For those who are traveling long distance during the holidays, Tesla is offering a 50% lower rate at select Supercharging locations this summer. Plug in before 9 AM or after 9 PM from Friday 22 December 2023 to Sunday 7 January 2024 to access lower rates. Tap the Supercharger map pins on your in-car touchscreen to find rates and eligible sites.
Referee gets $1400 off Model Y & 3 purchase.
Referrer gets $700 credit toward Supercharging, software upgrades, merchandise, service payments or a new vehicle. Limit of 10 referral benefits per calendar year.
How can you tell which work with Non-Tesla?
I tried at the Box Hill one a few months back when they announced the non-tesla capability but I just couldn't get it to work.
In the Tesla app, there's a "Charge Your Non-Tesla" button/section, which will show all the Superchargers (and paid Destination Chargers) open to Non-Tesla EVs.
Pick one from the map, pick your stall number (eg 2B), and then you start charging that way.
Only the sites in the app are open to Non-Teslas, of course.
Their website has a map of you don't want the app too.
Tested charging my polestar 2 at box Hill a couple days ago and it did work once I setup the app/billing profile etc
I just triee again in box hill, same thing.
Perhaps this, for my fellow BYD drivers https://thedriven.io/2023/09/21/byd-investigates-why-atto-3s…
Holy crap!! Then those teslas with about 100kWh battery will cost about $85 to fully charge!! Isn’t that about the same as filling an empty petrol tank for an average 60l car??
Tesla pricing is cheaper than the Non-Tesla pricing I posted.
What are you pointing out here ? That commercial charging on a roadtrip isn't much cheaper than petrol ?
99% of charging happens at home.
If you decide to drive an 800Km roundtrip and you have to pay $85 for a charge in the middle, then you're still way ahead of petrol costs for the other 99% of your driving.
What a stupid comparison based on battery & tank sizes. Why not compare your 100kWh Tesla battery (which is a rare exception, since most Teslas have between 55 and 75kWh) with a 110l tank on a Land Cruiser.
But as others have pointed out, that's a moot point anyway. If the occasional road trip, filled up at the most expensive chargers in the country, costs close to what an efficient ICE engine could do, that still leaves all the day-to-day commuting at a fraction of the cost.
My EV runs on about $1 per 100km. Try doing that with an ICE, you'd have to push it 90% of the time…
Yeah terrible comparison, it's apples and oranges. My ICE will do almost 1000km on a tank while Non-Tesla will have to fill up their electrons twice or more for the same distance. Ouchies.
oooo thanks for sharing op. how much is it usually for a full charge from like almost empty for both teslas and non-teslas?
Practically you are unlikely to do that.
We generally only use Superchargers on long trips. Adding about 300km of range (e.g. charge from 20% to 80%) in our Model 3 is around $25 normally. More expensive for non-Telsa, but 50% off is definitely a bargain.
Hmm… That rate isn't as much cheaper than gas cars.
Will 13 litres of E10 get you 300km?
@serpserpserp: highway driving, yes (roughly). I drive a diesel which averages around 4.5L/100km.
My next car is going to be a PHEV. Just saving up atm.
@Name: that still wouldn't get you there for $25. You're taking the absolute worst case for an EV (entirely driving on DC fast charger power instead of charging at home) and comparing it to the absolute best case for an ICE (4.5L/100KM diesel) and still not getting there
Plus if you did it outside of peak hours you'd get it for half price… which servos offer that?
@trotsky: What are you talking about? I was responding to serpserpserp where they said
13 litres of E10 get you 300km
Diesel currently $1.89, $25/$1.89 =13.23L.
4.5*3=13.5L so 300km.. So it does get me there?
@Name: Exactly, 13.5L > 13.23L so you wouldn't quite get there for that $25, and that's with best case scenario for you (in terms of fuel efficiency and price, because the average Diesel price in AU across the whole year has been $1.97). E10 average price has been $1.90 which is I assume why OP asked about 13L of E10, because it would actually get you there at that price.
As I said earlier:
You're taking the absolute worst case for an EV (entirely driving on DC fast charger power instead of charging at home) and comparing it to the absolute best case for an ICE (4.5L/100KM diesel) and still not getting there
@trotsky: That's why I said
highway driving, yes (roughly)
Are you just replying to what you want to see so you can validate some argument that doesn't exist?
Everything I said is accurate whether you believe it or not. It's a fact. You can't go off in some tangent bringing in all these other what ifs.
@serpserpserp: Absolutely, $25 gets you approx 15l of petrol from Costco at today’s prices. Modern golf sized turbo petrol or small diesel car will easily return between 4 and 5l/100km on a freeway run.
No savings when using supercharges at all. Charging at home from solar is another story.
Modern golf sized turbo petrol or small diesel car will easily return between 4 and 5l/100km on a freeway run.
This is meaningless to most Australians though - we buy Hilux, Ranger, D-Max and a bunch of SUVs.
If you want to compare average running costs, then you're using a L/100KM number way higher than 4 or 5…
No savings when using supercharges at all.
Of course, Superchargers are expensive. That's why this deal was posted 🤷🏼♂️
If you're running an EV, you're doing the vast majority of your charging at home. You're not usually paying Supercharger prices.
the savings are when you charge at home. you pay for the convenience of a supercharger, not so much to save money.
That is about 300km of range. So please let me know the car that is getting 4L/100km of efficiency (at the current fuel prices).
I love how ICE car drivers say this, and yet I pay hundreds of fkn dollars per month in fuel for my wife's gutless CX3 so she can go back and forth to work which is only a 60km round trip, so how the fk am I filling it every week when everyone else is doing that for $25 in fuel apparently????
I must be missing something. My Tesla on the other hand has done 50,000km off of 8.15MWh of energy and cost me $663 over the entire 4+ year lifetime of the car.
I went and filled her car just this morning at $2.15/L for 91. That cost me $107 to fill the tank. It has a fuel efficiency of 6.7L/100km which means it will get 700km max out of that but that's utter bullshit, in practice it would be lucky to get 550. Thats $45 to get 300km (using the manufacturers fuel efficiency and not real world which would be $65) in a total slug of a car with an 0-100 time of 9 seconds and I'm doing it in an EV with a 0-100 time of 5.4 seconds.
And that's at the absolute worst case of charging off DC fast chargers during peak time rather than half the price at off peak or just charging at home for free because my OVO plan gives me free power from 11am-2pm, or 8c/kWh between midnight and 6am meaning worst case a full charge for me at home would be $4.
So every time I hear this as someone who has both an EV and an ICE at home I wonder what the fk the person asking the question has done to manage to run their ICE car at near the efficiency of an EV. It's not even close.
Usually it is 70 cents per KWh, at off peak hours it will be 35 cents.
*at off peak hours on selected electricy plans it’s 8.4c. Full battery for less than $5.50.
A lot of EV plans now give you free energy midday when export is high, so for some people it will be $0.00
85c/KWh for non-teslas.
Depends what car you have as to whether it's worthwhile. If it can make use of the super fast charging rate then it's great. My Atto3 averages around 70-80 though when I put it on a Tesla charger, whereas if I use Chargefox it caps at 50KW but only costs 40c per KWh. I used a Tesla charger once and was blown away by the cost, I'd rather wait a few extra minutes (I very rarely charge anyway, and I can watch youtube while I charge in the car while I do it now).
Correct… Atto 3 has max charge rate of 90-95 whereas model3 (the lowest tier) has 170-190
the model 3 can go higher, it hits 220 odd at a V3 supercharger.
Did a "full" charge at the new v4 supercharger at Albury while I had lunch at the cafe there yesterday. Took 44 mins to go to 100% from 15% and it cost $35. (15% to 80% took 23 minutes).
Made it from Canberra to Melbourne on a single stop (Model Y RWD)
This or eneloop deal 🤔
Eneloop for my Mercedes Double A class EV
Thanks Elon Musk
I thought you drove a Bugatti
We’re using referral points on a road trip for free supercharger credit, it’s unclear if you get 50% off that burn rate off peak or if it’s only for paid users.
Replied to the email, time to find out if the inbox is monitored. Will update if I hear back.
No reply from Tesla but it seemed to use the standard 1:1 referral burn rate unfortunately. $0.70 was showing as $0.35 but still used 200km of my 1500km.
I just got some referral points. How do you spend them on charging? (Never used paid charger)
In the Loot box section you see how many points you have, and you can shop around with them basically like QFF points. Redeem I think its 5,000 pts for 1,500kms of Supercharger mileage. Then pull up to a charger and connect.
How long until the cost of charging an electric car will be more expensive than petrol?
Well when you have solar at home. A very long time
I have solar at home, but work during the day, so solar doesn't help me much at night. So installing a control load 1 is my only 'cheapest' option.
Is there some reason you aren't on the OVO plan ?
https://pages.ovoenergy.com.au/the-ev-plan
Night charging is just 8c per KW.
@Nom: Agreed. I have solar and cl and am on ovo. Cl for me is more than double the ovo charge rate and with the free grid power I now get between 11-2 I’m paying maybe 4c kWh during that window to charge my car(because I lose solar feed in). That works out at about 63c / 100km.
Having said all that initial cost of an ev probably kills all my petrol savings for many.
well for that to happen you'd have to both believe that petrol prices are going down consistently, and that power prices are going up consistently. Given I'm now getting 8c/kwh power which I have never had before (disclaimer: that is only at certain times, but come on… that's 0-6am and I get free power from 11am-2pm so I am paying next to nothing for power 9 hours of every day) and petrol prices are currently $2.15/L for 91 in Melbourne I have no idea what grim situation you're in but that's not what's happening in my world.
Never
Noob question: after charging 1KWh, how many km can be travelled under normal circumstances/ city drive?
57kwh does 430kms
My average consumption in a model 3 RWD is 143Wh/km. So about 7km/kWh.
City driving with regenerative braking is the most energy efficient way to drive an EV, so you can get 7km from 1kWh urban but about 4km on the freeway.
Realistically though you're not going to do a 1kWh charge, if you plug in to a standard 10a power point while sleeping for 4 hours that's nearly 10kWh.
Put it another way, if I got home with 0 fuel and had to walk to the nearest servo and back with 5L, in the time that takes (minimum 30min easily) my EV could gain 8km charging in the garage.
Does this only benefit Tesla but not other EV brands?
No, the same discount applies to some sites open to Non-Tesla EVs https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/14754279/redir
Perfect if you like hanging around dodgy and dark areas for prolonged periods after 9pm. :)
Like Twitter?
You've never been out on a Friday night? Some people pay for the privilege
Renewable energy is 50% off after 9pm and this deal makes complete sense. As do battery operated cars.
Getting robbed at odd hours? No thanks!
High IQ move by Elon.
The ratio of EVs to chargers is quite bad now. Moving tightarses/OZBs to off peak times will help queues during peak travel times
Just opened tesla app just after midnight, the charging fee still says 85 cents per kw/h?
Tried a few other rural locations and the same.
Shared with friend who has a old nissan leaf ev and was not happy, says they dont work for him 🫣
Had a look in app, i don't think any superchargers apply in vic for non ev….albury has the 50%.
I would hope no superchargers apply anywhere for non EV…
The main learnings from this deal are:
- superchargers are expensive and the deal is good, but better to charge at home.
- EV owners are quite aggressive while trying to justify their precious cars even when there is no argument about the qualities os the EVs
Its as if you're saying some Tesla owners are socially inept nerds, who think they are morally superior due to a lifestyle choice and feel the need to talk down to others.
I currently have a model Y and a petrol prado with 180L fuel tank that uses 15L/100km.
Some things just make sense about saving money.
Also applies at sites open to Non-Tesla EVs.
eg Thrumster, Knockrow and Yass are 85c/kWh from 9am-9pm, 43c/kWh from 9pm-9am.