As a Parent, Do You Teach Your Children Piracy/How to Download Illegal Contents or to Buy/Rent Legally?

Sorry if the question feels too complicated, but hope it makes sense

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  • 292
    I or my parent’s taught me how to steal
  • 203
    I or my parent’s taught me only the right way

Comments

  • +1

    What are you telling your kid when they ask where these Netflix shows are coming from without the subscription?

    • -2

      My dilemma is more like: I wanted to watch this rather old movie that I can’t find in Netflix/Disney/Prime/etc. But I can see that in Google/Apple for $20 to buy or $5 to rent HD

      • +11

        So what's the dilemma exactly?
        5 bux isn't a lot to lose on a bad decision, or you can sail the high seas and if it's a good movie go and buy the BR.

      • I use Google rewards credit to buy those movies when they're on sale. I just add them to my wish list wait till the sale starts.

      • Dilemma?

  • +80

    As a Netflix/Fotel CEO, do you teach your children on how to fleece the Australian consumers to the max?

    • -8

      If I licked your boot hard enough would you give me a discount on my subscription, daddy?

  • +11

    Sorry if the question feels too complicated

    WTF?

      • +2

        Please explain 🤷

      • +4

        Seems like you can’t simplify it for yourself 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • +72

    I strongly believe you need to teach kids how to use the internet safely. That includes how to use parts of the internet that aren't corporate and have risks.

      • +22

        So what? Porn is literally a search away on the internet.

        • +14

          Sometimes you don’t even need to search it if you don’t have an ad blocker lol

        • +2

          Youtube is full of nudity with disclaimers for educational use only

          Stealing implies i got the one and only copy so to call it stealing is wrong its forgery not stealing

            • +9

              @Frankensnore: You seem to know a lot about nudity on torrent sites. You sound like a regular visitor. Do your kids know?

            • +1

              @Frankensnore: No it's not!

              First, not all torrent sites are full of porn. Secondly, any responsible internet user would need to actively select the "Porn" category.

      • +1

        So are you a responsible parent who shepherds their young kids in the right direction and away from the dangers of porn, social media and the brain-rotting apps like 'tiktok' or are you a shitty parent who uses technology as a cheap babysitting option?

  • +4

    I haven't taught them how to do it but they know I do. They think I'm a hacker haha

    • +12

      ‘I’m a bit of an expert’

      Oink

    • +8

      My kids see a shell window and think its the matrix. 🤣

      • it is a (2d) matrix, of text characters

  • +33

    I or my parent’s taught me how to steal

    Well, that's loaded.

    When you look at how content is packaged these days, consumers are really being taken for a ride.

    In most cases, you don't buy videos online and when the service provider goes out of business, your access is gone.

    I'd gladly pay for content that is:

    • DRM free
    • Reasonably priced
    • Ad-free
    • Subscription based but provides a wide range of access to content
    • +11

      The second option should be "I teach my kids how to mindlessly lick Bezos' dirty, huuum, delivery point, and feel good about my moral righteousness". Would be more balanced.

    • +4

      Also remember what Aaron Schwartz died for.

  • +4

    I teach them not to pay good money for shoddy products but if something is as good as advertised then they should pay for it. (Before the roof-raisers get here I am talking about prolefeed, not cars and shirts n' stuff. You wouldn't download a car would you?)

    • +17

      Hell yes I would download a car.

        • +9

          But then you would be depriving someone of their personal property. If you could load the car into a 3d printer and print a copy then it';s all god, you;d have a car the person who owned the original car would still have that one.

        • +15

          if stealing a car is easy and I will not be caught and everyone is doing it, then yeah i probably would steal a car

          Are they the sort of values you instill in your children?

        • +6

          steal a car

          No hit n run please. Seed back to 100%.

          • +3

            @Yummy: No seed 500% because you need to do more good deeds and spread the love. 1 to 1 is too cheap.

            • +1

              @nobro25: IP is detected & found. Reported to RIAA.

              • @Yummy: Lmao… Jokes on you ..You think I'm telling the truth? I'm like a 99% troller. Look at my comments history. Nothing I say has substance but just tried to get reaction off people. Some people think I'm a bit..and maybe I am.

        • Welcome to Queensland !

        • Wow… it's unbelievable to me someone actually thinks like this… it's like you're a sociopath who lacks any personal moral foundation…. but you're also too much of an NPC to act on it.

    • I would steal a car.

      If it was as easy as walking up to the car and touching the car and then I owned the car? Yes I would steal a car.

      And if by stealing the car, the person who owned the car ALSO got to keep their copy of the car - yes I would steal a car.

      And yeah, I would steal a car, if no one I had ever met in my ENTIRE LIFE had ever bought a car before. Would totally steal a car.

  • +45

    It's not theft it's infringement of copyright.

    It's not theft if you park illegally either. It's not theft if you speed.

    They are different things.

    It's worth teaching kids to use words carefully and properly.

    Also when putting up a poll using emotive options is dubious at best.

      • +10

        The good old days of DVD - unskippable content, rubbish warnings, along with trailers and shitty animated menus.

        • +18

          I'm downloading a car right now. Thanks Thingiverse.

        • +8

          Yes this.

          And the irony of the piracy warnings and threats - that only legit buyers had to suffer through. Lol

          • +2

            @Charity: Yes they really encouraged pirating with this. It was nicer to download a pirated version than use the original DVD.

      • +11

        So basically you're saying that you've been brainwashed by the media ads when you are in cinemas as a kid.

        And can't be arsed to understand the correct terminology or the issue.

        Well done, you!

        • -6

          Let’s put it this way. Say you develop a code at work and then something happen and you can’t continue to the delivery of it. During that time somebody took it and submit it to your stakeholders. He then get the praises for the excellent job. You don’t get any credit at all.

          Will you be ok?

          • +7

            @Frankensnore: That analogy doesn't really seem to relate. Could you explain that one a bit better?

            • -7

              @ihfree: A kid is copying the answer of another kid at exam, they both get high marks but only one scholarship spot can be given.

              At interview the copycat scored better and therefore win the spot.

              • +16

                @Frankensnore: You're not very good at analogies are you?

                • -7

                  @ihfree: Oh i think i am good enough :)

                  I really wonder why people take my question very personally

                  • +5

                    @Frankensnore: Care to explain either of those analogies?

                    Exam = movie? Kid A= Paying Customer? Kid B = Pirate with more social skills?

                • +11

                  @ihfree: This guy needs a prize for bad analogies. There's some real Homer Simpson logic going on around here.

                  By this stage I'm simply assuming that it should be a troll badge.

                  • +2

                    @rumblytangara: say what you want about the OP but I will not tolerate you disparaging Homer like this!

                • @ihfree: "i know what an analogy is! it's like a thought with another thought's hat on it"

              • @Frankensnore: In your analogy, make sure you equate that the person who downloaded/cloned the object caused no harm, injury, damage or lost revenue versus not download/cloning it.
                This is the reality.

                Now, if they would have otherwise purchased it, thats a different story. In that case, there would be a minor loss of revenue to a company. This is important because the people who would otherwise have purchased it, usually do anyway — even when pirating is an option.

                Your analogies so far appear entirely unrelated to this.

          • +5

            @Frankensnore: I'm not sure what this has to do in the slightest with the thread topic.

            Perhaps you could come up with a more relevant analogy using oranges instead?

            • -2

              @rumblytangara: Sure, there is a guy who can eat oranges, and the other who doesn’t

              • @Frankensnore: Can you do your analogies in the style of Dr Suess?

                Just testing if you respond to the prompts the other LLMs do…

              • -1

                @Frankensnore: How does me pirating stop anyone else from enjoying the media? It doesn't even deprive the person who created the media, as that assumes I would have bought it if I couldn't pirate it, instead of me just not watching it at all.

                Your exam or job analogies misunderstand that piracy doesn't rob anyone of anything and therefore can't be compared to a situation of a zero sum game where someone has to lose for someone else to win.

            • +2

              @rumblytangara: You know, boys, an ozbargain is a lot like a woman. You just have to read the manual and press the right buttons

      • +1

        The music used in the anti piracy ad was used without the the permission of the right holder. Doesn't get more ironic than that.

    • +8

      Parking illegally may introduce risk of real harm to people. Speeding much more so. Downloading a movie not really.

      It's worth teaching kids to use words carefully and properly.

      It's also worth teaching kids to have moral consideration based on actual (potential) outcomes rather than just obey rules.

      • -2

        No one died every time I sped for the last 25 years. I guess you hate freedom.

        • +2

          No one died every time I sped

          I played russian roulette with the same gun 5 times and I'm still alive. Statistically speaking I guess I should keep playing.

      • -5

        What is the harm of parking illegally?

        • +4

          Depends on the situation. Think blocking the view to a pedestrian crossing.

        • +2

          That spot in front of the ambulance station driveway is normally free, so I take it.

    • Like when to use "your" and "you're (you are)".

  • +11

    It's a weird question…
    Did your parents teach you to Pirate? (I doubt it. They probably had, and still have, no idea how to)
    Kids will work it out for themselves just like we did.

    • +1

      Mine did, especially for cracked versions of games

      • along with some viruses and what not..

    • +1

      Mine let me dub cassettes on the big stereo system. They never thought it was illegal or immoral.

  • +12

    If I was rich, I would pay for it all, why not. But pirating stuff when you aren't rich, or when you just loving pirating stuff, is perfectly fine in my book. I find people who pirate Nintendo games spend 100x as much on Nintendo stuff as the regular person. Someone pirates all the Marvel movies, they are now a valuable Marvel fan. I think corporations have a bit of a positive relationship with piracy, but of course they can't say that. How many huge name singers today made it big because they become unauthorised hits on YouTube or TikTok? In conclusion, if I made a movie I wouldn't mind if you pirated it.

    • Well Windows was notoriously allowed itself to be pirated easily until windows xp, with the aim to saturate the world with it. It is arguably win the war with other os

      • Have you pirated Windows before with the justification of "I'm helping Bill win the war"?

        • The justification is because it is free, there is a cd key for all. Didnt know back then that is not actually free

          • @Frankensnore: Or just ask Microsoft's Bing Chat for a cd key.
            You might have to reframe the question to avoid its filters.

    • +3

      This is incorrect, rich are the biggest tight arses and law evaders.

      • +1

        This is incorrect, rich are the biggest tight arses and law evaders.
        +1
        The higher you are in the food chain the bigger the crook

        You just have to look at the people who set up a charity for tax evasion
        Minderoo anyone

        • typo, -R :)

        • Do let us know if in due course if you receive correspondence from their legal team.

  • +7

    or my parent’s taught me only the right way

    How to… without getting caught?¿

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