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Silicon Power XPOWER XS70 with Aluminum Heatsink PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD 4TB $402.85 Delivered @ Amazon JP via AU

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Silicon Power XPOWER XS70 with Aluminum Heatsink PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD 4TB $402.85 Delivered @ Amazon JP via AUAffiliate
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(PS5 compatible)

PCIe Gen 4x4 interface with read speeds up to 7,200MB/s and write speeds up to 6,800MB/s
Compatible with PlayStation 5 for additional storage expansion
Unique heatsink design provides maximum heat dissipation and thermal management
NVMe 1.4 support allows for higher performance, lower latency, and lower power consumption

Other stores sell for $639 (e.g. UMART and MSY)

Note it was cheaper a few days ago at $388.76 on 2 June

If Amazon Japan does not appear as a seller, try refreshing the web page or use the Amazon Mobile App.

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  • YZYgold on 07/06/2023 - 22:00

    wow, damn cheaper than amazon jp deal, alr got 1!

    • ameel on 07/06/2023 - 22:02

      No idea what happened. It's showing as $682.99 now?

      • ameel on 07/06/2023 - 22:07
        +1

        And now it's back down to $402.85

      • alvian on 07/06/2023 - 22:08

        That's from the Amazon Germany store.

  • netsurfer on 07/06/2023 - 22:24
    +2

    It probably would have been better to un-expire and update the previous deal, rather than a new deal since it is missing the info:

    Silicon Power XPOWER XS70 4TB PCIe Gen 4 M.2 SSD $388.76 Delivered @ Amazon JP via AU

    Note: go to that deal to get more information. Essentially, it looks like Amazon JP only puts a small number of these on Amazon AU marketplace. Probably intentional so you get only 3 left message in order to entice you (FOMO factor). When there is no stock (due to Amazon JP not adding more in time), a deal from a different seller may appear (i.e. Amazon Germany, but cost more).

  • Jvin on 07/06/2023 - 22:44

    Thanks op. Got 2

  • aec on 07/06/2023 - 23:13

    How to use it in a ps5?

    • bitambitious on 07/06/2023 - 23:28
      +3

      Expansion slot on the ps5. You can youtube how to. Very quick and easy

  • Therealjohndoe on 07/06/2023 - 23:27

    Sex on a stick.

    • netsurfer on 08/06/2023 - 00:02
      +1

      3 inches, really?

      • Therealjohndoe on 08/06/2023 - 00:13
        +3

        To quote Austin Powers, It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.

  • Innamura on 08/06/2023 - 06:36
    +1

    How does this compare to Samsung, Kingston and the other bigger brand names?

    • netsurfer on 08/06/2023 - 11:49
      +2

      They are roughly in the same tier performance wise (basically PCIe gen 4 x4 flagship tier). Reliability, there is insufficient data on this and those SSDs. Warranty, this one is via seller.

      While it is Phison E18 based, it is configured more like Seagate Firecuda 530 than Kingston KC3000. There are 2 ways to configured E18, one is to don't go too aggressive on SLC cache initially (which is how this SSD is configured) vs having aggressive SLC usage initially (KC3000). Each approach has its pros and cons. You generally don't need to worry about it unless you have multiple SSDs AND you do copy a lot of data between the SSDs often AND you really care about the time taken.

      • Innamura on 08/06/2023 - 13:14

        Thank you very much, I still need to get my head around TLC, QLC and now SLC plus poison E18 configuration.. learning something new

        • netsurfer on 08/06/2023 - 16:08
          +2

          Basically, most of the SSDs are TLC or QLC based. However, those cannot achieve / saturate PCIe gen 4 x4 so all SSD makers come up with a cheat workaround, when there is enough unused cells on the SSD, write in SLC mode. If the customers happened to not write so much data in one hit, the customer won't feel the slower TLC/QLC write.

          Samsung and WD use their own controllers. For majority of SSDs, to make flagship SSDs, they have 2 choices. One of the more popular choice is Phison E18. It's quite good, in fact, WD and Samsung decided to respond by releasing SN850X and 990 Pro. In general use, you probably cannot tell the difference.

          • Innamura on 09/06/2023 - 08:56

            @netsurfer: Amazing! thanks netsurfer, would you happen to be an engineer?

  • Look Up on 16/06/2023 - 00:09

    Now $391.76

  • yyhazy on 16/06/2023 - 23:33
    +2

    I bought the 2tb version from a previous deal and removed the heatsink https://imgur.com/a/PHZ7nYY/
    It appears to have different components (eg Innogrit IG5236 controller) than what most review sites suggested.
    I don't know what differences that makes.

    • netsurfer on 18/06/2023 - 13:38
      +1

      Thanks for the photo. So it looks like Silicon Power has swapped the components to: InnoGrit IG5236 + YMTC 128L XTacking 2.0 NAND.

      The InnoGrit controller is fine, XTracking 2.0 NAND is the bit I am concerned.

    • netsurfer on 18/06/2023 - 18:10
      +1

      From what I can gathered, if Innogrit IG5236 is used, then YMTC 128L XTracking 2.0 NAND appears to perform better than Micron 176L in most benchmarks. However, Phison E18 + Micron 176L combination still performs better in majority of tests. Basically, there is a reason why the 2TB is cheaper. The 4TB version, based on an OZBer's feedback / check appears to be Phison E18 still.

    • netsurfer on 18/06/2023 - 22:15
      +1

      With AUD getting stronger, the 2TB version just had yet another price drop. Even the 4TB version has dropped to all time low as well - $388.06 (a few cents below previous best… though I suspect the other deal for the 4TB version could soon be updated to reflect the new price).

      The real question is whether it is a good idea to buy a 4TB now or wait for further price drop.

      I have added a comment to the 2TB deal to inform people about the change of controller and NAND on the 2TB version.

    • yyhazy on 18/06/2023 - 22:30
      +1

      Reposting my comment in the other deal: I did some testings with the XS70 2TB and found the RND4K Q32 read/write speed seems to be quite a bit slower than what review websites reported. https://imgur.com/a/da0eIAv. Not sure if it's just my unit.

      I just want an affordable 2tb drive as OS drive and play video games. Why is life so complicated ;(

      • netsurfer on 18/06/2023 - 23:56
        +1

        Your results are expected and still within PCIe gen 4 x4 flagship tier results. It's just getting E18 version is a key reason people go for this and the performance is just not quite at that level. If it is just Random 4K Q32T1 you are concerned about, honestly, that one is not important for majority of people (unless you intend to use this SSD on a PC running as a dedicated server for a company). In Crystal DiskMark, under Profile, if you switch to real world performance, you will see that test being removed. However, that test is in peak performance test profile. Honestly, that test is there to make NVMe SSDs look good.

        Intel Optane wins in 4K QD1 IOPs over a flagship gen4 SSD by 4X to 5X, but Random 4K Q32T1, flagship PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs regain lead.

        It's still a flagship tier 2TB PCIe gen 4 x4 SSD. Your CDM results beat SN850 and 980 Pro.

        • yyhazy on 19/06/2023 - 00:05

          Thank you kindly for the information. In that case I might just keep it and be happy instead of figuring out a way to send it back to Japan…
          (Amazon gave me two option to return it: taking it to a DHL facility which are all very out of the way, or sending it back to Japan myself and getting up to $32 shipping costs reimbursed.)

          • netsurfer on 19/06/2023 - 01:05
            +1

            @yyhazy: Yeah, send to a DHL return point is annoying (even if you live in NSW or VIC). It is caused by Covid as that stopped DHL and Fedex sending staff / trucks to collect from general collection points. Post Covid, neither of them resumed that service. For their general paid customers, pickup is offered (but honestly it is included in the new price).

            Sending it yourself to Japan costs a fair amount due to the need to use a trackable service. You also keep the receipt (for reimbursement) and keeping it under $32 may not be that easy. You also need to fill in a declaration form normally.

            Make sure you are happy to keep it though. Paperwork is simple for DHL return, but limited number of locations means time needed driving there and back.

          • netsurfer on 19/06/2023 - 11:20
            +2

            @yyhazy: Just an FYI, I contacted DHL this morning to get clarification on the drop off locations.

            While it is correct that for dropping off of the return item physically, it has to be a DHL service point, it is possible to arrange a pickup instead. Suggest you contact DHL directly if you are considering returning it. The return process will still take time though. From memory, Amazon won't refund until the item is received.

          • netsurfer on 19/06/2023 - 17:01

            @yyhazy: Another FYI… Another result on the same SSD.

            Crystal DiskMark Results - XS70 2TB InnoGrit + YMTC combo

            NAND chips: 32 x YMTC 3dv3-128L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die 4Plane/die
            3dv3-128L = XTracking 2.0 128L

            Read (MB/s) Write (MB/s) Mix (MB/s)
            SEQ1MQ8T1 7463 6711 7218
            SEQ1MQ1T1 4015 5952 3642
            RND4KQ32T1 628 513 610
            RND4KQ1T1 77 234 94

            Tested on an AMD Ryzen 5600 system with a clean fresh Windows 11 installed on the C drive. I no longer have the SSD with me.

          • netsurfer on 19/06/2023 - 20:27

            @yyhazy: Sorry, another FYI. It looks like Amazon AU did not provide a full refund. I was misled by the CSR I chatted to yesterday.

            • yyhazy on 19/06/2023 - 20:58

              @netsurfer: You returned an XS70 to Amazon au and they did not give you a full refund? What did you state as the reason for return?

              • netsurfer on 20/06/2023 - 01:11

                @yyhazy: A CSR did it for me yesterday, I was told I would get full refund at the time. It doesn't show me the reason anymore (since the system has initiated the refund, it is now showing refunded). Chatted to two CSRs who lack the ability to refund the return shipping charge ($16) so they sent an e-mail to another team. The CSR assigned to look at it had no idea of the actual situation and replied with refund will only happen after Amazon JP received it (but that's incorrect because Amazon AU site already showing refunded). So this CSR is even more clueless than the other 2. The other 2 at least knew the situation and they knew refund had took place.

                I want to go through the process to see what it is like.

              • netsurfer on 20/06/2023 - 12:06

                @yyhazy: So basically I was informed the wrong information by the first Amazon CSR (that CSR told me I won't be charged the return shipping cost). The way Amazon determines it is based on whether Amazon itself is at fault. So the reason "Silicon Power" did component swaps means Silicon Power is at fault. Thus, Amazon, as an intermediate, is not responsible.

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