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2024 Volkswagen Golf GTI with Luxury and Sound & Style Packs $59,990 Driveaway (Was $62,690+ORC) @ Volkswagen Dealers

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1 June 2024 1pm update: We requested and received a call back from VW. The $59,990 driveaway price is obtainable only through the customers making direct contact with a VW dealer via telephone or in-store visits. — Mod.

Ok gas guzzling carcenogenic creating fume lovers! Avoid the green washing child labour lithium, cobalt and manganese mining EV trends and happily overtly destroy the planet with your brand new Golf GTI with bonus packages that include very vegan-unfriendly leather seats at a new special drive away price!

The $6600 worth of extra equipment combines with the waived on-road costs to save upwards of $8000 in some states and territories, given the drive-away price is being offered nationally, with Sydney-based customers scoring a $7990 discount by the time the GTI is in their garage.

Honestly it's not a deal for me, having now realised that even a cheap and nasty Chinese EV/hybrid has an unmatched price to performance ratio that even the good ol'Golf GTI can't match (e.g. Family friendly BYD Sealion Premium 0-100kmh in 5.9s vs shoebox Golf GTI 6.4s). But I'm sure the last run of ICE performance cars/hot hatches will be seriously collectable and appreciate in value if looked after - just have no idea how you'll fuel them in ~10yrs time. Just look at the prices of some ancient Evos or WRX STIs fetching more than they were brand new.

More details:
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/fully-loaded-2…

Mod note: We are unable to obtain this price from VW's car configurator. On 30 May 2024 the quoted driveaway price was $67,980. On 1 June 2024 the quoted driveaway price was $62,720. Our guess is this EOFY sale is not yet active.

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  • +108

    I was on the fence until I saw “vegan-unfriendly” and now I’m buying 4

    • +4

      Don't forget to get 5% discount off OW's price match!

    • +1

      That'll show them!

    • I like speed so if it can't do 0 to 100km/h in 3 seconds flat, its not that good lol.

  • +8

    Never heard of the ICE tag being used on OzBargain before?

    • +11

      Well there's lots of EV haters on ozbargain and I'm impartial. I'd happily drive a ICE hot hatch or EV gifted to me :)

        • +44

          Internal Combustion Excellence

        • +9

          Not recommended consuming it while driving.

        • -1

          r/outoftheloop or r/eli5

        • +2

          : frozen water, usually found on frozen lakes in the freezer etc.

      • -1

        EV haters

        Meaning people who don't subscribe to the church of EV…
        Some people are actually in the middle, but when you leap so far left then everything starts to look far right…

        • +1

          Some people are actually in the middle

          They wouldn’t be the aforementioned EV haters then

          • +1

            @crentist:

            They wouldn’t be the aforementioned EV haters then

            No, but my point was they are incorrectly labelled as such by the zealots.

            • @1st-Amendment: And surely there's no way that zealots to the church of EV could be some sort of incorrect label

              How ironic would that be lol

              • @crentist:

                And surely there's no way that zealots to the church of EV could be some sort of incorrect label

                Maybe, maybe not. The only way to tell is you could provide examples so we could evaluate them. Here's one of mine: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/15310420/redir

                I get this all the time. Ask a question about the practicality of EV's and get labelled anti-EV, or EV hater.

                How ironic would that be lol

                It would be ironic if you could support your claim with data. Can you do that or is it just speculation?

                • +1

                  @1st-Amendment:

                  It would be ironic if you could support your claim with data. Can you do that or is it just speculation?

                  You mean the definition of irony? I didn't make any other claim.
                  My data is your 2 previous posts, where you redefine the term "EV haters" as an incorrect label for anyone right of "people who don't subscribe to the church of EV" or "zealots", from anyone who has leapt so far to the left.

                  The irony is that this definition can logically work both ways, where those "zealots" may be an incorrect label for anyone left of "EV haters", from anyone who has leapt so far to the right.

                  • @crentist:

                    You mean the definition of irony? I didn't make any other claim.

                    Well you did. You implied that the person making the "zealots to the church of EV", ie me would be being ironic by engaging in the same incorrect labeling. My argument is the I have not used it incorrectly, I gave a real world example to demonstrate this, therefore it is not ironic. ie label matches reality, which is different from label not matching reality.

                    My data is your 2 previous posts

                    How exactly? Be specific.

                    The irony is that this definition can logically work both ways

                    It can, but has it in this case? No evidence has been provided so far…

                    where those "zealots" may be an incorrect label for anyone left of "EV haters",

                    May be incorrect, but actually is correct based on the evidence I provided.

                    Here's a quote: "My issue is with idiots who won't even consider an EV" and " If you can't see how crazy this makes you look, you are clearly brainwashed." and "Then your friend (who owns a Tesla and has had range issues) is an idiot"

                    Does that sound like a neutral position to you? 'If you don't agree with my position on EVs you are an 'idiot' and 'brainwashed''. This does not qualify as zealotry to you?

                    On contrast, do you think anything I have written here makes me an 'EV hater'? I mean I own an electric bike, tool chest full of battery tools, have solar and Tesla PW, hardly the poster child of anti-electric/battery technology. I choose not to buy an EV because of the many limitations which don't suit my lifestyle. I'm sure others in similar positions.

                    from anyone who has leapt so far to the right.

                    What have I said do you think qualifies as far right?

                    • @1st-Amendment: In the original post the author claims to be impartial but uses the term "ev haters" to describe some posters on ozbargain. You responded with "Meaning people who don't subscribe to the church of EV…
                      Some people are actually in the middle, but when you leap so far left then everything starts to look far right…" which, although you used the general you your rhetoric is clearly from one that believes they've been unfairly labelled an ev hater and are in fact impartial. The irony is that both you and the original poster think you are impartial and yet by your characterization of the non impartial position you betray the same partiality that you accuse the original poster of. I hope this isn't an unfair reading of your post.

                      • @moist:

                        The irony is that both you and the original poster think you are impartial

                        Yes, the key difference is that against me, the partiality is yet to be proven. I have demonstrated it for the some others, thereby substantiating my claims, no-one is yet to demonstrate it with me.

                        and yet by your characterization of the non impartial position you betray the same partiality

                        Well I disagree, because all I have done is accuse another party of partiality AND backed that up with evidence, so it is valid
                        Simply labeling someone as partial does not automatically mean you are also partial for doing so. It could be that an impartial person has simply identified some partiality and called it out. I mean, we all know that EV zealots exist, so there are cases when calling it out is still within the realms of impartiality.

                        Football zealots exist, If you see one and call them out, does that also make you now a partial observer?

                        that you accuse the original poster of

                        The key difference is label vs reality. One case used a label with no evidence (incorrect labeling), I used a label with supporting evidence (correct labeling). It is not impartial, nor ironic to do this since they are two different things.

                        I hope this isn't an unfair reading of your post.

                        It's a good honest explanation which is refreshing.

                      • @moist: Just adding another example which appeared while typing this: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/15326230/redir

                        I provided the factual sales figures on Hondas and got called a 'Honda fanboy' for doing so.

                        Labels without evidence, that is the important point here. Had I said 'Honda are the best, you're an idiot if you don't buy one' then the label would be valid and the accuser still remain impartial. ie label with evidence vs label without evidence. Two different things.

                    • @1st-Amendment:

                      You implied that the person making the "zealots to the church of EV", ie me would be being ironic by engaging in the same incorrect labeling. My argument is the I have not used it incorrectly

                      I was implying that defending one extreme label by drawing on comparison to another extreme label is incorrect, and the middle ground is neither.

                      The definition of "EV haters" that you took umbrage to was in comparison to the actual middle, ie someone "impartial" who would "happily drive a ICE hot hatch or EV". Not those in the "EV church".

                      How exactly? Be specific.

                      I was specific. I quoted you several times.

                      Does that sound like a neutral position to you?

                      No, but they sound a bit better when you include some more of the context. eg:
                      - "My issue is with idiots who won't even consider an EV (not due to merit, but scare tactics)".
                      - "If you can't see how crazy this (-insisting that they are a bad purchase to actual, satisfied owners-) makes you look, you are clearly brainwashed."
                      - "Then your friend (who owns a Tesla and has had range issues) is an idiot (because they chose a car unsuitable for their circumstances)"

                      On contrast, do you think anything I have written here makes me an 'EV hater'?

                      As above, it was due to your redefinition of that extreme label as truly moderate, by contrasting with the other extreme.

                      That thread you've linked doesn't help your case. It starts mostly fine, but you made it combative from the line "Or maybe the issue is that you think you should decide what other people need?", which hadn't been implied.

                      Then it just devolves into more extreme language and hyperbole to shadowbox an argument that no one has made: "The idea that EV's fix everything is just preposterous and easy to demonstrate."

                      • -1

                        @crentist:

                        I was implying that defending one extreme label by drawing on comparison to another extreme label is incorrect,

                        I agree that this is your argument. I am saying it is correct WHEN one side is clearly an extremist and the other is unproven to be.
                        Extremists exist. Simply calling them out does not automatically make you an extremist too. (It could do, but connection is not automatic)

                        I quoted you several times.

                        You quoted me using labels, but ignored the parts where I supported those labels with evidence thereby making the labels valid. Unlike the OP

                        but you made it combative from the line "Or maybe the issue is that you think you should decide what other people need?",

                        You find questions combative? Interesting… Where I'm from this is how rational discussions are had.

                        an argument that no one has made

                        Well apart from multiple governments that have policy dictating that very thing. NSW has one, Victoria has one, ACT has one, the UK has one, California has one. Maybe you aren't as aware as I am of the cult of EV? It definitely exists.

                        • +1

                          @1st-Amendment:

                          You quoted me using labels, but ignored the parts where I supported those labels with evidence thereby making the labels valid.

                          I didn't quote you using labels. I quoted your use of labels.
                          But if your issue is that people keep calling you an "EV hater", linking more examples where you've been called this doesn't exactly work in your favour. Especially when the shared evidence makes you sound worse, as I explained as I explained in my previous message, where I did NOT ignore the evidence you presented.
                          And especially not where the initial label against you was retracted as a potential misread, then given reason to double-down after further discussion.

                          You find questions combative? Interesting… Where I'm from this is how rational discussions are had.

                          I find putting words into peoples mouth to make accusations combative.

                          Ignoring that you just did that again here, that "question" you were asking over there was, in context, an accusation.
                          Context being a post that considered the differences in people's actual vs perceived needs.
                          Accusation being that asking that question meant they "think that is ok to tell others what car they have to have"

                          Well apart from multiple governments that have policy dictating that very thing. NSW has one,

                          $3000 subsidies? That's hardly a dictatorship. Nor a claim that "EV's fix everything".

                          Extremists exist. Simply calling them out does not automatically make you an extremist too.

                          Where did you see one? The poster who said they'd happily drive anything?

                          • -1

                            @crentist:

                            But if your issue is that people keep calling you an "EV hater", linking more examples where you've been called this doesn't exactly work in your favour.

                            So evidence is not evidence? You'll have to explain how that works in more detail…

                            I find putting words into peoples mouth to make accusations combative.

                            Once again, what evidence do you have for this? The last example you gave was merely a question. Questions do not fit the definition of an accusation. 'You did this' is an accusation. 'Did you do this?' isn't.

                            that "question" you were asking over there was, in context, an accusation.

                            I think we're getting to the crux of the problem here. If you are offended by questions, then that is all you. I was taught that only people with something to hide feared questions. The truth never fears questions. Asking questions is how you have rational discussions. Here's a primer if you want to learn more about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

                            $3000 subsidies?

                            Hard to tell if you are be deliberately facetious here. https://www.energy.nsw.gov.au/nsw-plans-and-progress/governm….

                            Where did you see one?

                            Back to the start. Your original claim was "surely there's no way that zealots to the church of EV could be some sort of incorrect label"

                            To which I replied 'maybe, maybe not, the only way to tell is to analyse examples', which I then gave you an example of someone labelling people as 'idiots' and 'brainwashed' for not buying EVs.

        • usually EV haters are usually just Wa$kers. But yeah, sure, I am sure your explanation is valid in a twisted kind of way.

        • It's the other way around. The big leap was right. Australia use to be a proud mixed socialist/capitalist society. Now we've been sucked down the trump/Murdoch hole

          • @Micsmit:

            Australia use to be a proud mixed socialist/capitalist society

            Still is isn't it? What do you think has changed and when?

            Now we've been sucked down the trump/Murdoch hole

            What hole? Are you confusing media BS clickbait with reality? Because if you turn off the media, how has Trump changed your life? Be specific.
            I think you'll find that if you switch off the media, 90% of your perceived problems will instantly disappear. Try it and see how you go. What have you got to lose?

            • @1st-Amendment: Making an awful lot of assumptions from a brief comment mate.

            • @1st-Amendment: Sounded a bit like a soft triggered response.

            • @1st-Amendment: The Murdoch papers I. The capital cities were a big part in shifting the public zeitgeist to the right in the 00's . The Deunionisation, insecure work, deregulation, privatisation and aspirationalism it propagandised have had a marked effect on your average Australians outlook. I work with dozens of blokes in a manufacturing setting that will tell you outright that a Labor government is against them. Would you have heard that said in 70's or 80's ?

              • @Micsmit: Secondly tumpism fostered by sky news and Murdoch papers as well as social media has created a post truth vacuum of shared public sentiment. Did you talk to anyone during the pandemic ? Did you hear the shit that was coming out of people's mouths? Pure illiterate fantasy's about imagined oppression.
                You find plenty of "Aussies " these days who think that "facism wouldn't be that bad".

                You won't find many people with less of a intravenous drip of media than me. I don't go on social media and I don't watch tv other than a bit of sport. Just talk to the people around you and get off of 4chan brother.

                • @Micsmit: You responded 4 times to one post, so I'll condense them all here.

                  Making an awful lot of assumptions from a brief comment mate.

                  What assumptions? I merely asked some questions. Question are not assumptions.

                  The Murdoch papers

                  So you know enough that one version of events is biased, but haven't joined the dots that they all do it?

                  The capital cities were a big part in shifting the public zeitgeist to the right in the 00's

                  You mean when The Labor party won the Federal election? That was a 'shift to the right'? Interesting theory…

                  The Deunionisation, insecure work, deregulation, privatisation and aspirationalism it propagandised have had a marked effect on your average Australians outlook.

                  Since average wealth increased to the highest levels in the world during that time, it's safe to say that the effect is not a bad one.

                  I work with dozens of blokes in a manufacturing setting that will tell you outright that a Labor government is against them. Would you have heard that said in 70's or 80's ?

                  'Dozens' is not a sufficient sample size. And did it ever occur to you that they might be correct? Some people are waking up to the fact that corrupt middlemen have been gaming the system for decades and that we all better off without them.

                  And you forgot to answer my question, how has Donald Trump affected your life?

                  Secondly tumpism fostered by sky news and Murdoch papers

                  As I said, if you know the media is bad for you, why do you bother giving them any attention?

                  You find plenty of "Aussies " these days who think that "facism wouldn't be that bad".

                  Could you name one? Can you define this 'fascism'? Because I see this word used frequently but no-one seems to be able to define it. It's almost like it means 'I heard an opinion I disagreed with and can't deal with it!'

                  Just talk to the people around you

                  I do, and the only ones that rant about Trump/Murdoch etc are the ones glued to media. They swallow team A complaining about team B and can't work out that they are the sucker in the game. Switch off and all of these problems disappear overnight.

                  and get off of 4chan brother

                  Eh? Is that something to do with the 4 replies you made to my one post?

                  • @1st-Amendment: How do you caption the quotes like that in the reply box?

                  • @1st-Amendment: If I have to define facism to one more keyboard warrior who's never studied modern history I'll shat

                    • @Micsmit:

                      If I have to define facism

                      Well you can't even spell the word, so…

                      to one more keyboard warrior who's never studied modern history I'll shat

                      I know what it means and I even know how to spell it. I'm just curious if you do too? Since you were the one that said 'You find plenty of Aussies these days who think that "facism wouldn't be that bad".' Who exactly? Where are these 'plenty of Aussies' espousing the political values of early 20th century Italian politics?

                      How do you caption the quotes like that in the reply box?

                      You put a right arrow bracket at the start of your quote. It's keyboard warrior 101….

      • I believer EV haters are a nice word for just W$nkers. but sure lets called them "ev haters" :D

      • I don't think it matters if you like a certain type of car people should just be happy for you. not Jealous or bitchy about it.

    • -1

      The EV fascists throw it around as some sort of pejorative targeting those who aren't "enlightened" enough to also drive an electric depreciation machine.

      • +1

        electric depreciation machine

        ICE vehicles don't depreciate?

        • Not as quickly. It'll be interesting to see the resale values on Tesla and newer entrants to the EV market in the coming 3-5 years. If the UK is anything to go by, it'll be rough.

          • +1

            @Ham Dragon: Agreed, but I think what we're seeing with EVs is the technology simply coming down in price as it matures.
            Which makes existing buyers early adopters, who are more likely to suffer sharply over the next few years as the technology becomes even cheaper, and we start seeing EVs at $30k, then $20k, or wherever the floor price ends up.

            But this will hit ICE cars very hard too. These aren't completely separate categories. They're all vehicles, with different applications.
            Anyone selling their used car in a metro area in 5 years is going to take a huge hit, no matter what it is.

      • I thought I read somewhere it's just the used car market coming back to earth after COVID overvaluations?

      • stereo typing again? its like saying all germans are nazi's is that true also?

        • Why does "nazi's" get an apostrophe but not "germans"?

          Also, no.

          • @Ham Dragon: well if it was the first world war we would say "a good German is a dead one", but because we had WW2 the 2nd statement is more relevant for the stereo typing example.

  • +2

    Bargain…

    • I believe the sites called Ozbargain but you got half of it right.

  • +76

    I remember when the GTI used to be $39,990 drive away.

    • +8

      2 Door Mk 7.5 was 34,990 - I test drove one and was pretty close to putting a deposit down

      • +6

        i had to google it, but quickly found a drive.com.au review of indeed the mk7.5 golf 2 door for $37,490 +ORC, so not far off to be far..

        oh pre covid, how i miss you.

      • That GTI Clubsport(40 Years)was my dream car back then. How time flies.

      • +1

        Me too! Was very close but went for an M135 at the time. No regrets :)

    • +9

      I was about to say, 60k is pretty much Golf R pricing??

      • +3

        MK7.5 R was going for $55K DA around 2019 when they had deals but as with many cars, prices went up significantly. GTI Originals (2dr) manuals were about $38K DA pre 2019. VW regularly had deals where they covered a lot of the DA costs.

        • +1

          Yeah I understand everything went up post COVID, but a 50% increase is a bit much. It's no wonder I hardly see these new models on the road anymore.

          • +1

            @atlas: Worst part is they got worse with quality of materials and quality of technology, the new interface feels and looks cheap (think early gen android interfaces).

            On paper performance is much higher, but reliability and quality of finishes is a big concern.

          • @atlas: Closer to 30-33% increase if you are comparing 4dr with DSG prices. I think 4dr Mk7.5 GTI DSG were over $45k in 2019. No point comparing 2 dr manual to a 4dr DSG.
            30% is similar to some other cars increases and not the highest. Toyota 86 had bigger price increases.

        • +1

          I got the 2018 Golf R, i have to admit, i was very underwhelmed after a few weeks

      • yeh paid about 65k (i think) drive away for my 7.5 wolfsburg edition fully optioned. No dealer discount cuz we wouldnt compromise on spec / colour and there were none available in aus, so had to wait a few months for delivery.

    • +2

      And they looked better too!

    • +2

      I still can't believe how expensive the Polo GTI is now. Used to be the cool little cheapy hot hatch

      • +2

        Bought my 2013 Polo GTI for 26 onroad, theyre like 46 now..

    • They have to amortise the cost of their loss leading EVs over all the cars they can actually sell.

    • I remember when Golfs were cool :D

  • +1

    When I bought my golf r…. I thought hmm its not much more from the GTI. is that still the case?

    • +16

      $76k for R now. Not worth it IMO

      • +3

        Yeah definitely. Save yourself 2.5k and get the Civic Type R. King of the hot hatches

        • King of the bloody big hot hatches bordering on family sedan size.

          FTFY.

        • Unless you need 5 seats

        • +4

          $78.5k for a Civic is insane.

      • -1

        That's absurd. I have an R, which I always thought was underpriced, but not to that extent…

      • +3

        No manual option anymore.. so not worth it (IMO).

      • That is actual insanity for what is essentially a budget commuter vehicle with go fast bits.. Id expect an Arteon R line for that price.

      • Yeh when I bought mine the difference was less than $10k. Well worth the AWD etc

      • yeah you can get a model 3 performance for 80k drive away now, its not worth the price at 76k

        • Even a BYD Seal Performance is $74,385.14 drive away here in Perth apparently.

          Reviews are very good (8.6/10 Car Expert)

    • $76,462

      • +2

        Shoot. In 2021 paid $59k for new “R” 7.5. Same as the current GTI

        • I paid 51k for my 7.5 R (was the “bare bones” version).

          I wish I hadn’t sold it :( . I drive a Kodiaq and Toyota Blade now

        • Yeh the GTI was like $50 or so.

  • +2

    How many eneloops can I carry with this?

    • At least one.

    • Golfs are notorious for having huge boot space. Better than most medium SUVs

  • +3

    [ICE]

    Adelaide it's the world capital on that one.

  • +1

    You can get a Subaru WRX Club Spec for less.
    https://www.subaru.com.au/wrx

    • +12

      Surprised they’re not giving them away for free as the styling is horrendous on the latest gen WRX.

      • +1

        Most revolting car design of the last few y years I reckon, and I've loved WRX styling forever. Wtf were they thinking

    • go drive that wrx and let me know what you think, that and the old sti both cars i wish i hadnt even gone to test drive. - definition of meh

      • +1

        Never meet your heroes?

        • Not even a hero, I had a 2004 wrx back in 2008/2009 that thing was awesome. But had a bunch of cars since then and yea I was just saddened how meh both of them were and how fall they have fallen :(

  • +31

    $65k for a GTI.

    Phuck that.

    • +1

      Mission impossible, hey Tom 😜

      • No Response
        ….
        Ghost Protocol

    • -1

      The issue with the GTI is poor value for the premium price.

      Plus the fact that larger, quicker, cheaper and better equiped EVs are available. For example the Model 3 is cheaper and the technological aids in that car dwarfs the VW, as it does in performance and equipment.

      • -6

        Comparing apples to oranges.

        • +24

          Not really, he is comparing cars with cars

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