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Get your sticker to show support or to make sure others cannot show their support.

At the time of writing 689 sign ups of the 2500 goal had been reached.

Please note that due to limited stock and resources, this product is only available to those who have not previously signed up for a free sticker or poster from Amnesty. We will not be able to fulfil your order if you have already signed up for a free sticker or poster from us.

By taking action, you give permission for Amnesty International Australia to contact you about more ways to support our campaigns.

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Comments

      • io on 30/10/2024 - 14:21
        +8

        Why? Why October 7 2023? Was it the start? Does 1948 ring a bell? It’s an ongoing issue for more than 75 years when another country gave someone else’s country to people being persecuted in Europe. That’s when it started. It did not start Oct 7, 23.

        • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 14:32

          The so called “Palestinian” people was a term invented in the 60’s

          The Arab “Palestinians” never had any sovereign control over the land

          • Rick Sanchez on 31/10/2024 - 01:30
            +1

            @popcornready: Ah yes and the land was free for the taking.

            Have you seen what Gaza looks like? It's a land locked concentration camp.

        • SlickMick on 30/10/2024 - 15:29
          +2

          So just to be clear, you don't have an issue with Israel in particular, but "everyone" picking on Palestine, yeah?

          Maybe you should go a bit further back in history and consider why 1948 happened.

          • io on 30/10/2024 - 17:44
            +3

            @SlickMick: No not even Palestine. I am not from that land, I have no connection to that land. Even if they were not in this oppressed situation, they might as well be like the rest of the Arab countries where there is no democracy and no justice. Look at Saudi, Dubai or the rest. It's even punishable by lifetime imprisonment if anyone starts a protest in Dubai. No freedom. No life only oppression. Why will I support those people?

            I am not for Palestine in particular, but I do condemn the bombing and killing of innocent people by Apartheid regime. Ok let me go one step ahead, I condemn Hamas as well if innocent ones are killed (no innocent is allowed to be killed or punished). But what about the millions of killing and oppression which is going on for 75 years? What about the blatant lies saying that they are terrorists?

  • ge on 30/10/2024 - 10:25
    +1

    🍿

  • Rick Sanchez on 30/10/2024 - 10:26
    +4

    Neg as not a bargain, you give up your data and they will call you.
    Also given how one sided the 'conversations' have been on a complex, f'd up situation without a simple solution like stickers and flags suggest, I'd be worried of just eliciting more hate.

    • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 12:43
      +3

      Hommus is the solution, everyone likes hommus

  • Ozbargainusername123 on 30/10/2024 - 10:31
    +1

    So many (insert random slur) fobes.

  • idyllboy on 30/10/2024 - 10:35
    +4

    from https://www.britannica.com/topic/terrorism

    Defining Terrorism:
    terrorism, the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective. Terrorism has been practiced by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and religious groups, by revolutionaries, and even by state institutions such as armies, intelligence services, and police.

    Why would you let some government or other institutional player tell you who is a terrorist and who isn't, if they won't argue it based on an actual definition.

  • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 10:38
    +4

    Should be paid to sign up for this… no deal

  • Mr Bob Dobalina on 30/10/2024 - 10:46
    +2

    Wtf is the sticker for showing support for rescuing the hostages?

  • Dr Prepper on 30/10/2024 - 10:48
    -4

    Anyone else's beeper get really warm after looking at this " deal" ?

    • Mr Bob Dobalina on 30/10/2024 - 11:10

      What's a beeper?

      • Dr Prepper on 30/10/2024 - 11:45
        +1

        a beeper is a pager that goes KaBoom!

  • truongster on 30/10/2024 - 10:54
    +3

    Deals like this that bring in Ad revenue/traffic/ regardless of political stance should be banned.

  • eitai2001 on 30/10/2024 - 11:02
    +8

    This sticker purports a statement that is false. While it appears to be a "genuine" cause due to the mass uptake of the slogan and support from seemingly valid organizations, it has also been disproven and is part of misinformation propaganda suited to benefit terrorist organisations. You will note that the US and European Commission have rejected the statement: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2022-00093…

    Furthermore, the examples of similar deals provided, with the exception of stand with ukraine, are purely political and not in support of terrorist organisations. Stand with Ukraine is an interesting exception as Russia attacked Ukraine unprovoked. Whereas this sticker is talking about Israel being an Appartheid ruler in Gaza, where they have not been involved in since the mid 2000's, except that they prevent border access into Israel. Rather Hamas ruled the region instead and chose to spend their billions in funding on terror infrastructure. Or did we expect those tunnels built themselves?

  • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 11:03
    +5

    some Australians support what Israel is doing?
    The constant encroachment on Palestinian land, the constant vetoing of Palestinian statehood in the UN General Assembly, and then the constant killing of civilians.
    Just look at the UN General Assembly vote on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict to see how hypocritical and shameless those in favour of Israel are!

    • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 12:48
      +1

      Some Australians support Hamas as well? Probably. This shietfight has been going down for 2000 years, it's an inter-millenial conflict based around religion.

      Our pesky opinions, even pesky opinions of the UN, mean nothing to them.

      • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 14:32
        +4

        This is clearly not a religious conflict that has been going on for 2,000 years.
        Do you know who helped create Hamas? is Israel！
        The views of the United Nations perhaps meaningless to some, but it's representative of how people of conscience on this planet view the conflict.
        Some Australians can hate this opinion of the UN, just as they didn't have to respect the local Australian aborigines from the time of the British colonisation of the continent, but collectively punishing all Palestinians (all of whom you assert are Hamas) in the modern era goes against the most basic conscience of what it is to be a human being.
        May I ask if your child is a human being, and the life of a 50,000 Palestinian child is not a human life?

        • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 14:53
          +1

          Yes you're right, the religious battle on that soil extends over 3000 years. You can ignore the history on the strip and cry "think of the children" but it doesn't change reality. No matter what I say or do, no matter what you say or do. It's the holy land, and it's been razed and rebuilt by the victors time and time again.

          • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:00
            +3

            @illogicalerror: There is no such thing as 3,000 years, everything is made up in your own imagination, and you can't look for evidence in the ancient books you made up, because it doesn't count as evidence.

            • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 15:02
              +1

              @gwerae: The war over there now is imaginary too, see. I refute your nonsense and apply my own.

              • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:08
                +2

                @illogicalerror: Almost all of the countries in the modern world have been established since WWII, and you're clearly trying to obfuscate the legitimacy of the Palestinians' ownership of that land by insisting that it starts with a religious conflict that began 3,000 years ago.
                It's pretty obvious what you're up to, so I'll cut to the chase.

                • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 15:13
                  +1

                  @gwerae: The “Palestinians” never owned that land and never had sovereign control. What are you on about?

                  • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:23
                    +3

                    @popcornready: So your evidence points to Israel having control of that land somewhere?

                  • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:36
                    +3

                    @popcornready: The fact that the victors of the WWII, led by the United States of America, took advantage of the chaos of the emerging countries that had not yet established their governments in the short period after the end of the WWII to designate them in their own imagined ‘Promised Land’ would have been fine if it had ended there, but instead of ending there has been a continuous encroachment on the land through the means of the Israeli settlements, massacres, and displacement of the local people under the pretext of a 3000 year old religious conflict. The Israeli use a 3,000-year-old religious conflict as an excuse. It also covers its ugly face by performing the clownish act of crushing the Charter of the UN in the General Assembly .

                • illogicalerror on 30/10/2024 - 16:12

                  @gwerae: You keep making things up about me. It's a weak internet type of pseudo intellectualism where the person being falsely accused is supposed to get outraged and defend themselves… except this doesn't work on me because I'm a grown up.

                  I always keep coming back to the topic… except where people are somehow unable to talk about the topic without applying (the aforementioned) false logic to try and turn the topic into an pointless argument. Now here we are.

                  Keep fabricating stuff about anyone and anything though, it makes for great quid pro quo internet forum punch em ups.

                  Have fun.

                  • gwerae on 31/10/2024 - 00:03
                    +2

                    @illogicalerror: I'm not making anything up about you, I'm pointing out your mistake based on the fact that a religious conflict that has lasted 3000 years is obviously a rumour that has been spreading on the internet for a long time. The purpose of this rumour is to obfuscate the legitimacy of the Palestinians' ownership of the land, and these people insist on that purpose and that's why they are spreading this rumour.
                    You are of course free to continue spreading rumours, but I must point out that this is an outright lie, have fun!

      • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 14:51
        +3

        Splitting Palestine into 2 pieces and trapping a portion of the Palestinians in an area as small as Gaza and constantly encroaching on Palestinian territory with Israeli settlements…. Since 1948, Israel has been expanding its territory until it has been divided into its present state, and it has trapped people in that area with barbed wire, turning it into a huge open-air prison, and it would be strange if there were no resistance.

    • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 14:19
      +4

      The same UN that picks Saudi Arabia to lead the women’s right forum ?

      The same UN that appointed Iran to chair the Human Rights meeting?

      The same UN that supports UNRWA that employees terrorist leaders?

      • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 14:40
        +2

        So millions of people are all Hamas?
        So you can follow the United States in supporting Israel in displacing millions of people at will?
        So you can kill as many people as you want, including women and children, under that pretext?
        So you've been taught that one case is representative of all?
        Then why do you want people to vote?
        Hypocrisy.

        • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 15:06
          +2

          People elected a government in Hamas.

          It’s up to Hamas to stop hiding amongst their people and protect them. How many people were protected in the tunnels? Or was that just Hamas protecting themselves.

          If Hamas started a war it’s on them to protect their people

          The death ratio is better than any other urban war. Appears the IDF are not killing as many as they want.

          • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:21
            +3

            @popcornready: Apparently, what you lack is not only education but also access to real information.
            Hamas was originally established with the help of Israel to counter another Palestinian political group….
            So voting for Hamas to run an area that no other governmental organisation can run is going to be collective punishment by Israel? And to endure the killing of over 50,000 children?

            • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 15:24
              +1

              @gwerae: So Hamas isn’t a proxy of Iran?

              50k children.

              Are we just making numbers up?

              First it was $60k in total, then someone said millions, then someone said 200k.
              Hamas better get their propaganda consistent

              • gwerae on 30/10/2024 - 15:45
                +3

                @popcornready: My data comes from UN reports and is much more truthful than your data from a few media sources that are bought out by Israel, so I suggest you read some real news and get educated instead of reading fake news to satisfy your own little sense of superiority!

                • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 15:52
                  +1

                  @gwerae: Where does the UN get their data?

                  Let me tell you, Hamas.

                  • gwerae on 31/10/2024 - 00:43
                    +2

                    @popcornready: You can call anyone who opposes Israeli practices Hamas, and you can add any label you want to anyone who opposes your views,
                    It may make you feel better, but it doesn't hide your hypocrisy.
                    My sources are the same as UNICEF UNHCR WIKIPEDIA SAVE THE CHILDREN and your sources are CNN, SKY NEWS, 9 NEWS and LOL.

    • robbiey on 30/10/2024 - 16:20
      +2

      Of course Australians would support what Israel is doing. They have a lot in common. Colonialism and the killing of people Indigenous to the land. Right in Australia's wheelhouse.

      • kmador on 30/10/2024 - 23:03

        Jews are the indigenous people of the land. Go learn some history.

        • gwerae on 31/10/2024 - 00:52
          +3

          Yes, the evidence for the Jews is found in their own compilation of ancient religious books, and they can ‘discover’ more new continents in the future, as long as they claim to have found something new in the books themselves LOL
          A robber always needs an excuse to convince himself before he does something bad. shameless!!!!

  • pakikanga on 30/10/2024 - 11:04
    +8

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/oct/29/middle-ea…

    93 civilians killed. 20 were children. But no, keep thinking that you're on the good side.

    • eitai2001 on 30/10/2024 - 11:13
      +6

      Child, or any civilian deaths are horrible. But how do you fight an enemy that purposely puts civilians and children in the firing line purely to have a strong propaganda war? https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.…

      What would save more civilian lives and children?
      A) Israel not doing anything but keeps getting attacked such as the constant suicide attacks currently happening at public transport stops, at the request of Hamas leadership, and potential for future Oct 7 attacks
      B) Israel attacking, but not any civilian infrastructure including that which Hamas hides within
      C) Hamas getting rid of their charter to destroy Israel and simply not attacking Israel anymore and actually trying to improve the living conditions of the Palestinian people

      I think the answer is easy to select, but unfortunately will never happen. Because the current rulers of the Gaza strip don't actually care about the gaza strip…

      • Mr Bob Dobalina on 30/10/2024 - 11:49
        +5

        I still don't understand Hamas attacking Israel knowing that they would get destroyed. Insane logic.

        • RiseAndRuin on 30/10/2024 - 12:13
          +6

          Individuals that e.g. blow themselves up to kill others, don't generally follow a sane logic.

        • liongalahad on 30/10/2024 - 13:15
          +5

          the logic is Hamas does not care of the death of the palestinian civilians. They actually encourage it, they specifiaclly said that the civilian's blood is needed for the palestinian cause. This was their plan all along - i.e. provoke a heavy response form Israel and have the international community to pressure Israel to stop. What they didnt take into account is that Isreal would not give a flying f*** of the pressure from the international community and they went ahead no matter what, destroying the whole Hamas leadership. Same happend with Hezboillah - they completely underestimated Israel's determination and now their whole leadership is dead. I suspect Iran's leadership may well be next.
          Now all is left is for the hostages to retrun safely to Israel and the war, at last on this Gaza front, can end.

          So the badge to distribute should be "Free all hostages" which is the only realistic way to stop Israel's bombs.

      • gwerae on 31/10/2024 - 01:16
        +2

        It's someone's homeland, you kill people on their homeland land, you can claim that anywhere is a front line, you run into someone's home, the adults in their home protect their children, you can claim that anyone is Hamas, and how ridiculous to keep encroaching on someone's land for the last 70 years or so since the end of WWII and find evidence from your own compiled religious ancient books that it's the land of the Israelis!

        A) Israel is not innocent, taking other people's homes, eating up other people's land, and after that providing people with limited electricity, water and energy on a daily basis, forcing Palestinians to move out of their homes through Israeli settlements, which even wild animals would fight against, not to mention human beings.
        B) Israel can fight back against Hamas, but collective punishment of Palestinian civilians is excessive. hospitals, schools and other public facilities cannot be indiscriminately bombed under the pretext of fighting Hamas.
        C) Why doesn't Israel remove the settlements and return the territories to the way they were when Israel was founded? By guaranteeing the safety of the Palestinians on the ground, they are also protecting the Israelis themselves.

        Israel is clearly on the strong side, and it is significantly easier to do this, so why not? Obviously, those who do bad things will never review themselves and will surely find all sorts of excuses to justify themselves

    • Mr Bob Dobalina on 30/10/2024 - 11:14
      +3

      Why are people still in northern Gaza?? Israel told them to evacuate that area A YEAR AGO.

      • spy on 30/10/2024 - 12:09
        +4

        To where genuis?

        • Mr Bob Dobalina on 30/10/2024 - 12:27
          +4

          To the south, obviously.

          • spy on 31/10/2024 - 09:36
            +2

            @Mr Bob Dobalina: You're clearly out of touch. They've been yoyo'd around everywhere and attacked in shelters and schools and safe zones. They got squeezed and cornered into Rafah and then Rafah got razed.

            • SlickMick on 31/10/2024 - 09:50
              -1

              @spy: It's a tough situation. If they don't keep moving, Hamas will keep hiding behind them.

        • SlickMick on 30/10/2024 - 13:22
          -1

          I'm curious, if you had a terrorist next door, what would you do?

          I'd be going first and working out where second.

          • spy on 31/10/2024 - 09:40
            +2

            @SlickMick: If someone played this game with you for months, having being moved on and being displaced over a dozen times, what would you do?

            Give up and let the destiny take its course is the answer that many Gazans would give you.

            • SlickMick on 31/10/2024 - 09:49
              -1

              @spy: Only if they see themselves as part of the war, not innocent victims. A victim would leave, and the aid organisations provide shelter elsewhere.

              • spy on 31/10/2024 - 11:56
                +1

                @SlickMick: Which aid organisations? They are all blocked out mate. UNWRA is supposedly supporting terrorists according to Israel. WCK deserve to be bombed and killed. I can carry on but hopefully you get the gist.

                • SlickMick on 31/10/2024 - 14:35
                  -1

                  @spy: You can't block out aid in another country, where I would have fled to if my neighbourhood was invaded by terrorists and getting bombed.

    • Fredfloresjr on 30/10/2024 - 12:35

      Checked what exactly happened last year October. And we go from there.

  • utopia on 30/10/2024 - 11:11
    +10

    Offer to possibly get 1 sticker from one of the worst global organisations, what did they even do for Ukraine being hammered by Russia? They cited Ukraine for fighting back in 2022.

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrai…

    Read carefully and compare it with what Hamas et al are doing.

    How easy it is to butter both sides of the bread to the woke who donate to this Organisation to feel good.

    Meantime, post a sticker "deal" to tear up Australian Jews and Arabs & sympathisers from 14000km away from a conflict that all sides there are complicit, dragging us further into this complicity.

    PS: Google "Australian Taxpayers pay for Gaza protesters’ office vandalism"
    Add that to all the policing hours.
    Add that to all the real lasting trauma caused to both sides of Australians. (Thank you Mods)

    Enjoy your feel good woke sticker.

  • Lancerx on 30/10/2024 - 11:11
    +2

    Haiyaa.. Why keep fighting.. Make love not war

  • donga100 on 30/10/2024 - 11:14
    +7

    If you strongly support the actions of either side you are dumb.

  • paddle pop lion on 30/10/2024 - 11:17
    +5

    keep polarizing political shit off ozbargain

  • Ozbargainusername123 on 30/10/2024 - 11:20
    +4

    Get your free Kony sticker.
    "I support current thing"

  • czxbnb on 30/10/2024 - 11:23
    +7

    Can we remove all political-related threads from OzBargain?

    • kmador on 31/10/2024 - 21:43
      +1

      I tried to report the deal and admins replied, that's it's fine.

  • gadgetguy123 on 30/10/2024 - 11:27
    +10

    Since when did a bargain site turn into a terrorist supporting site

    • Ozbargainusername123 on 30/10/2024 - 11:40
      +1

      "Mostly peaceful" terrorists.
      C'mon man.

    • Shaquille Oatmeal on 30/10/2024 - 11:48
      -5

      So, are you Aboriginal or are you also the ‘t’ word ??

  • Vampyr on 30/10/2024 - 11:29
    +2

    No to racism.

  • doubledoc on 30/10/2024 - 11:38
    +6

    hamas brought this upon the gazans
    israel got fed up with daily rockets from amongst the population
    free the hostages the war stops

    • spy on 30/10/2024 - 12:08
      +4

      Of course. Everything from Naqba to then is fiction.
      Free the hostages? Israel don't want them freed so they can help doing what they're doing. If you see the protests from the actual families of the hostages, you'll see the problem.

  • Lets Make Sandwiches on 30/10/2024 - 11:46
    +5

    Pathetic deal and a political post masquerading as a deal. Reasonable people don't support Hamas or the Palestinians that continue to support them. It's quite unbelievable how little Palenstinians understand about their whole history and the brainwashing that has ensued.

    • Shaquille Oatmeal on 30/10/2024 - 11:49
      +4

      Another CNN educated genius

      • Lets Make Sandwiches on 30/10/2024 - 11:52
        +1

        If you want to support a bunch of exiled Egyption terrorists that are responsible for the deaths of many Palentinians then go right ahead.

  • Binchicken22 on 30/10/2024 - 12:07

    Trash

  • peterw1 on 30/10/2024 - 12:10
    +9

    From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, from hamas. Thanks Israel

  • RocketFish on 30/10/2024 - 12:11
    +5

    Terrible deal. Virtue signalling in exchange for more plastic/paper waste.

  • dontbeatightarse on 30/10/2024 - 12:14
    +9

    Looks like the Murdoch media has full control of the low IQ minds of Australia.

    • Shaquille Oatmeal on 30/10/2024 - 12:18
      +6

      So true

    • Fredfloresjr on 30/10/2024 - 12:37
      +9

      You don't need IQ to understand this, was quiet day around October last year.

      Same story? Hezbollah did wants attention, they got it, and now crying.

      Who's next? Iran?

    • j0hnd0e on 30/10/2024 - 12:51
      +7

      So says the low IQ person who is being brainwashed by terrorist organizations…

      • dontbeatightarse on 30/10/2024 - 13:46
        +3

        Fighting an illegal military occupation isn't terrorism it's called a human right to equality and freedom from occupation.

        So killing 200,000 people by indiscriminately bombing a concentration camp called Gaza isn't 'terrorism'.

        • popcornready on 30/10/2024 - 14:31
          +8

          Wow, where did 200k come from?

          Source must be Hamas and “trust me bro “

        • j0hnd0e on 30/10/2024 - 14:42
          +7

          Like i said, brainwashed by terrorists.

    • kmwa on 30/10/2024 - 17:15
      +2

      Definitely no deal.
      This isn't a Gaza Solidarity sticker, it is an Anti-Israel sticker.
      Don't Amnesty International care that Israel is being bombarded with rockets from Gaza on a daily basis?

  • Gorodemon on 30/10/2024 - 12:23
    +5

    Where were they when Harambe was gunned down? No deal as I would rather support Harambe than these whinging terrorists.

  • hcl on 30/10/2024 - 12:30
    +6

    How are any of these ever helped? This mob been blocking melbourne streets and trams every weekend yet the war continues. These kind of traffic disruptions are for real turning the public opinion against themselves. The movement has became an echo chamber for that group of vocal few.

  • liongalahad on 30/10/2024 - 12:32
    +1

    Yeah right, let's pollute the planet with this completely useless antisemitic cr*p

    • KingJuf on 30/10/2024 - 14:02
      +6

      It would be anti-Semitic not to support freedom of arab semites in Gaza :)

      • liongalahad on 30/10/2024 - 15:54
        +1

        The problem is they dont want just to be free in the palestinian territories, they want to wipe Israel form the map and take its place. The two state solution is not an option for the majority of them. The one state solution with equal rights is even less an option for them, because of their hate for the Jews. What they want is a One state solution with the jews deported (the famous chant "from the river to the sea").
        So basically, no solution.

        There is no apartheid in Israel. Millions of arabs and palstininas live free and with equal rights by constituion, within Israel. The issue is controlling the people coming from Gaza and the West bank into Israel - if you dont control the border, there would be a terrorist attack in Israel every hour probably.

        • KingJuf on 30/10/2024 - 20:00
          +1

          Is that the actual problem though? They want to wipe Israel from the map and take its place? Is that not exactly what Israel have been doing to them?

          I think you have it backwards, and yes there is no apartheid in Israel, there is apartheid in Palestine including Gaza and the West Bank…

          Have you not seen peoples properties being demolished and land taken in both places? How is there any possibility for a two state solution when Israels actions clearly indicate they are all for a one state solution.

          • liongalahad on 31/10/2024 - 21:48
            -1

            @KingJuf: No. What everyone fail to understand what moves Israelis and Palestinians and their reason to fight.
            If the Palestinian put down their weapons and declared they want to collaborate with Israel to reach peace, near everyone in Israel (aside from few extremists) would embrace this and the Palestinians would have reached their own state decades ago.
            If Israel put down their weapons and declare they wanted to collaborate with Palestinians to reach peace, and withdraw completely from the territories, they would be wiped out completely and there would be a true genocide where all Israeli would be either killed or deported.

            The reason behind Palestinians, and Hezbollah, and the Iranian regime, is pure hate for the Jews. Nasrallah, the now deceased leader of Hezbollah , once said that the state of Israel was a gift from God, because God put all the Jews together in one place close to home, so every Muslim did not have to go around the world to find and kill them one by one.

            The reason behind Israelis, is to save their own from destruction. There's nothing else.

            Please listen to Sam Harris talking exactly about this stuff

            • KingJuf on 01/11/2024 - 01:04
              +1

              @liongalahad: This is what they want people to believe, Muslims hate jews and will go out to all lengths to exterminate them. The only one who done that in history was not even a muslim, and even muslims condemn him. Its the zionist government regime that would like the western world to believe that muslims hate jews.

              To the point they indoctrinate their children to hate muslims in their education system.

              Perhaps you should watch more than just from a jewish perspective.

              • liongalahad on 01/11/2024 - 01:41
                -1

                @KingJuf: Lol! go and read actual opinion polls among Palestinians and other Arab countries. See how popular is the 2 state solution in the territories. See what their ideal solution is : one state solution, an arab caliphate with no Jews. That's it.
                There's also a YouTube channel, completely unbiased, that goes in Palestine and Israel asking people questions about all sort of things - see what the average people there actually think. Of course among Israelis there are also extremists, like in any other democratic country, but the difference in view is huge, Palestinians are overwhelmingly full of hate for the Israeli (but I'm sure you'll say the channel is pro Israel because it doesn't suit your narrative)

                Also, history does not lie. Israel has never started a war unilaterally. They always reacted to open aggression or to prevent aggression (like the six day war). It's a fact which you choose to ignore.

                You are either not smart, or completely misinformed , or both, and you are proven wrong by facts. Like the 2 million Muslim (Palestinians and other arabs) happily living in Israel where they have the same rights as other people by constitution, and who quite overwhelmingly support Israel…the concept that hate for Muslims is taught in schools is just false. On the other hand, after Oct 7 you could see entire families, women, children, flocking the streets in Gaza and west bank celebrating the unprovoked massacre of Israeli civilians - can't think of anything more hateful than that.

                Now that the Hamas leadership has been wiped and one of the main goals of the war in Gaza has been achieved, Israel keeps saying they will stop the attacks the minute the hostages are released (the other goal). Yet no hostage is being released.
                So rather than printing stupid badges that serve nothing, why not pressuring the qatari government and other Arab nations to help mediate the release of the hostages, which in turn will end the war. Why not protesting in front of the embassies?
                Because you people are not interested in the end of the war in Gaza to the slightest, you just love to hate the Jews and want to see the remaining hostages sent home in a coffin.

                • KingJuf on 01/11/2024 - 01:57

                  @liongalahad: I don't believe even Israel want a two state solution, all Netanyahu wants is jewish control "from the river to the see" like his own son posted.

                  If you want to talk about hostages, there are many more palestinians being held captive without any wrong doing. Does that right a wrong? Probably not but Israel have brought this upon themselves whilst constantly taking more and more land, in fact they are actively demolishing houses as I mentioned previously in the West Bank.

                  Qatar has actually been attempting to mediate a hostage release deal, Israel still seem more interested in carpet bombing Gaza to the ground.

                  Deny it all you like the facts are out there Israel is really only interested in carpet bombing everywhere.

                  • liongalahad on 01/11/2024 - 02:03
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                    @KingJuf: Yeah ok. Your half-arsed answer is a testament to the fact you don't know much about the topic and are vastly misinformed by anti Jew propaganda. You don't go deep into the issue at all, just read a couple of titles here and there and form a superficial opinion.
                    Either that, or you have the information but actively choose to promote antisemitic views.

                    • KingJuf on 01/11/2024 - 02:19
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                      @liongalahad: Its okay, you can keep your views that Israel holds the morale upperground in carpet bombing killing innocent civilians and stealing their homes.

                      There really is no point in going deeper to the issue, its quite obvious that your one sided on all this. From all you have said regarding Israel not starting wars I still cannot see any justification for what they have and are doing currently.

                      Im not anti-Semitic thats for sure, I have nothing against jewish people. And nothing against Arab semites either. Perhaps you have anti-Semitic views of Palestinians/Arabs that you need to re-evaluate.

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