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9000 series should be out early next decade, hodl.
hodl for 5000 series comments
Im hodling for 6000 series myself
NGL same since I have a 3080 and would like to get a similar performing low TDP card coz of the massive heat issues in my room. Already repasted and under locked it.
Im hodling myself series.
isnt monkey promo ald ended
I was like, Monkey Island?
Didn't realise, trusted mwave would remove it from their website if it was over…
let me make sure I have a 2000w psu to run this :D
Ok I need a pulse check - I get that this is high end gaming nirvana - but what's the % of gamers (at least OZB gamers) with one of these in their rig?
I am.
:D
RTX9090Ti
We finally on more than 24GB VRAM on that card?
If you accept that the Steam hardware survey is representative of PC gamers (which it probably is), then it's 0.96%
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Softw…
jesus that is actually a LOT more than i was expecting. for comparison the community favourite 3060 only has 5.36%. For every 5 3060 users there's someone with 4090. WTF.
Honestly I was also pretty surprised that one in a hundred steam users were running a 4090. Must be nice!
@johnno07: I'm on my 4090 rig right now, just browsing through OzB, I still yet have to play a game that isn't Overwatch (which my laptop runs at maximum specs).
@johnno07: They're probably doing other tasks with the 4090, and just happen to game with it as well.
Thanks, I didn't know this existed. It's actually a popular card - way more popular than 3090, which is shocking
It's expected, 3090 was not much faster than 3080, while significantly more expensive.
4090 is still not cheap but at least it's way faster than other cards, making it a better deal than 3090.
@DmytroP: Not sure I agree. Yes, 4090 is about 30% faster than 4080, while 3090 was 15% faster than 3080 (depending on workload). I wouldn't say it's way faster in either case.
However, the 3090 was in the middle of mining boom, unlocked, which made it a popular card for gamers/hobby miners.
For professional use, it's not much the speed that matters, but the extra VRAM.
Your explanation is simplistic.
@glade90: For professional use right, both 3090 and 4090 were great, I'm heavily using both for smaller ML tasks, where more expensive cards would be an overkill.
For games - 3090 MSRP was about 2x higher compared to 3080 (the real prices were different due to mining) for 15% gain, while the price difference between 4080 and 4090 was more comparable with the performance gain. I'd expect 4080 being not so great deal pushed more to 4090.
Considering Australia median income is a lot higher than most countries it could 5% here
Lots of surprises here.
Many people are playing on laptops with shitty low to medium range GPUs.
There's still much more people playing in 1080p than 1440p.
One in 30 lucky bastards has 64+ gigs of RAM
I have one but its also for AI as Nvidia are scummy and put jack shit VRAM in the lower level cards and even 24Gb is way too low these days.
Percentage is probably pretty low. I own a 4090 because I do VR sim racing, so every bit of horsepower helps. My previous 3080 rig still performed, but I'm definitely seeing less stutters now with my 4090 / 13th Gen i9 build.
My 4090 was $3,300 purchased a year ago, so theres a good discount here. But it will surely drop further when Nvidia releases the next series
looking at swapping my 3080 for a 4090 (or 5090) for similar reasons - sim racing on triples.
Big wad of cash to drop though :(
I'm still on a 3080 for VR sim racing, but it's struggling. Have to turn a lot of the graphics settings down for it to run well. Not a fan of most of the grandstands and things missing, hoping to upgrade soon.
People act like it's a popular option, but the actual stats show less than 1% of gamers own a 4090:
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
Previous flagship GPUs have been around a grand, so including inflation, this is only about double where it should be; up until recently it was closer to triple the reasonable price, even almost two years after launch (historically the flagship has fallen much earlier, they deliberately restricted supply to see how many suckers would give in and buy one for $3500).
0.96% is still higher than 0.74% for the 4080!
Though the combined total of the 4080 and 4080S is higher than the 4090. These are substantially the same card, and of course the 4090 has no Super variant so all users are consolidated into one SKU.
Almost 1% is way higher than I thought, I thought it'd be closer to .1% considering it's so niche
you gotta put it in context, 3060 tops the charts at only 5.36%.
I'm still running a 1080 Ti and checking comparison sites, a 3060 would be a downgrade. I need to go at least 40 series for it to be even worth changing cards.
It's been a preeetty long time since flagship GPUs were a grand. The 980 Ti was the last flagship to launch under a grand ($999AUD) and that was nearly a decade ago :'(
But absolutely Nvidia is milking the price-insensitive for all they are worth. I really wish they had more/better competition.
Sure, but there's only been two between that gen and this one: 2080 ti was rightly panned for being ridiculously overpriced and so didn't sell well and fell in price quickly (much more quickly than the 4090), and 3090 was in the middle of the COVID/Crypto crisis so it's price was massively inflated too.
Prior to those, it was somewhere around a grand (in today's money) since GPUs became popular decades ago.
I do, I do!
XD
Worth every cent for my very necessary pure business use. Unfortunately, since it's 100% used for work, I'd have no clue what gaming joys would come of it.
Reporting in.
I paid $3,035.04 on 22 December 2022. Seems it held it's value pretty well given it's coming up to two years of very enjoyable use.
Not just gamers.. 4090s are also popular for AI stuff
I have one. As I game on a 4k 120hz LG C3, I really like to hit the 4k as many frame rates as possible with Max graphics.
Can confirm this still doesn't happen on every game and it's a bit disappointing when it doesn't.
But will probs upgrade to a 5090 because I have a problem with chasing them high frame rates.
Depends on if you're one who wants the best GPU available. People spend similar amounts on the latest Apple Iphone as well so there is always someone able to buy this.
Need it: No, but want it: Yes.
AMD usually wins for Frame/$ but Nvidia is the one with the most frames for high $.
Me personally: Looking at the AMD 7900 GRE to drop to the 700s (it's close). Only for gaming really as my normal use: browsers, watching videos and Office productivity gets by on iGPUs and much older cards. If I ever do buy a 'flagship' it'll be on the used market years down the road (same thing I do for gaming consoles, 1 gen behind, not missing much).
I got mine on launch date, very glad to see how it's kept it's value!!
MSI SUPRIM X 4090 paired with the 32 inch 4K 240HZ OLED Alienware Monitor ($1,249 deal a couple months ago)
The card has never been higher than 65 degrees, even at full load, amazing card!
Also me and it ain't even optional to me as some games I only hit 60fps even with it.
This can't run the new 4k 240hz monitors?
Yes, those monitors are compatible.
Will run but high settings AND high fps settings won’t be a thing until the 5090
It doesn't even have a port that supports it though.
DSC works perfectly for 4k 240fps.
To be fair, they always say "top frame rates, high settings and 4k resolution" is one generation away.
I'd get one just to flex the muscles (virtual muscles that is lol)
2.8k shiet. At this rate quit gaming and take up drinking
Drinking is still more expensive.
Especially if you enjoy both!
185 pints right there
How is drinking better than gaming. You can at least keep your liver gaming.
Yes, but you have probably sold a kidney to pay for the 4090..
You haven't seen the price of drinks these days.
maybe buy aldi 4 liter wine in a bag for $ 9.9?
When’s this getting bought up again?
Thanks got two for my sli setup
I thought SLI wasn't a thing anymore?
That's the joke
Right, NVidia removed NVLink from cheaper gaming cards.
thanks for sharing! just purchased it!
I don’t know.. as a gamer I can’t justify purchasing a 4090 at this price knowing that it released 2 years ago next month, I get it, its the fastest gpu available at the moment but worst case scenario we are getting the 50 series in less than 4 months time assuming it goes according to rumours, unless it’s literally making you money (work/business) I wouldn’t be able to even consider it.
honestly GPUs are so expensive nowadays and they drop so much in value it's not something I upgrade anymore unless it's for a big game like cyberpunk.
Back when you can get a decent GPU for around $800, I was upgrading every couple years or so. Last upgrade I got was a 4070 for around 1.4k, knowing 6 months later I'd be completely outdated and dropped in value by heaps.
I don't even bother upgrading anymore now, will probably upgrade once every 6 years or so. I don't get the pricing tbh they'd make more money if they lowered it tbh.
I have a feeling that keeping the price high and selling fewer units is exactly their plan, since that will allow them to dedicate most of their production for AI and datacentre markets where they get much more profit per card.
Sad that the only reason the company exists in the first place was because of gamers. That's loyalty for you.
they should split the product lines, one type for gaming that they can make for cheaper and rrp for less, but sell more units. And anohter type of product for AI & datacentre designed for that environment and priced accordingly.
I would like to think theyd make more money overall that way. I guess they ran the numbers and gamers just dont make up a significant slice of the pie, which I find hard to believe but it is what it is..
another point I think theyve missed is the fact that if they made better value pricing and sold lot more units, it would in turn prop up the gaming industry, more/bigger better games, more funding, more gamers, all goes in a cycle which means more GPU demand in return as time goes on.
Especially when NVIDIA is itself facing a supply crisis with TSMC being essentially booked out since the AI boom.
They have to prioritise the higher-margin products until a) there’s more space at TSMC or b) NVIDIA can find another fab for their non-AI GPUs like what they did with their Ampere GPUs being manufactured at TSMC (A100) and Samsung (everything else).
Or maybe even c) the AI bubble pops and suddenly no one’s making AI chips anymore.
Absolutely, better margins on AI chips/cards vs the gamer GPUs. If they have a finite capacity (which they due as they depend on TSMC) then they're going to go for profit every time (most companies would, even AMD's 'we're not going for the high end anymore' is a sin of omission because they make more money on using that capacity for data centre and AI chips).
Gamer Devs themselves will need to target mid-range because large numbers of games need to sell and that means consoles and higher end iGPUs/Mid-range cards.
Yes, show off the demo on the Nvidia card but ultimately the mid-range is going to pay the bills for those game companies.
Back when you can get a decent GPU for around $800
My $350 970 lasted for years. I miss good value mid-range options.
5090 is coming anyway
Hoping for a price drop when 5090 comes out
I saw this card on sale at $2699 before on Amazon. The current price is not good at all.
Thanks, I will wait.
Better wait for me in 5 years for $9090 special price.
4000 series is obsolete. Okay maybe not obsolete but even the 4090 can’t keep up with what’s coming out these days.
Not sure about the 4090, but I picked up the PNY 4080 Super recently and it's the quietest card I have ever owned. Even at full load it runs around 60 degrees and it's whisper quiet.
Bought my 4090 last July and been reading the same comment to HODL. Imagine if I listened, missed out for 14 months lol. 😅😅
YOLO, buy and enjoy. 4090 will keep you going for the next 5 years. Then dispose.
especially 4090 is still selling at the same price 2 years ago
Thank you AMD lol
The trick is to buy the high end card early in its life for maximum ROI.
no kidding. imagine buying 4090 at launch and sell it now, the lost in value is probably the same as buying anything else at launch and sell it at the same time. but you enjoyed 2 yr of top perf gaming exp.
This is considered a bargain and people are complaining about the price of a ps5 pro
If you need it for productivity (all the ML etc), it's quite cheap compared to other NVidia cards.
I went from a 1080ti to one of these. But im 40 with 2 kids and have a decent job.
No idea how actual kids sub 21 are getting their folks to spot $3k for a video card. Its insnae.
Its graphics for video games. Just wild to me. I thought the 1200 for the 1080ti was wild but this is getting too much.
No idea how actual kids sub 21 are getting their folks to spot $3k for a video card
I doubt there are too many instances of this outside of regular rich kids getting rich kid things. But they are getting more than pricey video cards.
To me the alot of the fun i would have out of owning a rtx 4090 is knowing its the best of the best, but its not going to be in a few more months and its basically the same price as two years ago.
My experience of upgrading my gpus I realize I'm easy to please don't need best graphics/framerate. I got a 7900xt with a 42 inch oled zero complaints, Other then vr gaming could be better.
For my pc gaming I tend to rely on 1080 resolution a lot, but even then I'd still want iaximum FPS (by way of the best video card available + on the best hardware) even if it's overkill.
Paying for the competitive edge makes sense. For me tho I'm not competitive otherwise i wouldn't use a 42 inch 120hz oled as a monitor its just too big to be competitive. 60+ fps and im more then happy.
2k or 4k? can it handle the monke game?
I don't own monke game, but im sure it can do 4k 60+ if not I would just turn on fsr. I'm burnt out of those sort of games, my mates keep telling me to buy it hyping it up but yer nah. Been playing souls type games on the regular since 2011
It's more expensive than when I bought one year ago.
Damn that's not bad
inb4 hodl for 5000 series comments