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Bluetti EB3A Portable Power Station 600W 268Wh $381.65 ($372.67 eBay Plus) Delivered @ Outbax via eBay
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SwarleyAUS on 13/02/2024 - 23:00 ebay.com.au (2465 clicks)
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What tipped me over the edge. My ice-cream is melting! MELTIIIINNG!!
You really like Dan don't you?
Funny how he lives in one of the few streets in Mulgrave that actually has power…
He lives rent-free in a lot of OzBargainers heads
Not sure what a gas connection will do when you don't have power at home, not like it can power your fridge.
Just for cooking and heating really, unless you have a gas generator at home?
Caravan fridges do run on gas. Not efficiently, but does work.
But just grab a deep cycle battery, solar panel and a Jaycar fridge.. good to go.
*could just use a drill battery or car battery if in a bind. Just need something to smooth the solar input during clouds.
I use gas for Cooking, boil water for drinking and shower, and heating.
These are important to most of us.But most importantly, always have a backup power source.
That's why I have both electric and gas for cooking, hot water boiler and heating.
Because infrastructure in Australia is like 3rd world countries. It's just a tiny two hour storm today and we now have no power no internet and no train.
All we got are youths on bail breaking into houses and stealing cars for the 999th time, with some unwelcome foreign murders living in our neighbourhood as a bonus. What the hell is that.I will keep my fossil fuel vehicle.
Not sure what a gas connection will do when you don't have power at home
I think it's more that using gas will reduce the overall load on the electrical grid, reducing the need of blackouts/throttling of power. Eg induction cooktops can draw over 11kW in full use, vs 0kW for gas in full use. That would be fine if our electricity grid could handle it, but there have already been multiple throttling events needed over summer.
That is an amazing induction cooktop if it can draw 45A constantly.
pretty good actually
8kw of solar panels
6.5kwh solar battery
Hybrid inverter
Blackout protection/ Backup circuitMost of the house has power, I'm A OK :)
I'm A OK :)
You might be…
Most others can't afford $$$$ for a solar battery…
That is true, a good consideration - i only got it cause of the victorian rebates otherwise i wouldn't have gotten a battery at all.
Mainstream electric cars came out 11 years ago. I have seen electric cars such as imiev for $5k, and others around $10k. You can add a 2.5kw 240v inverter to any car for $250. The imiev will get you through the night no probs..but even a petrol car can act as a generator if you were desperate to keep a fridge topped up.
So time and money aren't really valid excuses (unless you are a kid and just starting off on your left the nest journey). But parents can teach them.
As for solar/ solar batteries. Pre covid times they were just about giving them away. Solar literally was (1.5kw systems were free).
I went with 4kw Solar and 2 x Solar batteries with blackout protection for $4k.
Plus have the car battery if I need it, plus an off grid solar setup for camping. I only 'need' the grid maybe 3 times a year for maybe 10 mins max (ie hair dryer, aircon, stove, and toaster all going at the same time).Hot water is solahart…no power required.
Summary - It's our stubborness to change (and be educated in this field) that is causing a lot of people to be in a bit of hurt right now. 45 trips around the sun, always had full electric houses. Never had an issue.
Not worth it for small household in Melbourne. Day light is too short in every season except summer. Battery is too expensive and lasts for 5 years only.
Maybe good for Darwin, just not Melbourne.
Sorry that is bullshit! Makes a lot of sense for a small household! Weather in Melbourne is good enough to power and heat a house with solar - we have a 10KW system and it's possible to heat the house in winter with the available sunshine - maybe not 100% on all days when you don't have a battery.
A good insulated house does not need a lot of heating. We upgraded our insulation to R8 (in old 60s built house with all DIY for under $1000) and it's comfy and our 6.3KW split system covers the whole house! Cheap and efficient - you just need to know how to do it … highly suggest to be part of the facebook group "My Efficient Electric Home" - lots of information!
And how did you get to the 5 year lifetime of a battery ??? Again bullshit! (but … agree with costs - they make no sense financially but can protect you from power outages).
@mini_wombat: @TanedaR Funny enough…Battery longevity in Melbourne would be double that of Darwin (Lithium and heat aren't friends).
If it helps, our batteries (Growatt… so cheap, cheap) are now 5 years old, and their SoH is still 100%. No degradation whatsoever in 5 years.
gas isnt going to power their home, four thumbs
but can allow you to cook your dinner when the electricity is out.
get a bbq
Good time of year for a solar pizza oven! Will require alfoil, a stick, glad wrap and a box.
Great for a cheese toasties, pizza's, potatoes, heating soup/ beans…will even cook rice.
ie.https://www.sciencebuddies.org/stem-activities/solar-oven
if not, use your bbq.. Charcoal, gas whatever ..
coil a bit of wire, whack it in a solar panel. Place said coil in a cup of water..enjoy a cup of coffee.
Want a warm shower? Coil a full garden hose with both ends in a watering can (easier to pour as a shower) or a bucket. Place in the sun. The water will thermosyphon around the hose and you will have a container of hot water. Place a piece of glass over the hose and the water will boil (keeps wind cooling out).
Feeling hot, whack your shirt in a bucket of cold water and put it on. Got me through hard labour jobs in 45C heat.
Not even 24hr without power and people losing their minds…
Good time of year for a solar pizza oven!
Tried it last night, didn't work too well… Still waiting for the pizza to cook.
No, it's not going to power their homes. It's not electricity but it is another form of energy, bright spark
nobody said it wasnt but JV is referencing the gas on new homes when its irrelevant during a power outage
is English your first language?
downvoted for speaking facts
The collective mind of the OzBargain community at work for ya
That's why we are still suffering under the dictatorship of the Andrews/Allan government.
My Bluetti AC180 kept my fridge & freezer going overnight until power was restored early this morning. I just got it two weeks ago.
My Bluetti AC180
Not many people have one of those or the $1500 required to buy one.
Also, many people are going to be without power for a few days…
Provides more power than a tesla
Not the ATL… I got mine for $347.10 18/06/2023 via eBay.
I think I got in before Jack came home. I do remember the post was edited to reference Jack coming home.
Which I stated in the post desc…
If I get a solar blanket, is this all I need to charge this or do I need to get a sine wave inverter too?
It has a 12v DC input you can use to charge it at up to 100W from a solar blanket.
Pretty good price per WH considering how much 100w power bank costs :P Compared to a car battery say 30kg for 1440wh (120ah x 12v) at 48wh/kg, this one has a kg’s worth of extra plus not needing to buy a separate case. But the price is about the same as a car battery… The MPTT is interesting, how good is the build quality?
Looking and waiting for a deal on a foldup solar panel to test it out. If it works good… then I am buying a portable fridge.
I bought some lightweight and flimsy ones on eBay ages ago to test the concept. Had them sitting on the passenger side of my windshield, worked great. Depending on your setup, of course. Might be worth getting cheap parts to test before committing to anything serious. Fold up sounds fancy and expensive.
hmm… would this start a car and charge from the alternator?
I want to swap one of my cars to lithium but its 700-1100
If I understand it correctly, jumping start a car involves connecting the dead battery to a live one using jumper cables. Since you don’t have access to the battery terminals on this one, it then is a question of if you can get some sort of converters or jumper cables made to plug into an outlet.
Good price and really wanted to order one, but found this while researching: https://www.reddit.com/r/bluetti/comments/14txga4/rip_bluett…
Decided not to go ahead.
I was considering the Allpowers r600 but it suffers from the e207 error. The river 2 is double the price with lower AC output power. Only other option is maybe the vtoman but didn't have features I wanted. Hopefully the 2 year warranty is sufficient.
Had first hand experience with the “SHORT” error on a EB70 when using the AC Inverter. BluETTI replaced it, but I’m getting the same error on the replacement as well.
Holding down all 3 buttons on the front shows
Error E008 - possibly dodgy cellsEdit: I decided to buy. Many mixed reviews so decided to give it a go. The item is eBay plus so easy returns if there's anything wrong.
Don't like how the item specifies the warranty as 12 months and 24 months in separate places though. Can anyone confirm if it is 24 months?
Have something similar, good for camping and charging small devices. But if you are looking at a micro/mini home back up power you need to look at something close to 1000wh at the very least.
Bought this on a previous deal can charge it via solar panels, works great and is high quality
Can you please share where you got the cable from solar panel to barrel connector?
Yeah, it comes with one but the connection is wired the wrong way, so you will need to cut either cable and change the ends to make it work, i did it with scissors and tape and it works fine
What is the most suitable solar panel I should get for this? What is the constant output watt from the AC?
This works a treat but I see the prices are up by about $200
https://itechworld.com.au/products/200w-solar-blanket-kit-pa…That's too much spending. I'll stay with my 2.5kw portable generator…
Watched online, this unit is not suitable to be used as UPS. If you plug to charge from AC, AC output gets disabled. Can anyone please confirm this?
Worked for me last time I had it plugged into my fridge.
Just had a quick squizz on Youtube https://youtu.be/7Dth-N72dAk
I can give it a go later today for you.
Thanks mate, that would be great if it works. I plan to use this as UPS for my network devices..
I was thinking about using mine for that… but I am going to wait for a SLA based UPS for that.
I don't trust plugging a Lithium Battery in 24/7.
"If you plug to charge from AC, AC output gets disabled."
Not true. What happens is the AC output no longer uses the inverter, instead uses direct pass through when charging from AC.
In a power outage it would switch back to using the battery and inverter. All that aside, this unit has a noisy fan when charging from AC. I wouldn't use it permanently plugged in as UPS.
A friend has this EB3A. I have an EB70 & an AC180. Obviously depending on your setup, fridge type, solar panel & sun availability, I would not recommend the EB3A unless you only needed a reliable fridge for only 24ishhrs. My EB70 happily powers a single Engel with partial sun for 3+ days using a shitty 200W blanket (real world supply is about 110W) & two Engle fridges (everyone needs a drinks fridge right?) in full sun for 3+ days with some tweeking of the drinks fridge temp settings at night. Having the AC180 is a complete game changer though. With the EB70, I was always reliant on having a reasonable amount of sun but the AC180 completely fulfils the needs without any stress. And yes, there is a big price difference between them all but the AC180 also recharges much MUCH quicker that the others….. something that many buyers of these units do not factor in.
For these reasons, I'm actually looking at moving on my 6mth old (used 4times) EB70 & getting another AC180. (Mod: Edited)What solar panels are you using
Bluetti EB3A Portable - BATTERY INFO
Capacity: 268.8Wh (12Ah)
Type: LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate)
Life Cycles: 2,500+ Cycles to 80% Original Capacity
Shelf-life: Recharge to 80% Every 3-6 Months
Management System: MPPT Controller, BMS, etc.The one you linked to says 500 Cycles
Thanks. I'd only had a quick look and so hadn't noticed different battery type. I'd only be using occasionally for a fridge in the car boot so 500 cycles is fine, but the temperature performance is a big concern (45 v's 60deg max).
Good info on the pro's and cons here if anyone's interested.
https://blog.ecoflow.com/au/lifepo4-vs-lithium-ion-batteries…
The bluetti and ecoflow above mentioned are both good but have different pro's and con's.
Everyone has slightly different preferences, sometimes only finding out after using.
Both compact but small capacities with great USB C charging features.
The ecoflow river is Lithium-ion, not LiFePO4. This unit should be compared against River 2
Would this overheat if you left it charging devices in a car?
Would get pretty hot just like power banks or lithium jump starters if left charging in a hot car, but even worse if in full sun in the car.
A lesson learned and a penny saved.
The fact this can also be run as a UPS adds amazing value to its uses.
But if you use it as UPS, won't you be wasting the cycles?
A silly question, I can charge this at home via the 240V main from the wall?
Then use it to power PC + monitor during a power outage?Yes and yes, although it only has one outlet and a max of 600w output
Thanks, I can plug a power board into the one outlet.
If the PC uses more than 600W, will it still work (for shorter period)?Yeah I don't see why not. No it's not designed to power complex electronics over 600w
It can go higher than 600w but you have to enable it in the app (power lifting mode)
@Headless: Correct, but it's a lower voltage and not pure sine wave output in this mode. Designed for powering heaters, not electronics
@Headless: Power lifting should not be used for anything other than resistive loads, otherwise it will damage your device. I tested it on a microwave, not good.
That is 600W.
The 1000W is still a lot moreits the same link you provided
What's the best way to ship a few of these to Ukraine?
Anyone with experience/advice re: plonking another say 50ah backup battery onto this? (not fussed abt looks in short term)
they sell and expansion battery (B80) that plugs into the DC input of the EB3A. I guess you could hook up any battery (12 to 28V) to this port to supplement the built in battery.
You won't be charging this extra battery though, and you're probably at risk of over discharging it.
Good timing for 500,000 Victorians…
I wonder how the ones in new houses without a gas connection are going ???