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[Refurb] Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q Tiny PC Intel i5 6400T 2.2GHz, 8GB RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD Win10Pro $100 Delivered @ Bufferstock

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We have this lot of Lenovo Tiny PC this week,
Use code BSA20 to get a 20% off to get it for $100

Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q Tiny PC
Intel i5 6400T 6th Gen. 2.2GHz
8GB-RAM 256GB Nvme SSD Win 10P

Includes 6 months return to base warranty.

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  • +7

    Seems better than raspberry pi?

    • +2

      Probably, but depends what you want to do.

    • +2

      not as tiny

    • Better for a desktop/router, but certainly not as good for field-use running off a USB-C power bank!

      • No, and certainly not good for some other random edge case that only applies to eight people in the country!

        • +6

          Raspberry Pis are fantastic for edge cases that only apply to eight people in the country. But there are many different edge cases.

          Personally, I mount them on telescopes. I know another guy who uses one interfaced into his track car's ECU. I've used them at work with PiKVM for diagnosing problems with computers mounted in street furniture. I know someone who established a campus mesh network for IoT devices composed entirely of Raspberry Pis. All things that are odd, weird, and which the Pis are great for.

    • The issue is power consumption, and 240V power. I'm going for minipcs with low power usbc.

    • Better in just about every way bar IO and power.

      I love Pis but they're getting expensive and/or difficult to run.
      The USB power standard for the Pi5 is ridiculous, not many Type C PD supplies do 5v at the current the Pi needs for best practice.
      Wish they'd shifted to 12v and had sub regs on board, more expensive for the Pi, but easier to dig up a power supply for it.

  • +4

    I have bought a few of these in the past months for friends and family for Plex server. Works really well as long as you don't need transcoding.

    • Is it possible to transcode video on other computer?

      • +1

        I think 8th gen onwards

        • +2

          I believe 7th gen, 6th can decode HEVC.

      • +1

        not 100% what you mean but it's certainly possible for Plex to offload the transcoding component to the client - this is called direct streaming.

      • My i3-7100u NUC seems to transcode 1080 just fine, just tested transcoding to a web client. Pretty sure as long as the CPU does Quick Sync (which the 6400T does) it should do ok.

    • The only reason I transcode is to send low-bandwidth SD video to my phone. Easily done in software.

      Why are people transcoding to HD instead of just streaming raw?

      • hardware limitations. e.g. x265 codec is not accepted everywhere

        • What can't play x265? Must be very old, no?

          • @bargaino: Depends on the receiving device. Samsung Tizen struggles with Plex app. Even with the new TVs.

          • @bargaino: think even some of the not-that-old chromecasts wont play x265. i'm not keeping track, as transcoding works well for me and my users when needed.

          • @bargaino: If there’s a mismatch between the video codec and what the end device supports, you’ll need to transcode. There are fairly recent devices that don’t support AV1, for example.

        • Can't this still transcode to h264?

          • @BROKENKEYBOARD: I didn't say it can't, technically. It's just a really old CPU so it might not cope

    • It does transcode, but slowly.

  • how much to add 8gb ram? cheers

    • +6

      dude, its in the listing itself.

      Note : Unit comes without inbuilt WIFI and secondary HDD caddie

      • -1

        Argh, TL did not read that far…

  • +2

    looks pretty handy to be a home server

  • +1

    these make great HA servers

    • +6

      Great to hear.

      What's HA servers?

      • +4

        Home assistant

      • High availability,
        you can cluster a few of these boxes with proxmox, and if one of the nodes goes down, the next one in the chain can take over whatever VMs it was running.

        • Yeah, I was confused as well ;)

          • +6

            @pizzaguy: Buy three of these for a proxmox High Availability cluster of Home Assistant.

            HA HA!

            • @bargaino: I'll build a stylish wooden rack!

              Oh wait, better spread them across the place.

            • @bargaino: You're missing one more HA

              Nvm, you're right: HA HA!

      • +1

        Home Assistant.

        • yeah should be ok. i have one of this and have proxmox with HA as one of the vms

      • HA = Home Automation

  • Will it take Normal SSD and will it support Win11 please ?

    • +1

      no win11

    • For something like this run a Linux distro and it will fly

    • +1

      You can install Windows 11 on it, but it's not supported by Microsoft and a future update might break it completely.

      Source: I've got a 6th gen i7 Dell micro that's been running Windows 11 happily for a couple of years and the only issue I had was an update that failed to install and caused it to go into a daily reboot loop. I had to download and install the msu file manually to work around it.

  • hunterzz , do these have a second m.2 SSD slot soldered on as pictured?

    A free SoDIMM slot? (or 2x 4GB)

    • +1

      They have two M.2 slots but only one accepts SSD. The other is for an optional card. I have an AX200 wifi/bluetooth card in mine. They support a 2.5 inch drive and an M.2. Two 260 pin SO-DIMM cards with total 32GB.

  • I want to use one of these to host my photos and videos (instead of google drive) could anyone reccomend a program for file hosting?

    • +7

      Well NextCloud would be a decent Google Drive replacement but for photos/videos most self-hosting types go for Immich which is more focussed on those (think Google Photos rather than Google Drive). PhotoPrism is Immich's main competition if you want options.

    • +3

      I've recently (yesterday!) set up immich.

      It works well, and virtually identical to google photos. The only thing is that the Devs themselves say it's in under very heavy development and things might change or break, and that it might have security vulnerabilities if you're going to expose it to the internet. There are other secure ways e.g. tailscale than just exposing it to the internet.

      Im going to play with photoprism today and see which one I like better.

      I can help if you're in need of it.

  • +2

    They also have M700 (similar specs, but 128GB SSD) in stock which comes down to $95.99 delivered (with the coupon code).

  • +1

    Any micro PC with i5 8th gen and 16GB, OP?

  • Picked one up with a Thunderbolt dock.

    Was considering a Pi 5 with the new NVME hat but this is a cheaper option albeit without wifi/BT.

    • I hope you aren't intending to use the dock with the computer as the computer does not have USB-C/Thunderbolt support.

  • Picked a similar one up recently for a Adguard Home Debian server. Runs real quiet and still compact. By the time you get a case and accessories for a Pi, it adds up.

  • I have one of these as part of my living room setup - paired with a wireless mouse/ keyboard.

    Serves well as a good mini pc for the tv - for those quick windows utilities use-case on your tv.

    Great as an Emulator-station as well.

  • +3

    The description states it's "refurbished", but then states it has "signs of cosmetic wear and tear on the exterior".

    To me this simply sounds like it's "used" or "second-hand".

    Refurbishment means "made to look new again". It does not simply mean "a used product that has been given a wipe over with a cloth".

    If a machine has signs of cosmetic wear and tear, refurbishment would require that the case is replaced with a new one.

    • +2

      This entire category of ex-corportate/government PCs is the same - refurbished usually means that any data from the previous owner has been securely removed and there's a fresh install of the bundled OS. You'd be lucky to get a wipe with a cloth, but can still be great value.

      • +2

        Sure, but this is not "refurbished", and it should be pointed out on every such deal that they are using the term incorrectly.

        There is a perfectly good term for this class of product. It is "used".

    • I think your expectations of used technology from a third party reseller are a bit high.

      There wouldn't be any profit margin if they replaced exterior casings just becuase they had a scratch or mark on them, it would also be extremely wasteful.

      Refurbishing a house is a little different, as a coat of paint and minor repairs could make a house look new again at an acceptable cost.

      Second-hand tech refurbs have always meant that the item is assessed, tested & confirmed functional, and then prepared for sale (formatted/fresh OS install, cleaned, etc.).

      Apple and other 'ceritifed' refurbishments go a step further and ensure the device is basically new again, but that's mainly because they have the resources to do so at very little cost.

      • +1

        The term “refurbished” is simply being misused to confuse used products with manufacturer-refurbished ones that do have parts replaced and cosmetic defects repaired.

        Why not use the term “used” or “second-hand” rather than calling them “refurbished” when they’re not?

        When I started in the tech industry 30 years ago, these products were marketed as “ex-lease”, “ex-corporate”, “used” or “second-hand”. Then, some time back, eBay sellers started trying to pass them off as “refurbished”, and they kept getting away with this deceptive terminology because nobody stopped them. Now everyone seems to be going it. It needs to stop.

        • The Cambridge Dictionary definition of the word 'refurbished' is not gospel, and I don't agree that tech resellers using the word in a manner that has been accepted for quite some time is deceptive.

          A lot has changed in 30 years, and they probably did things very differently in that time, such as just selling the product 'as is' which is clearly no longer the case.

  • Any reason to use this over my Synology 920+ for HA and Plex?

  • I'd love to buy a used desktop/tower with a full-sized motherboard (to use as a NAS), do you ever get any of those? These tiny refurbs are popular (and great - I have three), but I don't see as many in the larger form factors.

    Essentially I'm looking for something that has >4 SATA connectors (or the ability to add them through a PCI(e) card) and a slot I can use to add a fast network port (ideally 10Gbe)… Worst-case I could have the drives themselves outside the unit if it's a smaller form factor that can be expanded. Would even be happy with something reasonably old, doesn't take much CPU power to serve files over a home network…

    • There are some M.2 PCIe => SATA controllers with up to 6 ports, but then you would have to deal with having the drives external (and all the associated airflow, vibration, and noise problems).

      • My NAS has slowly expanded and most of the drives are in USB enclosures at the moment, which is pretty much the worst possible way to do it… so having room to expand with drives properly connected seems like enough of a win that I would be willing to look for an external mounting solution.

        • What I ended up doing was mounting my old motherboard (when I upgraded) in a new case. Had to find a case with enough drive bays though, they're not common these days!

    • +1

      What about a HP G4 SFF? These have 2 onboard M.2 slots, 3 SATA ports and can store 2 X 3.5inch drives internally. Plenty of PCIe slots as well for extra cards.

      Either that or a HP Flex Pro (retail version of the G4 SFF). Same size, 3 SATA ports, 2 X m.2 on the motherboard and PCIE slots. These can house 2 X 3.5 inch HDDS and a single 2.5 as well, all in SFF form. Depending on the retail config they can also come with a PCIe riser card and can fit a full height PCIe card in them.

      Don't think any of the recent SFF or even tower corporate PCs have any more than 3 SATA ports on the motherboard, so you'd have to get creative.

  • Great value for a Linux system, nowadays I'd be aiming for an 8th gen or newer given Microsoft insisting on dropping support for Win10 next year.

    I honestly don't believe they will, given that Win10 market share has grown versus Win11 recently. But I would still stick with a CPU that is supported.

    • They've already announced the extended support options, they might delay it but doubt it will be for long if it did happen. According to the market share site I looked up Win11 is definitely getting more popular while Win10 is dropping slowly, it also says almost 3% of PCs are still running Win7 which goes to show how much some people really care about EOL OSes.

      People will just run the unsupported OS, and sook when they get popped by a CVE

      • Windows 11's global desktop market share dipped between February 2024 and April 2024 from 28.16 percent to 25.65 percent, while Windows 10's share grew to 70.03 percent from 67.26 percent.

        ~ theregister

    • Might require paid subscription for Windows 10 updates.

  • Wow, I just bought a mounting bracket and DVD drive for it last night too.

  • Can this kind of machine run Kayo on 4K?
    I just need to turn on an f1 race
    Even if the gui is slow it’s okay as long as it plays the video

    • Not sure, gotta lookup Intel 6400T for Widevine L1 UHD support, that's the encryption.

      But my guess would be a strong yes, given how much better it is than the average ARM TV device.

      • Thanks brother will look it up

  • Any recommendations for an opnsense box with dual nic? Preferably something from a reputable brand (dell, hp, Lenovo etc)

    • If on a budget, you may need to look at a bigger form factor that has a compatible motherboard to install a PCIe network adaptor.

      If a small form factor is what you're after, there are cheap mini PCs designed specifically to be used as routers on Aliexpress, etc.

  • Hi, does this have
    * 1x 8GB or 2x 4GB RAM sticks?
    * Free SSD 2.5 sata drive bay?

  • -1

    PSA: just noticed these are back in stock. I ordered the m920q

  • @hunterzz Looking to buy HP EliteBook 830 G5 Laptop. May I know what's the battery life?

    • 80% battery health

  • +1

    These are great. Originally used one as a plex server with a 2tb ssd in it. Now swapped that out for a proper nas and use this has a home pc with ubuntu. Uses 5-10watts of electricity.

  • Mini pc out of stock

    • they are back in stock , slightly higher config for this lot

  • +1

    The price comes down to $136.00 instead of $100

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