New 1000/400 prices for nbn FTTP internet coming from Leaptel.
No contract and you don't need an ABN.
Go to Leaptel nbn and click on All plans.
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Note: these are offered as residential grade services. We're not offering any business SLAs or special service monitoring.
$50 credit for the referee (if they are not on a reduced pricing plan) & $50 credit for the referrer. The referee will receive a $50 credit on their third month invoice, unless they have obtained another promotion during the online application process. Once a referee has paid for their second month, the referrer will get a credit of $50 applied to their next invoice.
It will still be expensive.
I guess it's not for you.
Not at that price, not when later this year we'll get 1000/100 for about $120 and the new Hyperfast FTTP speeds of 2,000/200 coming soon too for home users…
@Ricktheroller: If my home currently receives 1000/100, I'll have access to 2000/200 or would that be another upgrade?
@Bruceflix: My flint 2 supports it and it was only $200. My 2Gbps line is only 135NZD/pm though so way more reasonable
@jv: Most peoples home network is not built for anything over gigabit, gigabit is fine for basically everyones home needs.
@Willy Beamish: Not sure why I got downvoted for pointing out the cost of upgrading network equipment.
gigabit is fine for basically everyones home needs.
Bookmark this and re-read it in 5 years…
@Willy Beamish: I've only just upgraded to 100/20 because I got it cheaper than I previously was paying for 50/20. I'm not home often enough to bother with anything higher. Maybe if and when I can ever work from home I might upgrade to a higher tier.
@Willy Beamish: 1gbps for downloads sure. Uploads are another story, i feel a fair few WFH folks (myself included) would like to see the uploads increased substantially.
@boredofficeworker: Absolutely we have two people WFH and upload is still painful.
We sometimes need to upload videos or large binary files the 100 up we have is painfully slow. I'll sometimes wait til I go into the physical office and the gigabit upload at work.
@Willy Beamish: I'm on gigabit and yes it is fine for everyone's home needs but personally I want that 200Mbps upload the 2000 plan comes with.
@Willy Beamish: Agreed, it would be nice if NBN increased their upload capability though, even if it's just a 2:1 ratio, so 1000:500 for residential plans. The upload speeds are so cucked in Australia
@jv: I will be waiting for 1Gbps/100Mbps for $120, but 1Gbps/400Mbps is 4x faster for upload (editing 4K/8K videos from cloud storage to share).
Unfortunately due to T(errorist) Abbott destroying the FTTP plan for Brighton Le Sands & now I have unreliable FTTN, paid $100/m for <95/19 Mbps, ping 9 (used to be 2-4) via iiNet
Unfortunately due to T(errorist) Abbott destroying the FTTP plan
🤣🤣🤣
I got FTTP earlier than planned.
@Tater: It's happening… Has already been announced…
https://www.whistleout.com.au/Broadband/Guides/NBN-2000-plan…
"there is a chance we might see them by the end of the year. "
@jv: BLS was announced couple of years ago but only for few businesses on The Grand Parade. I'm <100m away (6 units) on the corner of the FTTN box- should do bypass :(
And get a better job.
expensive is not relative measure based on income…
If you make 100k or 500k, a 12 pack of eggs sold for $10 is expensive
Have you always been this vocal about politicians and their spending or just the Labor members?
about politicians and their spending
Mainly Dan for sending our state into bankruptcy…
Thats incorrect for Kevin Rudd. Saipan (Guam) does not have any International First Class services. Only United Polaris (Intl) Business is used from HNL and a few other asian carriers that operate from China, South Korea, Japan and the Philippines.
For members of the Commonwealth, individuals are prepaid per the ATOs recommendation of expenses per the relative country, they cannot claim additional expenses per DFAT policy. Its all public information.
For most Commonwealth agencies, when workers are travelling internationally they are guaranteed a Business Class seat per their EBA. Thats paid out by the taxpayer, weather its the ATO, ASIO, CASA, DFAT ect
Kevin Rudd would have flown from Washington DC to Honolulu (or via LAX to HNL) and continued on the direct service to Guam. Its around $20,000 AUD return in Business, accommodation would depend but Commonwealth officers generally get put into very good accomidation. His expenses per the ATO are calculated, https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/pdf/pbr/td2023-003.pdf
This extends to everyone regardless of political party ((including elected members of Parliament, they do not travel First unless if the Prime Minister authorizes that (generally a member of Cabinet) can travel on Commonwealth aircraft))
Eg. Penny Wong, the Foreign Affairs' Minister flew Qatar Business per the Commonwealth Travel Policy and was mysteriously upgraded into First from SYD-DOH, thats also publicly disclosed.
Facts getting in the way of the story.
Personally pretty happy to see Assange out and going home to his family, bloke did great work making it possible to air the dirty laundry of governments that need to be held accountable for their actions.
Just hope that's the end of it and nothing happens to him now that he is in the public, dude served his near 20 year experience but I got a feeling people like you have drank far to much from the government sanctioned propaganda machine that someone will take matters too far.
@JustASmoothSkin: I've read extensively about Assange. He's many things, but a hero he ain't. Saying that, I reckon he has some kind of mental problem, so maybe that explains some of the stuff he has done or said.
We'll have to agree to disagree because I'm not going to change my mind on this.
Peace.
@R4: All good you can have your opinion, no doubt in my mind that being hunted by the US for the better part of 20 years would likely have a fairly negative effect on your mental state, and tbh to setup what he setup you definitely need to have a a certain deposition.
But whistleblowers need to exist and they need to be protected to enable others to be able to come forward. He helped shed light on some pretty nasty stuff that would not have come to light without him, with the recent "accident" and "self administered un-aliving" of the Boeing whistle blowers. It's clear they need greater protection whether it's from "themselves," "the general public" or bad actors.
@JustASmoothSkin: From what I've read, Assange's mental issues predate his legal woes. But now, legally, he's a convicted criminal and nothing can change that fact.
Party on with your opinion - each to their own. Difference makes the World go round.
@R4: "But now, legally, he's a convicted criminal and nothing can change that fact."
Laws are constantly changing, some are just and some are not so just. When laws get changed to make people who blow the whistle on shady and illegal activity criminals, it changes the negativity in being a "convicted criminal" in these cases to something that needs to be subjectively assessed.
What I'm saying is that his status as a convicted criminal doesn't mean he was doing something against the public interest, it means he was possibly doing something against the interest of those that makes the laws. The two do no always go hand in hand (public interest and laws in place).
As it was stated above, there needs to be far more protection of whistle-blowers, not less. The more we criminalise and prosecute those that are exposing bad actors, the more bad actors there will be, the more corruption there will be and the less beneficial things in general will be for the population.
@R4: I wouldn't mind seeing a bit of a debate. I've sat on the fence because I've never learned whether he was just a whistleblower, or was he disclosing state secrets?
Relative to what? Yes its expensive compared to lower speeds or other countries, but I don't believe there is a cheaper option to get 400Mbit upstream in Australia.
for a gigabit connection its not expensive my ISP charges double that. For the same FTTP connection. Its on Opticomm fiber though which s$its all over NBN lol, so you pay for the best fiber I guess, NBN you way for what you get thats why its cheap.
i'd like to buy a p
Let's be clear, NBN plans aren't cheap. The Australian public has been rinsed in the process of rolling out the NBN.
compared to opticomm fibre it is.
What's the better value alternative?
Yes
Jesus Christ that's insanely expensive.
Look at the new Starlink global pricing: Stupid E-Karen country now pays 3 times the EU price.
Not if you need 400Mbps upload. If you don't, it's not for you.
1000/400 plans are for a very niche segment of the market.
bit of a chicken and the egg thing, they're niche because of pricing
I think some people are missing the 400Mbps upload speed here
I do but Telstra claims my region is 250 down the most they can squeeze out of the dud NBN.
Currently paying 4 providers to have a round the clock working feed.
@payless69 wow, what do you do that requires the necessity of fail safe working feed?
@expertreader: If you buy and sell things that sometimes require a timely attention then loss of or unsubstantiated delays of comms are creating a huge loss.
@payless69: Who on earth needs 4 providers at once? Even large businesses usually have 2 (1 backup). If you are just buying and selling things you could easily use 4G as a backup.
If you have 4 x 250Mbps FttP services, that's why you can't go faster, that's a total of 1GB down. If you only had 1 NBN fibre service you'd get 1000/50 and even faster now and higher speeds soon.
Which technology is the 250? HFC?
What 4 technologies are your connections?
@MrMcHairyHead: 250/20 FTTP
plus the 3 mobile carriers.
you would think that fibre would always win in latency.
Sometimes even Vodafail wakes up quicker.
@payless69: All FttP services have 1000/50 available, so if Telstra won't provide it others will.
Fibre always wins on latency, usually around 2 to 3 ms, 4G and 5G are 25 to 40 ms, not even close.
@skillet: Not on wifi 6 and 7. I just did a wifi speed test on mine and I get a total of 4ms, so it's only adding an extra 1ms.
The same applies if you are broadcasting your 4G/5G over WiFi.
Perhaps it's a niche market but those that want/require that upload capacity will be happy with this price. Of course, cheaper would still be better…
will be happy with this price
Many would not be happy, but paying it reluctantly….
Ok, they will be happier than paying higher prices from competing RSPs
I agree with that statement…
(but it's still expensive…)
Yes, a lot of money for non symmetric speeds. You are right! Here we are in the middle of 2024 they ask $180 for that.
tell them they're dreamin
Show me a better price with the same upload.
Considering the small office I worked in a while back used to pay $700 for 10Mbps/10Mbps about 18 years ago, this doesn’t seem so bad. You’d buy this plan for mostly the high upstream speeds.
an additional 300up for 80 dollars is pretty good imo.
As long as they have big enough cvc in your area it’s good
lol, I livestream baby. Need all dem uploads.
Would you like a trial link?
a trial link?
No, the jury found me innocent…
Isn't CVC is gone now. Always was an artificial constraint built by bureaucrats.
Also I'm seeing $230pm, where is $180?
CVC is gone on 100/20 and faster speed tiers. CVC still exists on 12/1, 25/5, 25/10 and 50/20. CVC will be removed by July 1st 2026.
1000/400 $180/m pricing starts July 1st according to the CIS.
@orangecarpet-22 it says "in 5 days" above the title?
an additional 300up for 80 dollars is pretty good imo.
No reason for it to cost much more than download speed… It's the same cable.
We should give everyone uncapped speeds and watch what happens.
Hard drive demand probably temporarily increase until people realise they don’t have time to consume the content they now acquired.
What will happen? It's not like fiber wears out the more you use it.
@MrMcHairyHead: I heard there’s only so many Bits and Bytes to go around. After we run out we need to go drill for more.
@MrMcHairyHead: The tubes get clogged.
It was a flippant comment that I didn't really think through, although mostly I think a lot of variability in network speed and maybe some instability. We're all still capped by what our hardware and local connection can deliver, then local area, then broader areas. I expect with no caps anywhere in the network you'd quickly find out there's a lot of bottlenecks, random servers start going down as a result of being essentially DDOS'd.
Limiting speeds give a general idea on what hardware is needed to support the network (thus the logic on CVC, limit an area and if it needs to be increased the money is there to do so).
LOL it’s been like this since the inception of the internet.
LOL it’s been like this since the inception of the internet.
No… Mainly in Australia…
It doesn't need to be that way…
@jv: I agree, it shouldn’t be this way and I also think that you should show some initiative and make a bid for Optus if it’s still on sale (I don’t think they’ve priced it too expensive)
Once acquired, set an example for every other ISP and not only slash prices but increase each tiers speeds. Please do all of Australia a solid. I believe in you.
It really doesn't make sense from a technological standpoint when we're talking symmetrical fibre, it's all profit driven nothing more. ISPs buy international bandwidth by the megabit in both directions, every mbit in download they buy also gives them one mbit in upload. There isn't a shortage in upload capacity, it's all down to charging businesses more who typically need the higher upload bandwidth.
It's a limitation of the current FTTP GPON tech used as well which share I believe 2.4gbps down and 1.2gbps up among a number of users. Given that the number of people using uploads significantly is likely still pretty low, that might be a case to have less asymmetrical plans but there's still some risk there.
And of course, the rest of the multi-technology mess is even more asymmetrical so they might not want too much focus on FTTP specific plans until most are upgraded.
If you need to upload content in 4K, this is a good deal.
Or OF…
Why not both?
Never said where the 4K content was being uploaded to be fair… ;)
Reporting in.
Wow, that is expensive…