palestinian political group….
            So voting for Hamas to run an area that no other governmental organisation can run is going to be collective punishment by Israel? And to endure the killing of over 50,000 children?

            • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 15:24
              +1

              @gwerae: So Hamas isn’t a proxy of Iran?

              50k children.

              Are we just making numbers up?

              First it was $60k in total, then someone said millions, then someone said 200k.
              Hamas better get their propaganda consistent

              • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:45
                +1

                @popcornready: My data comes from UN reports and is much more truthful than your data from a few media sources that are bought out by Israel, so I suggest you read some real news and get educated instead of reading fake news to satisfy your own little sense of superiority!

                • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 15:52
                  +1

                  @gwerae: Where does the UN get their data?

                  Let me tell you, Hamas.

                  • gwerae on 31/10/2024 - 00:43

                    @popcornready: You can call anyone who opposes Israeli practices Hamas, and you can add any label you want to anyone who opposes your views,
                    It may make you feel better, but it doesn't hide your hypocrisy.
                    My sources are the same as UNICEF UNHCR WIKIPEDIA SAVE THE CHILDREN and your sources are CNN, SKY NEWS, 9 NEWS and LOL.

    • robbiey on 30/10/2024 - 16:20

      Of course Australians would support what Israel is doing. They have a lot in common. Colonialism and the killing of people Indigenous to the land. Right in Australia's wheelhouse.

      • kmador on 30/10/2024 - 23:03

        Jews are the indigenous people of the land. Go learn some history.

        • gwerae on 31/10/2024 - 00:52
          +1

          Yes, the evidence for the Jews is found in their own compilation of ancient religious books, and they can ‘discover’ more new continents in the future, as long as they claim to have found something new in the books themselves LOL
          A robber always needs an excuse to convince himself before he does something bad. shameless!!!!

  • pakikanga on 30/10/2024 - 11:04
    +6

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/oct/29/middle-ea…

    93 civilians killed. 20 were children. But no, keep thinking that you're on the good side.

    • eitai2001 on 30/10/2024 - 11:13
      +7

      Child, or any civilian deaths are horrible. But how do you fight an enemy that purposely puts civilians and children in the firing line purely to have a strong propaganda war? https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.…

      What would save more civilian lives and children?
      A) Israel not doing anything but keeps getting attacked such as the constant suicide attacks currently happening at public transport stops, at the request of Hamas leadership, and potential for future Oct 7 attacks
      B) Israel attacking, but not any civilian infrastructure including that which Hamas hides within
      C) Hamas getting rid of their charter to destroy Israel and simply not attacking Israel anymore and actually trying to improve the living conditions of the Palestinian people

      I think the answer is easy to select, but unfortunately will never happen. Because the current rulers of the Gaza strip don't actually care about the gaza strip…

      • Mondorock on 30/10/2024 - 11:49
        +4

        I still don't understand Hamas attacking Israel knowing that they would get destroyed. Insane logic.

        • RiseAndRuin on 30/10/2024 - 12:13
          +5

          Individuals that e.g. blow themselves up to kill others, don't generally follow a sane logic.

        • liongalahad on 30/10/2024 - 13:15
          +4

          the logic is Hamas does not care of the death of the palestinian civilians. They actually encourage it, they specifiaclly said that the civilian's blood is needed for the palestinian cause. This was their plan all along - i.e. provoke a heavy response form Israel and have the international community to pressure Israel to stop. What they didnt take into account is that Isreal would not give a flying f*** of the pressure from the international community and they went ahead no matter what, destroying the whole Hamas leadership. Same happend with Hezboillah - they completely underestimated Israel's determination and now their whole leadership is dead. I suspect Iran's leadership may well be next.
          Now all is left is for the hostages to retrun safely to Israel and the war, at last on this Gaza front, can end.

          So the badge to distribute should be "Free all hostages" which is the only realistic way to stop Israel's bombs.

      • gwerae on 31/10/2024 - 01:16

        It's someone's homeland, you kill people on their homeland land, you can claim that anywhere is a front line, you run into someone's home, the adults in their home protect their children, you can claim that anyone is Hamas, and how ridiculous to keep encroaching on someone's land for the last 70 years or so since the end of WWII and find evidence from your own compiled religious ancient books that it's the land of the Israelis!

        A) Israel is not innocent, taking other people's homes, eating up other people's land, and after that providing people with limited electricity, water and energy on a daily basis, forcing Palestinians to move out of their homes through Israeli settlements, which even wild animals would fight against, not to mention human beings.
        B) Israel can fight back against Hamas, but collective punishment of Palestinian civilians is excessive. hospitals, schools and other public facilities cannot be indiscriminately bombed under the pretext of fighting Hamas.
        C) Why doesn't Israel remove the settlements and return the territories to the way they were when Israel was founded? By guaranteeing the safety of the Palestinians on the ground, they are also protecting the Israelis themselves.

        Israel is clearly on the strong side, and it is significantly easier to do this, so why not? Obviously, those who do bad things will never review themselves and will surely find all sorts of excuses to justify themselves

    • Mondorock on 30/10/2024 - 11:14
      +3

      Why are people still in northern Gaza?? Israel told them to evacuate that area A YEAR AGO.

      • spy on 30/10/2024 - 12:09
        +2

        To where genuis?

        • Mondorock on 30/10/2024 - 12:27
          +4

          To the south, obviously.

          • spy on 31/10/2024 - 09:36

            @Mondorock: You're clearly out of touch. They've been yoyo'd around everywhere and attacked in shelters and schools and safe zones. They got squeezed and cornered into Rafah and then Rafah got razed.

            • SlickMick on 31/10/2024 - 09:50

              @spy: It's a tough situation. If they don't keep moving, Hamas will keep hiding behind them.

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