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KAMRUI AK2 Plus Mini PC Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake N100, 16GB RAM 512GB $229.99, 1TB $269.99 (EXP) Shipped @ KAMRUI via Amazon AU

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Deal is back, now $40 more but SSD capacity 1TB instead of 512GB

512GB SSD variant available for $229

Cybersecurity advice:
Note: It is recommended that you install your own copy of Windows (or Linux, if preferred) over the existing installation as there have been numerous reported incidents of generic branded Mini PC's being shipped with spyware / keyloggers. This process should only take 15 to 20 minutes of your time.

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  • philotex on 31/03/2024 - 07:20
    +1

    This links to an N95, not N100

  • Kanjus on 31/03/2024 - 07:40

    Can these be hackintoshed?

    • Fergy1987 on 31/03/2024 - 08:02
      +5

      They will most definitely hackintosh your personal information

      • Bunnyburger on 31/03/2024 - 12:12

        Hackintosh your salad

    • Lord Ra on 31/03/2024 - 22:20
      +1

      Didn't apple just shut down hackintosh?
      Which in turn triggered (not really) the US DOJ to file an anti-trust lawsuit against them?

  • serpserpserp on 31/03/2024 - 08:50
    +2

    Do these come with free inbuilt malware?

    • philotex on 31/03/2024 - 09:18
      +3

      It's about time to have that uncomfortable talk about the backdoor.

      • xoom on 31/03/2024 - 12:25

        Giggity.

    • AlexF on 31/03/2024 - 09:23
      -3

      Think of it as diagnostic data. All vendors do it (What data Windows 10 sends to Microsoft).

      • Aureus on 31/03/2024 - 09:46

        Not a great source. Windows is far from the best OS for privacy, but "hackmag" doesn't seem to know what OCSP or CRLs are and ends up blocking them, which shows the author doesn't understand IT security basics.

        • AlexF on 31/03/2024 - 09:50
          -1

          author doesn't understand IT security basics.

          bs

          • Aureus on 31/03/2024 - 10:04

            @AlexF: Lol.

            The only URL on the list one would expect was windowsupdate.com, we did not include it into the block list

            • Proceeds to block OCSP and CRLs.

            If you don't understand why this is bad, you probably shouldn't be making a call on if this is "bs".

            • AlexF on 31/03/2024 - 10:14

              @Aureus: lol. Author’s heuristically blocking flows to isolate those sent to Microsoft and associated vendors.

              • Aureus on 31/03/2024 - 10:22

                @AlexF: Do you work in IT?

                These URLs are configured on the certs themself. Nothing to do with Microsoft. Windows just implements CRLs and OCSP. If they didn't your OS wouldn't be secure. You will find the exact same thing on Linux, MacOS, or any other modern OS.

      • ldd-mn on 31/03/2024 - 09:59

        Seems like a really old article?

        • AlexF on 31/03/2024 - 10:00
          -1

          Didn’t Microsoft introduce Windows 11 recently?

          • ldd-mn on 31/03/2024 - 10:01

            @AlexF: A few years ago now, but the article is talking about Windows 10, with their screenshots being dated from 2015

      • murdercluck on 31/03/2024 - 11:41

        It is very helpful of them to collect all your password and account data as diagnostics!

        If you ever forget a password you can just ask KAMRUI I guess?

    • murdercluck on 31/03/2024 - 11:36
      -2

      Yes, looks like they come with a chip that re-installs a trojan/malware picked up by Windows Defender even after re-installs of windows.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/MiniPCs/comments/v3ipaa/any_securit…

      • Clear on 31/03/2024 - 13:03
        +2

        If you use "reset this PC" and not bootable media where the partitions are wiped you're going to get the virus back since it's using the recovery partition. That's really a no brainer and why everyone says to do a fresh install.

  • LlamaFace on 31/03/2024 - 09:31

    Would installing ChromeOS achieve the same thing in terms of removing malware?

    • kackstelze on 31/03/2024 - 09:35

      Yes. ChromeOS Flex would run perfectly on this and makes it a great computer for the kids. Limit screen time and choose which websites they can visit.

      • PuppieWayne on 31/03/2024 - 17:55

        ChromeOS is perfect.

        Google will never steal your personal data. Don't forget to install FB after as well.. completely safe and very PII secure. 🙄

    • Clear on 31/03/2024 - 09:41

      Yes. Any OS reinstall including Windows from bootable media will remove malware.

    • slipstreamexpress on 31/03/2024 - 10:01
      +3

      Providing there are no bios level rootkits installed

        • slipstreamexpress on 31/03/2024 - 10:06

          My understanding is that only an official Chromebook was protected by their verified boot process as they already know what the bios firmware should look like and can checksum against that at boot level. If you're installing this onto a non Chromebook mini PC then you miss out on that potentially crucial added level of security.

            • slipstreamexpress on 31/03/2024 - 10:09

              @ldd-mn: Totally depends on the type of rootkit though. I guess my whole point was that it's not a bulletproof system as some people may think it is. It's certainly more secure than most, but the option of a specific ChromeOS targeting rootkit on a non-verified PC does exist, however remote the possibility might be.

              • Nom on 31/03/2024 - 10:11

                @slipstreamexpress: The key here is

                however remote the possibility might be.

                If the possiblity is remote enough, then you don't need to consider it.

                It's just as possible that your new Dell comes with a compromised BIOS and a rootkit in the Windows installation - but this possibly is so remote, that it's not something that people worry about.

                • slipstreamexpress on 31/03/2024 - 10:14

                  @Nom: All cyber security is calculated risk, it totally depends on what you're intending to use the device for.

                  If you're concerned with a few million in crypto being stolen then perhaps that remote possibility becomes to much risk to proceed, perhaps not.

                  My only point was that rootkits are still a possibility on non verified PC with chromeos unless you purchased a verified Chromebook to begin with.

                  • Nom on 31/03/2024 - 10:40
                    -3

                    @slipstreamexpress:

                    All cyber security is calculated risk, it totally depends on what you're intending to use the device for.

                    Precisely 👌

                    The risk of these cheap Chinese machines for anonymous OzBargainers is absolutely miniscule.

      • Clear on 31/03/2024 - 10:06
        +2

        I decompiled the BIOS on mine and there was nothing suspicious. People keep saying "rootkits" and with all the attention these are getting there's been no proof of any found.

        • slipstreamexpress on 31/03/2024 - 10:07

          I agree, I'm only pointing out that it's a possibility not that it's actually occurring.

          • Clear on 31/03/2024 - 10:08
            +1

            @slipstreamexpress: True. Unfortunately it's enough to scare people away. But hey I shouldn't complain about security awareness

            • slipstreamexpress on 31/03/2024 - 10:25
              +1

              @Clear: I'm not personally an expert by any stretch of the imagination, my information comes from my best friend who's literal job is to build as secure systems as possible for stock trading platforms. The stories I've heard from him over the years as to how people have circumvented cyber security have blown my mind.

              One example involved the attackers intercepting a shipment of air purifiers earmarked for offices that were behind a firewalled intranet, replacing their firmware internally whilst also installing wifi transmitters and bridging infrastructure that broadcast out once the purifiers were whitelisted on the internal network by the IT department. Allowing access to the intranet through a bridged network via the (profanity) air purifiers. Crazy stuff.

              • Nom on 31/03/2024 - 10:34

                @slipstreamexpress: Right, but that's because the stock trading platforms are a target - there's big money at stake. There are many many stories like this.

                As a home user, you simply don't need to worry about this stuff. Nobody is targeting you specifically - basic mitigations like a clean windows install on this machine are all you need to worry about.

              • r0nmac on 31/03/2024 - 11:22

                @slipstreamexpress: I would concur it's very possible. Flash Boys literally hints of snooping software in the switches of data centres hosting trading exchange servers.

              • xoom on 31/03/2024 - 12:29

                @slipstreamexpress: I wouldnt put it pass these hackers to even try this and many others. Hey if it connects to the network. Its fair game for these people.

        • AlexF on 31/03/2024 - 13:25

          I decompiled the BIOS on mine and there was nothing suspicious.

          No disrespect, but,… care to disclose your white hat credentials?

          • Clear on 31/03/2024 - 15:16

            @AlexF: You don't need "white hat credentials" to know how to decompile code. I could certainly list my current cybersecurity qualifications that aren't your run of the mill Tafe "cybersecurity" certificates, as well as high profile breaches I've been involved in. But this isn't really an appropriate place for it.

  • Kirbieb on 31/03/2024 - 09:38
    +1

    anyone with one of these know the idle power draw?

    • digitalaxon on 31/03/2024 - 09:48
      +1

      I have a dreamquest and it draws around 9.5W when idle. so I would assume this would similar.

    • vodamerc on 02/04/2024 - 23:46

      I have the n95 version, about 6w on proxmox

  • philotex on 31/03/2024 - 09:42
    +1

    Consider the installed OS and also restore OS compromised. Install a clean OS and you should be fine. Haven't heard of these being hardware level compromised but who knows.

  • scarface on 31/03/2024 - 09:48

    Does anyone have an idea what the model or specs are for the NVMe drive in this unit?

    • ldd-mn on 31/03/2024 - 09:53

      Pretty impossible to know, they are probably just using whatever generic SSD they have on hand

  • MrThing on 31/03/2024 - 10:01
    -1

    Lol cheap PC with built in malware and spyware, what a bloody deal!

  • shaybisc on 31/03/2024 - 10:02

    "It is recommended that you install your own copy of Windows"

    Does that mean you lose the Windows licence that it has and you have to get another one? One of the main attractions of these cheap mini pcs for me is Windows Pro which they often have. Not this one though.

    • Clear on 31/03/2024 - 10:17
      +4

      The license is tied into the motherboard so it'll activate fine if you install with a new copy of Windows.

      • hollykryten on 31/03/2024 - 10:33

        Makes me wonder how they can build and sell a brand new PC for $269 and yet include a legit Windows 11 Pro license with it. An OEM Windows 11 Pro license is usually around $200 alone. So some thing fishy is going on. I have to place into question and legitimacy of this embedded Windows 11 Pro license. I bet it's some dodgy Windows 11 Pro volume license which isn't supposed to be sold on any PC.

        • Nom on 31/03/2024 - 10:36
          +3

          An OEM Windows 11 Pro licence doesn't cos $200 to manufacturers - there have been articles with a calculated figure of $20 to Dell for example.

          • hollykryten on 31/03/2024 - 10:37

            @Nom: This manufacturer wouldn't have any where near the price bargaining power as a huge corporate company such as Dell.

            • Nom on 31/03/2024 - 10:37

              @hollykryten: Absolutely.

              And this might still be using a dodgy key, but it's to save tens of dollars, not two hundred.

            • Smigit on 31/03/2024 - 13:13
              +1

              @hollykryten: I doubt MS is going to make them pay a significantly higher price than Dell or other major companies, when they know full well they’ll just put a pirate copy on instead if the cost becomes prohibitive.

              Not to say it’s a legit copy or not, but I can’t see them trying to get 10x what Dell pays out of them.

        • Clear on 31/03/2024 - 10:45
          +1

          Years ago when mini PCs first popped up with the Intel Baytrail Atom CPUs it would cost a Chinese OEM between US$10 and $30 for a Windows 8.1 license. If it was a tablet it would be US$10. Pipo exploited this by releasing mini PCs with [screens on them.](https://www.pipo-store.com/pipo-x8-pro-mini-pc.html

          OEM licenses are cheap for manufacturers and it's still subsidised further in China. There's a booming market of getting keys off ex corporate PCs (i.e. HP) and reselling those.

        • shaybisc on 31/03/2024 - 11:11

          I notice the same thing on many of the pc refurbs posted here. W10 Pro licence must very cheap for refurbers.

  • r0nmac on 31/03/2024 - 11:18
    +2

    My biggest concern is a possibility of an embedded key logger in the BIOS. I wouldn't put this past them.

    • Bunnyburger on 31/03/2024 - 13:08

      Not hard to do if you control the whole process.

    • Snoots on 31/03/2024 - 13:30

      This is the only valid concern really. Can you flash the Bios on these PC's with a known generic firmware that is trusted?.

  • akbermo on 31/03/2024 - 12:46

    How would this go as a media device? Compared to an Apple TV or Nvidia shield?

    • Snoots on 31/03/2024 - 13:45

      This is basically just a power efficient PC in a small box. It has ethernet, WiFi and Bluetooth so would be fine for media playback. That said, an Apple TV, Firestick or Nvidia Shield will be more convenient from a family usability point of view as they just work out of the box.. A Mini PC like this makes better sense as a Plex server or something similar.

  • D Money on 31/03/2024 - 14:01

    Is the RAM expandable or soldered on?

  • Stuj on 31/03/2024 - 14:27

    Another use is a gaming PC with Batocera, i ordered a clone of this the Firebat that was on sale during anniversary sale for $173 16/512GB and thats what I plan to do with it. Probably regretting not getting a DDR5 version now, I’ve heard some games run better with that.

    • BananaMan007 on 02/04/2024 - 22:46

      the ram wont really have much accept cpu and gpu are biggest bottlebeck by far

      • Stuj on 07/04/2024 - 18:24

        Yes i think you are right. The unit arrived and i can play up to Wii U and PlayStation 2 quite happily, so am very pleased with the bang for buck on this.

  • dondiego on 31/03/2024 - 14:55

    This (N100) or 2nd hand I5 6260 from marketplace ? (Plex server,direct play)

    • kogi on 31/03/2024 - 17:19
      +1

      Meh either way.

      Real comparison would be be
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/835249

      Was $229 as well. And would be way better than the N100 except for power usage

      • hollykryten on 02/04/2024 - 19:40

        The only thing with that is it's not brand new. It's a refurb. Basically a used product.

        • kogi on 02/04/2024 - 20:51

          its an ex corporate machine. better built and would last way longer than the kamuri

          • hollykryten on 02/04/2024 - 21:25

            @kogi: However it only comes with a 6 month seller warranty.

            Does the KAMRUI pc come with a warranty. And i wonder how much of it?. I would think that the KAMRUI would come with at least a 12 month warranty through Amazon.

  • Lord Ra on 13/05/2024 - 09:16

    Back in stock for $230

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