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ASUS RT-AX1800S Dual Band WiFi 6 (802.11ax) Router $89 Delivered @ Amazon AU

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Looks like a good price for this router. Asus web site says that it is still supported and is a recommended replacement for the EOL'd models.

  • WiFi 6(802.11ax) standard supporting MU-MIMO and OFDMA technology for better efficiency and throughput.
  • RT-AX1800S supports 1024-QAM for dramatically faster wireless connections. With a total networking speed of about 1800Mbps — 574 Mbps on the 2.4GHz band and 1201 Mbps on the 5GHz band.
  • Supporting not only MU-MIMO but also OFDMA technique to efficiently allocate channels, communicate with multiple devices simultaneously
  • Aiprotection powered by Trend Micro, blocks internet security threats for all your connected smart devices.
  • Compatible with ASUS AiMesh WiFi system for seamless whole-home coverage.
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  • abe465 on 22/12/2023 - 11:21

    Would any of you router experts recommend this for a 2-bed apartment?

    • Mel-waukee on 22/12/2023 - 11:24
      +4

      Should be plenty good

      • lastfanatic on 22/12/2023 - 11:25

        What about a 130 square metre office?

        • Mel-waukee on 22/12/2023 - 11:32

          You might have some issues around the boundaries but it should still be okay. Not this one but I've used a similar Asus router in a 300 sq.m. home where the router was at the centre of the dwelling. In terms of signal strength there was one bar of wifi signal strength at that place.

          In an office environment, however, you'd might face a different issue which is the number of users connecting to this router. If it has a slow processor despite a good signal, speeds might decrease. That has something to do with how quickly the router's processor(s) can service the needs of connected devices. I'd look up the specs in detail.

        • GenerallyClumsy on 22/12/2023 - 11:57
          +2

          You could always buy this. If it's not enough get a second and connect them. I'm a big fan of Asus routers. They have great software and solid range. If you're a bit paranoid, they're not made in mainland China so the CCP probably haven't installed back doors.

          • Namidairo on 22/12/2023 - 13:03
            +3

            @GenerallyClumsy:

            If you're a bit paranoid, they're not made in mainland China so the CCP probably haven't installed back doors.

            What are you talking about, they list a Shenzhen-based company as the manufacturer for this model in the test report.

            製造廠商 SHENZHEN GONGJIN ELECTRONICS CO.,LTD

            Not that it's an indicator of anything. (Apart from margins)

            I wouldn't worry about something so blatant as a firmware backdoor in an Asus device though. I usually see the half-arsed accidental backdoor from the budget brands instead.

          • Love a bargain on 22/12/2023 - 13:59
            +1

            @GenerallyClumsy: The one I got was made in China (despite Amazon's listing said otherwise).

            • GenerallyClumsy on 22/12/2023 - 15:20

              @Love a bargain: Interesting. I mean, at least ASUS isn't forced to hand over customer data to the CCP.

              • Protractor on 23/12/2023 - 09:36
                -1

                @GenerallyClumsy: Funny how ppl forget our internet is filtered by the govt anyway, and the Yanks have access rights (via storage) anyway.Add to that the constant hacks from other players that the govt never tells us about. There's less to worry about in a router than there is in our everyday lives in the p[orous half arsed systems 'protecting' us LOL

                • Captain Cheapskate on 26/12/2023 - 19:25
                  +1

                  @Protractor: truth. If your a high profile person with state secrets, then sure, be worried about CCP. But not sure why average Joe's of western world are worried about the CCP collecting data on them, when our own gov literally collects and stores every single mb of online traffic since the NBN's introduction that routes all traffic through the govs gateway, and can actually use it against you on your homeland from a legal standpoint.

                  • mun4 on 10/01/2024 - 14:20

                    @Captain Cheapskate: You're comparing a democratically elected government with the CCP? It's easy to glorify others and demean yourself. You probably should try living in China for a couple of years. For one, we don't have social credits.

                    • Captain Cheapskate on 10/01/2024 - 21:39

                      @mun4: if you actually think your vote counts towards anything, then the wool is well and truly pulled over your eyes. its not a democracy. its an elaborate show and dance masquerading as a democracy as evident of the end result of action because at the end of the day, those in power get their way over the people. always.

                      • mun4 on 10/01/2024 - 23:28

                        @Captain Cheapskate: You really haven't lived under a dictatorial system, have you? Let's not be naive here: no one's pretending democracy is perfect and all-wise, but it's certainly way better for the people than all other forms of government that have been tried - including Communism.

                        If you were in China and criticised the status-quo or a previous government like you just did, you'd be censored and have been punished through the social credit system right away. If you complained about the authority or the market online, you'd be arrested for 寻衅滋事 (picking a quarrel). Debate on social matters? Dream on. Even if you think a mayor here somehow managed to get their way and pocketed millions, then you've seen nothing yet. Think human trafficking, slave trade.

                        • Captain Cheapskate on 11/01/2024 - 00:26

                          @mun4: CCP are just following the same business model like all western civilisations did. England, Rome, France, America etc all built their establishment upon slavery. only difference now is these countries now out source it to other less developed countries.

                          And a social credit is in the works for us too. you seen a glimps of it under the guise of vaccine passport.

                          • mun4 on 11/01/2024 - 01:33

                            @Captain Cheapskate: You're kidding me. You're comparing the vaccine passport in use during the COVID period with China's universal social credit system? Do you know how the Chinese military welded people's houses shut with people inside for being infected? Literally cold welding.

                            I'm afraid your line of strawman argument is really quite pointless. We're in 2024 - not 1724. At least we agree that the CCP is at least 300 years behind in civilisation. By your logic, Xi eating babies would actually be acceptable considering Neanderthals would have done the same. FWIW not all communist countries are as systemically corrupt and oppressive, for instance Vietnam. It's Communism with Chinese characteristics that makes it so special. If our government was oppressive, you'd have been vanished for months - without explanation - for criticising the status-quo online.

                            Again, people who haven't experienced an oppressive, dictatorial system find it easy to overlook the merits of western democracy. Propaganda works wonders.

    • TheWineFamily on 22/12/2023 - 11:26
      +2

      By no means an expert (a total novice), but I got this for $99 from JB a couple of weeks ago for a 2-bed apartment and I'm totally happy with it.

    • SteveD on 22/12/2023 - 12:05
      +1

      @abe465:The ASUS RT-AX1800S is a mid-range Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router offers stable performance. It does deliver faster speeds, better coverage, and increased capacity compared to similar brands.

      In terms of range, it has the capacity to cover an average-sized 3-to-4-bedroom single story home and double storey house without any issues. However, you need to keep in mind the actual range will depend on various factors such as interference, obstructions, and the number of connected devices. Generally, you can expect reliable coverage within a typical home setup.

      I have been using this router for 3yrs now and I had no issues related to range or bandwidth. I have devices that are connected to its 2.4GHz band (legacy devices and wireless security cameras) and 5GHz band for rest of the devices. If you are using PlayStation or into gaming and don't have the luxury of ethernet, I would recommend keeping the router nearby or you might have to invest in Mesh network.

      • Twix on 22/12/2023 - 12:48
        +4

        The earliest RT-AX1800S firmware is from 2022. It has a slower dual-core (4 VPE) processor.

        It sounds like you have the RT-AX55 which is Wi-Fi 6 AX1800 from 2020. It has a faster 1.5GHz quad-core processor.

  • Putney on 22/12/2023 - 11:32
    +2

    What’s WAN speed like on these? I have 1000/50 NBN

    • SteveD on 22/12/2023 - 12:25

      Depends where you in respect to the router. I had 1000/50 for 6 months. On 2.4GHz band I was getting around 500/45 and on 5Ghz it was between 930/50 to 970/50. BTW my router is in the same room where my pc is. But if I was in the furthest room away from the router I was getting around 750Mbps to 850Mbps on 5Ghz band.

    • bauser99 on 23/12/2023 - 08:30
      +2

      Honestly if you pay for 1000/50 NBN you should go for a higher-end router to fully enjoy the speed…

      Bare minimum invest $130 for the RT-AX3000P but if budget allows I'd go for the RT-AX86U Pro at $399 (below from Amazon but possibly cheaper elsewhere)

      https://www.amazon.com.au/stores/page/A31DB44D-4198-47F2-BF1…

      If you need wider coverage step up to an AiMesh system, hard to beat this JB HiFi special at $349 https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/asus-zenwifi-xd6-dual-ban…

      • gg99 on 24/12/2023 - 14:31

        Hey mate quick question. Do I need a separate router for the AiMesh or the set you mentioned is all inclusive?

        • bauser99 on 24/12/2023 - 14:37

          Nope you don't need anything else - one of the XD6 units will automatically configure as the main router and the other one as the satellite.

          For a super-easy setup just use the iOS / Android app from ASUS https://www.asus.com/au/content/asus-router-app/

          • gg99 on 24/12/2023 - 14:39

            @bauser99: Awesome! One last question, do you think two sets are enough for a 3 bedroom (roughly 70sqm) on a single floor?

            • bauser99 on 24/12/2023 - 14:43

              @gg99: You can never be 100% sure with WiFi as it depends on construction material, interference from your neighbours and more, however for reference I had a pair of XD6 in a 2 storey 200sqm house and we had WiFi coverage everywhere. The good thing with AiMesh if you want to extend coverage down the track (eg bigger house) you can always add another unit.

      • spy on 25/12/2023 - 23:54

        https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/186158795946
        Is this different to RT-AX3000p?

  • mshanann on 22/12/2023 - 11:35

    Anyone know if you can bridge two of these together using gigabit ethernet and extend wifi that way using same SSIDs?

    • bio on 22/12/2023 - 11:39
      +1

      AiMesh supports ethernet backhaul, so theoretically it should be possible.

      https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1044184/

      How well this specific model supports it is a different question.

    • Virus-7 on 22/12/2023 - 13:27
      +1

      I think most routers can be put into AP mode, so one is your main router and the other just serves as Acess Point.

    • Doobies on 22/12/2023 - 13:57
      +1

      I bought the AX-54HP - looks like the same router, just different name for different market?

      Well i bought 2 because I was expecting a crap fttp upgrade location so bought 2 to mesh them so I could have ethernet on the other side of the house.

      Can confirm you can mesh 2 of these together using either ethernet backhaul OR wireless backhaul. One gets set as primary, other gets set as a node automatically.

      Just waiting for the FTTP upgrade, 2 months down, 1 to go …

    • Toastywf on 25/12/2023 - 12:27

      yes! I've even managed to get them working as wifi repeaters without using the built in AI mesh system, the built in system probably works better though

  • totalgadget on 22/12/2023 - 11:52

    Basic question. I have telstra smart modem gen 2.
    If i buy this should it be connected to telstra or connect directly to nbn fttc device?

    • Twix on 22/12/2023 - 12:10
      +2

      The —- is a wired ethernet cable.

      Go with this setup if you don't use Telstra's 4G failover and VoIP phone.
      nbn NCD—-ASUS RT-AX1800S router WAN port.

      Go with this setup if you use Telstra's 4G failover and VoIP phone. Configure the Asus as your Wi-Fi access point.
      nbn NCD—-Telstra smart modem gen 2 WAN port—-ASUS RT-AX1800S LAN port.

      • totalgadget on 22/12/2023 - 12:24
        +2

        Thanks.

        I dont use phone nor telstra network. was before. Basically i can skip telstra modem and replace with this one.

        Great.

        • Twix on 22/12/2023 - 12:26

          That's right.

          There is a good chance you can swap from FTTC to FTTP. Check here

      • scoothardly on 22/12/2023 - 14:45

        I have the same setup and would be using the second option above. I currently have Nova 5 mesh connected via the LAN port on the Telstra Dumb Modem Gen 2. If I connect the Asus as above, would I then connect the Nova mesh via a LAN port on the Asus, and would my coverage be likely to improve?

  • Luckypenguin on 22/12/2023 - 11:54

    Don't know what's wrong with mine, but it did nothing better than the standard Optus router for signal range despite all of the flappy antennas. I assume that it should have been an upgrade.

    • PurchaseAnxiety on 22/12/2023 - 12:23
      +2

      Tbh I think the antennas are mostly for show. You'll want to look at a mesh setup if you want better coverage with minimal latency (avoid those plugin range extenders, more trouble than they're worth from my experience). If you buy another one of these, I believe you can mesh them together.

      • macrocephalic on 22/12/2023 - 13:02
        +1

        Yep, if you pull apart one of those antennas (actually any external antenna on a wifi device) you'll find that they are plastic sticks with a tiny little antenna in them. This is because they use quarter wavelength antennas which are 31mm for 2.4ghz, and roughly half that for 5ghz. What's even worse is that they put this little antenna in the end of the stick closest to the router, so the stick is unnecessarily long, and moving it changes the angle of the antenna, but not it's position.

        TLDR: non-removable external antennas are a gimmick.

      • Luckypenguin on 22/12/2023 - 13:31

        Hmm, good point. I had thought at the time I bought the first to get two to cover each end of the house.

  • somethingguy on 22/12/2023 - 12:00

    Would this or the AX3000 (or another option) be sufficient for a new FTTP connection?

    • Twix on 22/12/2023 - 12:12

      Asus RT routers are compatible with FTTP. What speed tier did you signup for?

      • somethingguy on 22/12/2023 - 12:22

        The 1000/50 tier.

        • Twix on 22/12/2023 - 12:36

          I wouldn't get the RT-AX1800S for Gigabit. What kind of speeds do you want over Wi-Fi?

          • Sherlock04 on 22/12/2023 - 13:58
            +1

            @Twix: How about AX3000P, on sale for $130

            What does S and P as suffix of these models?

            • Twix on 22/12/2023 - 14:28

              @Sherlock04: Apparently S means simple and I don't know what P stands for. Asus don't normally do S and P router SKUs. Do you have Gigabit?

          • somethingguy on 22/12/2023 - 15:07
            +1

            @Twix: The max I can get over wifi. Hopefully the FTTP is quick — the appointment is booked, just need to get a router in preparation.

            Any recommendations?

            • Twix on 22/12/2023 - 15:16
              +1

              @somethingguy: You can get 500-1000Mbps from the Asus RT-AX58U, Asus RT-AX86U Pro or Asus GT-AX6000. This assumes your devices are Wi-Fi 6 and there are not many obstructions in the way.

              If you have money to burn Asus have routers with Wi-Fi 6E.

  • autolux on 22/12/2023 - 12:17

    isn't there something about merlin firmware being end of lifed for this model?

    • ashanrath on 03/01/2024 - 20:49

      The RT-AX1800S is a MediaTek router, Merlin only creates firmware for Broadcom routers.

  • jamespond007 on 22/12/2023 - 12:19

    I am using ac86u at the moment and rely on parental controls alot. Will this have the same. My router drops 2.4ghz frequently especially on hot days.

    Keep that or buy this ?

  • skein on 22/12/2023 - 12:23

    I have an Asus RT-AX56U s my home router wired into FTTP NBN. I've considered getting some Asus Zen Wifi units for whole house mesh coverage, could I theoretically buy 2 of these RT-AX1800S and use those as mesh nodes as a cheap solution?

  • Nedward on 22/12/2023 - 12:47

    How does this compare to the similarly posted ASUS RT-AX56U?

  • davidl820 on 22/12/2023 - 13:06
    +1

    Genuine question, is this an upgrade or downgrade from the AC56U?

    • littlesoldier on 22/12/2023 - 13:24

      AC56U is a 10years old product, will definitely a upgrade
      https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/asus/asus_rt-ac56u

      • Namidairo on 22/12/2023 - 13:39
        +1

        In terms of actual specs though, there's not a whole lot of difference apart from going from a 11ac radio to 11ax radio. (Although for 2.4ghz, that really means going from 11n to 11ax because there was no real 11ac for 2.4ghz outside of vendor extensions for 256-qam.)

        They drop the usb ports too. (Which rules out attached drives and/or fallover to a LTE dongle)

        Don't mix up the power supplies unless you want the magic smoke to come out.

        This one will probably have software support for longer though, and the platform is far more foss friendly being Mediatek and all. (Although I think the OpenWrt install for this one is u-boot tftp with serial, which isn't exactly user-friendly.)

        • davidl820 on 22/12/2023 - 14:55

          Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks 👍

  • vv285 on 22/12/2023 - 13:34

    What about the Tenda AX3000 RX9 https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B0CLQP3QSH/ref=ox_sc_ac…?
    Is cheaper and on 50% discount too.

    • Tuttorix on 22/12/2023 - 22:07

      Says 35% for me.

    • bauser99 on 23/12/2023 - 08:37
      +2

      I'd go for Asus vs Tenda any day of the week… you'll get better support in the long run (regular firmware upgrades) and built-in protection at no extra cost

  • whitepuma on 22/12/2023 - 13:44

    Just keep in mind that this year various Asus routers have been showing some significant vulnerabilities.
    Not sure if this is one of the models that's with the issue, but Asus has been taking strong action in providing firmware updates to patch these vulnerabilities.

    TLDR: Show caution, Update firmware on router as soon as you get it

  • User0001 on 22/12/2023 - 13:56
    +1

    This was the same price I bought on black friday/cyber monday. I use it exclusively for wireless steam link VR and it works flawlessly over wifi 6. Imperceptible latency even on fast paced games like beat saber. Relatively easy to setup. Also doubles as a wifi repeater which somehow manages to give me full speed of the original wifi even though it's connected to an extender.

    • tpopi on 22/12/2023 - 14:08

      Is this with a Quest 2 headset by any chance?

  • fullerms on 22/12/2023 - 14:07

    Does this model support VLANs? Thinking of getting exclusively for IoT devices on 2.4Ghz

    • Twix on 22/12/2023 - 14:16

      Not for IoT.

      2). VLAN supported models:
      RT-AX86U Pro, RT-AX88U Pro
      GT-AX11000 Pro, GT-AXE16000, GT-AX6000
      ZenWiFi_Pro_ET12, ZenWiFi_Pro_XT12
      ExpertWiFi Series

      https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1049415/

  • cornflakes on 22/12/2023 - 14:40

    Comparison to AX53U that's around the same price? Seem to have very similar specs, except the AX53U has one less RJ45 port but gains a USB port.

  • Diji on 22/12/2023 - 22:33
    +1

    Waiting for Wifi 10

  • Assyrian on 23/12/2023 - 02:31

    My optus router keeps dropping the wifi signal sometimes, would this be compatible with Optus NBN?

    • viewfinder on 23/12/2023 - 09:36

      What sort of NBN connection do you have? e.g. FTTC, FTTN, HFC?

      Regarding the Optus router wifi signal dropping out, it would be ideal to check if it is actually the Optus Router issue or your NBN connection:
      1. have you noticed any dropouts for devices that are connected directly via the ethernet cable?
      2. have you noticed the dropouts are random or at specific locations in the home, or specific devices, or specific times of the day?
      3. have you tried to update the Optus Router firmware?
      4. have you checked your wifi signal strength around the home? e.g. via apps like Network Analyzer (available on iOS and Android).
      5. have you checked if your Optus Router wifi channels are clashing with your neighbours? e.g. via apps like Wifi Analyzer

      • Assyrian on 23/12/2023 - 17:34

        pretty much the 5GHz network channel is the one that drops and everything else works, I know this because if my TVs are all connected to it and I have to restart the router for it to connect again.
        my NBN connection would HFC based on the pages you shared.

        • viewfinder on 23/12/2023 - 18:26

          Is it always the same devices that seems to be dropping from the 5GHz?

          Are your 2.4GHz and 5GHz on separate SSID? i.e. HomeWifi2.4 and HomeWifi5. OR are they one SSID and you let the device decide on 2.4GHz vs 5GHz? i.e. HomeWifi. The reason I ask is because some devices may be a bit sensitive and does not play well with SSID that have combined 2.4Ghz and 5GHz - I've seen this happen for wireless printers and security cameras etc.

          If your NBN is the HFC style, you should be able to incorporate this Asus Router into your network and may consider the following options:
          Option 1. using an ethernet cable from the Optus Router into the WAN of this Asus Router for the Wifi (may cause double-NAT, or may need to enable bridge-mode).
          Option 2. removing the Optus Router from the network and just have the NBN HFC black box connect to the WAN of this Asus Router.

          A couple of scenarios to consider Option 1 of keeping the Optus Router in the picture is because:
          1. the Optus Router is feeding the landline telephone service. and/or
          2. the Optus Router has a 4G failover backup service built that you wish to utilise if NBN fails.

          If these scenarios are not relevant, it may be easier to simply go with Option 2.

          At the end of the day, if you have the time, it would still be interesting to check the wifi dropout is an isolated issue that can be resolved by changing some settings on the Optus Router (e.g. SSID, Wifi channel clash, and etc).

          • Assyrian on 23/12/2023 - 22:00

            @viewfinder: thanks for taking the time and replying, you're a legend!!
            So between all the Asus deals on amazon, which router do you recommend for the long run?
            Something close to the price of this deal here or up to $200 is fine too

            • viewfinder on 23/12/2023 - 23:07

              @Assyrian: The Asus router in this deal is quite decent value for a 2-3 bedroom home environment with a few people, using a couple dozen devices, that are doing standard streaming, WFH/Zoom/Teams, social media scrolling etc on a standard NBN speeds less than 250Mbps/25Mbps.

              Since this Asus router is AiMesh compatible, if you have a slightly larger environment and feel ONE might not be enough to cover, you can technically buy TWO of these and use them as AiMesh.

              The reason for all the questions and commentary is the hope that you can tweak the Optus Router to do what you need it to do and not even need to spend a cent on this new stuff. However, if tweaking doesn't work or you can't be bothered to tweak it, this Asus Router is quite good bang-for-buck.

              • Assyrian on 24/12/2023 - 12:57

                @viewfinder: alright one last question before pulling the trigger and I'll stop bothering you xD
                AX1800s or ASUS RT-AX3000P?

                • viewfinder on 24/12/2023 - 14:20

                  @Assyrian: All good, no worries.

                  For a 2-3 bedroom home environment with a few people, using a couple dozen devices, that are doing standard streaming, WFH/Zoom/Teams, social media scrolling etc on a standard NBN speeds less than 250Mbps/25Mbps… I would opt for the budget-friendly RT-AX1800S. Please note, I'm not saying the RT-AX3000P is a bad product/deal, but the spec-sheet for RT-AX1800S should suffice for a less demanding environment.

                  If it was a bigger environment, more devices, higher NBN speeds, and was going to spend a little more money etc… I would probably consider a multi-node mesh network (e.g. with wired backhaul etc), or a prosumer network arrangement (e.g. Unifi).

                  PS - If you find that regular powering OFF/ON your Optus Router seems to resolve your Wifi drop-out issue, the even cheaper option would be to try use one of these Analogue Timer Switches (https://www.bunnings.com.au/hpm-24hr-analog-timer-with-offse…) that you can set so that the Optus Router power plug switches OFF then back ON every day (e.g. 3am when you're sleeping). For context, I've got one of these that we used to use for our Christmas tree lights.

  • LurvinOZB on 23/12/2023 - 06:30

    compatible mixing this dual band with two tri band using aimesh? The two tri band is running wired backhaul and this is gonna be used for wifi to a dead corner.

  • jkim on 24/12/2023 - 01:00

    What's the difference between this and the rt-ax54hp (the model JB Hifi sell)?
    I can't see any difference on the Asus site.
    https://www.asus.com/product-compare?ProductID=20363,16864&L…

  • SirFaffer on 24/12/2023 - 01:48

    Would this be better than a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000? Especially for using a Meta Quest 3 over wireless.

    Cheers :)

  • virhlpool on 24/12/2023 - 10:30

    Do these work seamlessly with TP Link Deco X20 units? Just conscious that both are different brands.

    • viewfinder on 24/12/2023 - 14:30

      No, the Asus AiMesh is only between compatible Asus routers. These Asus routers do not seamlessly "mesh" with the TP-Link Deco device.

      Technically speaking, there are some Asus routers that can act as "repeaters" that can extend your wireless coverage. However, this is not ideal because it may cause connectivity issues when your devices are trying to switch between the TP-Link and Asus (i.e. not a neat handover), and if you manage your devices via the TP-Link Deco app, devices connected to the Asus router (in repeater mode) will not be visible in the TP-Link Deco app (i.e. lack of visibility), also repeater mode may impair the wifi speeds.

      If you are already using TP-Link Deco X20, it would be ideal and easiest to find additional Deco units to extend your wifi coverage.

      What particular reason has prompted you to consider adding another Wifi router/device to your current TP-Link Deco X20? The reason I ask this is because it will better help identify options for consideration.

      • virhlpool on 24/12/2023 - 14:58

        A couple of reasons. Currently I don't have any modem - just using two Deco units, one of them directly plugged into NBN box. In some areas, wifi seems to be slightly weaker. So I could add another deco or add a modem and use both Decos to extend better.

        Second issue is - one of my older laptops isn't picking up mesh wifi SSID despite it having the latest driver etc. I believe if I add a modem, it may solve both above issues. However, since I have Deco X20 units already, adding another TP-Link device (modem) will make more sense rather than Asus, I guess. What would you recommend and which model?

        • viewfinder on 24/12/2023 - 15:30
          +1

          What sort of NBN connection do you have? e.g. FTTC, FTTN, HFC?

          The reason I ask is because I believe the "NBN box" is your "modem". For example, if you have a FTTC connection, that white box is the "modem". If you have a HFC connection, the black box is the "modem".

          Regarding your Wifi signal weaknesses, you should consider using apps like Network Analyzer to check weak spots and Wifi Analyzer to check if there are any channels clashing. If you do need to extend coverage, yes, it would be sensible to look for another deco unit (e.g. get an extra Deco X20) . Alternatively, if you want a bit more reach AND have the budget, you can consider upgrading to something like the X55 or X60 as the primary nodes and use the Deco X20 as the secondary nodes. Or even switch it up to a new 3-pack tri-band Deco, e.g. XE68 or XE75 Pro.

          In summary:
          * Budget-friendly option - additional X20 unit (PS - this X20-4G is an interesting option too, in case you want to buy a mobile data sim for 4G failover. If you get this X20-4G, it will be the primary node connected to your NBN box, and your 2x X20 units will be the satellite/secondary devices).
          * Moderate option - X55 3pk
          * Growth option - XE68 3pk
          * Baller option - XE75 Pro 3pk

          PS - For context, tri-band devices like the XE68 XE75(Pro) essentially have an extra wifi band that provides a stronger and uninterrupted connection between the mesh points.

          Regarding your issue with the older laptop not connecting, you may want to check the TP-Link Deco settings for things like:
          1. Wifi security encryption - This is because, older laptops/devices may not be compatible with the newer WPA3 encryption - i.e. consider downgrading it to WPA2.
          2. Fast roaming - This is because, older laptops/devices may have hiccups with the fast roaming 802.11r - i.e. consider disabiling this.
          3. Combined SSID feature - This is because older laptops/devices may have hiccups with picking up SSIDs that have both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz on the same name - i.e. consider splitting the networks with different names.

          • virhlpool on 24/12/2023 - 16:07

            @viewfinder: I have HFC, hence black box is my modem.

            • viewfinder on 24/12/2023 - 16:40

              @virhlpool: Glad to hear you were able to identify your NBN connection type.

              Hopefully, changing the location of the second X20 can solve the signal strength issue and tweaking the Deco app settings can resolve the old laptop connectivity issue.

          • virhlpool on 24/12/2023 - 20:16

            @viewfinder: Thanks heaps! A couple of questions:

            1) Is X55 significantly better than X20 in terms of coverage capability? I am contemplating between X20 and X55.

            2) If I go with X55, can it be the single unit that connects to NBN box (and I can use X20 two units that I have as its extenders)? OR should all 3 units be X55 to make any impact?

            3) I couldn't remember seeing an option in Deco app to split two different SSIDs for 2.4GHz and 5GHz. There are three options: Mixed, 2.4GHz or 5GHz. Not sure if we can have both but with different SSID names. Can you please correct me?

            • viewfinder on 25/12/2023 - 00:12

              @virhlpool: You're welcome :)

              In response to your questions:

              1. No, the X55 is not significantly better than X20. With referene to this , the key difference with the X55 is the 5GHz throughput up to 2402Mbps, as compared to the X20 5GHz throughput up to 1201Mbps.

              2. Yes, 1x X55 can be the primary node that connects to the NBN box and the 2x X20 can be the secondary/extender nodes.
                However, to take advantage of the benefits of the X55, e.g. higher 5GHz throughput and etc, it is best to have a 3pk of X55.
                Hence, if you're only wanting to add ONE extra unit to your environment and your environment is technically fine with the current X20 throughput, but just wanting a little extra reach, then would be sufficient and likely cheaper to just get 1x X20 rather than 1x X55.
                Alternatively, if you're wanting to sort of add a whole new 3pk the X55 would be a good option especially with some of the recent/xmas deals. This will mean that you have 5x Deco devices in your environment, which now may be a bit excessive. So, you may want to consider selling or giving away the 2x X20.
                If the budget allows, and you want to swap out your 2x X20 with a new 3pk for a more significant upgrade, the XE68 would be a good candicate because because of the tri-band (extra 5GHz band dedicated as the wireless backhaul for better connection between the XE68 nodes) and 3x3 MU-MIMO connectivity for higher multi-device sessions. As much as people may want XE75(Pro) or BE85, we may not have that many WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 devices to actually take advantage of those features, which is why XE68 is just below these two options is somewhat of a reasonable upgrade option.

              3. In your Deco app, if it does not allow you to split your SSID between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, you may want to consider using the IoT Network. Recently, they rolled out a firmware update for X20 that allows user to configure a "IoT Network". For context, the "IoT Network" is meant to create a new network for people to connect their internet-of-things devices like their IP cameras, doorbells, smart lights, smart home etc. However, you may be able to repurpose this "IoT Network" and configure it for your old laptop's connectivity.

              PS - out of curiosity, does your environment have ethernet ports/cables coming through the walls? The reason I ask is because the X20 (as well as a few other Deco devices) has a feature called "ethernet backhaul" which allows you to connect your primary X20 to your secondary X20 via ethernet cable , which forms a stronger mesh network because it does not need to consume as much of the wireless bandwidth for the wireless relay/extension.

              • virhlpool on 25/12/2023 - 01:03

                @viewfinder: Thanks. I am in process of adding Cat6 extension to another room, so I will have ability to connect one of the Deco units to ethernet cable through wall. Currently they are connected through wifi only.

              • virhlpool on 03/01/2024 - 06:09

                @viewfinder: Hi mate… Would 2 units of XE68 be more effective than 3 units of X20? I am wondering if I would really need 3 units of XE68 (pretty expensive) if I go that route. Thanks.

                • viewfinder on 03/01/2024 - 16:32

                  @virhlpool: Hey mate, if your primary issue was the lack of coverage, i would opt for 3x X20 rather than 2x X68.

                  The X68 is more if u plan to do a full refresh and upgrade, with the need for extra throughput between nodes (eg primary to secondary).

                  Not only is the 3x X68 is quite a pricey option, there's also the added hassle of needing to find a new home for the old X20s (eg selling it on fb mktpl).

                  • virhlpool on 03/01/2024 - 16:56

                    @viewfinder: X20s isn't an issue. I can possibly return them as I am not using them at present (still experimenting while on old modem). I wasn't just sure if 3X20 or 2XE68 is a better option. Issue was two-fold: 1) Lack of stable coverage in some parts even after using 2*X20. 2) Old laptop not picking SSID even after making various modifications in Deco as well as laptop driver itself.

                    • viewfinder on 03/01/2024 - 17:22

                      @virhlpool: Glad to hear you have the option to return the 2x X20.

                      The key differentiator of the X68 is the tri-band, but if you're going to get Ethernet around the home, Ethernet backhaul between the nodes should be even more stable than the dedicated wireless 5ghz on the 2x X68. So, instead, you may want to return the 2x X20 and then consider getting the 3pk of X20 or 3pk of X55 (extra throughput).

                      Regarding the issue with the laptop not picking up the SSID, does it connect to other Wi-Fi? Eg hotspot from your phone? Or Wi-Fi with no password?

                      • virhlpool on 03/01/2024 - 17:38

                        @viewfinder: Laptop connects to the other wifi. Just not to the SSID created by Deco X20.

                        In which case would you recommend X68s? Price wise there's $100 difference between X20 and X68 (for 2 units pack) so it's not a bad idea to use superior ones. I am happy to have X68 if they are significantly better performers.

  • pixxelpusher on 24/12/2023 - 22:59

    Do these work with a FTTN NBN connection? i.e Can I just plug the phone line into it and it will connect to the NBN?

    I'm looking to replace my mega old Huawei router that I got from my provider.

    • bio on 24/12/2023 - 23:11

      This is not a modem, so no, you can't just plug the phone line in. You need a VDSL2 modem.

      If your Huawei modem supports bridge mode you can probably use both, though. This way Huawei will do the VDSL <-> WAN routing, and Asus will do the rest (WiFi, parental controls etc).

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