Price dropped to an all time low, beating my previous post.
LR and Performance price remains unchanged.
Prices above exclude on-road costs (varying per state).
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Haha Mazda, sells less than 50 cars.a month per stealership
How long did you wait for the car to arrive?
The less Rangers and wank tanks on the road, the better.
At least the WankPanzer won't be coming here
Absolutely, it will take a full 2-3 to see the full impact of interest rate rises. Consumer spending will drop and there will be bargains to be had for people with a bit of cash flow.
Heard of numerous Ford dealerships who have an oversupply of Rangers now.
Go to any Toyota dealership, packed to the brim with Hiluxes as well.
Anecdotally, a few of my tradie mates are no longer intending to refresh their cars, the Covid stimulus is well and truly done. Frankly, too much was handed out and we are all going to pay for it one day with taxes.
Frankly, too much was handed out and we are all going to pay for it one day with taxes.
-Well said! But we are already paying it with high inflation and high interest rates. Food, services, insurance, real-estate, cars and nearly everything has gone up 20% to 30% and in some cases even 50%.
It is the car industry in general. Even BYD was down over 40% last quarter. The economic scenario around the world is uncertain and job losses abound.
BYD was actually up YOY, which should be the metric to compare since end of year is always a sales rush.
Industry as a whole is doing badly due inflation. Tesla is the only (non Chinese) player who have enough margins available to discount and still be profitable. Battery prices have also plummeted, which has helped.
Regarding battery prices:
In one year, the cost has more than halved. In February 2023, the cost was 110 euros per kWh. By February 2024, it had dropped to 51 euros. Soon, the cost is expected to be down to 40 euros.
"Three years ago, $40/kWh for LFP was an aspirational number for 2030 or 2040. Now it will become a reality in 2024!"
When can I see home storage to decrease like this.
https://diysolarforum.com/forums/diy-lifepo4-battery-banks.2…
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/3vw48qkr
Seems doable but not legal if you want to be on the grid
Chinas largest battery manufacturers have managed to reduce the price of batteries by 30% each year for the last few years. What exactly did you expect EV vehicle prices to do?
not really, tesla stock doesn't sit around for long, they really don't have a selling issue
price adjustment is probably a mixture of currency rate changes and potentially improved byd price competitiveness against the seal to shore up market dominance
but selling units, doing badly - not really a thing for tesla, they make around 3m cars a year and yet only have around 10k units in global stock, all models combined, that is not a company doing badly, least of all an auto manufacturer
You don't know if Tesla managed to save on costs —— like firing people! :D
Long range models are a good $10k more expensive than the base models. Is it really worth it for the extra 100km range?
also more performance 0-100 so yeah they are worth the extra
And all wheel drive
And better audio system…
How often are you flooring it 0-100 in your daily commute?
I don't understand this stat posted as something that is important to the average driver…
Bruh… live a little. Torque feels good.
When you have instant torque and basically free fuel. 90% of the time on traffic lights.
I swear I'm not racing, I just like getting pushed into the seats
I am hoping they drop the price on the LR as well.
Better acceleration and really keen on the better stereo. Not worth the extra 10k tho, especially as Standard gets QLD gov rebate as well, so more like 16k diff in QLD
All Model Y have the same sound system. It's only the 3 RWD that does not get the Premium Audio.
Any chance you can point me to where that info is? I couldn't find it anywhere. Thanx.
Edit - nevermind, I found it…on the order page, under the "interior" section…
You don’t need the extra range 95% of the time and depending on where you live and drive it usually won’t matter
The standard car is great. It’s fast enough and has good range
I'm considering the long range for the dual motors to help with any towing. The range will help but agree with your point on the base Y.
I wouldn't i beleive they use different battery chemistry with the long range and performance.
Yeah LFP in base model Y vs NMC in LR and Performance.
I'm not across the differences (beside the chemistry) but all I know from what I read is the LFP doesn't have to be "managed" as much (i.e. preferably keep to 80-90% charge).
LFP is more durable, with less need to baby (can charge to 100%) and has less degradation, NMC is more energy dense hence keeps weight down for performance models and allows greater performance that you see in performance models
But It's $15k more expensive;
You really don't get 100km more range unless tripping because you should only charge to 80% for daily which is on par with RWD which you "can" (at least more often) charge to 100%.
People usually buy LR models for higher performance and some people are adamant they perform better on wet weather (but I don't think so with way more responsive traction control)
The golden rule was don't sell out your existing customers.
Smashed that one :)
That's for trying to maintain marketshare for an established producer. Tesla has been growing so fast the new customers are much more numerous than existing customers, which shifts the priority somewhat.
If you are rebuying a car from the same manufacturer you get the discount on the new car anyway
That's what everyone does. Especially banks/lenders.
Feels like a firesale. Don't they want these to be premium cars?
People have finally started working out that they're not, and with Elon working VERY hard to piss off the main sales demographic in the US, thus you end up with Tesla having to rent massive abandoned shopping mall car parks to store the oversupply (DESPITE slashing production).
The price is gonna keep falling.
If all EVs were the same price which car should I get?
probably a Porsche Taycan
What sort of question is this???
Have to agree with you there, for someone so smart he is slowly eroding his own business by making purchasing one of his vehicles an ideological decision. Buying Twitter (I refuse to call it X) or should I say being forced to buy Twitter (as he tried to back out) was one of his stupidest decisions.
They aren't premium or luxury cars. They are economy cars, look at their barebones interiors.
I would disagree (not neg, just disagree). Both me and my folks are currently shopping for a new car, so have test driven quite a few different brands, models and segments, and I was pleasantly surprised with the interior in the Tesla. Take this with a grain of salt. I am currently driving a nearly 40 year old landcruiser and have just recently sold a current Hilux, so I am not exactly used to premium interiors. My wife's Rav4 cruiser is as premium as we have had.
In your opinion, what is lacking in the Tesla?
As a summary of vehicles we test drove the following:
BMW X1 electric. Interior was pretty amazing, great sound system and very comfortable seats with masage function. Like really amazing interior. I felt like I was royalty and this was the 1 series. Drove nicely, was zippy and stable. Range was shocking for a $100k car. 400kms
BMW X2 electric. Front interior was amazing, as above. Back seats were ridiculously uncomfortable and hard to get into due to sloping roof. Anybody over 160cm would be very uncomfortable. This immediately ruled it out for us to even drive it so didn't bother with the drive. $100k car.
BMW X3 xDrive30d. Huge interior, but feeling a bit dated. The dated was actually a positive as there were lots of physical buttons, but it lacked the modern look the new X1 and X2 had, with how crisp the infotainment was, the seats and features. Huge interior and huge boot. Drove great. Bit too big for what we needed and too expensive. $114k
Volvo ex30. Funky looking from outside. Nice finishes inside. Lots of colour and material options. Have to pay extra for electric seats, which is a must in our case due to different sized drivers. Really really cramped car, and the first electric vehicle where i really felt that the seat was too close to the floor. My knees were really high up due to low seating position. Sound bar stereo was a bit disappointing in the back seats. Bit quicker than LR 3 but 7k more expensive. Only drove the single motor car, and it drove really nicely, but due to the small size didn't want to waste time by driving the quicker car. $77k
Polestar 2 long range dual. Felt nice and premium up front. Liked the display and dash. Good range. Have to pay extra for electric seats. Felt more cramped in the back than the BMW and Tesla. Drive was nice. 77k driveaway v 70k for a similarly spec Tesla
VW Tiguan R. Bit disappointing inside wise. Interior did feel premium but still looked a bit old fashioned. Didn't feel much more updated than my old MKV Golf Gti or our more recent 2022 Polo Gti. Good space though, good stereo and huge boot. 78k but slower than a Tesla LR.
VW Troc R. Really cramped in the back. Front end felt much more dated than even the Tiguan. Sounded great and was really really fun to drive. 65k
BYD Atto 3. Drove nicely but I hate, and I cannot understate this, hate the interior look. Didn't bother much after that.
Kids came on all the test drives and their pick was the Tesla 3 LR. Predominantly I would say due to the back screen, but also because the back vents were really strong on the Tesla, rear outward seats are heated and the amount of space they had. Plus they can bluetooth their controllers to play games on longer trips.
For me and wife, front was really comfortable, lots of space. The lack of stalks is annoying, as is the lack of a heads up display, but it didn't annoy me as much as I thought it would. Back boot was good size and I like the frunk for beach days or similar, to store wet clothes. The range and performance of the car were really impressive.
Most likely going with the Tesla 3 LR, as with the recent price drop in QLD, it's 70k driveaway if we pick black colour, and eligible for 6k EV rebate, so $64k
Have not driven the BYD Seal yet, so that is the last remaining car on the check list as it seems similar in price and specs, but appearance wise, I prefer the look of the Tesla both inside and outside.
The beemers do have really great interiors. Personally I don’t like huge screens dominating the interior and prefer tactile buttons and switches.
@Brick Tamland: Agree, which is why we liked the X3.
But for the price of the 3 LR, I haven't found much that has better features for the money.
I would prefer a heads up display, indicator stalks etc and walking in thought would hate the Tesla.
Just pointing out that it did not bug me as much as I thought it would, and that the positives outnumbered the negatives for our instance.
For $64 in QLD, seems like a lot of car.
The depreciation across years is what worries me….
prefer tactile buttons and switches
I also prefer buttons and switches for critical controls, but not in the way that many luxury cars have them - a bewildering array of buttons that are very rarely needed and often pretty poorly arranged for visual appeal rather than utility.
I actually prefer moving a lot of rarely used buttons into a touchscreen interface, provided that it's sufficiently responsive and well designed to make navigating easy and painless.
IMO Hyundai / Kia have managed to get the balance about right in vehicles like the EV9 - hardware controls for HVAC and common navigation / entertainment functions, but everything else in the touchscreen.
@klaw81: I absolutely love a bewildering amount of buttons. Always have. Especially old Saab interiors. But yeah HVaC and stereo controls should be buttons. Lots of other less common can be screen based. It’s about getting the balance right.
I absolutely love a bewildering amount of buttons.
No wonder you don't like the Tesla interior - the clean minimalist layout would be the absolute antithesis of your preferences. I've gotten used to it and really like the look, but I'd happily take some Kia-style rocker switches for HVAC and audio stuff.
@klaw81: I used to install buttons and switches on my older cars that had blanking plates. They don’t do much apart from controlling an additional horn or lights but it was more to have the extra buttons than the accompanying accessories.
I'd recommend you try the Kia EV6 GT-Line. It's surprisingly good (imo).
Did you try a Tesla Y?
@wfdTamar: Had a look at the inside but didn’t take it for a drive. Waiting on the Juniper update. Hugely roomy though.
@gyrex: You can get a third party one. Not cheap though A$681
https://www.hautopart.com/en-au/collections/model-3-highland…
@wfdTamar: Can't be bothered. There's better options coming out anyway. If Tesla are going to force people to use buttons instead of a stalk, they've lost a customer.
@Omnibane: It is if you live near lots of roundabouts and adhere to the laws in relation to using an indicator on and off the roundabouts - no thanks. Stalks have worked extremely well for decades on nearly every car every produced but as usual, Tesla think they know better in the same vain as their decision to remove tried and tested technologies such as ultrasonic sensors, rain sensors and LiDAR in lieu of their bodged up camera system which just doesn't work.
BYD Atto 3. Drove nicely but I hate, and I cannot understate this, hate the interior look
Couldn't agree more with this sentiment. The Atto looks nice on the outside but looks like some demented abomination on the inside.
You should watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7yWcKK2Kcs
OMG how hideous is that Merc interior.
wow, imagine picking this up a month ago for 5k more. welcome to Tesla
Imagine buying a RWD Model Y in June, 2022 for $72,764 - a $15k premium. Not happy Jan.
I'm keen if they dip below 50k
waiting for EOFY $49,999
Far out. Another $6k off for QLD rebate as well!
Yeah If VIC had a $6k rebate I'd be seriously considering one now
Yum yum. low low low baby. more.
BYD and MG competition forcing Tesla prices down?
Tesla sales are slumping in the US too where BYD & MG competition doesn’t really exist.
I wondered if the incoming kia EV5 had something to do with it, but seems it could be a variety of reasons
- overstock due to oversupply or slow down in spending
- EOFY
- incoming new facelift
Wow. I told someone I would buy this when it drops to 50k. I might need to reneg on that deal (didn't think it would happen)…
That would not be good for Tesla considering the battery warranty is 8 years.
Or 160,000kms. Warranted against battery capacity dropping lower than 70% over this time period.
What happens if Tesla have gone broke in 8 years time? Quite possible with Elon in charge.
Current best estimates range from five (optimistic) to two (down from five after the past few months).
I have been keeping away from anything Elon does for this very reason. the guy may be a great businessman, but whatever he's smoking any business he's touched can change/vanish/go broke/all of the above at the drop of a hat.
the guy may be a great businessman
He's not, he's an excellent snakeoil salesman. A great businessman wouldn't be trashing TWO of his businesses concurrently. #KetaminePower
@mickeyjuiceman: that's still success in US terms. when you can define what success means, you got it
Where u heard it from? Ur grandma’s friend ?
Grandma Betty!
Stop listening to your gardener
Conservatively: 1000 charge cycles so about half a million kilometres. Optimistically: double that.
Wouldn’t exposure to cold/heat reduce it overtime even though the charging cycles are less than 1000.
I only do 5000kms a year inclusive of an 2k kms road trip and is parked in carport. I might only do one cycle a month meaning 1,000 months.
Longer than the rest of the car.
Of all the things to worry about in a Tesla, the battery is the least concerning in my opinion (well, aside from the motor). These things are reliable as hell.
Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty
The Battery and Drive Unit in your vehicle are covered for a period of:
Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive
Model 3 Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive
Model Y Rear-Wheel Drive 8 years or 160,000 km, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
Model 3 Long Range
Model 3 Performance
Model Y Long Range
Model Y Performance 8 years or 192,000 km, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
Great deal! Bought 0.
Now we never know the best price to buy 🤣 they keep falling.
I picked up a new Mazda yesterday. The dealer had to delay handover as they were already handing over six cars on Friday, and more than that on Saturday. When I got my car there was another customer signing up to buy a car. Not all manufacturers are hurting. The ones making desirable cars are doing just fine.